I don't mind year-in-review stuff...but it really could be saved for Dec 31. I can't get into year in review for two weeks. (I'm looking at you, Today show.)
I don't understand why I can't say Merry Christmas to people without some folks being offended. If I celebrated another holiday, and someone said Merry Christmas, I would say, for example "Happy Hanukkah!"
I know we need to be PC and all, but it just irks me.
Flame away... I know a lot of people don't feel this way.
People can wish me a Happy Flying Spaghetti Monster Spawning Day, for all I care. Along the same lines, don't get offended or correct me if I say "Happy Holidays".
I do not equate Santa and Elf on the Shelf with lying to your child. I consider it doing something to perpetuate the magic and innocence of childhood, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I do not equate Santa and Elf on the Shelf with lying to your child. I consider it doing something to perpetuate the magic and innocence of childhood, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I think everyone should just do the holidays their way and let everyone else do theirs. I'm so tired of the million blog post links on Facebook that are all "We don't do Santa because LIES!" or "If you don't do Santa, you're ruining your kids because MAGIC!" (I know this isn't what you're saying, shell...). Your way is not the best way, so just do your thing and let me do mine.
@elf828 I actually ugly cried when I saw the preview for the new Annie. And not in a good way... I said "but she doesn't have red hair" and DS1 was like whatever mom with a major eye roll.
I don't understand why I can't say Merry Christmas to people without some folks being offended. If I celebrated another holiday, and someone said Merry Christmas, I would say, for example "Happy Hanukkah!"
I know we need to be PC and all, but it just irks me.
Flame away... I know a lot of people don't feel this way.
ETA: If someone greeted me with another holiday, I would not be upset. I would probably smile at them and wish them a Merry Christmas. Just MO!
I celebrate Hanukkah and I don't mind when people say "Merry Christmas" to me. But I wouldn't say "Happy Hanukkah" back to them because that's what I celebrate. I would say "Merry Christmas" back.
I do have a friend who is also Jewish who does get offended by "Merry Christmas". I guess just because it's making the assumption that everyone celebrates Christmas. But for me, I think that people who say it are just being polite or friendly, so it doesn't bother me.
I don't understand why I can't say Merry Christmas to people without some folks being offended. If I celebrated another holiday, and someone said Merry Christmas, I would say, for example "Happy Hanukkah!"
I know we need to be PC and all, but it just irks me.
Flame away... I know a lot of people don't feel this way.
ETA: If someone greeted me with another holiday, I would not be upset. I would probably smile at them and wish them a Merry Christmas. Just MO!
I celebrate Hanukkah and I don't mind when people say "Merry Christmas" to me. But I wouldn't say "Happy Hanukkah" back to them because that's what I celebrate. I would say "Merry Christmas" back.
I do have a friend who is also Jewish who does get offended by "Merry Christmas". I guess just because it's making the assumption that everyone celebrates Christmas. But for me, I think that people who say it are just being polite or friendly, so it doesn't bother me.
I feel like it's really weird to say "Happy Different Holiday" back. What's wrong with "Thanks"?
FWIW I can understand how it would be frustrating to constantly hear Merry Christmas as a non-celebrator. It's a pervasive reminder that you're different/other than the norm. Which is why I prefer to wish people Happy Holidays to avoid the assumption that they are celebrating anything in particular and it encompasses all the holidays going on, Hanukkah, Christmas, New Years, Kwanzaa, Winter Solstice, etc. If I know, for example, my friend is Jewish I'll wish her a Happy Hanukkah because I know she's celebrating.
Because it's easy for me, a person who celebrates Christmas, to say "well they're just being friendly" because while that's likely the case it's still a reminder that you're different and it sucks to hear constantly and is not the first/last time you'll encounter something that reminds you that you're "outside" the cultural mainstream.
I struggle with the whole holiday thing, TBH. I'm a lapsed Catholic who struggles with the pervasively "Christian nation" themes in our country. I feel for those people, kids especially, who don't participate and can't just go about their merry (haha) way without being barraged by reminders that they aren't part of this whole deal. But I also don't think people should stop saying Merry Christmas/whatever if they so chose.
I have a santa related opinion (no idea if it's unpopular) but we do santa EXCEPT I never say it's for "good kids" just that santa brings presents. It feels contrary to my parenting philosophy to bribe my kid into good behavior via santa. I like the idea of him to enjoying a magical altruistic figure who brings presents simply because. I feel it better emulates the history of St Nicolas and the spirit of generosity that is central to our Christmas celebrations. We give because it's nice to do and it's a way to show people we care about them, not because they were "good".
Unsurprisingly, we don't do that stupid elf. Partially because it creeps me out. And I'm lazy.
I couldn't care less whether other people do the santa thing, and laugh/roll my eyes at their "zomgs santa is all LIES!!!" ridiculousness. Hope they don't fall off that high horse.
I'm fine with people not doing Santa, but I'm probably going to be pissed if your kid ruins the fun for my kid.
Exactly! Don't ruin my child's magical dreams.
I'm totally rolling my eyes at this.
Sooner or later, your kid will learn Santa isn't real. It's not a life ruining experience people. And if it is, you've got waaaay bigger problems than the Buddhist neighbor's kid saying there's no santa.
But it's not as though these kids are thinking "mwuahaha I'm going to ruin this 5yr old life!!!" They, for whatever reason, don't believe and are often just being truthful about their understanding of the world.
Why isn't the onus on you/your kid to not have your kid ruin the Jewish kid's holiday by not talking about Santa? How do you think little kids whose parents don't participate because it's not part of their cultural celebration feel when they are told good boys/girls get presents from Santa and they've never once received a gift from Santa?
Well of course my kid will find out at some point that Santa isn't real, I just mean, don't purposefully go and tell her.
I feel like this is an over simplification though. We're not doing Santa- I realize we're the minority, that's fine. I have no problem with other people doing it at all, but we're not. I mean, I absolutely won't tell m\y kid to go around telling others Santa is a lie (and that's obviously not how we're teaching it to him anyway). But... kids are kids? I don't really think there's a way to guarantee this doesn't happen, but I also don't want to be pressured into doing Santa with him when we don't want to, because that's not fair at all. So I mean... there's only so much you can do.
I think it's the difference between teaching your kids "we don't believe in Santa, but others do " and "your friends' parents are liars and there is no Santa". The former, acceptable. The latter, you're kind of an asshole, and that will probably make your kids act like assholes about it too.
I don't understand why I can't say Merry Christmas to people without some folks being offended. If I celebrated another holiday, and someone said Merry Christmas, I would say, for example "Happy Hanukkah!"
I know we need to be PC and all, but it just irks me.
Flame away... I know a lot of people don't feel this way.
ETA: If someone greeted me with another holiday, I would not be upset. I would probably smile at them and wish them a Merry Christmas. Just MO!
@boogerbearoriginal already responded pretty eloquently, but even as a Catholic who celebrates Christmas, I don't get the big deal about wishing someone a happy holiday vs. a specific one. I don't get my knickers in a twist over it, but it's just as easy to say "happy holidays" and be inclusive than it is to say "merry christmas." It's not being "PC," it's saying a nice thing that could apply to anyone vs. a nice thing that might not.
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You guys have given Santa a LOT more thought than I have.
Agreed. We do Santa, and if others don't, that's fine. And if DS asks about it someday, or wonders because someone said something to him, we'll address it then.
That said, we all "believe" in Santa in our house - DH and I give each other presents from Santa. I think that, even when you grow up, you can still believe in "Santa" and the magic of Christmas without actually believing that someone flies to your house with magic reindeer and comes down your chimney.
I've been lurking on Aug15. Those badges that say "I went natural" or "EBF" annoy me. I don't think anyone has them here, but I find them super sanctimommy.
Agreed. I don't actually care if you went natural or ebf'd vs begging for an epidural 26 seconds after arriving at the hospital or relied on Similac to feed your baby.
I've been lurking on Aug15. Those badges that say "I went natural" or "EBF" annoy me. I don't think anyone has them here, but I find them super sanctimommy.
A FB mom's group I'm in is obsessed with mentioning that they're EBF, even in completely unrelated posts. As someone who had to supplement early and had a baby who struggled with weight gain, the need to drop the "E" annoys the crap out of me. My issue, not theirs, but still... that's apparently my UO, at least for that group!
Suzy & Brian November 3, 2007 "...this one time, at band camp..." ;-)
TTC #1 since 9/2012
BFP #1 2/16/13, EDD 10/13/13, CP 2/21/13
BFP #2 6/2/13
Baby J-Bug 2/8/14
My Wedding Bio from back in the day
I never believed in Santa. My mom tried to get me to believe but I just thought it was impossible even at a young age.
I'm not sure if I told my friends he wasn't real but don't remember any arguments with them or anything. Maybe I ruined it for people but I definitely didn't mean to do so.
I did argue with my mom about it though. I remember the news people saying that Santa was tracked over Australia or something and I looked at her and said, "Really, they're in on this too?"
I have absolutely no desire to have it just be me, DH, and LO on Christmas morning. I can't actually picture that scenario, and I don't want to. I want to spend my Christmas morning with lots of family around.
my UO is that this UO thread is bringing down my holiday cheer.
and i +1 @$hell about not wanting it to be just us three on christmas morning.
well be saving our presents for the afternoon when the whole family comes over. andplusalso i plan on making a huge christmas breakfast and i will want to take a morning nap with LO after breakfast
MH has an aunt and uncle who are twins... Ellen and Allen.
I'm not a fan, but my dad was making fun of us... We had Hayleigh, now Kinleigh... He was trying to guess our next name (Stanley, etc). Kinleigh is to honor Hayleigh... Our contending names for future babies are totally different.
dx PCOS 2007
BFP #1 (natural) 12/23/2010. Stillbirth due to IC 4/2/2011
TTC #2 starting 03/2012
RE starting 07/2012
05/2013 BFP on a Letrozole (Femara)/trigger!
Cerclage, Procardia, Makena, GD (with insulin), MBR, and we made it!
Our Angel was born sleeping at 20 weeks due to IC.
Late Entry: I am proud of my age. I don't feel the need to hide that I am *gasp* 34. I feel so fortunate to be here and hope to be blessed with many more years... and gray hairs.
Re: UO
I do have a friend who is also Jewish who does get offended by "Merry Christmas". I guess just because it's making the assumption that everyone celebrates Christmas. But for me, I think that people who say it are just being polite or friendly, so it doesn't bother me.
I feel like it's really weird to say "Happy Different Holiday" back. What's wrong with "Thanks"?
FWIW I can understand how it would be frustrating to constantly hear Merry Christmas as a non-celebrator. It's a pervasive reminder that you're different/other than the norm. Which is why I prefer to wish people Happy Holidays to avoid the assumption that they are celebrating anything in particular and it encompasses all the holidays going on, Hanukkah, Christmas, New Years, Kwanzaa, Winter Solstice, etc. If I know, for example, my friend is Jewish I'll wish her a Happy Hanukkah because I know she's celebrating.
Because it's easy for me, a person who celebrates Christmas, to say "well they're just being friendly" because while that's likely the case it's still a reminder that you're different and it sucks to hear constantly and is not the first/last time you'll encounter something that reminds you that you're "outside" the cultural mainstream.
I struggle with the whole holiday thing, TBH. I'm a lapsed Catholic who struggles with the pervasively "Christian nation" themes in our country. I feel for those people, kids especially, who don't participate and can't just go about their merry (haha) way without being barraged by reminders that they aren't part of this whole deal. But I also don't think people should stop saying Merry Christmas/whatever if they so chose.
Unsurprisingly, we don't do that stupid elf. Partially because it creeps me out. And I'm lazy.
I couldn't care less whether other people do the santa thing, and laugh/roll my eyes at their "zomgs santa is all LIES!!!" ridiculousness. Hope they don't fall off that high horse.
Sooner or later, your kid will learn Santa isn't real. It's not a life ruining experience people. And if it is, you've got waaaay bigger problems than the Buddhist neighbor's kid saying there's no santa.
Why isn't the onus on you/your kid to not have your kid ruin the Jewish kid's holiday by not talking about Santa? How do you think little kids whose parents don't participate because it's not part of their cultural celebration feel when they are told good boys/girls get presents from Santa and they've never once received a gift from Santa?
I think it's the difference between teaching your kids "we don't believe in Santa, but others do " and "your friends' parents are liars and there is no Santa". The former, acceptable. The latter, you're kind of an asshole, and that will probably make your kids act like assholes about it too.
TTC #1 since 9/2012
BFP #1 2/16/13, EDD 10/13/13, CP 2/21/13
BFP #2 6/2/13
Baby J-Bug 2/8/14 My Wedding Bio from back in the day
TTC #1 since 9/2012
BFP #1 2/16/13, EDD 10/13/13, CP 2/21/13
BFP #2 6/2/13
Baby J-Bug 2/8/14 My Wedding Bio from back in the day
I have absolutely no desire to have it just be me, DH, and LO on Christmas morning. I can't actually picture that scenario, and I don't want to. I want to spend my Christmas morning with lots of family around.
UO is opinion that you have that might be in the minority.
FFFC is confessing something you've actually done or thought.
Both are different from venting, which is just good old fashioned complaining.
And no to Rocky.
I'm not a fan, but my dad was making fun of us... We had Hayleigh, now Kinleigh... He was trying to guess our next name (Stanley, etc). Kinleigh is to honor Hayleigh... Our contending names for future babies are totally different.
dx PCOS 2007
BFP #1 (natural) 12/23/2010. Stillbirth due to IC 4/2/2011
TTC #2 starting 03/2012
RE starting 07/2012
05/2013 BFP on a Letrozole (Femara)/trigger!
Cerclage, Procardia, Makena, GD (with insulin), MBR, and we made it!
Our Angel was born sleeping at 20 weeks due to IC.