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Any other reactive airway mommas?

Well, my poor Emmett has a bad cold that has led to wheezing again. The doctors say that he has a reactive airway, but they don't think that he has asthma. I've been giving him albuterol treatments every 4 hours but he still has wheezing. The dr just started him on an oral steroid today, but he threw up right after so who knows how much he actually got.

Anyone else deal with this? Any words of advice for me?
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Re: Any other reactive airway mommas?

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    All 3 of my kids have/had breathing issues as young children.  As a general rule, doctors don't diagnose asthma until children are older.  There are many reasons for this, but mainly because once you have been medically diagnosed with asthma, there are long term consequences.  For example, it's considered if you want to join the military, get additional life insurance, etc. "Have you ever been diagnosed with the following conditions...."  Many babies outgrow it, so they really won't give that diagnosis early on.  It wasn't until my DS was hospitalized twice for breathing issues that they went ahead and gave him the diagnosis at about age 5.  I'm really sorry you're going through this.  My current LO has gone through 2 bouts of breathing treatments - once in May and again in early October.  But, she seems OK now.  I know it's no fun.  Here's hoping Emmett outgrows it.  My oldest DD did, and I'm hoping the same for this DD.


    **DD1 - 7/9/98**

    **DS - 11/9/00**

    **DD2 - 4/30/13**

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    It is exhausting!! I worry myself sick about it and all of the doctors act like it's NBD. It's so frustrating because when you worry all day and night that your baby is going to stop breathing, it's not no big deal.
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    we were never told that S has reactive airways, but a good portion of the time, if she gets sick, she gets a cough that won't go away unless she's on medication. Up to this point, she's been prescribed oral steroids 3 times since March and now if her cough lasts for more than a week or seems to get worse instead of better after a couple days, we go straight to albuterol at least 4 times a day. S never gets to the point of wheezing though so that might be somewhat different. She also currently on a 2mg dose of budesonide (which is an inhaled steroid medication for asthma) that we have to use daily as well. She hasn't officially been diagnosed with asthma, but because of her symptoms and frequency, the doctor is leaning towards it. Her allergist (who is also an asthma specialist) agrees as well. As for the oral steroid, if it's anything like the one S has been prescribed, you should see it helping within a couple days if it is just a byproduct of the cold. She usually gets prescribed a 5day prescription that's taken once a day and by day 2 or 3 (depending on how well she takes it) her cough is almost gone.

    I think, although I can't remember who it is, someone else on this board has a kid who starts to wheeze a lot when they get sick and is then on a 4hour albuterol regimen as well.

    I think it can take a couple days to a week for the albuterol treatments to eliminate the wheezing/coughing. If I understand it correctly, albuterol helps to open up the airways for up to 4 hours, but it doesn't "fix" the problem, it just makes it easier to breathe. In return, because it's easier to breathe, more air gets into her lungs which help fight off whatever is causing her to cough. If you'd like I can totally get into more of what the different "medication" options would be if it is asthma (as explained to us by the allergist) but I don't to overload you with information off the cuff :)
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    @flyliceandcoffee‌, thank you for the extensive response! Your LO seems very similar to Emmett. His last cold left this lingering cough that never completely went away, and then he picked up this current cold.

    I just hate giving Emmett so many meds, especially steroids. Do you give the inhaled steroids daily, even when she's not sick?

    This is day 2 of the steroid, and he does seem a little better, thankfully! When your LO takes the 5 day steroid, does she take the entire 5 days? My doctor said we could stop after 3 days if he is better, but I thought all medication was supposed to be taken until completion.
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    this is gonna be long, just some fair warning in case nobody cares...

    we do give S the oral steroids for the full 5 days @kelseyhh even if her cough does seem to be getting better because, at least in our case, the frequency to which S gets a cough can potentially be damaging to her lungs. Our pedi explained it to us like this: when S is coughing, it's affecting her airways. at her age, prolonged coughing and/or the frequency of coughing spells means she's not getting enough air in, and that is what can cause damage to her lungs. For us, because she does get sick a lot and that oftentimes turns into a cough, if we don't get rid of the cough completely and quickly, we're risking damage if we let it go too long. I think (and I could be wrong) that because your Emmett doesn't have the history of a recurring cough, he can stop the medication sooner if he is better because that oral steroid is a pretty potent drug.

    As for the inhaled steroid, yah, as of right now we do have to do it everyday. Like you, we hate having to give her all these meds, even more so for an extended period of time which is what this inhaled steroid is. When we were put on it back in October, our pedi told us to use it everyday through at least the middle of Dec because he wanted to get her through the fall without another round of coughing because his thought was that it might be seasonal allergy related. When we saw the allergist in Nov, he kind of wanted to keep us on it all year long but we are resistant to that idea because 1) it is a steroid drug and if we are on it for a prolonged period of time, we have to come in even more for check ups because prolonged steroid use can stunt growth etc etc etc, and 2) just the idea of having her on meds everyday for the foreseeable future is just sad. We talked it through with the allergist and the doctor and as of right now, the plan is to keep her on the inhaled steroid until mid-Jan, then we are going to wean her off of it (half dose for a month or two) before we take her off of it completely. Once we take her off the medication, we will be going to a on-demand type of requirement. So for us that means, as soon as she gets sick (regardless of if she has a cough or not), we start both albuterol and the inhaled steroid medication and we keep her on that for at least 2 weeks. The goal of that is if we can keep her airways open before she develops a cough, then the likelihood she'll actually get a cough and then need more medication is lower.
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    @kelseyhh and @flyliceandcoffee I understand your concerns of having your child on inhaled steroids long term.  I was concerned too.  After a year of it with no problems, I took the initiative myself to stop giving it to my middle son.  Well, he picked something up and ended up in the hospital.  When they were talking about transferring him to ICU because they were pretty sure they would need to put him on a breathing machine within the next few hours since he was struggling so much to breath even on 100% oxygen and continuous nebulizer medicine, I completely lost it.  But, the trooper he is, was able to keep struggling to breath and was never transferred.  We were in there for 5 days.  I have never felt like a worse mother than when the allergist said he was confused as to how he got so bad being on the daily inhaled steroids.  I had to come clean and tell him I wasn't giving them to him.  So, learn from my mistake.  As a mom, you worry about the long term consequences of medication, but if your child dies because of such a severe breathing episode, it really doesn't matter, does it?  After that, I continued with them religiously, and we finally got him off them at age 12.


    **DD1 - 7/9/98**

    **DS - 11/9/00**

    **DD2 - 4/30/13**

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    Wow I haven't been on in a while but glad I decided to pop in today. Basically we are in the same boat as many of you.

    DD was diagnosed with RAD in October. We had to take her to the ER after several treatments of Albuterol had done next to nothing to improve her breathing and wheezing. Thankfully we were able to go home that night and were sent home with a prescription for the oral steroid for 5 days.

    At her follow up the next day the Ped diagnosed her as this was DD 3rd serious breathing incident since birth (one of which was a 3day hospitalization). We were told to continue the Albuterol for a few more days and add the Budesonide, twice daily. After another week we were told to drop the Budesonide to once daily - thru the winter.

    Like everyone else we were very concerned about the continued steroid and so I did a lot of research and asked a lot of questions but in the end it really does seem that this is the best way to move forward, for now. Our hope is that she won't wind up being diagnosed with asthma and that we will eventually be able to drop the Budesonide in the winter months all together.

    Hugs to all our RAD Babies xo
     


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    @surpriseaddition, I'm glad your son is okay. I think, at least in our case, we're working with both our pediatrician and allergist to wean her off the budesonide because she has never had difficulty breathing or any wheezing. For us, it's just the coughing. When she isn't having a coughing episode, she is not breathing hard or having any difficulty, which I think is why her doctors are more okay with us not being on it full-time. Our allergist has never actually seen her while on the albuterol so he was basing his initial recommendation of staying on the inhaled steroid full-time just because of her medication history. When we explained why she was put on it, and that neither ourselves, or her pediatrician heard any wheezing, he was much more okay with the on-demand treatment. I think if we had wheezing history or anything like that, we would definitely be more cautious.

    @TrulyBlessed22, I'm glad your LO is doing well on the medication and it's nice to see you online!
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    I'm so sorry to see so many of you on here struggling with the same issues. However, I am really grateful for all of the advice.

    Emmett's audible wheezing seems to have stopped (although as of yesterday my DH could still hear a slight wheeze using a stethoscope) and he's acting normal. However, his cough is still pretty bad after 5 days of the oral steroid, which worries me.

    We go back to the pediatrician today, so we'll see what she has to say. We also have an apt with a pediatric pulmonologist but that isn't until Dec. 24th.

    The thought of long term medication scares me a lot, but you're right @surpiseaddition, it's way better than the alternative.

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    Our oldest has chronic bronchiolitis... he was diagnosed at 3 mo old and has been using a neb with albuterol  whenever necessary since then. Sometimes oral steroids as well, if the neb doesn't help his high respirations. Our pedi said lots of kids like this grow out of it, and some will be diagnosed with asthma (they dont like to make that diagnosis until later- around age 4 or 5). It's hard to watch your LO not be able to breathe :( do you know how to count his respirations ? That's something I've found to ease my mind a little when he's having a particularly hard day or night. I count them before, give him a neb treatment, then count them again to see how much it improved after the albuterol. As far as tips... we do a lot of distracting with TV so get him to sit through breathing treatments haha. GL :) 
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    Well, after a visit with the pulmonologist this morning, he has diagnosed Emmett with asthma. My heart is breaking for what this means for him and our family. However, I am thankful that we now have a plan to hopefully keep him healthy and breathing. Thank you everyone on here for your support. It is so comforting to know that I can turn to people who understand what I am going through.
    Merry Christmas an happy holidays to you all!
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