Does anyone home school?

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farmrsboywife said:

farmrsboywife said:

Wait, a school department made up a disability? Why would they do that? It costs more money to service a special needs kid so usually districts will minimize issues to save $, not label someone inaccurately. I would take the opinion of the school department who spent more time with the student in a classroom setting over the opinion of a pediatrician. It sounds like an awful idea to deny services to a kid who is struggling in the public school system because you don't want them labeled as having a disability and homeschooling instead. I'd argue those are the kids who need public school the most.

This was back in the 90's My brother had epilepsy not a learning disability. He was tested by doctors over and over and over and over and over at the request of the school district (which my dad was on the school board for at the time) and every time he came back fine.

My kid has epilepsy too. It's pretty common knowledge that neurons misfiring impacts learning. Even if he didn't test poorly enough to trigger a dx if he was struggling in the classroom additional supports would have been appropriate. I don't know why a parent would fight that and pull their kid out of school.

See my previous post- it changed the way the funding was provided to give that extra support. Nobody was challenging the effects of his epilepsy- they were trying to tag on an additional disability so they didn't have to take on the cost.

Considering that it costs a school $23,000 a year to educate a special needs student I don't blame them for trying to get federal help with the cost. It still doesn't make a lick of sense why your parents would fight and pull their kid out of school because they wanted to give him more support not less.

kcisthebombdotcom

farmrsboywife said:

Sorry.. In the last 20 years test scores and intelligence in the United States have started falling. Maybe this whole thread makes sense now...

Test scores=\= intelligence. Just like getting good grades at home with your mom =\= professional success.

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farmrsboywife said:

farmrsboywife said:

farmrsboywife said:

Wait, a school department made up a disability? Why would they do that? It costs more money to service a special needs kid so usually districts will minimize issues to save $, not label someone inaccurately. I would take the opinion of the school department who spent more time with the student in a classroom setting over the opinion of a pediatrician. It sounds like an awful idea to deny services to a kid who is struggling in the public school system because you don't want them labeled as having a disability and homeschooling instead. I'd argue those are the kids who need public school the most.

This was back in the 90's My brother had epilepsy not a learning disability. He was tested by doctors over and over and over and over and over at the request of the school district (which my dad was on the school board for at the time) and every time he came back fine.

My kid has epilepsy too. It's pretty common knowledge that neurons misfiring impacts learning. Even if he didn't test poorly enough to trigger a dx if he was struggling in the classroom additional supports would have been appropriate. I don't know why a parent would fight that and pull their kid out of school.

See my previous post- it changed the way the funding was provided to give that extra support. Nobody was challenging the effects of his epilepsy- they were trying to tag on an additional disability so they didn't have to take on the cost.

Considering that it costs a school $23,000 a year to educate a special needs student I don't blame them for trying to get federal help with the cost. It still doesn't make a lick of sense why your parents would fight and pull their kid out of school because they wanted to give him more support not less.

They didn't fight it, but no doctor would just slap on a diagnosis like that and my mom got tired of all the bull shit. I see nothing wrong with that.

Epilepsy comes with a bunch of comorbids which impact the brain/functioning long after the seizures stop. Maybe your brother got lucky and is hugely successful. The type of supports a special needs child needs to prepare for adult life can't be replicated at home. I'm actually not anti homeschooling. I think with the right kid and the right parent it can work out well. I think its a horrible choice for a special needs child.

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babylentilbean said:

kcisthebombdotcom said:

babylentilbean said:

So what you're saying is that I should put him back in a school that was failing him so he can be properly socialized? So now his education should suffer so he can learn to do group work? I don't think so! His social skills can be a little less than perfect for a better education. Also, I met several homeschooled kids in college. I would have never known they were homeschooled. They knew how to work in groups with others and to deal with different personalities. Nice try though.

There are a million options outside of sending your kid to a subpar learning situation or homeschooling. It doesn't need to be one or the other. Also that's great you met some homeschooled adults who fared fine socially but the plural of anecdote is not data. We know that homeschooling kids fare well academically but there's zero long term studies on how these kids do once they hit the real world.

I'm willing to take my chances so he gets what he needs academically. 

What a horribly short sighted way of thinking. Your child needs professional help. Your child needs the social support much more than a neurotypical kid. I would work my way up the food chain with paperwork from professionals in hand to get my kid the services he needed.

rosesandpetals

farmrsboywife said:

Sorry.. In the last 20 years test scores and intelligence in the United States have started falling. Maybe this whole thread makes sense now...

If you were homeschooled and your kids are (going to be) homeschooled and you've never worked in a school, how the fuck would you know what goes on in one and whether or not there have been changes?

IQ tests are actually very rarely adminstered, they need to be conducted in a one-on-one setting with a licensed psychologist. The "IQ" tests that come back with results from the Iowa tests (and other standardized tests) are not true IQ tests. The average IQ in the US has been steadily increasing since the 40s, due largely to the increase in standardized testing and children's ability to be familiar with testing environments. Intelligence tests can also only be adminstered once per lifetime or the results are not true measures of IQ (as with many other tests, the MMPI, rorschach test, etc). IS give IQ tests as part of some IEPs to measure growth in problem solving abilities, but a person's IQ does not change over their life. Overall, many, many professionals do not agree that an IQ can be quantified at all. If you ask Gardner, there are too many types of intelligences to even begin an attempt at quantification. You know nothing about what you're talking about but nice of you to call us stupid in the meantime.

rosesandpetals

farmrsboywife said:

You guys really have a complex to always be right don't you? Tl;dr (I really don't care)

That's the spirit! With a philosophy like "tl;dr" I see no reason your homeschooling won't be a success.

And if by "you guys" you mean professionals who won't let ignorant internet randoms tell them their career can be replicated on pinterest, then yeah. We do.

kcisthebombdotcom

I'm sorry, people trying to homeschool a special needs child makes me ragey. One of those times i truthfully feel sorry for their kid.

kcisthebombdotcom

farmrsboywife said:

I'm sorry, people trying to homeschool a special needs child makes me ragey. One of those times i truthfully feel sorry for their kid.

People who try to shove their opinions down onto others makes me stabby.

Not an opinion. It's a fact that kids who receive professional help from trained, qualified professionals are going to be more likely to be employed/integrated into society than those who do not.

Knottie48097161

Laugh out fucking loud at people that have a grudge to settle. In other words "I am wrong you guys are making me look like I have no clue what I am taking about because I don't like research and you do." So instead of admitting you are wrong and KC is right everyone here has a grudge. Um okay. Oh and just FTR social skills actually are more important for long term success than intelligence level.

Knottie48097161

Pretty sure KC is not the one butt hurt here.

Cherryblossoms07

Pretty sure KC is not the one butt hurt here.

No, I am pretty sure that is R&P. Everyone else is here for the show.

rosesandpetals

Cherryblossoms07 said:

Pretty sure KC is not the one butt hurt here.

No, I am pretty sure that is R&P. Everyone else is here for the show.

Because I think she's an idiot? Ok.

rosesandpetals

Uhh, this is TB. Arguing is the name of the game.

Cherryblossoms07

farmrsboywife said:

Cherryblossoms07 said:

Pretty sure KC is not the one butt hurt here.

No, I am pretty sure that is R&P. Everyone else is here for the show.

Because I think she's an idiot? Ok.

Because you're picking fights?

No, it is just an observation. I know I am not butt hurt ( I am pretty sure her beef is with me or at least started with me) and you don't seem to be butt hurt. Plus, everyone came back here the last couple days for a reason.

rosesandpetals

Cherryblossoms07 said:

farmrsboywife said:

Cherryblossoms07 said:

Pretty sure KC is not the one butt hurt here.

No, I am pretty sure that is R&P. Everyone else is here for the show.

Because I think she's an idiot? Ok.

Because you're picking fights?

No, it is just an observation. I know I am not butt hurt ( I am pretty sure her beef is with me or at least started with me) and you don't seem to be butt hurt. Plus, everyone came back here the last couple days for a reason.

Who are you talking to?

On a side note, I hate the term "butt hurt". It's like "moist". ick.

Samuelismomma

@rosesandpetals‌ yes I'll take any resource. There is a private christian school. We need to look into that also. How do I find out how the kids did on standard tests, etc?

rosesandpetals

@Samuelismomma ‌ i will pm you tonight. Dd just woke up from nap. Not all private schools take standardized tests, though.

There isnt a "feud". People come back to read the drama when the bat signal goes up.

Cherryblossoms07

There is no feud. It just felt like R&P was pissed off at the wrong person. I didn't want someone else feeling attacked for something I did.

Keeptruckin

To be honest, I never once thought home schooling would ever be a consideration. But every family has to evaluate what's best for them. I am sure 99 prevent of kids do better in a classroom. But you never know until you have that 1 percent kid.
It's not for us, but I guess because it doesn't affect me personally I don't really care how people educate their kids. I do know two kids who are homeschooled. Both have autism. One tried public school for a few years, she withdrew further and further. Her mom home schools and does it well. The daughter one of the best ballet dancers in her age range in Canada. So I think even without ASD she would have been homeschooled.
I do understand the fear people have about home schooling, perhaps picturing a Duggarist existence. But it's changed a lot. In my city home schooling looks like this. You pay 8500 a year to belong to one of three private schools who have a home ciriculum. Your child attends music and gym class weekly with other students and all field trips. You and your child meet with tutors once a week. Fifty percent of the actual lessons take place in the community.
Part of me wonders if it's just another way for parents to stay too involved in their kids lives. I need that separation between DD and I, however I don't judge those who don't, or at least I try not to.