Trouble TTC

How do you not let it take over?

Hi there,
I am still very new in my journey. My first RE appointment was a couple weeks ago, and I have an HSG scheduled on Friday. My DH's SA came back completely normal, which is somewhat of a comfort that we don't have work through MFI issues. I tend to research a lot and try to see a general (or sometimes super detailed) outcome of all the possibilities. However, with all the different possibilities IF seems to present due to all the different diagnoses and how bodies react, I am finding myself consumed reading TB, blogs, and anything out there that might give me some answers. I "know" I should just wait until I am able to hear the HSG and blood work results and for my RE to develop a plan. It's hard to sit and wait. I am sure you all understand. Do you have any tips/tricks/advice? Did any of you just let yourself be consumed to get through the wait time?

I am glad I found TB, and as I read the OPP, WTF, and TP threads I am so glad I am not alone in all the emotions that come with this.

Re: How do you not let it take over?

  • @NariaDreaming and @booklover811 Good to know I'm not the only one. Thanks.

    I only work every other day (part-time teacher), and so most of this happens on my off-days. I tend not to go out and about on those days (I live in a place where tons of OPP's are everywhere), but I need to direct my energy towards something- if only I could get motivated to have a sparkly clean house.
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  • as soon as I read the topic, I knew exactly what you meant!

    It is an absolute struggle.  When it really starts to get to me, I find the thing that works best for me is to think about all the things we have done, and can do because we don't have children yet.  For example, we'll last minute decide to go to the city with some friends, or randomly travel to a music festival.  And I can drink at that party/event/dinner this weekend!  I also actively don't make it the only topic of conversation with DH.  If I find myself getting swallowed into it, I change gears - read a book, talk about something else, go for a walk, etc.  

    Also, copious amount of wine ;)  
  • I try to find other things in my life to look forward to. Like a vacation, holiday or just something fun that I want to do, but honestly it is always on my mind. I have days where I read and do a ton of research and other days that I stay away from the internet because I've had enough. It's hard not to let it consume you.

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    TTC #1 January 2009
    January 2010 SA results: Count 16 million, Motility 40%, Morphology 2%
    January 2010- Surprise BFP! DS born 10/1/2010 :)
    January 2013 TTC #2
    September 2013 Repeat SA: Count= 1.7 million, Motility= 24%, Morphology= 2%
    November 6th 1st Appointment with RE: diagnosed with severe MFI
    Testing to try to determine a cause & possible treatment for MFI
    CD 3 blood work for me. RE does not want to repeat my HSG/lap at this point,
    but may want to before moving forward with any fertility treatments.
    After seeing the uro, DH is currently taking lots of supplements and clomid to try to boost his count. We will have a repeat SA in February to see if it works.
    Follow up SA numbers are: Count= 4 million, Motility= 40%, Morphology= 1%
    Uro wants us to have another follow up SA 5/9 to see if we see further improvement than we are back to the RE to make a game plan.

    SA 5/9/2014 Count: 12 Million, Motility: 60%, and Morphology 2%. We will be doing iui #1 in late June

    IUI #1 6/28 clomid + ovidrel, post wash count 3 million total sperm= BFN

    IUI # 2 7/21 clomid+ ovidrel. post wash count 900,000 total sperm= BFN

    IVF planned for early November- cancelled due to cyst

    December IVF #1- 22 eggs, 20 mature,16 fertilized

    12/9 Transferred 1 4AA Blast, 6 frosties


    *****Everyone is welcome******

  • Wine. Wine helps.

    ^:)^ I second that.

    It's overwhelming, especially at the beginning. You want to dot your I's & cross your T's to make sure you're doing everything right.  I TRY and take at least 20 minutes out of every day and either work out, do yoga/meditate, read a book, something that doesn't relate or focus on IF. Wine helps, A LOT...
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    3T January Siggy Challenge: New Years Resolutions 
    TTC since 10/2010 (Rhythm method since 2007)

    Me (33) Sept 2012 - DX Low ovulation/progesterone, Luteal Phase Defect. HSG 5/2012: both tubes are open, cervix and lining look good;
    September 2014 DX Hashimoto's; November 2014: PCOS IR

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    DH (37) Sept 2012 SA Normal; October 2014 Mild MFI count 42 Million, Motility 36%, Morphology 2%. Clomid 50mg,
    ***
    2004 Cyrosurgery, LEEP
    May 2012 - HSG Clear; June 2012 - Appointment with RE
    July 2012 - October 2012 - Clomid 50mg W/ TI & Progesterone 3 mature follicles- BFN
    January 2013 IUI #1 (900,000 post wash) Clomid 50mg, TI & Progesterone 2 mature follicles - BFN
    February 2013 IUI #2 (1.3 Mil post wash) Clomid 50mg, TI & Progesterone 4 mature follicles - BFN
    March 2013 IUI #1-3 (2.5 mil post wash) Clomid 50mg, Baby Aspirin (lining thinned) TI & Progesterone - 2 mature follicles BFN
    April 2013 Benched due to cyst, May 2013 WTF appointment
    June 2013 DH SA mild MFI break for 2 months to re-test; August 2013 - DH SA 36 Mil count, 36% Motility, Morp 2%
    September - December 2013 - Mental sanity Break
    January 2014 - IUI #4 switches to natural due to scheduling conflict Femara TI & Progesterone - 1 mature follicle - BFN
    May 2014-June 2014 - DH Appointment w/ Urologist to check Bi-lateral Varicocele; 2nd opinion w/ another urologist - bi-lateral varicocele dx is slight no surgery
    July 2014 DH starts clomid 25mg daily SA 53.8 Mil count, Motility 37%, Morph 3%;
    September 2014 DH Repeat SA after being on clomid for 3 months 42 Mil Count, Motility 36%, Morph 2%
    October 2014 Me: Hashimoto's DX, DH taken off clomid;
    November 2014 Me: new RE PCOS IR Diagnosis
    December 2014: IUI #4 Follitism 75iu 7 days, TI, IUI & Progesterone, BFMFN

    January 2015: IUI #5
    Gonal-F 75iu 7 days, TI, IUI & Progesterone, Another BFMFN onto IUI #6
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  • edited November 2014
    I completely agree with @Ann612 & @TLooney17.  As much as I hate comparing my life to my fertile friends and family, it helps to at times.  I know I wouldn't be able to go out at the drop of a hat, take the vacations we want to take, stay out late or even do little things like get drunk at the same time my husband does.  That sounds really silly but I realize more lately that the grass is always greener.  

    Of course that doesn't always work though and at those times I know I have to take a step back.  Focus my attention on other things happening in my life instead what isn't.  

    It's definitely difficult, you're so not alone.  And sometimes it will feel all consuming, but hopefully you'll find ways to help cope with what you are dealing with.  Being on this board is a great start.
  • Everything PPs have said. Keeping busy with dates, projects, work and wine is what helps us. 

    I know trying to get through the testing can feel like it takes forever and I remember feeling like we wasted a cycle the month we did all our testing but in the end, I am so so glad I did it at the end of the day and had a better understanding of what was going on with my body. The unknown is what killed me. 

    Also, after every test, doctors appt, and at the end of every cycle no matter if the outcome is good or bad we have something planned. Even if it is ordering in food and renting a movie. Plan something so you're not consumed.  

    Diagnosed PCOS 2013
    7th Round of Fertility treatment (Femara + Ovidrel + IUI) 12/14 = BFP. DS born Sept.15 
    Natural BFP Feb 2017. DD born Oct. 2017
    Natural BFP Aug. 2019, EDD April 2020

  • I think this is something we are all struggling with, I know I am.. I am a goal motivated person.  It went from I have to beat this cancer, to I have to graduate, to I have to get pregnant.. I seem to be a bit obsessed. I also read everything.. research anything to help.. I am meeting with my RE on Tuesday and feel like each day is just dragging. I know all my results are in and just wanting on results on DH SA.. Good luck to you!
    Married: 12/15/2012    TTC: 08/2014
    Husband: 26 SA: normal
    Me: 23 Low AMH and damaged ovaries due to chemotherapy.
    No AF or O in 3 years. HSG showed a slight T shaped uterus.

    High Risk OB 9/29- got the ok to get pregnant.
    RE Appt:  10/28/ U/S showed follicles, but also small damaged ovaries.
    B/W results CD0: all normal except low AMH at 1.3
    Cycle 1-November (TI)- Femera 2.5mg, 2mg Estradoil, and Trigger=BFN
    Cycle 2-December (TI)- Femera 2.5 mg ,4mg Estradoil, and Trigger= No O
    Cycle 3-January (TI)- Femera 5 mg, 2mg Estra
    doil, and Trigger=


  • I had IF tunnel vision for a long time. I'm currently on a break and I'm finding it very helpful and healthy because I've been forced to refocus some energy on other things. My advice is to schedule fun activities and try not to neglect your partner, friends and yourself - make sure you keep up your other interests.

    Official diagnosis: Unexplained IF. I am 32. I have low ovarian reserve (low AMH), and poor egg quality. I've also been diagnosed with mild glandular developmental arrest (lining problems, detected with EFT).

    We are using open ID donor sperm. IUIs #1-7=BFN. IVF September 2014 antagonist protocol, 8R,5M,3F, 5 day transfer of 1 morula = BFN. IVF#2 planned for January 2015 (antagonist protocol + HGH).

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  • Like @Ann612 said, the title of this post resonates. Actually when I read it, I almost said" I don't" out loud because honestly, it has taken over. And most of the time I let it. It is worse to fight the obsessive need to know everything than it is to take the hour or so to google the crap out of something. I usually can find some sort of peace in that. Whenever I need to go down into an IF rabbit hole, whether google or TB, I just do. MH has learned that when I am glued to my computer screen it probably means I just need some time, and if more than 5 hours have passed, he will intervene (I exaggerate...ok, for the most part I exaggerate).

    I also agree with what others have said about getting out and doing things. Being busy helps, and so does being around people (especially, when I know the IF won't come up). There have been a few times where I have felt super crummy, and the last thing I want to do is be around smiling happy people. I've found that if I fake the smile long enough, a real one usually comes out.

    Anyways, my point is. Getting through IF can take a lot out of you and it demands a lot of attention. Take a break if you need one, go to google town if you need to, vent here if you need to. Whatever it takes to get through the days. It won't last forever.
    ****SIGGY WARNING****

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    TTC since May 2013

    Me: 31, blocked tube
    DH: 35, azoospermia :(
    IUI #1 (50 mg Clomid, Ovidrel) on 9/7/2014: BFN
    IUI #2 (100 mg Clomid, Ovidrel) on 10/3/2014:
    BFN
    IUI #3 (100 mg Clomid, Ovidrel, Estradiol) on 11/1/2014: BFN
    First RE appt. on 11/11/2014
    November 2014: Benched due to cyst :(
    IUI #4 (5 mg Letrozole, Follistim, Ovidrel, Crinone) on 12/26/2014: BFP!!!
    Beta 1 (1/9/2015): 292     Beta 2 (1/12/2015): 843


  • @emmuffy‌ Same here.. We started our break last month and I must say, it has worked wonders.

    OP I really have no advice for you. Sorry. When I was going thru treatments IF completely ruled me and there was nothing I could do. Just try to keep busy so you don't have a ton of down time to think about it.
    :: Me: 30 ~ DH: 27 ::
       :: TTC since Oct 2013 ~ NTNP since Dec 2010 ::
    :: DX: PCOS Characteristics & MFI ::
    ~May 2014: 1st Consult with RE~
    ~SA #1/#2 (low on all #'s), HSG (found non-threatening uterine fibroid)~
    ~*1500mg Metformin Daily*~
    *June: Medicated Cycle #1: 5mg Letrozole + Trigger + TI + Progesterone = BFN* 
    *July: Medicated Cycle #2: 5mg Letrozole + Trigger + TI + Progesterone = BFN*
     *Aug: Medicated Cycle #3: 5mg Letrozole + Trigger + TI + Progesterone = BFN*
    *Sept: IUI #1: 5mg Letrozole + Follistim + Ovidrel + IUI + Progesterone = BFN*
    Possibly Looking at IVF.. RE Suggested DH See a Urologist Before Moving On With Treatments 
    *Currently on a Break*
    ~*All Welcome*~
     

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     ::: 3T November Siggy Challenge: Animals Being Jerks:::
  • I struggle with this and I'm still really new to the process. Thank-you everybody for your honest posts. I'm glad to hear that I'm not alone. I'm trying to keep in mind that I need to do something for my body, mind, and spirit everyday. Some days I'm more successful than others. 

    TTC since Sept. 2013
    09/14: New anterior 3cm Fibroid on U/S, no change in size 11/14
    10/14: SA normal
    12/14: next RE appointment - cancelled due to BFP
    BFP on 11/21/14, EDD 08/03/15



  • As others have said, we took a long break this winter to clear our mind and we are now back 100% in it.

    It's hard not to obsess and all the hobbies in the world won't fill that void. You have to choose at some point to let go of things that are too hard.

    If I have one tiny advice, is to try to still have good "just because" sex with your husband.

    Good luck.
  • Honestly, it has taken over. I will be seeing a therapist soon. Getting involved in a volunteer project really helped me to see outside of my own self, though, so I recommend it.
    Love 2010 | Marriage 2011 | TTC #1 since 2012
    PCOS | Anovulatory | Metformin + Letrozole
  • I just try to stay busy, but as others have said-- sometimes I allow myself to obsess. The one thing I have noticed recently, though, is that I tend to feel a lot worse after googling rather than better. So, with that in mind, I am trying to avoid it so that I can stay more positive. I will say that I think it feels a lot better now that we have a plan and are taking steps by working with an RE and doing treatments.. I honestly feel a lot better than I did when we were on our 10th, 11th, and 12 months trying and I felt so hopeless. I hope that once the testing phase is over and you have a game plan that you feel the same sense of hope!

    Me: 27 DH: 35

    TTC #1 Since July 2013

    Started RE Testing July 2014

    2 HSG tests: Right tube is blocked, possible endo.

    TSH elevated, started Synthroid 25 mg daily.

    October, 2014: Femara 5 mg + TI ---> 3 follies on blocked tube side ---> BFN

    November, 2014: Femara + Ovidrel + IUI#1--2 follies (on the good side), 46 mil. motile sperm=BFN

    Nov-Dec 2014: Femara + Ovidrel + IUI #2 (1 follie, 76 mil. motile sperm) + Endometrin=BFN

    January, 2014: Femara + Ovidrel + IUI #3 (1 follie, 38 mil. motile sperm)=???

    New RE appt. scheduled for 1/14.


    3T January Siggy Challenge: New Years Resolutions

    Mine: Lose the weight I put on from booze and cookies over Christmas.

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  • You ladies are all awesome! Thank you so much!
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