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Speaking of crappy MIL

Just to give you some history:
In 2011 I was in the middle of my 4th m/c and we went to visit DH family I told him beforehand I didn't want to go I was too much of mess. He insisted it would be fine blah blah. It was a disaster and it ended with his mother betraying me by telling her sister about my m/c's and major health issues which I had specifically told her I didn't want anyone to know because as you ladies know people say horrible things. Well she betrayed me and then lied to me over and over about it. Then her sister who I refer to as voldemort, lit into me about why I was having kids if I was so screwed up etc and said that my m/c didnt matter because they never became children and that she has no idea why DH picked such a high maint person. It was awful every disease, every m/c, everything that I never knew could become a weapon did. And my soul was shattered because it all could have been prevented if his mother had not betrayed me and then lied. And DH was to blame for forcing me to go with this woman after I told him something was wrong. Well long story short we almost got divorced but his grandfather on the other side stepped in and told me his mother is a troublemaker with a huge mouth and her family has serious issues etc. DH and I have never been the same. And of course now that we have LO things are more complicated.

Well last week he went to visit his mother and grandfather without me for 2 days, outside the US. DH promised he would go nowhere near his aunt. So he went came back LO was great and he never said another word. Fast forward to yesterday after not speaking a word to me for 3 years his aunt voldemort emailed me and told me she had seen LO and that basically I should forgive her and that all of a sudden she cares about DH and his family and we should move on. She also rubbed in a few things about this pg and if I am ever able to have more children, as well as some other crappy things. It felt like someone had stabbed me in the heart. I almost threw the phone at DH's head and then cut his balls off. I feel so betrayed that he didn't even mention this to me and that it was clear his mother helped write this letter. I am never letting LO go anywhere with DH again, he lost that privilege.

My question is should I email this bitch back? Should I ask DH if he saw her? Should I send him this email? 

I am so hurt I can barely look at him, I never had another human hurt me as deeply as her and he knows it. 
6 m/c
Anovulatory cycles, increased Synthroid Diagnosed Sep 2010
Natural cycle Dec 2010 BFP M/C 6 1/2 Weeks, D&E Jan 2011
1 Clomid/Ovidrel BFN May 2011
Natural cycle Aug 2011 BFP M/C 4 Weeks
1 IUI Sept 2011 BFP M/c 7 weeks
Provera Dec 2011 BFP M/C 3 Weeks
DQ ALPHA HLA MATCH, High NK Cells Diagnosed Dec 2011
IVF March 2012 BFP m/c 4weeks 5 days (IL, Prednisone)
IVF#2w/DS July 2012 MEGA FAILURE BFN (IL, Dexamethasone)
Diagnosed No real HLA Match, DQ Beta Triad, High TNF, Low NK Cells
Oct 2012 Natural Cycle m/c 4wks (Lovenox, Prednisone) 
Went to Beer Center- high tnf, low lad, implantation failure
Nov/Dec 2012 LIT Treatment
Dec 12 Humira
Jan 2013 BFP
Humira,LIT,Prednisone, Lovenox, IVIG, Baby Aspirin
Miracle Born August 2013 Premature

Yours doesn't have to be a sad story



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Re: Speaking of crappy MIL

  • Wow. Just wow. I'm so sorry this happened-it's just awful. This makes me sick to my stomach :(

    I agree with not responding to the email.

    I would probably ask DH again if he saw his aunt, and tell him to think carefully about his answer. Either way, I would be showing him the email too.

    Can you go to couples counseling? He needs to understand how devistatingly painful the things his mother and aunt have done really are. Maybe a neutral 3rd party can help him see how hurtful his actions are.

    I also would not let lo visit with him anymore.
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  • Aye im sorry. I wouldn't email as well. It will just light the fire and give the woman and in to keep contacting you. I would definitely talk to your husband about why he said nothing re seeing her. I know from personal experience with my husband and his family he thought it was best to hide it and appease his (parents - family) and do so. Hence..ball chopping! Definitely tell him how you feel and when it comes to your lo its a joint decision. I totally get how you feel with my husbands horrible family. For us we haven't got to counseling in a long while but I swear it's the only thing that kept up together. He was raised differently and believes it's better to have a horrible toxic relationship then none where I would cut ties then allow my children to see such dysfunction. Again we are still working on it. He know's at this point there will be a divorce if he can't put his family first (his children and myself). I hope things get better for you all. And I hope these family members live far far away. 

    Married: 5/09 ~ TTC Since: 10/10 ~ PCOS ~ Progesterone from 10/10 - 2/11 ~ HSG on 3/18 - Clear ~ Started Metformin 1000mg & Clomid 50mg 2/11 ~ Metformin upped to 1500mg 4/6 ~ 6/7 Now going to SG and put on Clomid, Ovidrel, Gonal F, Prometrium, Estrace ~ IUI #1 7/2 = BFP!!!!!! March 6th our little man was born. 

    6/17/13 - Ovidrel, Follistim, Prometrium ~ IUI #1 7/2 = BFP! March 17th our St. Pattys day baby arrived

    10/29/17 - Started process for IVF, got pregnant & miscarried a 2nd time since summer. 2/22 started stims - Menopur, Gonal F, Cetrotide - retrieval 3/6 - , PIO, estrace 3xday - FET 4/18 = Beta 1: 616; Beta 2: 1342 = BFP 

  • I strongly suggest couple counseling so that your husband's family doesn't destroy your marriage. I hope you are able to find some kind of peace with his family. You have written extensively about how much they have hurt you. Unfortunately you cannot control what they do or say, but you can control your reactions and the negative energy you give them.
    TTC since 3-08 IVF # 1 Dec 2011 BFP DD born at 31 weeks 6-24-12

    FET #1 Dec 2013 BFN

    FET # 2 Feb 2014 BFN

    No more frosties

    IVF #2. September 2014

    PGD yielded 2 perfect 5d blasts

    SET November 9, 2014
    Nov 23, 2014. Another BFN

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  • MoFree said:
    I strongly suggest couple counseling so that your husband's family doesn't destroy your marriage. I hope you are able to find some kind of peace with his family. You have written extensively about how much they have hurt you. Unfortunately you cannot control what they do or say, but you can control your reactions and the negative energy you give them.
    Exactly this. 

    You can't reply to the email. If you send a scathing reply or any response that isn't friendly or agreeing with her, she will spread it all around further supporting her position of you being the problem. 

    TTC Since 3/2010
    Me-36, Unexplained Infertility, DH-35, all clear
    Clomid 50mg 12/2011 = BFN
    Clomid 100mg 1/2012 = BFN, with Cyst
    IVF #1 Lupron/Menopur/Gonal-f/HCG Trigger
    ER 4/19/12 = 11 retrieved, 6 fertilized,
    ET 4/22/12 = 2 transfered (day 3), remaining 3 weren't good enough to freeze
    Beta 5/3 = BFP, 87 Beta #2 5/7 560.9 Beta #3 5/9 1376.5 First u/s One Baby, 125bpm!
    Second u/s, 176bmp! Kicked over to the OB by the RE at 8w. Team Green!! 
    Baby girl J arrived two weeks early! Born into water, med-free. Hooray for Team Pink!

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  • Ugh I'm so sorry that you even have to deal with these types of individuals. I definitely agree that no response is the best response in this case. She's a complete idiot who doesn't even deserve the five minutes it would take you to write an email saying she's an idiot. HA!
    As for your husband I definitely think you guys should see a neutral party like a counselor to help you with this. It just seems like there is a lot of anger and rightfully so. You want to do what is best for you and dh which is ultimately best for LO. Work through it. I know it's much easier said than done. But I've had some family drama on my in laws side and I just know how important it is to work through it and do what's best for your relationship. Because our LOs won't be little forever and they will eventually be able to sense anger tension and stress between parents. I'm sorry you have to deal with this at all. But best of luck in how you handle it with dh. My guess is similar to a PP that he got roped into the visit without his knowledge (eg the aunt showed up unexpectedly) although I still understand your hurt. Sorry again luv....
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  • Ugh! I'm so sorry this happened. I think the big factor for me is that you have to be able to trust your husband and he definitely broke your trust in this situation. I would definitely show him the email and see what he says. I also agree with others that if you email her she will pass it around the family - seems like the type of person she is. You have a right to be angry and to call your husband out on it and I wouldn't allow him to go on visits by himself either. You need to do what's best for you and your LO. I would give couples counseling a try only because his mom seems like a troublemaker and I would do everything possible not to feed into her nastiness and fight to keep your family together.

    Me 38 MH 41 - TTC since June 2010 - dx with Severe MFI. Straight to IVF with ICSI. IVF #1 - ER 06/13/12 - 9 Eggs Retrieved - 4 ICSI'd - only 2 fert. 06/15/12 - 2DT - 3 cell & 6 cell with fragmentation. Beta 06/29/12 - IVF #1 = BFN. 07/20/12 - WTF Appt -Told by our RE to quit IVF. Second Opinion from RE is good. IVF#2 - November 2012. Estradiol Pills Started 11/6. Stims start 11/16. ER 11/26 - 7 eggs retrieved - all mature. 4 fertilized with ICSI. ET 11/29 Transferred 3 embryos. Beta is 12/10. 1st Beta 81 2nd Beta 160 and 3rd beta 360!!! First U/S 12/21/12 - We saw one beautiful gest. sac. 2nd U/S is 01/04/2013 - H/B 183 02/05/13 - NT Scan - everything looks good and IT'S A BOY!  Aiden was born 08/20/2013.

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  • We have been to therapy and the same thing happens they tell him he needs to stick up for me and tell his family to cut the crap. He never does then I just get furious.
    6 m/c
    Anovulatory cycles, increased Synthroid Diagnosed Sep 2010
    Natural cycle Dec 2010 BFP M/C 6 1/2 Weeks, D&E Jan 2011
    1 Clomid/Ovidrel BFN May 2011
    Natural cycle Aug 2011 BFP M/C 4 Weeks
    1 IUI Sept 2011 BFP M/c 7 weeks
    Provera Dec 2011 BFP M/C 3 Weeks
    DQ ALPHA HLA MATCH, High NK Cells Diagnosed Dec 2011
    IVF March 2012 BFP m/c 4weeks 5 days (IL, Prednisone)
    IVF#2w/DS July 2012 MEGA FAILURE BFN (IL, Dexamethasone)
    Diagnosed No real HLA Match, DQ Beta Triad, High TNF, Low NK Cells
    Oct 2012 Natural Cycle m/c 4wks (Lovenox, Prednisone) 
    Went to Beer Center- high tnf, low lad, implantation failure
    Nov/Dec 2012 LIT Treatment
    Dec 12 Humira
    Jan 2013 BFP
    Humira,LIT,Prednisone, Lovenox, IVIG, Baby Aspirin
    Miracle Born August 2013 Premature

    Yours doesn't have to be a sad story



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  • luvboston said:
    We have been to therapy and the same thing happens they tell him he needs to stick up for me and tell his family to cut the crap. He never does then I just get furious.
    This sounds like our relationship. My husband gets guilted every conversation by his mental parents and can't see it. Yet everyone else can

    Married: 5/09 ~ TTC Since: 10/10 ~ PCOS ~ Progesterone from 10/10 - 2/11 ~ HSG on 3/18 - Clear ~ Started Metformin 1000mg & Clomid 50mg 2/11 ~ Metformin upped to 1500mg 4/6 ~ 6/7 Now going to SG and put on Clomid, Ovidrel, Gonal F, Prometrium, Estrace ~ IUI #1 7/2 = BFP!!!!!! March 6th our little man was born. 

    6/17/13 - Ovidrel, Follistim, Prometrium ~ IUI #1 7/2 = BFP! March 17th our St. Pattys day baby arrived

    10/29/17 - Started process for IVF, got pregnant & miscarried a 2nd time since summer. 2/22 started stims - Menopur, Gonal F, Cetrotide - retrieval 3/6 - , PIO, estrace 3xday - FET 4/18 = Beta 1: 616; Beta 2: 1342 = BFP 

  • Oh Luv... I'm so sorry you are dealing with this.  I also agree that you shouldn't email her directly.  I would confront DH with this.  But maybe give him the benefit of the doubt that maybe Aunty Voldemort just happened to show up.  I will say that he seriously needs to "grow a pair" and stick up for you.  You and your little one are his family now.  You should be his top priority.  Sending you hugs!

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    Diagnose me. DOR, DH perfect
    IUI # 1 6/2010, BFN
    IUI # 2 8/2010, BFN
    IVF # 1 10/2010 Canceled poor response
    IVF 1.2 12/2010 BFP! mc 6 weeks 2 days
    Mental health break for 10 months
    IVF # 2 10/2011 BFN
    IVF # 3 5/2012 BFP! 10 eggs retrieved (best ever)
    7 fertilized transferred 3
    Beta #1 14dpo - 72, Beta #2 17dpo 145 Beta 3 20dpo 521
    First u/s June 15 saw HB 126 bpm missed m/c 7/5/12 10 weeks D&C 7/6/12
    IVF#4 ER 9/30 ET 10/3 Beta 10/16 BFFN. IVF #5 final with o/e. ER 1/21 only 1 retrieved, hoping my lonestar is the one. Beta #1 2/6/13 = 209.... please let this be it! Keep growing lonestar! Beta #2 2/8/13 - 586! , Beta #3 2/10/13 = 1898. First u/s perfect little heart beat at 116 bpm. Measure 6 weeks 1 day. EDD 10/14/13
    3/4/13 measuring right on track beautiful heartbeat 171 bpm, graduated from RE to OB... bittersweet.
    PAIF/SAIF always welcome! Its a girl! 

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    both measuring right on track....2nd u/s... all is well... both beans measuring right on track... released from RE... first
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  • I'm sorry you are dealing with this. I would just forward him (hubby) the email and see what he says. From very early in marriage hubs and I have a rule- he handles his family and I handle mine. I refuse to deal with his psycho family.
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