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**Children (not mine) mentioned**

This happened several months ago, but it is sticking with me, and I realize I now have a good place to share it (thanks ya'll):

My SIL already has a 3 year old son, and she was in delivery for her second child.  When my BIL came out to announce the gender (girl) my MIL exclaimed: "Now you have the perfect family!!!"

I went from being overjoyed to being crushed, and had to walk away for a moment to shed a couple tears and compose myself.  It just slapped me in the face and I thought "right, because my family is imperfect".  

I realize this may be slightly reaching, and I of course know there was nothing wrong with what she said, but sometimes you can't help the triggers for these emotions.  

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  • I totally understand. This is a great place to vent and have people actually understand how you feel without judgment.  I just had my pastor announce the other day to the whole church how much he loved all the children in the church and that families just weren't complete without children... I barely kept it together..
    Married: 12/15/2012    TTC: 08/2014
    Husband: 26 SA: normal
    Me: 23 Low AMH and damaged ovaries due to chemotherapy.
    No AF or O in 3 years. HSG showed a slight T shaped uterus.

    High Risk OB 9/29- got the ok to get pregnant.
    RE Appt:  10/28/ U/S showed follicles, but also small damaged ovaries.
    B/W results CD0: all normal except low AMH at 1.3
    Cycle 1-November (TI)- Femera 2.5mg, 2mg Estradoil, and Trigger=BFN
    Cycle 2-December (TI)- Femera 2.5 mg ,4mg Estradoil, and Trigger= No O
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  • Definitely a sucker punch with that comment. I'm sorry :(
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    edited October 2014
  • I can understand why you felt upset. It's started to bother me when people say "starting a family" to mean having children for that reason. I don't want to feel like DH and I aren't a family unless we can reproduce. I'm sure that a comment like that, on top of the new birth that just happened, would have triggered IF related hurt/sadness in me too.

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    TTC #1 Since July 2013

    Started RE Testing July 2014

    2 HSG tests: Right tube is blocked, possible endo.

    TSH elevated, started Synthroid 25 mg daily.

    October, 2014: Femara 5 mg + TI ---> 3 follies on blocked tube side ---> BFN

    November, 2014: Femara + Ovidrel + IUI#1--2 follies (on the good side), 46 mil. motile sperm=BFN

    Nov-Dec 2014: Femara + Ovidrel + IUI #2 (1 follie, 76 mil. motile sperm) + Endometrin=BFN

    January, 2014: Femara + Ovidrel + IUI #3 (1 follie, 38 mil. motile sperm)=???

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  • Sorry your mom said that, it was not thoughtful. I would totally have been hurt/offended as well. Calling a mom, dad, son, and daughter a "perfect" family is offensive in so many ways if you think about what that's saying...it's like a constricting, judgy idea straight out of the 50s. :(

    I will share a sucky mom comment story to show that you're not alone! :D It's a very obvious secret in my family that my mom prefers my sister over me, always has - so it's funny to us when these things happen, but still. Called her up the other day, and hear in an excited squeaky sing-song voice, "Siiiiiister's Name!!" "Hi Mom, it's me." "Oh, hi BunnyBerry." Long, long pause. "Buunny Berry!!!" in a really fake voice. 

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    Then a couple days ago, we were chatting about how some American expatriate families we knew actually left China because their little ones were becoming incredibly vain due to the constant admiration of their looks by the local people. Mom says, "You know, not all LOs let that kind of thing go to their head. When you were little," ...wait for it... "Your sister got admiration all the time for being so cute, remember? And it never went to her head." (To clarify, according to the memory of everyone else in the family, I was also a looker as a todder, thank you.)

    @bandm14 I agree, I think it's so sad to think TCC is "starting a family," unless you are a single person and see it that way yourself? So all those childless couples aren't families, and the rest aren't actually a family until one is pregnant or there's a LO? Hate that.
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  • @BunnyBerry

    I'm glad you can laugh at those moments, sheesh!


    what an insensitive thing to say!  it reminds me of that announcement the Pope made a few months ago - something about how couple who don't have children are going to gorw old lonely and bitter.  I forget the exact words but I remember being outraged
  • So sorry, parents can be so awful sometimes (either intentionally or unintentionally).  Luckily DH isn't close to his parents (at least no emotionally, long story) so we only have mine to deal with when it comes to hints/questions about family planning.
    Me: 31 (PCOS) possible right tube issues DH: 36 (SA normal) 
    Started dating in 2006, Married 2012 
    TTC since November 2013 
    First RE visit due to irregular periods: June 2014
    Lap/Hysto to remove polyps, cyst and tube blockage 11/6
    Cycle 1 (Dec. 2014) TI with Clomid, Trigger, & Progesterone CX due to no response
    Impatiently Waiting CD1 to try again with Fermara Back on the bench due to giant cyst,
    who know I'd ovulate on my own after a cancelled cycle and end up with a mega cyst :(
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  • same here @shafwilson .  My DH isn't close to his dad or brothers so its just my parents really that we even talk to and they do know about our IF.  My DH aunt (which is like his mom, since his mom died when he was young) is soo condescending about children at all  She tells us all the time how we are not ready for children and how they totally change your life... If she only knew what we were going through to have a baby she would freak!
    Married: 12/15/2012    TTC: 08/2014
    Husband: 26 SA: normal
    Me: 23 Low AMH and damaged ovaries due to chemotherapy.
    No AF or O in 3 years. HSG showed a slight T shaped uterus.

    High Risk OB 9/29- got the ok to get pregnant.
    RE Appt:  10/28/ U/S showed follicles, but also small damaged ovaries.
    B/W results CD0: all normal except low AMH at 1.3
    Cycle 1-November (TI)- Femera 2.5mg, 2mg Estradoil, and Trigger=BFN
    Cycle 2-December (TI)- Femera 2.5 mg ,4mg Estradoil, and Trigger= No O
    Cycle 3-January (TI)- Femera 5 mg, 2mg Estra
    doil, and Trigger=


  • @BlueFairy5 yes that is soo true!!! I have heard so much crap from so many people mostly my doctors( not RE or OBGYN just my other 15 doctors haha) about how young I am and how I am rushing things. And after all that I have been through am I really ready for a baby. It's crazy that a doctor that I see for 10 minutes every 3-6 months knows more about me than I do (sarcasm). In my opinion its between me and DH and everyone else needs to shut up! Sorry.. Def not aimed towards you.. Just all the baby haters out there!
    Married: 12/15/2012    TTC: 08/2014
    Husband: 26 SA: normal
    Me: 23 Low AMH and damaged ovaries due to chemotherapy.
    No AF or O in 3 years. HSG showed a slight T shaped uterus.

    High Risk OB 9/29- got the ok to get pregnant.
    RE Appt:  10/28/ U/S showed follicles, but also small damaged ovaries.
    B/W results CD0: all normal except low AMH at 1.3
    Cycle 1-November (TI)- Femera 2.5mg, 2mg Estradoil, and Trigger=BFN
    Cycle 2-December (TI)- Femera 2.5 mg ,4mg Estradoil, and Trigger= No O
    Cycle 3-January (TI)- Femera 5 mg, 2mg Estra
    doil, and Trigger=


  • Ouch. Don't be sorry for feeling that way. That would've been a big ol' punch to the gut for me too. :(

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    January 2014 - 2nd Cycle of Clomid - Positive OPK. BFN
    February 2014 - 3rd Cycle of Clomid - Positive OPK. BFN
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    June 2014 - 2nd round of Femara. Moved to RE to have CD10 Follicular U/S. No Follies in left ovary. 5 follies in right. Largest follie 8mm, 1 7mm, 2 3mm, 1 2mm. Positive OPK on day of U/S. BFN. DH has SA done at this time - All results within normal limits.
    July 2014 - 3rd round of Femara. CD10 Follicular U/S. No follies in left ovary. 7 follies in right. 1 20mm, 1 12mm, 1 10mm, 4 <5mm. Scheduled for IUI. Canceled due to low estrogen level of 145. TI this month. Prepping for Injectables next month. BFN.
    August 2014 - CD3 BW Normal. Injectables not happening because of stupid miscommunication about "required injectables class." Taking class this month. No medication. TI for the month. SIS scheduled for 8/7/14. SIS results - "I have a beautiful uterus." Huzzah!
    September 2014 - Cycle cancelled due to stupid AF coming early and making my IUI run in to DH's business trip. Try again next month.
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  • That's just a really stupid thing to say all around.  Of course your family is perfect as well, and who's to say that your sister's family wasn't perfect before they had a girl?  What if they had 2 boys? That wouldn't have been perfect? People really need to stop and think before they blurt stuff out.  Who came up with the idea that one boy and one girl = the perfect family?  It's bizarre to me. Hugs to you, @Ann612, sometimes you just need to feel your feelings.
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