**** Monday Crazy Train *****

PinkCamino

This is a thread posted daily for any of us who need to get out our frustrations about waiting to O, the 2WW, or vent about our cycles. If you find yourself checking FF obsessively, MF is getting the best of you, or you just want to pee on all things, let it out here!

In order for the conductors to be better able to help you, please make sure you either have a FF chart link in your sig, or make sure you post a link. Don't chart? You should consider it, not only will it give you a lot more insight to your cycles, but conductors will be able to answer a lot of your questions just by looking at your chart! To learn more about charting, check out the charting course that FF offers:https://www.fertilityfriend.com/courses/

The CT is not the place to post a BFP. If you have a "squinter" or if you have a line that appeared after the time frame, please do not post about it here. Take a step back from the board, test again with FMU, and good luck!

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Crazy level from 1-10:

CD/DPO:

Can I just ______ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms:

Explain your Crazy here:

Menrandes

@PinkCamino‌ thanks for the ride! I hope your Monday is treating you well so far..

Crazy level from 1-10: 10

CD/DPO: 27/11

Can I just know already?

Signs/Symptoms: sleeplessness, emotional, vivid dreams when I do sleep

Explain your Crazy here: the hope is pretty high right now. And when I catch myself looking at my chart with a bit of giddiness, I think how it will feel when AF starts, and then I spiral back down into sadness. I'm trying to dial it back some and not think about it so much, but that's unlikely. Negative test yesterday. I just can't take getting another negative right now, so I'm trying to wait until 14 dpo. It's difficult though seeing how many people get positives on FF at like 9dpo. I know that's not the norm at all, but it feels like it is! I have an initial RE appointment next week that'd I'd really like to have no need for, you know? And if this is the cycle, I would have conceived right around my first loss date anniversary. And typing that out just made me start crying!! Yep, feeling pretty crazy over here.

Edit: added anniversary after first loss date.

PinkCamino

Menrandes said:

@PinkCamino‌ thanks for the ride! I hope your Monday is treating you well so far..

Crazy level from 1-10: 10

CD/DPO: 27/11

Can I just know already?

Signs/Symptoms: sleeplessness, emotional, vivid dreams when I do sleep

Explain your Crazy here: the hope is pretty high right now. And when I catch myself looking at my chart with a bit of giddiness, I think how it will feel when AF starts, and then I spiral back down into sadness. I'm trying to dial it back some and not think about it so much, but that's unlikely. Negative test yesterday. I just can't take getting another negative right now, so I'm trying to wait until 14 dpo. It's difficult though seeing how many people get positives on FF at like 9dpo. I know that's not the norm at all, but it feels like it is! I have an initial RE appointment next week that'd I'd really like to have no need for, you know? And if this is the cycle, I would have conceived right around my first loss date. And typing that out just made me start crying!! Yep, feeling pretty crazy over here.

Hope can be a bitch because one minute we are excited by the possibilities and the next we are crushed. FX you get an answer one way or another soon. (((((Hugs)))))

SeaParrot

I'm just going to post a screenshot because I stupidly made my FF account with my last name and I don't want to post that....

Current crazy level is around a 9. Trying to figure out if I O'd already. I can count on one hand the number of times I've ovulated before CD20, but you never know with PCOS. My cycles can be all over the place and while I usually don't ovulate, I also don't show any signs of ovulation in anovulatory cycles. This is a post-loss cycle and as much as I hate that I have enough experience to know this, I ovulate earlier in a post-CP cycle.

So having EVERYTHING point to ovulation except the most important thing - BBT - is driving me NUTS! My CM was super fertile and has since dried up almost completely. I feel like I must have O'd, but my temp is still low. I do have temp drops at O, but I've never had one last three days.

Is this just a delayed rise? Help me figure out what's going on!

MrsPhD83

Crazy level from 1-10: 5

CD/DPO:  CD21/4DPO

Can I just ______ already?!: back away from my chart

Explain your Crazy here: Hiya PC! Thanks for conducting today. I told myself that I wouldn't be here until later this week. I (almost) never punch a ticket this early but this cycle is becoming a total mindfuck! My post-O temps are much lower than normal, which has me thinking things like:

a) maybe we should get the heavier blankets out

b) maybe we shouldn't leave the window open so much with the overnight lows being in the 40's

c) maybe something is wrong (e.g., progesterone deficiency)

d) maybe i'm bat shit crazy!

I'm going with D for now. I had to discard my temp from this morning because I took it about an hour too early and our room was freezing to due A & B (see above). But even if I adjusted it due to time, it would still only be up next to the previous 2 temps. My temps from the previous cycle (a CP) were so much higher. UGH! I feel out already. And I'm annoyed and feeling freaking crazy town today. Part of me wants to stop temping so that I can stop over-analyzing. But then the researcher part of me is like "noooo don't stop temping. you'll want this data in the future." 8-}

BethKate2

@SeaParrot, why do you have open circles for the last two temps?

Looking at your chart, I'd say you haven't ovulated yet, unless there's some reason why those two temps were a lot lower (taken a lot earlier than usual or something). Your body might've geared up to O and then didn't. I think you're just going to have to wait to see what your temps do over the next few days, unfortunately.

meredithcarole

Well, I'm going to more or less repeat @Menrandes‌'s Crazy Train explaination verbatim. I am right there with you, girl. FX for you!

Crazy level from 1-10: 9, like I need to calm the fuck down

CD/DPO: 30/11dpo (the only time I have ever had a 30 day cycle was my first cycle post mc - otherwise the longest has been 28 and the past 3 months it has been 26 or 27)

Can I just ______ already?!: know already? I am driving myself insane.

Signs/Symptoms: Frequent urination (happens sometimes because of the fibroids anyway), sore boobs on and off for the past 4 days (not a normal PMS symptom for me, but it did happen last month), those weird bump things on my nipples got bigger suddenly, weird "cramps," slight nausea (could be from working myself up), and sleeplessness (see previous rational explanation). My back is also sore, but that started well before any PMS symptoms would have - I have two compressed lumbar disks - so I am chocking that one upto weed pulling last weekend that agrivated everything.

Explain your Crazy here: I O'd late (cd19 - which would be late on a 27ish day cycle). This is only my second month of charting so I have no idea if that is something that happens sometimes or not with me, but I thought from that moment this cycle was a bust because a (potentially) 7 to 8 day LP does not allow for much to happen. What never happens (save that one time right after my mc) is a 30 day cycle so that possibility never crossed my mind. On cd28 my temp fell a little and I had one episode of red spotting mid-afternoon. I though "yep, here she is" and I put on a pantyliner and took my sulky self to work. I spend the rest of the day obsessively checking for blood and there was nothing. So I said, okay you'll know cd29 - your temp will either rise or fall. I slept horribly (I really don't know if I got 3 hours of sleep) and was up 2 times in the middle of the night. My temp was basically static when I took it. So, I waited all day for spotting or something and right before bed, there is was - brown spotting. I was disappointed, but I told myself I really didn't think this cycle was going to work anyway. Then this morning my temp went back up and there is again no sign of any spotting. I took a test and got a BFN. It may be too early (11dpo) or it may be a seriously cruel joke from Mother Nature. I have an RE appt. on the 3rd (I would love to skip that) and the 7th of this month was my edd. This month is very emotionally charged and I just want to have an answer. *end long winded rant*

@SeaParrot‌ you definitely haven't O'd prior to today, though depending on the next couple of days today could be it. Keep on keeping on until you get your CHs. Sorry your body isn't playing nice.

ETA: I can't spell.

SeaParrot

@BethKate2‌ @mlal78‌ Today's was off about 15 minutes, which is why it is an open circle. Yesterday, I have no idea. I took it at exactly 6:30.

I'm using mobile.

It was much cooler in the house yesterday and today in the mornings. We haven't turned on the heat yet so it's about 12°C inside when we get up. I don't know that that would account for my temp being 0.5°C lower than it should be if I O'd.

@meredithcarole‌ I'm used to my body being a jerk. Sort of goes with the territory with PCOS.

meredithcarole

@LDubHawksFan‌ 12 days.

Menrandes

@SeaParrot FX for a clear shift soon!!

@meredithcarole Hopefully we can both manage to calm down and just relax!  Ha!  Your chart is looking pretty good though!

@kcrkcs *hugs*  I hope you will find out one way or another what your body is doing!

@readinglove FX that AF at the very least holds off for you! 

BookishMomma

Crazy level from 1-10: 8

CD/DPO: 21/7

Can I just ______ already?!: *think about something else*

Signs/Symptoms: lots of ambiguous symptoms that I chalk up to the progesterone supps I'm taking

Explain your Crazy here: I am forcing myself aboard the crazy train today because I POASed at 7 freaking DPO. Of course it was a BFN and I should know better. I guess I got a little too excited about being in my first 2ww since March. It's gonna be a long week.

eta: crazy level

PinkCamino

SeaParrot said:

I'm just going to post a screenshot because I stupidly made my FF account with my last name and I don't want to post that....

Current crazy level is around a 9. Trying to figure out if I O'd already. I can count on one hand the number of times I've ovulated before CD20, but you never know with PCOS. My cycles can be all over the place and while I usually don't ovulate, I also don't show any signs of ovulation in anovulatory cycles. This is a post-loss cycle and as much as I hate that I have enough experience to know this, I ovulate earlier in a post-CP cycle.

So having EVERYTHING point to ovulation except the most important thing - BBT - is driving me NUTS! My CM was super fertile and has since dried up almost completely. I feel like I must have O'd, but my temp is still low. I do have temp drops at O, but I've never had one last three days.

Is this just a delayed rise? Help me figure out what's going on!

The other ladies have given you great advice! FX you get a clear temp shift soon!

PinkCamino

MrsPhD83 said:

Crazy level from 1-10: 5

CD/DPO:  CD21/4DPO

Can I just ______ already?!: back away from my chart

Explain your Crazy here: Hiya PC! Thanks for conducting today. I told myself that I wouldn't be here until later this week. I (almost) never punch a ticket this early but this cycle is becoming a total mindfuck! My post-O temps are much lower than normal, which has me thinking things like:

a) maybe we should get the heavier blankets out

b) maybe we shouldn't leave the window open so much with the overnight lows being in the 40's

c) maybe something is wrong (e.g., progesterone deficiency)

d) maybe i'm bat shit crazy!

I'm going with D for now. I had to discard my temp from this morning because I took it about an hour too early and our room was freezing to due A & B (see above). But even if I adjusted it due to time, it would still only be up next to the previous 2 temps. My temps from the previous cycle (a CP) were so much higher. UGH! I feel out already. And I'm annoyed and feeling freaking crazy town today. Part of me wants to stop temping so that I can stop over-analyzing. But then the researcher part of me is like "noooo don't stop temping. you'll want this data in the future." 8-}

I'm having the exact same problem as you and like you I'm worrying about all the same things. I'm actually thinking by BBT is on the fritz. FX for a nice tempshift soon!

PinkCamino

readinglove said:

Good morning ladies. Thanks @PinkCamino for being the conductor today! 

@menrandes Being in limbo sucks. I hope you get an answer one way or the other soon.

This cycle has been a hot mess. I ordered a new thermometer (making the switch to the Mabis - yay!) that should arrive tomorrow. 

CD/DPO: 25/10

Can I just ______ already?!: Calm down? Not be crazy? Have a magic 8 ball that will tell me things? I don't even know. 

Signs/Symptoms: I'm trying to not pay attention too much to "symptoms" - it's still so early, and my period brings the same damn symptoms as my pregnancy did. I've been exhausted the past few days (example: slept until 10:30 Saturday, took an hour+ nap, and was still ready for bed/falling asleep by 10:00 that night), but that's the only "notable" thing happening.

Explain your Crazy here: My temps have been freaking bananas this cycle. Stupid thermometer. This morning, they dove below my coverline. I'm trying to not panic/stress, but my worst-case scenario brain thinks about how my LP has been decreasing with each cycle, and I am hoping and praying AF doesn't come today - that would give this cycle a 9 day LP. As much as we would love a BFP this round (who wouldn't???), I'm at the point where I don't care if AF starts, just let it NOT be today. I'm not even considering POAS until Thursday at the earliest, provided AF doesn't show up before then. Hoping and praying that she waits until at least tomorrow. /endramble

FX for you! The waiting is so so hard!

PinkCamino

meredithcarole said:

Well, I'm going to more or less repeat @Menrandes‌'s Crazy Train explaination verbatim. I am right there with you, girl. FX for you!

Crazy level from 1-10: 9, like I need to calm the fuck down

CD/DPO: 30/11dpo (the only time I have ever had a 30 day cycle was my first cycle post mc - otherwise the longest has been 28 and the past 3 months it has been 26 or 27)

Can I just ______ already?!: know already? I am driving myself insane.

Signs/Symptoms: Frequent urination (happens sometimes because of the fibroids anyway), sore boobs on and off for the past 4 days (not a normal PMS symptom for me, but it did happen last month), those weird bump things on my nipples got bigger suddenly, weird "cramps," slight nausea (could be from working myself up), and sleeplessness (see previous rational explanation). My back is also sore, but that started well before any PMS symptoms would have - I have two compressed lumbar disks - so I am chocking that one upto weed pulling last weekend that agrivated everything.

Explain your Crazy here: I O'd late (cd19 - which would be late on a 27ish day cycle). This is only my second month of charting so I have no idea if that is something that happens sometimes or not with me, but I thought from that moment this cycle was a bust because a (potentially) 7 to 8 day LP does not allow for much to happen. What never happens (save that one time right after my mc) is a 30 day cycle so that possibility never crossed my mind. On cd28 my temp fell a little and I had one episode of red spotting mid-afternoon. I though "yep, here she is" and I put on a pantyliner and took my sulky self to work. I spend the rest of the day obsessively checking for blood and there was nothing. So I said, okay you'll know cd29 - your temp will either rise or fall. I slept horribly (I really don't know if I got 3 hours of sleep) and was up 2 times in the middle of the night. My temp was basically static when I took it. So, I waited all day for spotting or something and right before bed, there is was - brown spotting. I was disappointed, but I told myself I really didn't think this cycle was going to work anyway. Then this morning my temp went back up and there is again no sign of any spotting. I took a test and got a BFN. It may be too early (11dpo) or it may be a seriously cruel joke from Mother Nature. I have an RE appt. on the 3rd (I would love to skip that) and the 7th of this month was my edd. This month is very emotionally charged and I just want to have an answer. *end long winded rant*

@SeaParrot‌ you definitely haven't O'd prior to today, though depending on the next couple of days today could be it. Keep on keeping on until you get your CHs. Sorry your body isn't playing nice.

ETA: I can't spell.

FX for answers one way or another soon! FX FX FX

MrsPhD83

PinkCamino said:

I'm having the exact same problem as you and like you I'm worrying about all the same things. I'm actually thinking by BBT is on the fritz. FX for a nice tempshift soon!

I just chart-stalked you and see what you mean. If I leave my temp from this morning, FF takes my CHs away. Ugh! It's so annoying!!! But now you've got me thinking that I should add "E) Maybe I need a new BBT" to my list.   FX for a tempshift (or I guess a more consistent temp rise) for you too!

PinkCamino

MrsPhD83 said:

PinkCamino said:

I'm having the exact same problem as you and like you I'm worrying about all the same things. I'm actually thinking by BBT is on the fritz. FX for a nice tempshift soon!

I just chart-stalked you and see what you mean. If I leave my temp from this morning, FF takes my CHs away. Ugh! It's so annoying!!! But now you've got me thinking that I should add "E) Maybe I need a new BBT" to my list.   FX for a tempshift (or I guess a more consistent temp rise) for you too!

Thank you. Confession: I had my DH take his BBT this morning to confirm my suspicious his temp was almost identical to mine. I'm not sure what's going on with either of us. let's just sit back and let whatever happens happens okay? We can't change the outcome at this point.

MrsPhD83

PinkCamino said:

MrsPhD83 said:

PinkCamino said:

I'm having the exact same problem as you and like you I'm worrying about all the same things. I'm actually thinking by BBT is on the fritz. FX for a nice tempshift soon!

I just chart-stalked you and see what you mean. If I leave my temp from this morning, FF takes my CHs away. Ugh! It's so annoying!!! But now you've got me thinking that I should add "E) Maybe I need a new BBT" to my list.   FX for a tempshift (or I guess a more consistent temp rise) for you too!

Thank you. Confession: I had my DH take his BBT this morning to confirm my suspicious his temp was almost identical to mine. I'm not sure what's going on with either of us. let's just sit back and let whatever happens happens okay? We can't change the outcome at this point.

Le sigh. You're right. PinkCamino: the voice of reason! I see some yoga in my future. Gotta relax

uromys

@seaparrot Hopefully you will see a clear shift soon!!

@meredithcarole Hugs. You're chart does look good though. FX

@kcrkcs  Hope you find out soon. Hugs my lady.

MrsPhD83 Sounds about why I am dropping in.

readinglove Hopefully AF holds off for you.

BookishMomma The excitement is understandable! FX lady!

Crazy level from 1-10: I'll give myself a 6 for now.

CD/DPO: CD15/DPO-hopefully 1

Can I just ______ already?!: Go back and re-temp this weekend.

Signs/Symptoms: Nothing, but I don't expect anything at this point.

Explain your Crazy here:  So this weekends temps are all over the place. Last Thursday I forgot, and started feeling a cold coming on. Friday morning I woke up sick. Boom! Higher temp. Saturday I woke up sleep deprived, drunk, and sick. Only thing I could think about was maybe puking again, and kicking myself for drinking a box of wine. Sunday. Temped late, but I slept great! Then this morning I was hoping to see a clear shift in temps. Nope! Maybe it's because I froze my butt off all night with only one blanket (thank you GAIN for the allergic reaction and forcing me to rewash EVERYTHING). Maybe it could be that DH loves to sleep with the window open when the weather gets colder. Maybe my very positive OPKs on Saturday were a fluke. All signs pointed to yes. Including the increased libido (you're welcome DH)! Either way I was pretty certain I ovulated this weekend and I blew it tracking my temps. Kicking myself now so I guess ill take a ride and wait for my crosshairs.

Edit: I ment certain. Not curtained! Damn spell check.

PinkCamino

uromys said:

@seaparrot Hopefully you will see a clear shift soon!!

@meredithcarole Hugs. You're chart does look good though. FX

@kcrkcs  Hope you find out soon. Hugs my lady.

MrsPhD83 Sounds about why I am dropping in.

readinglove Hopefully AF holds off for you.

BookishMomma The excitement is understandable! FX lady!

Crazy level from 1-10: I'll give myself a 6 for now.

CD/DPO: CD15/DPO-hopefully 1

Can I just ______ already?!: Go back and re-temp this weekend.

Signs/Symptoms: Nothing, but I don't expect anything at this point.

Explain your Crazy here:  So this weekends temps are all over the place. Last Thursday I forgot, and started feeling a cold coming on. Friday morning I woke up sick. Boom! Higher temp. Saturday I woke up sleep deprived, drunk, and sick. Only thing I could think about was maybe puking again, and kicking myself for drinking a box of wine. Sunday. Temped late, but I slept great! Then this morning I was hoping to see a clear shift in temps. Nope! Maybe it's because I froze my butt off all night with only one blanket (thank you GAIN for the allergic reaction and forcing me to rewash EVERYTHING). Maybe it could be that DH loves to sleep with the window open when the weather gets colder. Maybe my very positive OPKs on Saturday were a fluke. All signs pointed to yes. Including the increased libido (you're welcome DH)! Either way I was pretty curtained I ovulated this weekend and I blew it tracking my temps. Kicking myself now so I guess ill take a ride and wait for my crosshairs.

What kind on timing do you have? I'm mobile and can't see your chart.

uromys

@pinkcamino timing on O has been around CD13-CD15. Today's OPK was very negative, and my temp was still higher then normal. But I've also been battling a cold the past weekend. I'm just frustrated that I got lackadaisical with my temping and managed to catch a cold the week of possible ovulation. The combination making this cycles temps not as clear and I would like. I fully plan on DTD until those damn crosshairs make their appearance.

jjbmstinco

I just wanted to offer ((hugs)) to everyone.

I am riding the crazy training with you all.  I hope no one looks at my google.  *hangs head in shame*

meredithcarole

@jjbmstinco‌ no judgement here. ((Hugs)) back to you.