Secondary IF

Comments on family size

MoFreeMoFree member
edited October 2014 in Secondary IF
How do you handle comments about having a single child? I don't make remarks about the ecological irresponsibility of having 4+ children because that would be 'wrong,' but why is it okay to comment on the size of my family?

A relative of my SMIL commented how LO 'needs' a younger sibling, as if it's her business. I don't care for this woman and didn't care to share our IF history, so I just smiled and seethed inside. I kept thinking that I should have said something without sharing medical history or getting angry and emotional.
TTC since 3-08 IVF # 1 Dec 2011 BFP DD born at 31 weeks 6-24-12

FET #1 Dec 2013 BFN

FET # 2 Feb 2014 BFN

No more frosties

IVF #2. September 2014

PGD yielded 2 perfect 5d blasts

SET November 9, 2014
Nov 23, 2014. Another BFN

Not sure where to go from here.

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Re: Comments on family size

  • Ughhh, I haaaate when people do the "she NEEDS a sibling!" thing.  HATE IT.  No, she does not NEED a sibling.  We do not NEED another child.  We would like to have another baby because, well, we love eachother, and our daughter, of couse, and we'd like to expand on that, even if just once more.
    It took me a while to get ready for TTC #2 because of this.  I wanted to wait until I was fully adjusted to our new life with a child, and wanted to be 100% absolutely sure I wanted more kids.  Unfortunately, when we were ready, it didn't happen overnight.
    Last summer, a random mom at ballet asked me if my DD had a sibling, to which I politely said "No".  This conversation should have ended there, but she went on to ask if we WANTED more (I think this is sort of a rude question for ANYONE, especially a stranger, TTC or not).  I didn't want to let her in on our business, so I lied and said "We're not sure yet."  She THEN went on and said something about having only one kid, and I snapped (although politely) and said something along the lines of "We're not ones to pop out kids for the hell of it".
    I do have a neighborhood party coming up in a few weeks, and I'll have to think of some good comebacks, as there are a lot of old ladies with 6 kids who will ask about that.  They did last year and I sort of brushed it off, but this time, I'm going prepared! ;)
    - DD born July 2010 -
    - TTC #2 since January 2013 -
    - Clomid cycles February - May 2014, all BFN -
    - HSG July 2014, all clear! -
    - July '14: IUI #1, w/Femara & Ovidrel= BFN -
    - August '14: cycle cancelled -
    - October '14: IUI #2 w/Femara, Bravelle, & Ovidrel : BFP!-
    -November '14:  Discovered MMC @ 6 wk. ultrasound-
    -February '15: IUI #3 w/Femara, Bravelle, & Ovidrel: Success!-
    -Due November 2015-
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  • A few months ago, the teachers at my daughter's school decided to ask.  

    "When is Bumble going to have a sibling?  You know, every other kid in her class has one except her!"  WTF?

    I told them we've been trying, but for some reason we keep losing them.  The look on her face, eyes went huge. 

    Sorry, tired of the questions.

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    BFP April 2013 - Missed M/C July 2013 @ 12w6d
    BFP December 2013 - CP @ 4w3d
    Eight medicated cycles, three IUIs: FAIL
    IVF #1 Antagonist - January 2015: CP/FAIL

    IVF #2 April 2015: Microdose lupron Flare
    ICSI, CCS Freeze all
    6 blasts biopsied/5 normal

    FET #1 June 25, 2015 6AA and 5AA blast transfer
    BFP 3dp5dt!
    Beta 8dp5dt 195.2, 10dp5dt 474.8, 12dp5dt 977, 22dp5dt 25,580
    <3 Twins! Our boy and girl coming end of February!  <3

  • I get questions about a sibling for DD all the time (at work; my friends and family know better).  It is bizarre that people don't anticipate that the answer to such a personal question might be something they don't really need to know or want to hear, but go figure. 

    I usually just say that we do want another child but will see what happens and leave it at that.  I recently had a conversation with one of the more persistent ones where secondary infertility came up, though, and even though we just talking in general terms, I think she put it together.  She's backed off, at any rate.
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    Me: 41, DH: 45
    DD, 6/15/2013
    TTC #2 beginning January 2014
    AMH 1.05; FSH range 7-11

    July 2014: IUI #1.  Follistim + Pregnyl.  2 follicles--BFN
    September 2014: IUI #2.  Follistim + Pregnyl + Ganirelix + Crinone.  4(?) follicles--BFN
    October 2014: IUI #3.  More Follistim + More Ganirelix + Pregnyl + Crinone.  4 follicles--BFP!  Beta #1=10 Beta #2=33 Beta #3=97 Beta #4=158.  M/C 11/1/14
    December 2014: IVF #1.  Microdose Lupron protocol.  9R, 9M, 9F.  3 5-day blasts transferred 12/15. BFFN.
    April 2015: IVF #2.  Microdose Lupron protocol.  16R, 15M, 12F. Transferred 2 5-day blasts 4/12 and froze 4--BFP!  M/C 5/25/15
    August 2015: IVF #3.  14R, 13M, 11F.  Froze 5 blasts for CCS testing.  3 normals.  FET planned for 10/2015.



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  • I want to be "blunt" but so far I haven't had the courage. I thought I would but when my son's principal said something the other day, I was just taken back. 

    There have been a few people who we have told who are close to us who haven't provided the reaction and support that I expected so that's set me back a bit from being more open. I'm at the point where I think IF needs to be discussed more openly though as it's such a taboo subject for many. 
    Me: 32, DH: 33
    DS #1: April 2010
    DS #2: July 2015 (preemie born at 31 weeks) - our little miracle conceived through ART - unexplained secondary infertility/adenomyosis
  • sailorgal said:
    I want to be "blunt" but so far I haven't had the courage. I thought I would but when my son's principal said something the other day, I was just taken back. 

    There have been a few people who we have told who are close to us who haven't provided the reaction and support that I expected so that's set me back a bit from being more open. I'm at the point where I think IF needs to be discussed more openly though as it's such a taboo subject for many. 
    It is so hard to open up when people aren't supportive.  "Just stop worrying about it, that's when it will happen."  ::Eyeroll::

    I try and post things on facebook about infant loss and infertility awareness, and some others have opened up that way.  But it also opens it up to that one friend who is against everything, including infertility tx.  

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    Round 2
    Since March 2013
    BFP April 2013 - Missed M/C July 2013 @ 12w6d
    BFP December 2013 - CP @ 4w3d
    Eight medicated cycles, three IUIs: FAIL
    IVF #1 Antagonist - January 2015: CP/FAIL

    IVF #2 April 2015: Microdose lupron Flare
    ICSI, CCS Freeze all
    6 blasts biopsied/5 normal

    FET #1 June 25, 2015 6AA and 5AA blast transfer
    BFP 3dp5dt!
    Beta 8dp5dt 195.2, 10dp5dt 474.8, 12dp5dt 977, 22dp5dt 25,580
    <3 Twins! Our boy and girl coming end of February!  <3

  • STL34STL34 member
    edited October 2014
    I'm sorry you are dealing with this @MoFree.  Most of my work colleagues know we struggled with IF before becoming parents the first time.  Luckily, I haven't had too many comments at work.  I do get the random stranger questions/comments and I don't really feel it is their business.  Sometimes I ignore it and sometimes I say something more vague like I wish I could have another child.  

    The hardest was when my SIL (who knew our struggles TTC #1) told us we need to hurry up and have a second child shortly after she had her second child.  That was a punch in the gut.  She also told us she was pregnant with #1 the day before our first IVF cycle failure was confirmed.  

    I really wish there were some way to make these questions/comments hurt less.  But, I don't think there is; at least not until we come to terms with possibly only having one child and then, I know I will still have some bitterness and yearning.  And then, when DD asks why we don't have a baby....

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    Me= 37 and DH = 41 

    Dx: DOR, Endo, APA+ (really high beta 2 glycoprotein antibody and high everything else tested), heterozygous MTHFR mutation, positive for lupus anticoagulant, high FSH, low AMH and both tubes blocked (per HSG on 3/8/11)

    IVF #1 - long lupron (with HGH, intralipids, lovenox and BA); 4 retrieved, 3 fertilized; ET 2 blasts and 1 frozen = BFN

    IVF #2 - a version of antagonist with EPP (with HGH, intralipids, lovenox and BA); 6 retrieved, 4 mature, 3 fertilized, 2 blasts and 1 frozen blast transferred on day 5 = BFN.

    IVF #3 April was postponed to May, May was canceled. June/July was canceled. Had a cyst aspiration and then began IVF #3 in August. ER on 8/22; ET on 8/24 with AH. +HPT on 9/5. Beta #1 (11dpo) = 3; Beta #2 (15dpo) = 29; Beta #3 (17dpo) = 60; Beta #4 (19 dpo) = 118. Heartbeat at 6 weeks 6 days =132.  Lil is here!

    TTC#2:  Trigger + TI = BFN; Clomid + Trigger + IUI = BFN.

    IVF #4:  BCP + MDLF + Lovenox = 7R, 1F = Transferred 1 6-cell embryo on day 3 = BFN

    IVF #5:  MDLF + Lovenox = 4R, 1F = Transferred 1 10-cell compacting embryo on day 3 = BFN

    IVF #6:  (New RE):  Long Antagonist November 2014 (transferred two 8 cell grade 1 embryos and froze one blast) = BFN

    FET#1:  BFN

  • The last several times someone has asked me if we are planning to have another or if we have started trying...  I tell then that we've been trying for 3 years and it hasn;t happened.  Some of them have been awestruck and shut up, others I have shared more with.  I am private in some ways, but I also probably overshare sometimes.    They don't bring it up after that.  One coworker tried to commiserate and said she had trouble getting pregnant too.  "Really??  You've had 4 kids over 8 years and your in your early/mid thirties.  Must not have been too hard."

    Some people don't get it.
    Married to the Love of My Life since September 14, 2002. 
    Me: 39 DH: 36
    BFP#1: 10/20/08,  EDD: 6/29/09
    PIH, bedrest for 4 wks, delivered at 39 weeks by induction and then c-section- Healthy baby boy on 6/24/09 :-)

    BFP#2: 11/24/11, EDD: 8/4/12, Angel Baby- 2/19/12
    Enlarged bladder seen on U/S at 12 weeks (1/15/12), possibly LUTO or Prune Belly, Heartbeat at OB on 2/17/12,
    No heartbeat/movement at U/S on 2/20/12, (missed MC), D&E:2/22/12.  Miscarried our sweet angel boy @ 16 wks

    TTCAL since June 2012, 
    Progesterone normal, FSH elevated & AMH on the low side--  "ovaries acting older"
    Clomid cycles: 50 mg in February, July, August, September, November 2013, June 2014--  BFNs!!  :-(
    August & September 2014: Clomid, HCG and IUI-- BFNs
    September 2014: FSH= 15.7 AMH= 0.25  UGH!!!  Old lady Ovaries!!!
    October & November 2014: Gonadatropin injections, HCG & IUI... BFNs!!

    We have been blessed with a sweet little boy.  
    Hoping to be able to give him a sibling someday.
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  • I am pretty private about this journey because many people I have shared with just still don't have any idea what it's really like and still persist in making dumb comments.  Like my secretary - we were having lunch and I was telling her how my cyst is getting better due to the new BCP regimen and she actually said "be careful - I got pregnant while on the pill - twice!"  Since I'm not in jail, you can see I quashed the urge to strangle her.
    Me: 35 DH: 35 - Married 10 years
    PCOS and MF

    Two failed rounds IUI in 2010
    IVF #1 in 2011 - BFP 8/5/11 - Our IVF miracle was born 4/8/12
    FET 9/23/13; BFP -Twins-10/3/13; EDD 6/10/14; MC 11/1/13; D&C 11/4/13
    FET 3/28/14; BFN - 4/7/14
    IVF #2 - Transfer 2 embryos 11/14/14; BFP 11/24/14 - Beta 265;
    11/26/14 - Beta 612; 11/28/14 - Beta 1263; 12/1/14 - Beta 3571;
    12/3/14 - first u/s - two gestational sacs; 12/17/14 - two healthy heartbeats (132 and 134)
    Our IVF miracles were born 7/16/15

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  • I try really hard to just smile and say, we shall see. But if someone presses, I get bitchy. I usually tell them that L broke me and I am currently unable to have more children. They usually drop it after that. That is how my MIL found out we were having issues. I tried to push her off, but on the 5th question in the same visit, I got pissed and lased out. She doesn't ask anymore. 

    Kid #1 - 09/03/12
    Kid #2 - maybe???
    Diagnosed with Severe Ashermans 
    Hysteroscopy #10 - scar tissue grew back reblocking my right tube
    #11 or IVF with scarring still inside?
    1 lone embryo from September 2016 retreival, dx with Trisomy 16, starting fresh
  • hoppin747 said:
    I am pretty private about this journey because many people I have shared with just still don't have any idea what it's really like and still persist in making dumb comments. 
    Pretty much exactly this. People just don't get it and I'm not the idiot wisperer so I don't bother to try to explain it very often. Mostly I just say, "We'll see" and then bitch to DH.
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