TTC After a Loss

Need advice. What would you do?

Spring78Spring78 member
edited September 2014 in TTC After a Loss
Sorry this is going to be long. So I am facing a dilemma regarding the scheduling of our next FET and I do not know what I should do. I experienced a mmc at nearly 12 weeks back at the end of July. We immediately started planning our next FET and as of now, it is scheduled for Nov 5 and I am set to start Lupron next week. Two weeks ago, we found out my MIL likely has ovarian cancer. Her surgergy (hysterectomy and oophorectomy) has been scheduled for Oct 16. The C-word aside, this surgery is going to be very hard on her. My mom had the procedure done for different reasons when she was twenty years younger than my MIL and she was pretty much out of commission for weeks. My DH is an only child and his father, though a great guy, has physical disabilities that will limit how much he can do during MIL's recovery, so we will likely be helping out a lot. I certainly do not mind doing anything I can (and MIL will accept) to help out, but I cannot ignore the fact that dealing with this situation ( juggling my own life and assisting in-laws, trying to help DH through the fear and pain of this diagnosis) is going to be unimaginably stressful. Add on top of that the stress of an FET cycle with all the hormones, shots, patches, Dr visits, etc... I feel a bit panicky just thinking about it. Should I just postpone the FET? My mom, DH and MIL all say we shouldn't change our plans... And my MIL dearly wants a grandchild and if the biopsy comes back confirming the suspected diagnosis, time might be in short supply (she has stated she would not pursue chemo if stage III or IV). So, there is a lot at stake, a lot of factors to consider.

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Me: 36, DH:37

Married 4/2010, TTC since 7/2011

Dx: Officially Unexplained (I have Polycystic Ovaries diagnosed via ultrasound, but few classic PCOS symptoms, he has mild MF issues. So... not issue free, but nothing so severe as to explain IF)

I also deal with post-surgical Hypothyroidism following Thyroid Cancer in 2009, but under control with Levothyroxine

4 months Clomid (thinned lining) and 10 months Letrozole (every indication that I responded perfectly)

6 failed IUIs in 2013, 3 with trigger

IVF #1 in March 2014

ER 3/21/14, 31R/21F, 12 frosties!

ET 3/26/14, 1 perfect blast transferred: BFN

FET#1 5/28/14, 2 "beautiful" early blasts transferred. BFP!!

Beta #1 (6/11/14) 798; Beta #2 (6/18/14) 7,966.

1st u/s (6/25/14) showed 2 sacs, 1 empty & 1 with a beautiful little bean doing what it needs to do!

EDD 2/14/15, missed miscarriage, DX: Trisomy 21. D&C 8/1/14

FET#2 Transferred 3 embies, 2 looking pretty good, one not so much. BFN.

IVF#2 January 2015, tentative ER 1/23

Re: Need advice. What would you do?

  • I just want to offer (((hugs))) I hope your mil's surgery goes well and she is ok. I don't have any advice, I think only you and YH can decide what is best here. I'm not even sure what I would do. But I'm sorry you have all of this additional stress and worry. (((Hugs)))

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    Married 6/11/2011

    Me & Hubby: 34

    TTC journey started 12/2012

    BFP #1 6/5/2013, MC confirmed 6/26/2013 @ 7 wks

    BFP#2 8/25/2013 MC confirmed 10/16/2013 @ 12 wks (D&C 10/18)

    Diagnosis: unexplained RPL, unexplained IF.

    Also have hypothyroidism

    Started TTC again 12/2013

     

    IUI#1:Clomid CD 3-7, Trigger'ed CD 12. IUI CD 14. BFN

    IUI #2:Letrozole CD 3 - 7, Follistim CD 9, Trigger CD 10, IUI CD12. BFN

    Current plan: IVF with PGD. Antagonist - Vivelle Protocal. Stim start 12/1. ER 12/14.

    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/502498

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  • Wanted to offer hugs.  I know this has to put you under a lot of stress.  I'm not sure what I would do exactly, but I might be up for postponing at least a month to have it be a little less stressful of a time.  What does your husband think?

    Me 35 / DH 36
    TTC since 09/2009
    Hashimoto's diagnosis 11/2011 / Endometriosis removal surgery 04/2013
    Other diagnosis: 1 mutation - PAI-1 gene
    BFP#1 9/27/2013  /  EDD 6/4/14  /  MC 10/17/2013
    BFP#2 3/4/14  /  EDD 11/13/14  /  CP
    BFP#3 6/7/14  / EDD 2/16/15  /  CP
    BFP #4 11/7/2014 / EDD 7/17/15  /  CP
    Current  Plan: Waiting to change RE... Appt on 1/16
    RXs: Metformin, Levothyroxin, Baby Aspirin, CoQ10, Vitamin D, Folic Acid, Pre-natal. Progesterone post O.

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  • That is such a tough position to be in.  I was looking at your age (I am 35) and I see that you are 36.  There is something to be said for your MIL's time potentially being short and that she wouldn't want you to put your life on hold.  If you were 26 I would probably say wait a few months, but I know that the older I get the more worried I get about the time, too.  

    On the other hand, you might potentially have some rough months ahead of you.  Surgeries have come a long way in 20 years so maybe it won't be quite the same experience your mom had, but if she has to do chemo and radiation that it going to knock her for a loop.  It would be very hard to be potentially KU and have all that emotional weight.  

    I know that doesn't really help, it just restates the quandary you already have, but I lean a little toward maybe delaying a month to see what the true diagnosis is.  That way you have all the information and you aren't moving forward blindly.  

    I will be sending light and positive thoughts to your MIL.  I certainly hope they find that it is not what it looks like and that her surgery goes well.  

    (((Hugs)))
    TTCAL January Siggy Challenge: Animals in the Snow

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    About Me: 

    AMA 35 :  DH 33
    BFP#1 1/26/14 (EDD: 10/7/14).  MMC 3/10/14 D&C 3/14/14
    RE Consult 11/3/14 - AMH 2.25 "great" . FSH 7.10 . Low Vitamin D
    Myomectomy 12/17/14.  Benched until March.

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    My Ovulation Chart
  • I think waiting one month does not push you back all that much and it may give you a better sense of what might be required if you and your H in terms of helping his mom.

    Is this your first FET? (I'm mobile so I can't see sigs). I ask because my FETS were infinitely easier than IVF cycle. I just wanted to give you encouragement in case you decide to go for it that it's not that bad and you will get through it.

    I'm so sorry to hear about your MIL. Throwing in IF treatment on top doesn't sound fun at all. GL and know that we're here for you if you need an ear or a shoulder.

    Big hugs.
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    37 years old, MH is 42
    TTC since 2010; Dx Unexplained Infertility; possible male factor 
    August 2012 through June 2013:  6 IUIs with clomid and trigger shot, all BFNs
    7/2013, Pregnant! Unmedicated--we were on a treatment break
    8/20/13 no heart beat; 8/23/13 d&c
    3/15/14 IVF #1:  Lupron/Follistim/Menopur; ER 3/10 resulting in four transfer grade blastocysts, transferred one pretty blast and froze the remaining three. BFN. 
    Natural FET in May cancelled because the universe hates me my hormones were not cooperating.
    6/24/14 FET #1: transferred two pretty embryos; BFN   
    8/28/14 FET #2: BFP, ended in Chemical pregnancy

    Done with medical intervention and getting used to the idea of CFNBC.  




    All welcome
  • No advice, just hugs. I'm so sorry that you're in this position.
  • I don't have any advice, just wanted to say I'm sorry. Will be thinking of you and your family. I don't know what I would do. I think you and YH need to discuss how much stress you can handle and if it's manageable. (((Hugs)))
    TTC: Since July 2013
    BFP #1: EDD 05/27/2014 (D&C 10/17/2014)
  • Lurking but just wanted to say, do you know if the surgery will be laparoscopic or open? I ask because the recovery times are very different for both. It might be something you want to check before you make a decision.
  • I don't really have any advice but wanted to say I am thinking about your MIL and you and your DH in this very diffcult situation. I hope you are able to come up with a solution that is positive for everyone involved.
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    BFP #1 6.9.12 EDD 2.16.13 Ended in emergency surgery due to an ectopic 6.23.13
    BFP #2 9.6.13  Rainbow born 5.22.13
    BFP# 3 8.28.14 EDD 5.1.15  2nd u/s revealed Twins   m/c 9.21.14 
    BFP # 4 11.27.14 EDD 8.5.15  1 perfect bean @ 6 weeks


  • I'm sorry that you find yourself with this dilema. I agree with the rest of pp that perpahs waiting one month is probably a good idea, just to see what will happen with your MIL. Definitely keep having open discussions with your DH and MIL. With that being said, you should not feel like you need to put your life on hold. I can somewhat relate to you because my MIL has had several strokes and can no longer walk and needs assistance with practically everything. DH has taken a lot of time helping out, but we have discussed that we will keep TTC regardless. It has added more stress, but our desire to become parents is much stronger than anything else.

    I'll keep you in my prayers. @Spring78

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  • I also offer my sympathies, but I will say that perhaps (although stressful), helping her may not only be a service to her but to yourself as well. Helping others can get you out of your own head and keep you busy. The hormone stuff makes me a crazy person and anything that provides structure or focus is helpful during those times. Maybe it will be like that for you, so don't psych yourself out. Both my parents had cancer in the last couple of years and were running their business in-between doc appts/radiation, etc. I mentioned how ridiculous it was that they couldn't just focus on their health needs and they said that work helped keep things normal for them, as difficult as it was to juggle everything.

    Good luck!!
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    Losses: MMC#1 11/12 BO, MC#2 11/13 at 8w BO?, MMC#3 8/14 chromo healthy M @12 weeks, stopped growing at 10.
    Negligible AMH, FSH finally went high. Pursued DE.

    DD born at 38w2d on 5-27-16. Finally!!

    Pregnant again with OE. EDD 11/9/17 Girl!




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  • Thanks, ladies. I really appreciate all the support. I still don't know what I am going to do... but I have another week before I need to make the final call (even if I go ahead and order the meds, they can wait another month or so). I tried to talk to my husband about it again last night... but when I asked what he thought about delaying, he fixated on whether it was too close to the holidays or not. When I finally got through to him that I was not concerned about the holidays but I was concerned about his mom's situation, he never really responded. He got quiet then changed the subject. No one really wants to talk about what is happening. But it won't go away if we ignore it.  As for the type of surgery, I think they are leaning toward open due to tumor involvement, but I do not think anything is set in stone yet in that regard.  My age is certainly a factor to considered. At t.hi.s point, I'd be 37 at delivery -- and that is if this transfer were to be the on that worked. I really don't wnt to put it off any longer than necessary... and chances are it is going to be a long time until things are better... MIL intends to refuse chemo if it is stage III or IV (75% of ovarian cancers are diagnosed at stage III or IV, so odds not in our favor), and if we are lucky, it will be early and she will try to fight it, meaning chemo... I just don't see a path for things to be less srressful anytime soon

    *************Siggy Warning. Loss mentioned.************




    Me: 36, DH:37

    Married 4/2010, TTC since 7/2011

    Dx: Officially Unexplained (I have Polycystic Ovaries diagnosed via ultrasound, but few classic PCOS symptoms, he has mild MF issues. So... not issue free, but nothing so severe as to explain IF)

    I also deal with post-surgical Hypothyroidism following Thyroid Cancer in 2009, but under control with Levothyroxine

    4 months Clomid (thinned lining) and 10 months Letrozole (every indication that I responded perfectly)

    6 failed IUIs in 2013, 3 with trigger

    IVF #1 in March 2014

    ER 3/21/14, 31R/21F, 12 frosties!

    ET 3/26/14, 1 perfect blast transferred: BFN

    FET#1 5/28/14, 2 "beautiful" early blasts transferred. BFP!!

    Beta #1 (6/11/14) 798; Beta #2 (6/18/14) 7,966.

    1st u/s (6/25/14) showed 2 sacs, 1 empty & 1 with a beautiful little bean doing what it needs to do!

    EDD 2/14/15, missed miscarriage, DX: Trisomy 21. D&C 8/1/14

    FET#2 Transferred 3 embies, 2 looking pretty good, one not so much. BFN.

    IVF#2 January 2015, tentative ER 1/23

  • Thanks for letting me ramble and work my waythrough this a little... With everyone trying to live in denial here, I don't really have anyone in real life tobounce these thoughts off of. I need to be sure I have at least my own thoughts worked out before I force DH to face the issue. Maybe there is no need to do that at all, if I decide to go through with it, since that is what he wants to do, anyway... *sigh* So much to think about.

    *************Siggy Warning. Loss mentioned.************




    Me: 36, DH:37

    Married 4/2010, TTC since 7/2011

    Dx: Officially Unexplained (I have Polycystic Ovaries diagnosed via ultrasound, but few classic PCOS symptoms, he has mild MF issues. So... not issue free, but nothing so severe as to explain IF)

    I also deal with post-surgical Hypothyroidism following Thyroid Cancer in 2009, but under control with Levothyroxine

    4 months Clomid (thinned lining) and 10 months Letrozole (every indication that I responded perfectly)

    6 failed IUIs in 2013, 3 with trigger

    IVF #1 in March 2014

    ER 3/21/14, 31R/21F, 12 frosties!

    ET 3/26/14, 1 perfect blast transferred: BFN

    FET#1 5/28/14, 2 "beautiful" early blasts transferred. BFP!!

    Beta #1 (6/11/14) 798; Beta #2 (6/18/14) 7,966.

    1st u/s (6/25/14) showed 2 sacs, 1 empty & 1 with a beautiful little bean doing what it needs to do!

    EDD 2/14/15, missed miscarriage, DX: Trisomy 21. D&C 8/1/14

    FET#2 Transferred 3 embies, 2 looking pretty good, one not so much. BFN.

    IVF#2 January 2015, tentative ER 1/23

  • No advice, but just wanted to say (((hugs))) and I'm sorry you're having to deal with this decision.

    Started TTC Nov. 2011 

    1st clomid cycle June 2012- No response :: HSG August 2012- Left tube blocked, right tube clear :: 2nd clomid cycle Aug. 2012 BFN :: 3rd clomid cycle Sept. 2012 :: BFP Sept 30th :: DS born 6/15/13 :: BFP #2 7/29/14 M/C 8/5/14 :: BFP#3 10/20/14 DD born 7/1/2015 :: Applied to be surrogate April '17 :: Transferred 1 Embryo for IFs Dec. '17 :: Surro Babe born 9/11/18 :: Started 2nd Journey May '19 :: Transferred 1 Embryo for new IFs 9/24/19 :: HB 138 at 6w6d


  • Spring78 said:
    Thanks for letting me ramble and work my waythrough this a little... With everyone trying to live in denial here, I don't really have anyone in real life tobounce these thoughts off of. I need to be sure I have at least my own thoughts worked out before I force DH to face the issue. Maybe there is no need to do that at all, if I decide to go through with it, since that is what he wants to do, anyway... *sigh* So much to think about.
    ((Hugs)) Spring.  I am sure you are under such an incredible amount of stress.  We are here for you.  :x
    TTCAL January Siggy Challenge: Animals in the Snow

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    About Me: 

    AMA 35 :  DH 33
    BFP#1 1/26/14 (EDD: 10/7/14).  MMC 3/10/14 D&C 3/14/14
    RE Consult 11/3/14 - AMH 2.25 "great" . FSH 7.10 . Low Vitamin D
    Myomectomy 12/17/14.  Benched until March.

    image

    My Ovulation Chart
  • I'm sorry you are faced with this situation. This is a very personal decision. I don't have experience FET so I don't know what kind of physical strain is involved but if it were me, I'd try to get a good gauge on where my husband was at emotionally with everything and whether he was prepared. Guys can be so difficult to read sometimes.  If he was ready to go ahead, I would probably do it just because (at least in my case) life never seems to get any less stressful. To be honest, although probably not the healthiest way of dealing with my emotions, I've found that the more stressed I am about other areas of my life, the less time I spend worrying about fertility issues that I have no control over. This is very complicated though so I don't know if I would have the same opinion if I was actually going through this rather than hypothetically. Extra workload and emergency house repairs are a very different kind of problem. My heart goes out to you.

     

     

     

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