FFFC

kimberly_ann81

@OLJ1010

Name, name, name.  I need to know the name

Maelara

MuchlyGen said:

Econosaurus said:

The more I read and think about breast feeding I realize I don't want to do it. I know I have to and it's good for baby and all that stuff but I just don't want to do it. It seems painful, inconvenient, and unfair. Now I'm paranoid I'm going to resent baby and husband for it.

I'm a total BFing advocate. I'm all for breastfeeding. I think it's the best option, I wish there was better support and education for it, and I hope that most moms will give it a chance...

That said, I genuinely believe that more important than BFing is mom's mental health. It isn't something you HAVE to do. If you choose to, then good for you, and I would be happy to correspond with you if you run into issues or have questions (srsly, that goes for any of my N14 ladies, I'm happy to talk BFing anytime). If you do find that it's affecting your mood or your feelings towards baby and husband, then... BFing may no longer the best or right choice. And that is ok too. Your job as mom is making the right choice for you and your baby and your family. 

That said, BFing can be kind of painful and inconvenient and a hassle at first. But after the initial "learning period", there is nothing in the world more convenient, and you honestly don't even feel it after awhile. It starts at a much higher difficulty level than FF, but then there's a sharp drop off - for me, it was totally worth pushing through the tough part to get to the smooth sailing. For you it may not be.

And that is okay. 

Don't let anyone make you feel otherwise.

So this. @econosaurus you don't HAVE to do anything. Your mental state is so much more important than BF. if you do try and you get to a point where you just can't do it anymore, please please please don't feel guilty or like you're a failure. We will be here to support you no matter what you chose.

absolutelymaybe

sj+cm131 said:

schrijiver said:

My first FFFC:

Kristy774 said:

 The people who post on here asking for medical advice because they "don't want to be an alarmist and call their doctor" but yet have a laundry list of reasons why they should in fact call. Seriously? It makes me want to scream.... "Call your mother fucking doctor crazy"-that's what I really want to say to these posters. It might happen eventually, stay tuned....

I'm going to play off this "people don't understand the rules to when to call/see the doctor" arena, just in the other direction.

In my world, the ER is for emergencies.  Not because you jammed your finger, not because your ten year old threw up 3 times last night, not because you have a cold (all of these are straight from my FB feed, and all during the day when urgent care or a PCP would have been available). 

When I was sent to the ER last Wednesday (I called my OB first and was on the way to the office when they told me my symptoms were ER worthy so I headed there) the guy in front of me, when checking in, no lie said he had been coughing for 5 days and had a sore throat.  That's not an issue for the ER.  That's an urgent care or regular doctor visit.  I feel like people who truly have emergencies are having longer wait times because of the non-emergencies.  It just seems common practice among my friends and even my family to just run to the ER for any medical issue and I don't get it.

I agree about dislike of people who run to the ER for non-emergencies, but only when there are other options available. I once went to the ER for and ear infection. I was living in a small town at the time that had a shortage of doctors. My doctor's office couldn't get me in for 3 days and the closest urgent care was 100 miles away.  I was planning on waiting until my appointment, but my mom (a nurse) encouraged me to go to the ER. If I would have waited until my appointment, there is a very good chance I would have had permanent damage.

I have a friend that is a doctor. She worked in the local ER for a while. She said that she had women come in for pregnancy tests. They weren't citizens, barely spoke English, and celebrated when it was positive.  Total abuse of the system!

(Sorry I've been elbow deep in zucchini goo all day and trying to play catch up while getting ready to go out to dinner.) 

My FFFC: I really hate when people add things like the bolded to their statements. I agree with the initial sentiment that the ER isn't a place to find out if you are pregnant or not, but calling out people on their citizenship or fluency of the english language doesn't add anything to prove their point and sounds incredibly racist. I hear it all the time. 

All kinds of people abuse the system. Why do we need to single out the fact that they didn't speak english and, how dare they, be excited they are expecting. 

Flame away!

Oh, and I like baby hats with ears :-) 

ssstephanie214

I spent $15 on ice creams from trader joes just to get a Sampling and I recommend everyone try the tropical fruit floes.

JamieK1882

Dinner. And I'm home alone tonight.

JamieK1882

Trying this again..

AnnieRoo13

absolutelymaybe said:

sj+cm131 said:

schrijiver said:

My first FFFC:

Kristy774 said:

 The people who post on here asking for medical advice because they "don't want to be an alarmist and call their doctor" but yet have a laundry list of reasons why they should in fact call. Seriously? It makes me want to scream.... "Call your mother fucking doctor crazy"-that's what I really want to say to these posters. It might happen eventually, stay tuned....

I'm going to play off this "people don't understand the rules to when to call/see the doctor" arena, just in the other direction.

In my world, the ER is for emergencies.  Not because you jammed your finger, not because your ten year old threw up 3 times last night, not because you have a cold (all of these are straight from my FB feed, and all during the day when urgent care or a PCP would have been available). 

When I was sent to the ER last Wednesday (I called my OB first and was on the way to the office when they told me my symptoms were ER worthy so I headed there) the guy in front of me, when checking in, no lie said he had been coughing for 5 days and had a sore throat.  That's not an issue for the ER.  That's an urgent care or regular doctor visit.  I feel like people who truly have emergencies are having longer wait times because of the non-emergencies.  It just seems common practice among my friends and even my family to just run to the ER for any medical issue and I don't get it.

I agree about dislike of people who run to the ER for non-emergencies, but only when there are other options available. I once went to the ER for and ear infection. I was living in a small town at the time that had a shortage of doctors. My doctor's office couldn't get me in for 3 days and the closest urgent care was 100 miles away.  I was planning on waiting until my appointment, but my mom (a nurse) encouraged me to go to the ER. If I would have waited until my appointment, there is a very good chance I would have had permanent damage.

I have a friend that is a doctor. She worked in the local ER for a while. She said that she had women come in for pregnancy tests. They weren't citizens, barely spoke English, and celebrated when it was positive.  Total abuse of the system!

(Sorry I've been elbow deep in zucchini goo all day and trying to play catch up while getting ready to go out to dinner.) 

My FFFC: I really hate when people add things like the bolded to their statements. I agree with the initial sentiment that the ER isn't a place to find out if you are pregnant or not, but calling out people on their citizenship or fluency of the english language doesn't add anything to prove their point and sounds incredibly racist. I hear it all the time. 

All kinds of people abuse
the system. Why do we need to single out the fact that they didn't speak english and, how dare they, be excited they are expecting. 

Flame away!

Oh, and I like baby hats with ears :-) 

All of this. Every part of it a thousand times over.

AnnieRoo13

I'm kind of excited to nurse in public and have people look at me. I almost want them to say something because I'll be so ready to defend myself and breastfeeding in general. I also realize I'm probably one of the only people who would ever say that.

Carebella

@AnnieRoo13‌ Part of me is totally on board with doing this too! But sadly that part is probably 5% and the other 95% is a mix of general shyness and also being on the modest side. I think you're a rock star for being up to the challenge of making people realize NIP should never be an issue. It's nature, that's all.

lizgrace03

AnnieRoo13 said:

sj+cm131 said:

schrijiver said:

My first FFFC:

Kristy774 said:

 The people who post on here asking for medical advice because they "don't want to be an alarmist and call their doctor" but yet have a laundry list of reasons why they should in fact call. Seriously? It makes me want to scream.... "Call your mother fucking doctor crazy"-that's what I really want to say to these posters. It might happen eventually, stay tuned....

I'm going to play off this "people don't understand the rules to when to call/see the doctor" arena, just in the other direction.

In my world, the ER is for emergencies.  Not because you jammed your finger, not because your ten year old threw up 3 times last night, not because you have a cold (all of these are straight from my FB feed, and all during the day when urgent care or a PCP would have been available). 

When I was sent to the ER last Wednesday (I called my OB first and was on the way to the office when they told me my symptoms were ER worthy so I headed there) the guy in front of me, when checking in, no lie said he had been coughing for 5 days and had a sore throat.  That's not an issue for the ER.  That's an urgent care or regular doctor visit.  I feel like people who truly have emergencies are having longer wait times because of the non-emergencies.  It just seems common practice among my friends and even my family to just run to the ER for any medical issue and I don't get it.

I agree about dislike of people who run to the ER for non-emergencies, but only when there are other options available. I once went to the ER for and ear infection. I was living in a small town at the time that had a shortage of doctors. My doctor's office couldn't get me in for 3 days and the closest urgent care was 100 miles away.  I was planning on waiting until my appointment, but my mom (a nurse) encouraged me to go to the ER. If I would have waited until my appointment, there is a very good chance I would have had permanent damage.

I have a friend that is a doctor. She worked in the local ER for a while. She said that she had women come in for pregnancy tests. They weren't citizens, barely spoke English, and celebrated when it was positive.  Total abuse of the system!

(Sorry I've been elbow deep in zucchini goo all day and trying to play catch up while getting ready to go out to dinner.) 

My FFFC: I really hate when people add things like the bolded to their statements. I agree with the initial sentiment that the ER isn't a place to find out if you are pregnant or not, but calling out people on their citizenship or fluency of the english language doesn't add anything to prove their point and sounds incredibly racist. I hear it all the time. 

All kinds of people abuse the system. Why do we need to single out the fact that they didn't speak english and, how dare they, be excited they are expecting. 

Flame away!

Oh, and I like baby hats with ears :-) 

All of this. Every part of it a thousand times over.

We do a lot of research on this in my department and it's an issue I feel strongly about.  The biggest reason why undocumented immigrants use the ER is that they have nowhere else to go.  A few important points to note:

--Barely any providers speak Spanish.

--They probably don't have insurance or really understand the American health care system.  

--Obtaining citizenship is ridiculously difficult to almost impossible.

--Many of them may have come here when they were children and are not able to return.

It's important to understand the context behind what appears to be irrational or abusive behavior.

MissN06

When we had the gender ultrasound, I almost cried in the office when they said the babe was a girl. I was convinced it was a boy, wanted a boy and called the baby by the boy name.

I also want to throat punch people when they tell me to get ready for tutus, ruffles, and pink. It took months for me to get really excited about a girl. Now I'm happy she is coming and healthy so far but the constant comments about getting a diva and having pink getting jammed down my throat makes me stabby.

Jan1214

I'm horrified at the thought of a dog humping a toddler.

wildflower75

bethas said:

Re: breastfeeding.  I just had this conversation with my therapist this week.  She asked me why I was choosing to do it, and I explained the reasons.  Then she asked me if I HAD to do it.  I said not really, that we could probably swing the cost of formula if we had to, even though it would be a lot cheaper not to.  

She said that in her experience, BF does create issues in women already prone to depressive disorders because of feeling so constantly attached to baby.  There isn't anyone else who can attend to their needs, and that causes problems.  Her comment was, "there is something to be said for being able to respond to your own rhythms when you have to.  Being able to get out of the house alone, get a nap, and so on, that allows you to help overcome depression and down times."  

That made so much sense to me.  

So don't feel bad if BF isn't the right choice for you, because FF may be the better choice for your family.

@bethas
I must say that this can depend on how soon you start pumping and have someone else helping you with feedings. When my DD was 3 weeks old I started pumping so that DH and my mom could help with feedings and I could get some rest! She had no problem with drinking breastmilk from the bottle or the boob and it took a lot of the burden off of me, even if it was 2-3 feedings a day that I didn't do myself.
Just putting it out there as an option that could work.

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All these people having sex /gender disappointment is a big reason why we are Team Green!!

mslynn2012

@Jan1214‌

I have it on video
his giggles are infectious!

absolutelymaybe

AnnieRoo13 said:

I'm kind of excited to nurse in public and have people look at me. I almost want them to say something because I'll be so ready to defend myself and breastfeeding in general. I also realize I'm probably one of the only people who would ever say that.

Lol me too! I've been sitting in on discussions about a pumping room at our work and I'm shocked how uncomfortable so many of the BFing mothers are with just the idea that someone would know they were pumping for their child.

I think it's sad they feel shamed for feeding their babies.

I haven't really prepared what I will say to anyone who has an issue with it, but I probably should get that in line.

absolutelymaybe

Jan1214 said:

I'm horrified at the thought of a dog humping a toddler.

Did I miss something?

mslynn2012

I allowed my 4.5 pound yorkie to chase and hump my 17 month old son because he thought it was hilarious and I am/was in too much pain to stop it.



Eta @absolutelymaybe‌

megbanachek

@AnnieRoo13‌ approx 80% of Australians agree with you (including me!) about breast feeding in public. I will laugh so loud at anyone who objects to me feeding my child.
Yay boobs!

absolutelymaybe

@mslynn2012‌ lol that's kind of funny.

Our mix has a thing for 4-5 year olds. Unfortunately he is part Great Dane and bigger than they are so not so funny. We nicknamed him Pedo Panda (his name is Panda Bear).

mslynn2012

@absolutelymaybe‌

It was super funny. He ran around the living room and she chased him. Whenever he sat down she would lick him and try to "get" his leg/feet. He would crack up (huge toddler belly laugh), push her off, get up and run around again.

This gave me a solid 15 minutes of laying on the couch. It was heavenly!

But to some, it's flame-worthy. ::shrugs::

runningmama14

mussalynn said:

Maelara said:

THIS is the point of those hats:

Yay!  My fave pic of N ever...!!!  Is it creepy that I have a favourite pic of her?  (sorry, she's just so cute!)

My FFFC- DS goes to day home on Thursdays, which is my sanity's saving grace.  I get the day all to myself to do as much or as little as I want.  Our cleaning lady is DH's aunt, and she has epilepsy so she can't drive, and I was supposed to go pick her up yesterday to clean our house but I "called in sick" so that I didn't have to go get her and then drive her home so I could just lay on the couch all day on my day off.  (she lives 30 mins away)

@runningmama14 we totally had a frog eye hat like that...!  This is DS in it when he was a newborn:

@mussalynn - I LOVE it!  So cute!!!

crizz13

DH and I went to a college football game this afternoon. We left in the 3rd quarter and I went home and he went out with the guys. I just called/texted him to see if he will be coming home for dinner etc. His phone is dead. It's taking everything I have to not text one of the guys he's with and tell them "it's urgent" or something along the lines of making them think the baby is on her way.

He should know better than to let his phone die when we are only 7 weeks away from her arrival!

wildflower75

crizz13 said:

DH and I went to a college football game this afternoon. We left in the 3rd quarter and I went home and he went out with the guys. I just called/texted him to see if he will be coming home for dinner etc. His phone is dead. It's taking everything I have to not text one of the guys he's with and tell them "it's urgent" or something along the lines of making them think the baby is on her way.

He should know better than to let his phone die when we are only 7 weeks away from her arrival!

UGH! That's one my biggest pet peeves this pregnancy!!! ANSWER THE DAMN PHONE!!! And surely don't let it DIE!!! Argh! I'm angry for you!!

heythereporkchop

MissN06 said:

When we had the gender ultrasound, I almost cried in the office when they said the babe was a girl. I was convinced it was a boy, wanted a boy and called the baby by the boy name.

I also want to throat punch people when they tell me to get ready for tutus, ruffles, and pink. It took months for me to get really excited about a girl. Now I'm happy she is coming and healthy so far but the constant comments about getting a diva and having pink getting jammed down my throat makes me stabby.

I have banned pink. I'm over the moon we're having a girl but I loathe baby pink & blue and the assumption that WE MUST DROWN OUR BABIES IN THESE COLOURS!

My nursery is black and white, and I've been buying rad clothes. If she chooses pink things when she's older that's fine, she can like whatever she wants - but until then pink can naff off.

(Except, of course, any that I buy haha)

MissN06

heythereporkchop said:

When we had the gender ultrasound, I almost cried in the office when they said the babe was a girl. I was convinced it was a boy, wanted a boy and called the baby by the boy name. I also want to throat punch people when they tell me to get ready for tutus, ruffles, and pink. It took months for me to get really excited about a girl. Now I'm happy she is coming and healthy so far but the constant comments about getting a diva and having pink getting jammed down my throat makes me stabby.

I have banned pink. I'm over the moon we're having a girl but I loathe baby pink & blue and the assumption that WE MUST DROWN OUR BABIES IN THESE COLOURS! My nursery is black and white, and I've been buying rad clothes. If she chooses pink things when she's older that's fine, she can like whatever she wants - but until then pink can naff off. (Except, of course, any that I buy haha)

I'm finally accepting that there is a generation who will only give pink. All of our family has been great with no pink it's co-workers who can't stop pushing pink and diva comments. I didn't want a girl because of the drama I watch my female students go through when they go to junior high and I didn't want pink thrown at me just because it's a girl. My nursery is Dr. Seuss Characters with lots of red and white. I did bold primary colors.

ColtiersMom

lizgrace03 said:

AnnieRoo13 said:

absolutelymaybe said:

sj+cm131 said:

schrijiver said:

My first FFFC:

Kristy774 said:

 The people who post on here asking for medical advice because they "don't want to be an alarmist and call their doctor" but yet have a laundry list of reasons why they should in fact call. Seriously? It makes me want to scream.... "Call your mother fucking doctor crazy"-that's what I really want to say to these posters. It might happen eventually, stay tuned....

I'm going to play off this "people don't understand the rules to when to call/see the doctor" arena, just in the other direction.

In my world, the ER is for emergencies.  Not because you jammed your finger, not because your ten year old threw up 3 times last night, not because you have a cold (all of these are straight from my FB feed, and all during the day when urgent care or a PCP would have been available). 

When I was sent to the ER last Wednesday (I called my OB first and was on the way to the office when they told me my symptoms were ER worthy so I headed there) the guy in front of me, when checking in, no lie said he had been coughing for 5 days and had a sore throat.  That's not an issue for the ER.  That's an urgent care or regular doctor visit.  I feel like people who truly have emergencies are having longer wait times because of the non-emergencies.  It just seems common practice among my friends and even my family to just run to the ER for any medical issue and I don't get it.

I agree about dislike of people who run to the ER for non-emergencies, but only when there are other options available. I once went to the ER for and ear infection. I was living in a small town at the time that had a shortage of doctors. My doctor's office couldn't get me in for 3 days and the closest urgent care was 100 miles away.  I was planning on waiting until my appointment, but my mom (a nurse) encouraged me to go to the ER. If I would have waited until my appointment, there is a very good chance I would have had permanent damage.

I have a friend that is a doctor. She worked in the local ER for a while. She said that she had women come in for pregnancy tests. They weren't citizens, barely spoke English, and celebrated when it was positive.  Total abuse of the system!

(Sorry I've been elbow deep in zucchini goo all day and trying to play catch up while getting ready to go out to dinner.) 

My FFFC: I really hate when people add things like the bolded to their statements. I agree with the initial sentiment that the ER isn't a place to find out if you are pregnant or not, but calling out people on their citizenship or fluency of the english language doesn't add anything to prove their point and sounds incredibly racist. I hear it all the time. 

All kinds of people abuse
the system. Why do we need to single out the fact that they didn't speak english and, how dare they, be excited they are expecting. 

Flame away!

Oh, and I like baby hats with ears :-) 

All of this. Every part of it a thousand times over.


We do a lot of research on this in my department and it's an issue I feel strongly about.  The biggest reason why undocumented immigrants use the ER is that they have nowhere else to go.  A few important points to note:

--Barely any providers speak Spanish.

--They probably don't have insurance or really understand the American health care system.  

--Obtaining citizenship is ridiculously difficult to almost impossible.

--Many of them may have come here when they were children and are not able to return.

It's important to understand the context behind what appears to be irrational or abusive behavior.

I personally see both sides of this because I see abuse/neglect of the system everyday (the dr I work for does speak spanish by the way).

I'm a nurse in a dr.'s office in Texas. We see alot of hispanic people and some of them are citizens and do have insurance, other legal citizens do not but have no problem paying for their visit/shots/lab fees/etc before they leave.
Then their are the others, almost the majority that not only are here illegally but have TWO names-one that they work under and one that is their legal name.
These same people are cheating our system because not only are they recieving government aid that we are paying for but they are getting it for two people-themselves and the name they work under!!!