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theseaword

https://gawker.com/django-unchained-actress-mistaken-for-prostitute-accos-1634555094

Danièle Watts, an African-American actress who played Coco in Django Unchained and appears as Martin Lawrence's daughter on FX's Partners, says she was handcuffed and detained on Thursday by police in Los Angeles who suspected she was a prostitute.



According to Watts, she was approached by two police officers after kissing her husband Brian James Lucas, who is white, in public. Watts was reportedly asked to show ID and, when she refused, she was handcuffed and placed in the back of a police car. They let her go after finding out who she was.

Credit also to proboards where this was linked.

theseaword

greenbeanqueen

They LAPD says there is "no record of the incident". What a joke. I hope she files a lawsuit.

lp0

WTAF?! They've never seen a bi-racial couple before? Were they in an area that prostitutes frequent? How was she dressed that they thought she was a prostitute? There's got to be more to the story.

(Not that any clothing she was wearing excuses this in any way or gives them just cause, just trying to make sense of it)

LadyXaverian

Was he arrested and detained for soliciting the services of a prostitute?

Please let there be more to this story. 

sleepy33

Gah, that first picture of her sobbing hits me right in the gut. I like to think I would be super cool and badass and stuff if some bullshit like this happened to me, but the reality is I am sure I would bawl like that. That's fucked up.

lp0

fredalina said:

lpo198 said:

WTAF?! They've never seen a bi-racial couple before? Were they in an area that prostitutes frequent? How was she dressed that they thought she was a prostitute? There's got to be more to the story.

(Not that any clothing she was wearing excuses this in any way or gives them just cause, just trying to make sense of it)

She was wearing shorts (not even short or tight shorts) and a white kind of ratty t shirt with writing on it (looked like Sharpie or paint). I saw pics in an article today.

Oh! I didn't open this link because I read about it early on FB.

It's ridiculous no matter what she was wearing but come on!

theseaword

I need to find out for sure, but I believe they need legal grounds to detain you before they can demand ID. There has to be a valid suspicion of wrong doing before you are legally considered "detained". So if a cop asks you for ID, you can demand to know why you are bring detained. If they say you are not detained, you can walk away. They asked for an id because they thought she was a prostitute. This would not have happened to a white couple,

lp0

Chillpr said:

Inkogneetoh said:

The article I read said they were responding to a call from a citizen?  And it sounds like they cuffed her for refusing to provide her ID?  If that's not the case, then this is fucked up.  But I feel like the media is going after any story that involved race and cops since everything that went down in Ferguson.  I don't know what to believe anymore.

You're crazy if you feel like Ferguson is the reason "the media is going after any story that involves race and cops".

THEY SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!

It's obvious Americans like you are CLUELESS about the injustices happening EVERY SINGLE DAY. Get real.

Wow @chillpr! I know this subject is a hot button for you but I think what @Inkogneetoh was saying is that the news tend to run stories in trends (i.e. kids being left in cars were in the news every other day this summer). I don't think she was implying that these things don't happen every day or that they aren't news worthy.

theseaword

Here's a video where a law student demonstrates his rights. Kid is a bit annoying, but it is good to know what your rights are: https://youtu.be/RjtDoKDIVIw

angelashly

Everyone knows that these injustice happens daily, but yes the media does go on trends. Sorry it happens.

cashnchange

Chillpr said:

Inkogneetoh said:

The article I read said they were responding to a call from a citizen?  And it sounds like they cuffed her for refusing to provide her ID?  If that's not the case, then this is fucked up.  But I feel like the media is going after any story that involved race and cops since everything that went down in Ferguson.  I don't know what to believe anymore.

You're crazy if you feel like Ferguson is the reason "the media is going after any story that involves race and cops".

THEY SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!

It's obvious Americans like you are CLUELESS about the injustices happening EVERY SINGLE DAY. Get real.

Well, that escalated quickly.

angelashly

I just can't with people who don't read /listen to others

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jorkz821

AuburnGirlSC said:

MotherOfPearl85 said:

https://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/09/15/django-actress-daniele-watts-lapd-race-card-fame-audio

According to this article she was having sex in the car.

Well, that would make the accusation of prostitution more understandable. The whole thing is weird. She says she was out of the car, on the sidewalk, talking on her phone when the cops arrived.

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And also why would they arrest her and not her h if it was sex in the car?

(*am not familiar with laws around this/prostitution so that's why I'm asking)

jorkz821

K3am said:

Yep, that was dumb. I'm just not up for the debate (not enough time, not at the level of rage that this type of post is meant to inspire) and should have kept my mouth shut. 

No I think it was a good question. I was wondering myself, and would have just given my ID had I been in her place. But, again, I'm not American and am not familiar with the laws/rights there.

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sleepy33

K3am said:

I guess I'm just too simple minded, but I really don't see any problem with providing ID... I don't see a whole lot of downside to doing it and maybe a whole lot of this issue could have been avoided if she had. 

It's Monday, and I'm not ready/willing to get into a whole legal slippery slope debate, but I just find the whole story odd. 

Really? Do you want to live in a world where you must always carry photo ID on your person, 'just in case' someone wrongfully believes you're committing a crime? What if you're out for a walk in your neighborhood? What if you don't drive and therefore don't have a license? What if you lose your wallet? I don't know your background, but a lot of people who are not part of a minority think, what's the big deal in a situation like this, because they don't envision a scenario where, say, they could be innocently walking down the street and someone thinks they look 'suspicious', calls the cops, and the cops show up and demand ID.

theseaword

Not targeting the specific pp, but saying "what is the big deal with showing id?" is a "check your privilege" moment.

vandelay

fredalina said:

Omg this just came up in my news feed. Totally NSFW for language but this dude has some serious balls.

https://www.punkrocklibertarians.com/half-dozen-laser-sights-chest-still-guy-asserts-rights/

Wow, that's hard to watch.

lp0

Can I play devil's advocate for a moment? There are white prostitutes as well, no? I'm sure location (know prostitute areas) has a lot to do with it as well.

theseaword

lpo198 said:

Can I play devil's advocate for a moment? There are white prostitutes as well, no? I'm sure location (know prostitute areas) has a lot to do with it as well.

What? No. Point missed.

lp0

theseaword said:

lpo198 said:

Can I play devil's advocate for a moment? There are white prostitutes as well, no? I'm sure location (know prostitute areas) has a lot to do with it as well.

What? No. Point missed.

I thought what was being discussed is that white women are not generally suspected of being prostitutes but minority women are. No?

theseaword

lpo198 said:

theseaword said:

lpo198 said:

Can I play devil's advocate for a moment? There are white prostitutes as well, no? I'm sure location (know prostitute areas) has a lot to do with it as well.

What? No. Point missed.

I thought what was being discussed is that white women are not generally suspected of being prostitutes but minority women are. No?

Yes. Of course there are white prostitutes. That's why it is super racist that this woman was suspected of being a prostitute for kissing her husband in a car. This would not have happened to a white woman in the
same circumstance.

lp0

theseaword said:

lpo198 said:

theseaword said:

lpo198 said:

Can I play devil's advocate for a moment? There are white prostitutes as well, no? I'm sure location (know prostitute areas) has a lot to do with it as well.

What? No. Point missed.

I thought what was being discussed is that white women are not generally suspected of being prostitutes but minority women are. No?

Yes. Of course there are white prostitutes. That's why it is super racist that this woman was suspected of being a prostitute for kissing her husband in a car. This would not have happened to a white woman in the
same circumstance.

Ok that's what I thought. So I was making the point that since there are white prostitutes as well that couldn't this have happened because the area is frequented by prostitutes and not because she's black.

For example, my cousin (blonde white male) was picking up a football teammate in the projects for practice. A cop came up and started questioning him because he thought he was in the projects to buy drugs. When my cousin refused to show ID the cop pulled him out of the car and threw him on the hood of the car. He ended up letting him go but WTF?

In this case it was because he was parked outside of the projects. If he was outside of middle-upper class neighborhood that probably wouldn't have happened. So my response was could it be that it was because of location and not due to race? If it was an area frequented by prostitutes and a white girl was stratteling a man making out in a car that it could also be assumed she was a prostitute.

(I will say that it was likely due to race but like I said, playing devil's advocate and saying that maybe other circumstances could be factors).

theseaword

fredalina said:

lpo198 said:

theseaword said:

lpo198 said:

theseaword said:

lpo198 said:

Can I play devil's advocate for a moment? There are white prostitutes as well, no? I'm sure location (know prostitute areas) has a lot to do with it as well.

What? No. Point missed.

I thought what was being discussed is that white women are not generally suspected of being prostitutes but minority women are. No?

Yes. Of course there are white prostitutes. That's why it is super racist that this woman was suspected of being a prostitute for kissing her husband in a car. This would not have happened to a white woman in the
same circumstance.

Ok that's what I thought. So I was making the point that since there are white prostitutes as well that couldn't this have happened because the area is frequented by prostitutes and not because she's black.

For example, my cousin (blonde white male) was picking up a football teammate in the projects for practice. A cop came up and started questioning him because he thought he was in the projects to buy drugs. When my cousin refused to show ID the cop pulled him out of the car and threw him on the hood of the car. He ended up letting him go but WTF?

In this case it was because he was parked outside of the projects. If he was outside of middle-upper class neighborhood that probably wouldn't have happened. So my response was could it be that it was because of location and not due to race? If it was an area frequented by prostitutes and a white girl was stratteling a man making out in a car that it could also be assumed she was a prostitute.

(I will say that it was likely due to race but like I said, playing devil's advocate and saying that maybe other circumstances could be factors).

What happened to your cousin and what happened to her are both illegal because location and race do not add up to probable cause or reasonable suspicion.

Seriously, this is the example you provide of police acting reasonably?

The fact that the cops concluded that the only reason for a white man to be in the project was drugs is..wait for it ... Racist.

lp0

theseaword said:

fredalina said:

lpo198 said:

theseaword said:

lpo198 said:

theseaword said:

lpo198 said:

Can I play devil's advocate for a moment? There are white prostitutes as well, no? I'm sure location (know prostitute areas) has a lot to do with it as well.

What? No. Point missed.

I thought what was being discussed is that white women are not generally suspected of being prostitutes but minority women are. No?

Yes. Of course there are white prostitutes. That's why it is super racist that this woman was suspected of being a prostitute for kissing her husband in a car. This would not have happened to a white woman in the
same circumstance.

Ok that's what I thought. So I was making the point that since there are white prostitutes as well that couldn't this have happened because the area is frequented by prostitutes and not because she's black.

For example, my cousin (blonde white male) was picking up a football teammate in the projects for practice. A cop came up and started questioning him because he thought he was in the projects to buy drugs. When my cousin refused to show ID the cop pulled him out of the car and threw him on the hood of the car. He ended up letting him go but WTF?

In this case it was because he was parked outside of the projects. If he was outside of middle-upper class neighborhood that probably wouldn't have happened. So my response was could it be that it was because of location and not due to race? If it was an area frequented by prostitutes and a white girl was stratteling a man making out in a car that it could also be assumed she was a prostitute.

(I will say that it was likely due to race but like I said, playing devil's advocate and saying that maybe other circumstances could be factors).

What happened to your cousin and what happened to her are both illegal because location and race do not add up to probable cause or reasonable suspicion.

Seriously, this is the example you provide of police acting reasonably?

The fact that the cops concluded that the only reason for a white man to be in the project was drugs is..wait for it ... Racist.

Because I'm sure the cops never approached a black man sitting in a car outside the projects because they suspected they were there to buy drugs, right......

I'm not arguing that this particular incident was not race related, it probably was (and I believe it was). What I'm saying is that there can be other contributing circumstances as well.

Eta- also I never once said the cops were acting reasonably. Don't put words in my mouth

cashnchange

fredalina said:

So does this change things/opinions? https://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/09/15/django-actress-daniele-watts-lapd-race-card-fame-audio

Not if it comes from TMZ.

Our local news station posts tmz like it's a valid source. I die a little every time.

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