dairy & soy

QOTR

Perhaps I should ask this on the BFing board, but I wanted to start with my regular ladies first. 

For those avoiding dairy & soy, do you avoid soy lecithin or just soy in its more "true" forms?   I've been avoiding dairy for over three weeks, and while LO appears to feel better, there is still mucus in his stool.  The pedi's office is now advising that I eliminate soy and I'm seeing mixed messages on whether soy lecithin is ok.    Also, the pedi's initial advice was to just avoid dairy in it's true form and that greek yogurt was good to eat.   I'll ask this if I don't see any improvement after eliminating/decreasing soy, but I'm wondering if I need to also get more aggressive in eliminating dairy in all its forms.  Lastly, if the baby appears to be feeling well and is gaining weight on target, is having mucus in the stool ever ok?   Surely it is a sign that something is amiss in the digestive process?

chknma

I eliminate all dairy and soy. Some can tolerate soy lecithin. It did take about 6 weeks for me to see 100% improvement in LO's stool. There is a good MSPI check in on the bf board and hose ladies are great at answering questions.

ns1

From what I've read eliminating soy lecithin when eliminating soy is typically not necessary; however I have no personal experience as LO seems to handle all soy ok. Good luck!

pistolpackinmomma

I would cut the yogurt too. If the only issue is a little mucous in the stool then I think you're doing fine. I get mucous in my poop sometimes... Our pedi actually said most everyone gets at least a little in their poop. It's not always a sign that something is amiss.

giggler25

I was told by DD's pedi to eliminate all dairy (I.e. anything containing or made with milk) and all soy incl soybean oil and soy lecithin. The truth is that some people react to those soy derivatives and some do not. However, my DD had trace amounts of blood in her poop in addition to the mucous. It does take about 5 weeks or so for all the milk and soy protein to work its way out of your and your LO's system, but I definitely see improvement after being on the MSPI diet for about 9 weeks now. Since her poop is now clear I am trying to slowly introduce soy lecithin and soybean oil back in first to see if she has a reaction. I probably would then try baked milk products?

Good luck! +1 to joining the MSPI check in on the BF board; those ladies are great!!!

CamrynnsMommy

I've been advised to only cut obvious forms of dairy and soy, which I've done for the past 10+ weeks. We still have mucousy stools, but all the other issues have resolved. My pedi said mucous isn't so much concerning, but rather blood and mucus. BF babies use BM more efficiently, therefore all that's left to excrete is mucous.

I've read on MSPI Mama that you don't need to avoid soy lechtin, but no actual advice.

Meg&Austin

Beside mucousy stools did any of your lil ones have extremely loose stools? I know breastfed babes have loose stools but this is like pool in the diaper and not really any more curds

QOTR

Thanks for the feedback everyone.   I never realized how many products have soy or at a minimum soy lecithin in them.  

@meg&austin, my LO's poop has always been very liquidy, but the Pedi saw one and said it looked fine.  

yepyepsms

My first had green mucousy stools with occasional blood until about 6 mos. I did Mspi until about 4 mos until we did an allergy panel and it came back he wasn't allergic to anything. He was gaining and happy so doc wasn't concerned.

QOTR

@smdukes‌ , how do they do the allergy panel on babies?

springbeduk2

Meg&Austin said:

Beside mucousy stools did any of your lil ones have extremely loose stools? I know breastfed babes have loose stools but this is like pool in the diaper and not really any more curds

No curds in my LO's diaper anymore either. I've been off dairy and most soy (ate a few things with soy oil or soy lecithin) for a month. Don't know if that's the cause of no curds or if its just her getting older though the change did start at same time as I changed my diet. Her poop is very runny but always was. Hard to say if its more so now. Its also way less frequent - 0-3 per day instead of more like 8. Less spitup too.

LeeLee86

My Ped allergist said soy litchin and soybean oil are ok for the CMPA diet which usually illuminates soy as a precaution. If you LO is truly allergic to soy it may be different. Both forms do not pass enough if the soy protein into the food to be an issue. My DD has liquid poo for 2 months then turned green then all mucus then blood. I thinks it's all an indication if it's consistent enough.
One Greek yogurt has twice the amount of protein as a glass of milk. So I'm not sure what your Ped is talking about...I would cut out ALL dairy including those hidden in food like whey, milk powders, butters, casein and lactose. It takes about 2-4 weeks for it to get out of your system if you're BF but longer like PPs have said for LO

QOTR

Thanks @LeeLee86 and others.  I've cut out the yogurt and the majority of soy and for a day, there was no mucus.  There was some again yesterday however.    But as you've all said, I think more time is needed to fully eliminate it from our systems.   His 4 month appointment is still two weeks away, so hopefully by then we will see a more noticeable improvement or at least be able to get more guidance from the pedi. 

QOTR

thanks!  

I have noticed that he seems to feel better since I eliminated the obvious dairy.   He used to act like he had gas / stomach pains in the evenings where he would stiffen up and cry after eating.   So I think he has a slight intolerance at least.   However, all of the input here is making me a little less concerned about the mucus.  Especially since it's more sporadic now.    I'll talk to my pedi more at his 4 month checkup.