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update and vent (long)

Today has been epic, in pretty much the worst ways possible. This is long and kind of a downer, sorry. I knew this AM it was going to be a BFN and the blood draw confirmed it. Unfortunately at this point, we have to go back to the RE and decide what's next. We think we want to continue but it depends what he says and what the cost is. IUI is only 50% covered, IVF 0%. We desperately want Alexa to have a sibling but this is taking a serious emotional tool (not to mention time and finances) on our family, which I am sure you understand. I hate the fact that I do everything I am supposed to stay healthy and I can't get pregnant to save my life. I feel like a complete failure as a wife. And this has put a huge strain on our relationship as well. We are really torn at this point. I am also so sick and tired of people telling me to just "not stress" or "let go and nature will take it's course" or my favorite "I know it will happen for you". Again, I know some of you have said these things and I do appreciate them. But the sad reality is my ovaries don't do what they are supposed to on their own. So getting pregnant without medical intervention would be a fucking act of God. To top it off, I got the call from the nurse while I was with my sister, who then basically had no response (seriously, not even I'm so sorry or a hug) when I told her. Then I took Alexa to the park and we went down a slide. I think one of her feet/legs got caught because she screamed in pain for a almost 30 minutes. Took her to the ped who isn't sure what the issue is (no obviously swelling, deformity, or injury but she won't bear weight). So now we have to wait till the AM and see how she is and possibly take her for XRays.
So, the current plan is to start birth control because on top of all of this the RE is out the rest of this week and next and they don't want me in some pattern of funky cycles. So I have to call in the AM to schedule a consult appt and then go from there. I hope your day has been better than mine!
Me: 34 Unexplained IF, DH: 31, no issues

3 cycles of Clomid Jan-March 2012
3x BFN
IUI #1 Sept 2012 BFN
IUI #1 Oct 2012 (10/11/12) BFP!
Beta #1 10/26 313
Beta #2 10/29 1450
Beta #3 11/1 4202
U/S #1 11/13
Baby Girl born 7/3/13!!!

And now we begin again...
RE Consult 2/25
Baseline Bloodwork and U/S 3/4
Had a 22mm follicle on the R, getting ready to O on my own...BFN
AF 4/6, CD11 testing done 4/16
3 follies right (largest 18), 1 left (11.8). Lining 7.16
starting Estrace 4/16, trigger 4/16 with IUI likely 4/18

Re: update and vent (long)

  • So many ((hugs)). Life can be so damn unfair. I'm so sorry.

    I hope Alexa is feeling better by morning. Poor kiddo :( it's so easy to catch a sneaker on slides!

    Have you and your DH thought about maybe seeing a therapist to get to a better emotional place? Maybe it could give you some time to save for IVF (if that's what you decide)?

    Please don't blame yourself. You've done nothing wrong and you are not failing as a wife. We all have a path to walk, some people just have it easier in some ways while others have their own battles.
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    TTC# 1 since 5/10
    Me:34 Type 1 Diabetes, Ankylosing Spondylitis, Hypothyroid DH:35 Perfect
    DX: Unexplained IF
    Many IUI's with various meds all BFFN
    IVF #1 11/11 canceled due to OHSS
    IVF #2 Feb/March 2012 ET of 2 on day 3 4/7 BFP! 5/1 u/s blighted ovum
    IVF #3 July 2012 ET of 3 on day 3 7/24 BFP!
    Healthy baby girl born at 36w4d on 3/9/13

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    IVF #4 May/June 2014 ER 6/4 18R 8M 8F ET 6/9 1 blast, 2 frosties
    Beta 6/18 BFFN

    FET of 2 blasts 7/24...BFP!
    Healthy baby girl born at 36w3d on 3/17/15

    TTC#3
    IVF #5 June 2018- PGS planned, no surviving embryos
    IVF #6 August 2018- ET of 2 on day 3 - Chemical pregnancy
    IVF #7 August 2019-....?
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  • I am so sorry this is happening to you. I completely understand wanting a sibling for your LO and it totally sucks not to be able to do that the easy way.

    I hope Alexa feels better tomorrow.

    Hugs Mama! xoxo
    Married July 2011; TTC since April 2011; DX: MFI
    IVF #1 in August 2012: BFP!
    L was born on May 5, 2013, 8lb. 6oz.
    PAIF/SAIF welcome!

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  • Big hugs. What a crappy day.
    TTC with PCOS since November 2009
    IUI#1 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP, m/c
    IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
    IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
    beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
    beta #2 11/28 = 2055
    Our daughter E was born 7/29/2012!
    Surprise, our 2nd daughter P was born 5/22/14!
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  • I am so sorry. Big hugs.
    Dx: Unexplained Infertility

    TTC #1 
    IUI's #1 - #3 Clomid = BFN's, IUI #4 Follistim = BFP
    Grayson arrived via emergency c-section on 7/28/12!

    TTC #2 
    IUI's #1 - #4 Follistim = BFN's
    IVF #1 w/ ICSI + PGS: Lupron/Follistim/Menopur
    ER 4/13 - 19R, 13F, 4 PGS tested embryos, 1 normal
    5/14 FET: BFP. Beta #1: 123, Beta #2: 327, Beta #3: 854
    Cora arrived 1/23/15 via RCS!
  • I'm sorry about your BFN. I hope your daughter is better tomorrow!


    TTC#1 for 19 months with PCOS and MFI IUI#3 + injectables = BFP!!!!  Beta#1-134(13dpiui) Beta #2-392(15dpiui) 
    #1 born December 2011
    TTC#2 - Beta #1 -51@10dpo Beta#2 -1353 @16dpo
    #2 born May 2013
    TTC # 3 June 2014 BFP 12-1-14
    #3 born August 2015 
    #4!!!!!!! due June 2017 
  • thanks everyone. it's so much to digest and (like we all know) not a place we ever thought we would be. i really am clueless of timing, costs, etc of IVF. i never paid attention because i thought i didn't need to. it's frustrating that it only took 2 IUI cycles with Alexa. we're just going to get through tonight, see what tomorrow brings, and go from there. 
    Me: 34 Unexplained IF, DH: 31, no issues

    3 cycles of Clomid Jan-March 2012
    3x BFN
    IUI #1 Sept 2012 BFN
    IUI #1 Oct 2012 (10/11/12) BFP!
    Beta #1 10/26 313
    Beta #2 10/29 1450
    Beta #3 11/1 4202
    U/S #1 11/13
    Baby Girl born 7/3/13!!!

    And now we begin again...
    RE Consult 2/25
    Baseline Bloodwork and U/S 3/4
    Had a 22mm follicle on the R, getting ready to O on my own...BFN
    AF 4/6, CD11 testing done 4/16
    3 follies right (largest 18), 1 left (11.8). Lining 7.16
    starting Estrace 4/16, trigger 4/16 with IUI likely 4/18
  • lots of hugs! Hope tomorrow is a better day for you and Alexa.
    TTC since 10/2008  RE consult 6/2010 Dx:Unexplaied IF

    Failed multiple cycles of Clomid+TI and Clomid+IUI

    3/2011 inj+IUI #1 BFP. 4/2011 missed m/c. 

    Fall 2011 inj+IUI #2&3 BFN

    Jan/Feb 2012 IVF#1 BFP 2/23  EDD 10/31/2012 ~~~ Halloween ~~~

    Our IVF miracle, Baby Boy M, arrived on 11/8/2012!
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  • Hugs. I hope Alexa is feeling better in the morning.
    ~TTC since July 2010~
    CD3 Bloodwork:Normal 
    HSG-Clear 
    SA:Low Morph 
    IVF with ICSI #1: ER 12/16 (4 ER/3 Mature/0 Fertilized) 
    IVF with ICSI #2: ER 5/17 (4 ER/4 Mature/3 Fertilized)/ET 5/20 (2 embryos transferred)-BFN 
    IVF with PICSI #3: ER 9/8 (11 ER/8 Mature/7 Fertilized)/ET 9/13 (2 AA blastocysts transferred) 
    Beta#1, 9/26/12: 719 Beta#2, 9/28/12: 1,436 Beta#3, 10/1/12: 3,446
    1st u/s on 10/10/12: It's Twins! We found out on 12/16/12 that we were having two BOYS!
    C & D were born on 5/16/13 at 10:46 am and 10:47 am


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  • I wish that I could jump through my computer and hug you. Your post hit home on SO many levels. My situation is different in that we are MFI - but I know my husband feels many of the exact things you expressed, and for many reasons it kills me to hear it. Mostly because its obsurd. I don't love him any less because we can't have a baby with a roll in the hay....and I'm sure your husband feels the same, so please - don't for one second think you're a failure of a wife. I am sending you huge, huge hugs.


    "I won't give up on us, even if the skies get rough, I'm giving you all my love, I"m still looking up."
    TTC #1 since August 2011 MFI Diagnosis - April 2012
    IVF #1 - July 2012 - Stims start 7/2, ER 7/12, 20 retrieved, 16 mature, 13 fertilized!
    ET - 7/17 - 1 blast transferred. Beta - 7/26 273, Beta 2 7/30 - 1143. Beta 3 8/6 - 11,597
    12/25 - Santa tells us "IT'S A GIRL!" EDD - April 4th

    Our Little Easter Bunny has arrived!

    Molly Mildred born 03/31/13


    TTC A Sibling....... FET #1 11/14/14, Transferred one beautiful blast

    Remaining four frosties arrested due to "embryologist error"

    Plllllleasssee stick little icicle.....Beta 11/23...BFN

    Starting ALL over with a fresh IVF cycle

    Stims start 11/28/14, ER December 10th, 13 eggs retrieved, 11 mature, only 4 fertilized 

    1 Blast Transferred on December 15th..... Beta Christmas Eve... Please Santa, bring me a baby!

    Beta #1 345.....Beta #2....750/ First U/S 1/13/15/HB 131....EDD 9/2/2015

  • Sending hugs, I've been in that place and I am sorry you are there right now. I hope tomorrow is a better day. 
    TTC since August 2009
    Clomid for 6 cycles starting August 2010- O but no BFP
    SA Septemeber 2010 Looking good 
    HSG September 2010 All clear 
    1st RE visit May 2011 - IUI#1 June 20, 2011: BFN
    IUI #2 July 31 2011: BFP - m/c @ 5w1d
    Surprise BFP on a break cycle 10/4/11, Due June 4, 2012, Born 6/9/2012
    TTC Blog
    TTC#2 : Cycles 1-3 Protocol 1500mg Metformin Daily, Femara + Ovidrel, Progresterone support 
    HSG#2 November 2013 All clear
    Cycle 4 Metformin, Femara, Bravelle, Ovidrel, Progesterone = BFP
    Little Lady Born 8/28/2014
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    the beauty of love as it was made to be"
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  • Sending big hugs your way, MK. I was wondering how you were doing but didn't want to pry. It's really disappointing that what worked before isn't working this time around so far. I totally understand the helplessness and feeling of banging your head against a wall with unexplained IF when you don't even know why it's not working or the best way to fix it. 

    Have these IUIs been with injects or with Clomid/Femara? I hope your RE will be able to add some clarity and insight and come up with a good plan for you. In the long run it is possible a single IVF could be more economical or similar in price to multiple rounds of IUI, even if they're partially covered. On the other hand, if you haven't been doing injects with IUI (but I think maybe you were?), that could be a good middle ground option to give a try. 

    Sorry IF has been adding stress to your marriage lately. It is so beyond your control and has nothing to do with your worth as a woman, wife, etc. You are a wonderful mom doing the very best you can. Please don't be so hard on yourself. Also, that sucks that your sister showed no compassion. I've been there when a close family member or friend acts totally apathetic about a treatment failure that hurts a lot and it really sucks that they don't get it at all. 

    I hope Alexa wakes up as good as new in the morning and that today will be a much better day. Let us know how it goes with her.

    IUIs #1-3 (1x unmedicated, 2x Clomid) = 2 BFNs, 1 m/c at 7w3d
    IUIs #4-6 (injects) = 3 BFNs
    IVF #1 = BFN
    FET #1 = BFN
    FET #2 = BFN
    IVF #2 = BFP, b/g twins lost at 20w due to partial abruption/PPROM
    IVF #3 = c/p 5w2d
    Long-shot Clomid/Prednisone cycle before next IVF = BFP, our beautiful, healthy girl born 6/26/13!
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    TTC again March 2014
    FET #3 - May/June 2014
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    all embryos arrested before xfer - back to the drawing board...
    IVF #4 - July/August 2014 
    beta 1 (11dp3dt) 220, beta 2 (13dp3dt) 671, beta 3 (19dp3dt) 10762
  • (((Huge hugs))) :(

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    IVF #1 September 2012, beta #1: 213; beta #2: 580. Expecting Twins! 
    EDD 6/9 lost one angel at 9w3d :( 
    Baby boy arrived 6/1/13
    FET #1 10/14, BFP -Chemical Pregnancy :(
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    So sorry about such a crappy day :(  And I hope Alexa's leg is better this am.  Hugs to you!!

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    Trying for #1 since May 2010   l   DX ~ Unexplained Infertility June 2011

    IUI #1&2 = BFN; IUI #3 = BFP, m/c @ 6 weeks

    November '11 ~ IVF#1 ~ ER 11/18 (29R, 17F) ~ 5dt of one beautiful blast on 11/23 = BFP!!

    Beta #1 9dp5dt = 116, P4 = 28 ~ Beta #2 13dp5dt = 700 ~ Beta #3 20dp5dt = 9500, P4 = 26

    1st u/s 12/27 - hb of 156!! EDD 8.10.12 :)   **TEAM GREEN!**

    Sweet baby boy born 8.18.12

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    Trying for #2

    FET #1 - October '13 - c/p   l   FET #2 - December '13 - cancelled :(   l   FET #2.2 - 1.30.14 - BFN

    ~ More testing - hysteroscopy, endometrial biopsy & more b/w - all normal / negative~

    Surprise BFP while waiting on FET #3 ~ beta #1 500; beta #2 1600; first u/s 4/3 - measuring 5w5d, no hb yet!; 2nd u/s 4/10 - hb 132, measuring 6w6d - EDD 11.29.14 :)    **TEAM GREEN!**

    Beautiful baby girl born 11.24.14

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  • Thanks ladies! All your responses really do mean a lot to me, and I am so grateful to have an amazing group of women that get it. I think for now I'm going to arm myself with lots of info - DH and I talked last night about what we are comfortable with, money, etc. We did take Alexa for X-rays this morning because she still isn't walking or bearing weight well on her right leg. No obvious breaks or injuries which is good, so now we are just waiting to hear back from the ped.
    Me: 34 Unexplained IF, DH: 31, no issues

    3 cycles of Clomid Jan-March 2012
    3x BFN
    IUI #1 Sept 2012 BFN
    IUI #1 Oct 2012 (10/11/12) BFP!
    Beta #1 10/26 313
    Beta #2 10/29 1450
    Beta #3 11/1 4202
    U/S #1 11/13
    Baby Girl born 7/3/13!!!

    And now we begin again...
    RE Consult 2/25
    Baseline Bloodwork and U/S 3/4
    Had a 22mm follicle on the R, getting ready to O on my own...BFN
    AF 4/6, CD11 testing done 4/16
    3 follies right (largest 18), 1 left (11.8). Lining 7.16
    starting Estrace 4/16, trigger 4/16 with IUI likely 4/18
  • MJC1116MJC1116 member
    edited August 2014
    In so sorry you are feeling this way. I can relate all to well to your feelings of self worth and guilt. But please try to tell yourself that this is not your fault. Hugs! Hope your little lady is feeling better.

    Edit: because my phone likes to make contractions out of regular words
    DH & I: 29
    TTC #1 4/2009 -  DD 2/5/10
    TTC #2 since October 2011
    2IF issues
    7/2013 - IUI #1: 50 units Follistim +  Ovidrel  = BFN
    8/2013 - IUI #2: 50 units Follistim +  Ovidrel  = BFP! Beta #1 (12 dpiui) 8/21: 45  Beta #2 (16 dpiui) 8/26: 301 Beta #3 (21 dpiui) 8/30: 1,929. 1st Ultrasound 9/4 - One perfect sac. 2nd Ultrasound 9/13 - Heartbeat at 124 bpm! Anniversary  

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  • BabyKsMommyBabyKsMommy member
    edited August 2014
    I could have written this post a few months ago. It took 2 IUIs to conceive DS. We also are 50% for IUIs and OOP for IVF. I ended up doing 11 more medicated cycles trying for a sibling for DS. Not all of them ended in IUI because I didn't respond well to injects. I did 3 clomid cycles, which is what I got pg with before. I did 5 menopur cycles but I think only 1 or 2 ended in an IUI. I then tried Femara because DH isn't comfortable with the money aspect of IVF. The second try worked. There were times during that process where I told dh, how I didn't know if I wanted to do treatments anymore. I'm glad I pushed on but honestly I was just going through the motions. We deal with mfi but I don't blame dh at all for our issues. We are in this together, it's our issue. I hope As leg gets feeling better. And you do too! Sorry for wall of text, I'm on my iphone, blah
    Diagnosed MFI- low sperm count  
    DS-Born 7/27/11 After 2 years of IF we have our little man
    TTC#2 January 2013
    11 Medicated cycles gave us
    B/G Twins born 10/8/14 @ 32 weeks
  • Hugs mama. IF is such a roller coaster of emotions. I hope your appt goes well and you have peace about next steps. We are here for you.
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  • Hugs. I'm right there with you on TTC. I've never gotten pregnant before without IVF. I do everything I'm supposed to. Giant pain in the heart. More hugs.
    TTC Since 3/2010
    Me-36, Unexplained Infertility, DH-35, all clear
    Clomid 50mg 12/2011 = BFN
    Clomid 100mg 1/2012 = BFN, with Cyst
    IVF #1 Lupron/Menopur/Gonal-f/HCG Trigger
    ER 4/19/12 = 11 retrieved, 6 fertilized,
    ET 4/22/12 = 2 transfered (day 3), remaining 3 weren't good enough to freeze
    Beta 5/3 = BFP, 87 Beta #2 5/7 560.9 Beta #3 5/9 1376.5 First u/s One Baby, 125bpm!
    Second u/s, 176bmp! Kicked over to the OB by the RE at 8w. Team Green!! 
    Baby girl J arrived two weeks early! Born into water, med-free. Hooray for Team Pink!

    TTC #2 - back to the RE, treatment started 12/2014. 

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  • I'm sorry that is a bad day! I hope your lo is healthy with no broken bones and just had an ouch that freaked her out. Hopefully they come up with a new plan of action to get those ovaries going :) Hang in there!

    Married: 5/09 ~ TTC Since: 10/10 ~ PCOS ~ Progesterone from 10/10 - 2/11 ~ HSG on 3/18 - Clear ~ Started Metformin 1000mg & Clomid 50mg 2/11 ~ Metformin upped to 1500mg 4/6 ~ 6/7 Now going to SG and put on Clomid, Ovidrel, Gonal F, Prometrium, Estrace ~ IUI #1 7/2 = BFP!!!!!! March 6th our little man was born. 

    6/17/13 - Ovidrel, Follistim, Prometrium ~ IUI #1 7/2 = BFP! March 17th our St. Pattys day baby arrived

    10/29/17 - Started process for IVF, got pregnant & miscarried a 2nd time since summer. 2/22 started stims - Menopur, Gonal F, Cetrotide - retrieval 3/6 - , PIO, estrace 3xday - FET 4/18 = Beta 1: 616; Beta 2: 1342 = BFP 

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