Trouble TTC

Setting limits with your IF brain ;)

Anyone else sometimes feel like you need to self impose limits on how much you are allowed to go online and look at all things IF related??  Including posting on this board?  I am starting to feel that way and wondered if anyone else has those limits in place.  Thought it was an interesting question to pose  :)

I don't mean to say that I think posting/reading on this board is a BAD thing.  On the contrary, this community has been a great source of support and made me feel so much less alone in the IF journey.  But sometimes I get so "in my head" with the IF stuff and this board sometimes becomes part of the obsession (LOL).  For instance, I usually view 3T from my mobile phone (I don't post/respond as often as I'd like because it's such a pain posting from my phone!).  And I will often throughout the day refresh the 3T page to see what new topics are trending.  Who is where in their treatment cycle.  Who recently got a BFP (I love seeing those).  And any other topics of interest.  But just recently I'm starting to notice that I spend SO much of my free time lurking 3T that maybe it's a little unhealthy!  Anyone else ever feel that way?  

I just think that the IF journey in general sometimes makes me feel like I'm losing my sense of self.  Thoughts/feelings/actions are usually driven by IF and I sometimes think "Who am I?  When did I become this person??"  Not sure if I'm even making any sense here!  It's the smallest things that add up to make me feel like this.  The fact that I've given up alcohol and caffeine in my 2WW used to be hard but are actually now just normal things I do!  But I used to love running ...can't anymore because my RE highly recommended I find other cardio activities.  I used to get really excited about going shopping for clothes ...doesn't interest me anymore (looking at adorable baby clothes on the other hand ...haha).  I used to be an avid reader ....have barely read any books (and when I have, they've been fluff that just wasn't satisfying).  I started taking guitar lessons in January and actually was doing pretty well with picking up the chords!  And I was loving it.  Well ever since I did my first IUI in April, I've completely abandoned it.  I feel like I'm progressively rambling here but just trying to get a sense whether other people can relate on this!  
**Formerly EastBayBride508**

Me 34   Him 33

Me - Left salpingo-oophorectomy at 19 due to large cyst/torsion  and 2 large uterine fibroids found at age 30
Him - Borderline low sperm count (correcting through Fertility Blend supplement)

Married 8/20/2011
TTC #1 since Jan 2013
First appointment with RE 10/2013.  
April 2014 - Clomid 100mg CD3-7.  HCG shot CD10 IUI #1 done on 4/12/14 (CD12) ....BFN
May 2014 - Break cycle to repeat saline sonogram and re-group.  Travel to Kauai 5/7-5/12 (Yay!!)
June 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD4-8.  HCG shot CD14.  IUI#2 done on 6/9 and 6/10 (CD15-16) w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW .... BFN
July 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD3-7.  Ultrasound CD12 - 4 mature follies! HCG trigger shot CD12 AM.  IUI#3 on CD13 w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW ....BFN
July 2014 - Repeat ultrasound done to measure size of fibroid - 8x9cm (the size of a grapefruit!) Surgery referral made.
August 2014 - MRI done which revealed 2 fibroids: a 13x15cm fibroid as well as an 8x7cm one.  Super freak out mode over surgery plan.  OB-GYN/surgeon said surgery would most likely have to be a laparotomy (open abdominal surgery)
August 2014 - After a 2nd opinion, plan to take Lupron x 2 months to shrink fibroids then laparoscopic/robotic myomectomy.  Surgery date is set for Nov 21st!  
November 2014 - Robotic myomectomy done (2 large fibroids removed, mild endo found).  Benched x 3 months

PAIF/SAIF welcome

Re: Setting limits with your IF brain ;)

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  • Sometimes I'll take a weekend break from TB so I'm not living and breathing IF all the time. That usually seems to help. But then I worry I'm missing out on people's updates that you like to follow. So by Sunday night, I'm back. I only google or look at IF content beyond this site when I absolutely have to...b/c that's definitely a black hole


    Me 33, DH 37 -- TTC since Jan'12 -- Low AMH (0.78) & endo, SA w/ low motility
    IUI's 1-3 = BFN, IVF converted to IUI 4/13 = BFN
    IVF 1.2: 8R 6M 4F -- 2 blastocysts frozen, FET 8/15 = BFP!!
    Beta #s = 445;1,098; 9,545  -- EDD 5/2 -- Team Pink!
    Camila Josephine arrived 4/30 :)
  • Thanks for your responses ladies! @kmdecoux - I totally feel you on the sense of relief in knowing that others are going through the same thing! I haven't been at it as long as you but still ...it has just made me feel so much better realizing that we are all going through similar struggles and that we don't have to do it alone! I think that's why it's hard for me to set limits with myself. This place truly is an amazing safe haven for those of us dealing with IF. But there's a big part of me that doesn't want to allow IF to define me and/or control all my thoughts/feelings. I know, that's easier said than done! But I just want to believe that there's more to life than having a baby ....that other things (that are more within my control) are worthy of my time. Other things that can bring me joy or fulfill me in various ways. I'm just starting to firmly believe that the amount of time I spend online (here and elsewhere just googling symptoms, looking up success stories) is not healthy.
    **Formerly EastBayBride508**

    Me 34   Him 33

    Me - Left salpingo-oophorectomy at 19 due to large cyst/torsion  and 2 large uterine fibroids found at age 30
    Him - Borderline low sperm count (correcting through Fertility Blend supplement)

    Married 8/20/2011
    TTC #1 since Jan 2013
    First appointment with RE 10/2013.  
    April 2014 - Clomid 100mg CD3-7.  HCG shot CD10 IUI #1 done on 4/12/14 (CD12) ....BFN
    May 2014 - Break cycle to repeat saline sonogram and re-group.  Travel to Kauai 5/7-5/12 (Yay!!)
    June 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD4-8.  HCG shot CD14.  IUI#2 done on 6/9 and 6/10 (CD15-16) w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW .... BFN
    July 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD3-7.  Ultrasound CD12 - 4 mature follies! HCG trigger shot CD12 AM.  IUI#3 on CD13 w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW ....BFN
    July 2014 - Repeat ultrasound done to measure size of fibroid - 8x9cm (the size of a grapefruit!) Surgery referral made.
    August 2014 - MRI done which revealed 2 fibroids: a 13x15cm fibroid as well as an 8x7cm one.  Super freak out mode over surgery plan.  OB-GYN/surgeon said surgery would most likely have to be a laparotomy (open abdominal surgery)
    August 2014 - After a 2nd opinion, plan to take Lupron x 2 months to shrink fibroids then laparoscopic/robotic myomectomy.  Surgery date is set for Nov 21st!  
    November 2014 - Robotic myomectomy done (2 large fibroids removed, mild endo found).  Benched x 3 months

    PAIF/SAIF welcome
  • @gsancho - Sounds like you have a pretty healthy balanced approach! I'm still constantly lurking on weekends lately. Good idea to take the weekend off. I'm gonna try that this coming weekend :)
    **Formerly EastBayBride508**

    Me 34   Him 33

    Me - Left salpingo-oophorectomy at 19 due to large cyst/torsion  and 2 large uterine fibroids found at age 30
    Him - Borderline low sperm count (correcting through Fertility Blend supplement)

    Married 8/20/2011
    TTC #1 since Jan 2013
    First appointment with RE 10/2013.  
    April 2014 - Clomid 100mg CD3-7.  HCG shot CD10 IUI #1 done on 4/12/14 (CD12) ....BFN
    May 2014 - Break cycle to repeat saline sonogram and re-group.  Travel to Kauai 5/7-5/12 (Yay!!)
    June 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD4-8.  HCG shot CD14.  IUI#2 done on 6/9 and 6/10 (CD15-16) w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW .... BFN
    July 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD3-7.  Ultrasound CD12 - 4 mature follies! HCG trigger shot CD12 AM.  IUI#3 on CD13 w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW ....BFN
    July 2014 - Repeat ultrasound done to measure size of fibroid - 8x9cm (the size of a grapefruit!) Surgery referral made.
    August 2014 - MRI done which revealed 2 fibroids: a 13x15cm fibroid as well as an 8x7cm one.  Super freak out mode over surgery plan.  OB-GYN/surgeon said surgery would most likely have to be a laparotomy (open abdominal surgery)
    August 2014 - After a 2nd opinion, plan to take Lupron x 2 months to shrink fibroids then laparoscopic/robotic myomectomy.  Surgery date is set for Nov 21st!  
    November 2014 - Robotic myomectomy done (2 large fibroids removed, mild endo found).  Benched x 3 months

    PAIF/SAIF welcome
  • I understand what you are saying. I have been on here more since I finished the school year and have some time to myself, but I don't really read much IF related outside of the bump so I don't think it's too much. I do think that I find myself thinking about baby related stuff and there are constant reminders of what I don't have yet wherever I am. I also like to see where others are and I like to post welcomes for the other new people a lot.

    I do try to enjoy my evenings with my DH and try not to think about it or talk about appointments and stuff during our dinner/evening time. I hardly am on during the weekends since my DH and I usually do fun things or I'm visiting family. I think it's hard to not think about IF related stuff because it's such a big part of my life at the moment and I just want to be pregnant so much!

    Anyway, I think it's good you are recognizing that you've let some of your favorite things go but you should pick those activities back up! I too love reading and it really helps me to not think about IF stuff since I'm focused on something else!
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    Me: 26 DH: 27
    TTC #1 Since Aug. 2013
    Cycle 1: O CD 25=bfn
    Cycle 2: O CD 48=bfn
    Cycle 3: Anovulatory/Provera =120 days!
    Cycle 4: Anovulatory/Prometrium=127 days! RE consult 6/16
    Me: Anov/poss. pcos?  HSG=normal/SA= Normal 
    July/Aug. 2014= Femara+trigger+TI=BFP!!
    Beta #1@ 16dpo=626!! Beta #2=1510
    Ultrasound @ 5w6d=heartbeat at 110!
    Ultrasound @ 6w6d =heartbeat at 131!


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  • yes! and part of me is just trying to stop thinking about it all the time, because even the stress of that can cause me to not ovulate...ugh! I hear ya totally
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    Married 6/2010
    TTC since Nov 2013 (no BC since Feb 2013)
    DX: Annovulation
    SA: excellent
    HSG: normal
    Treatment: Clomid 50 mg (NR); 100 mg (NR); 150 mg (NR);
    July 2014 200 mg Clomid w/ good response
    7-19-14 Ovidrel trigger w/ scheduled intercourse on 7/19 and 7/20
    7-24-14 pregnancy symptoms started
    7-31-14 pregnancy symptoms increasing
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    8-3-14 (just to make sure lol) BFP!!
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  • Oh I agree, I know IF has taken over completely and I struggle to find a way to back away from it. Sometimes I am better at it than other times. I have taken a couple of breaks from it to de-stress. So cumulatively it has been 4 years, but it's actually been three of actively trying. And even on the months we weren't trying, we weren't not trying if that makes any sense. We just weren't tracking anything. I know that when we are done with the 4 IUI's my RE is comfortable doing that we will have to decide whether to put ourselves in debt doing IVF, or move on with our lives and let go. I hope that if the time comes when I have to let go that I will do it with dignity and grace instead of curling into a ball and crying for a year. I'm thinking about making DH take me to Mexico or something after IUI #4 if it doesn't work.

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    Me: 31| DH: 36
    TTC #1 Since 07/2010
    DX: Unexplained Infertility
    TX: 
    IUI #1 on 7/3/14 100 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI (44 million sperm, 1 dominant follie) = BFN
    IUI #2: on 7/28/14 100 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI (23 million sperm, 2 dominant follies) = BFN

    IUI #3 on 8/22/2014 100 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI (53 million sperm, 2 dominant follies)= BFP MMC @ 7weeks


  • kmdecoux said:
    Oh I agree, I know IF has taken over completely and I struggle to find a way to back away from it. Sometimes I am better at it than other times. I have taken a couple of breaks from it to de-stress. So cumulatively it has been 4 years, but it's actually been three of actively trying. And even on the months we weren't trying, we weren't not trying if that makes any sense. We just weren't tracking anything. I know that when we are done with the 4 IUI's my RE is comfortable doing that we will have to decide whether to put ourselves in debt doing IVF, or move on with our lives and let go. I hope that if the time comes when I have to let go that I will do it with dignity and grace instead of curling into a ball and crying for a year. I'm thinking about making DH take me to Mexico or something after IUI #4 if it doesn't work.
    I don't like thinking of the possibility that I may ever have to let go but I have thought about it too!  I completely agree with your sentiments on that.  
    **Formerly EastBayBride508**

    Me 34   Him 33

    Me - Left salpingo-oophorectomy at 19 due to large cyst/torsion  and 2 large uterine fibroids found at age 30
    Him - Borderline low sperm count (correcting through Fertility Blend supplement)

    Married 8/20/2011
    TTC #1 since Jan 2013
    First appointment with RE 10/2013.  
    April 2014 - Clomid 100mg CD3-7.  HCG shot CD10 IUI #1 done on 4/12/14 (CD12) ....BFN
    May 2014 - Break cycle to repeat saline sonogram and re-group.  Travel to Kauai 5/7-5/12 (Yay!!)
    June 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD4-8.  HCG shot CD14.  IUI#2 done on 6/9 and 6/10 (CD15-16) w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW .... BFN
    July 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD3-7.  Ultrasound CD12 - 4 mature follies! HCG trigger shot CD12 AM.  IUI#3 on CD13 w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW ....BFN
    July 2014 - Repeat ultrasound done to measure size of fibroid - 8x9cm (the size of a grapefruit!) Surgery referral made.
    August 2014 - MRI done which revealed 2 fibroids: a 13x15cm fibroid as well as an 8x7cm one.  Super freak out mode over surgery plan.  OB-GYN/surgeon said surgery would most likely have to be a laparotomy (open abdominal surgery)
    August 2014 - After a 2nd opinion, plan to take Lupron x 2 months to shrink fibroids then laparoscopic/robotic myomectomy.  Surgery date is set for Nov 21st!  
    November 2014 - Robotic myomectomy done (2 large fibroids removed, mild endo found).  Benched x 3 months

    PAIF/SAIF welcome
  • I have been feeling this way a LOT lately ever since switching to IVF. MH is sick of me talking about it, but I feel like it runs my life sometimes. I just try to zone out on some reality TV occasionally with some wine (but I still find myself hitting pause button to check something online). And lately I dream about IF every fucking night.
    OMG, I do this too!  It's like some critical question suddenly occurs to me and I mute the TV to find out the answer that second (something I never used to do during The Bachelorette ...my guilty pleasure haha).  
    **Formerly EastBayBride508**

    Me 34   Him 33

    Me - Left salpingo-oophorectomy at 19 due to large cyst/torsion  and 2 large uterine fibroids found at age 30
    Him - Borderline low sperm count (correcting through Fertility Blend supplement)

    Married 8/20/2011
    TTC #1 since Jan 2013
    First appointment with RE 10/2013.  
    April 2014 - Clomid 100mg CD3-7.  HCG shot CD10 IUI #1 done on 4/12/14 (CD12) ....BFN
    May 2014 - Break cycle to repeat saline sonogram and re-group.  Travel to Kauai 5/7-5/12 (Yay!!)
    June 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD4-8.  HCG shot CD14.  IUI#2 done on 6/9 and 6/10 (CD15-16) w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW .... BFN
    July 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD3-7.  Ultrasound CD12 - 4 mature follies! HCG trigger shot CD12 AM.  IUI#3 on CD13 w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW ....BFN
    July 2014 - Repeat ultrasound done to measure size of fibroid - 8x9cm (the size of a grapefruit!) Surgery referral made.
    August 2014 - MRI done which revealed 2 fibroids: a 13x15cm fibroid as well as an 8x7cm one.  Super freak out mode over surgery plan.  OB-GYN/surgeon said surgery would most likely have to be a laparotomy (open abdominal surgery)
    August 2014 - After a 2nd opinion, plan to take Lupron x 2 months to shrink fibroids then laparoscopic/robotic myomectomy.  Surgery date is set for Nov 21st!  
    November 2014 - Robotic myomectomy done (2 large fibroids removed, mild endo found).  Benched x 3 months

    PAIF/SAIF welcome
  • I have kind of the opposite feeling...we spent 5 years not really facing the infertility that is such a big part of our lives and who we are. It is a relief to me to find a voice as a member of an IF board. :)

    I'm guessing that if this IF drags on too much longer, I will probably feel the need to back away from it for a while and focus on other areas. But I find that focusing on IF is helping me develop better coping and patience.

    Sometimes I realize that I've taken a couple days off from TB but it's just automatic, without realizing it, because I was involved in other things, and I am glad of that too. :)
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    MFI (low everything) | Endo Stage 1 & Stenotic Cervix (treated) | PCO
    Married - July 2008 | Started TTC - Jan 2009RE Visit #1 - Mar 2014 
    IUI #1 ICI #1 - June | IUI #1.1 Laparoscopy - Aug
    IUIs #1.2, 2, 3 - Sept, Oct, Nov (Letrozole) - BFNs 
    IUI #4 - Dec (Bravelle) | IUI #5 - Dec/Jan (Bravelle) - 5 follies + TI - BFNs
    IUI #5.1 - Jan (Bravelle) Cancelled 
    Planning to start IVF in March!
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  • I know that sometimes I'm on here too much but dammit I feel so alone IRL. I have to paste a smile on my face every day and pretend I'm not suffering and here I can face the reality and just connect for once. I constantly check the bump on mobile at work and escape into the bathroom to get time without interruptions. I'm obsessed with having some control over IF and being on here also makes me feel like I have a modicum of it.

    Missed M/C natural cycle 10/2013

    DX PCOS 3/2014

    2 cycles Clomid 50 mg + Ovidrel + TI

    1 cycle Clomid 50 mg + TI - no response stair-stepped to Clomid 75 mg + Ovidrel + TI

    1 cycle Clomid 50 mg + Ovidrel + IUI

    1 cycle Letrozole 7.5 mg + 150 mg Follistim + Ovidrel + TI

    1 cycle Letrozole 7.5 mg + 150 mg Folistim + Ovidrel + IUI

    1 cycle Letrozole 7.5 mg + 150 mg Follistim  - no response, repeated Letrozole 7.5 mg + 150 mg Follistim + Ovidrel + IUI = success! 12/2014

    Beta 1 - 15 dpiui, 324, Beta 2 - 17 dpiui 750. Twins!!

    My Blog: pcosandpizza.blogspot.com


  • jennym25jennym25 member
    edited July 2014
    I have found myself more into tb within the last couple of weeks as I geared into this month iui. I've been a lurker for a while but not wanting to share with friends and family just yet makes me go a little crazy and feel better when I read that I'm not alone. My husband is very supportive but he still doesn't really understand what goes in in my mind. I have tried to keep the IF thoughts to a limit but it's hard when I can't talk to my family and friends. I'm glad that 3T is here and I get to read about some of the experiences that I may have already been through or will be going through and know I'm not the only one that is in this crazy ride.

    Me (29), DH (38)

    Oct 2009   - Married
    Aug 2011   - Started TTC
    Jan 2012   - OB Referred to RE
    Feb 2012   - RE Visit #1
    Apr 2012   - HSG (Normal), PCOS - DH SA (low count and low motility)  
    June 2012   - Provera, Clomid, TI - BFN
    July 2012   - IUI #1, Provera, Clomid 50mg, Trigger Injection - BFN
    Aug 12 - Feb 14 - Break
    Feb 2014   - New OB referred to new RE
    Mar 2014   - New RE visit #1
    Apr 2014    - TSH  level elevated, need to retest.
    May 2014   - TSH retested, higher than 1st test. Start on Synthroid. DH SA (Normal)
    June 2014   - Start on DHEA, CO-Q10, New brand of Prenatals
    July 2014   - Cycle came on its own, b/w on CD2, TSH (normal), Femara CD3-CD7, CD14 - u/s + Ovidrel + baby aspirin regimen. IUI #1 B2B on CD15/16 - BFN

    August 2014 - u/s on CD3 normal, Femara CD3-CD7, u/s CD12, Ovidrel on CD13. IUI #2 B2B on CD 14/CD15 - BFN.

    September  2014 - u/s on CD3 normal, Femara CD3-CD7, u/s scheduled for CD12

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  • i totally understand where you're coming from.  I've only been on the site a few days and can already feel the obsession growing, especially while at work.
    Me: 31 (PCOS) possible right tube issues DH: 36 (SA normal) 
    Started dating in 2006, Married 2012 
    TTC since November 2013 
    First RE visit due to irregular periods: June 2014
    Lap/Hysto to remove polyps, cyst and tube blockage 11/6
    Cycle 1 (Dec. 2014) TI with Clomid, Trigger, & Progesterone CX due to no response
    Impatiently Waiting CD1 to try again with Fermara Back on the bench due to giant cyst,
    who know I'd ovulate on my own after a cancelled cycle and end up with a mega cyst :(
    All Welcome
     
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  • Rcvb22 said:
    @rainbowbridge14‌ how long have you been going to therapy? I've actually been seriously considering it. MH and I got in a heated discussion yesterday about my IF obsession lately. He's really worried about me and feels it's really taking over. He's totally supportive and loving, but sometimes he says things that he thinks will help me see a more positive way of looking at things but it comes out as very insensitive. For example I want him to just listen and say "I understand honey, it will be ok" instead he's like "you have to stop comparing yourself to everybody"...he's saying it to try and help me bc he knows I'm hurting, but it drives me mad! Anyway, I'm wondering if maybe a therapist will help me deal with the stress of it all and not have it take over. Is anyone else seeing a therapist for IF?
    @rainbowbridge14 - I'm glad you are seeing the therapist and finding it beneficial in coping with IF!

    @Rcvb22 - I just wanted to say that I can totally relate in having a husband who is more relaxed about these things and doesn't always say the right thing.  If I get upset about something IF related, he'll say "You need to stop getting so worked up over the smallest things.  It's not good for you"  He doesn't mean to minimize my feelings but it pisses me off when he says something like that!  
    **Formerly EastBayBride508**

    Me 34   Him 33

    Me - Left salpingo-oophorectomy at 19 due to large cyst/torsion  and 2 large uterine fibroids found at age 30
    Him - Borderline low sperm count (correcting through Fertility Blend supplement)

    Married 8/20/2011
    TTC #1 since Jan 2013
    First appointment with RE 10/2013.  
    April 2014 - Clomid 100mg CD3-7.  HCG shot CD10 IUI #1 done on 4/12/14 (CD12) ....BFN
    May 2014 - Break cycle to repeat saline sonogram and re-group.  Travel to Kauai 5/7-5/12 (Yay!!)
    June 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD4-8.  HCG shot CD14.  IUI#2 done on 6/9 and 6/10 (CD15-16) w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW .... BFN
    July 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD3-7.  Ultrasound CD12 - 4 mature follies! HCG trigger shot CD12 AM.  IUI#3 on CD13 w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW ....BFN
    July 2014 - Repeat ultrasound done to measure size of fibroid - 8x9cm (the size of a grapefruit!) Surgery referral made.
    August 2014 - MRI done which revealed 2 fibroids: a 13x15cm fibroid as well as an 8x7cm one.  Super freak out mode over surgery plan.  OB-GYN/surgeon said surgery would most likely have to be a laparotomy (open abdominal surgery)
    August 2014 - After a 2nd opinion, plan to take Lupron x 2 months to shrink fibroids then laparoscopic/robotic myomectomy.  Surgery date is set for Nov 21st!  
    November 2014 - Robotic myomectomy done (2 large fibroids removed, mild endo found).  Benched x 3 months

    PAIF/SAIF welcome
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