TTC After a Loss

**** Weekend Crazy Train ****

This is a thread posted daily for any of us who need to get out our frustrations about waiting to O, the 2WW, or vent about our cycles.

If you find yourself checking FF obsessively, MF is getting the best of you, or you just want to pee on all things, let it out here! In order for the conductors to be better able to help you, please make sure you either have a FF chart link in your sig, or make sure you post a link.

Don't chart? You should consider it, not only will it give you a lot more insight to your cycles, but conductors will be able to answer a lot of your questions just by looking at your chart!

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Take a step back from the board, test again with FMU, and good luck!
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Crazy level from 1-10: CD/DPO:

Can I just ______ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms:

Explain your Crazy here:

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Operative hysteroscopy to remove septum 9/18/13.
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Re: **** Weekend Crazy Train ****

  • Hey Red! Looks like a quiet train this weekend.

    Crazy level from 1-10: CD/DPO: CD14 or CD27, take your pick

    Can I just __?____ already?!:

    Signs/Symptoms:   n/a

    Explain your Crazy here:

    I'm going to throw a lot of dates at you because FF does not like short cycles.

    I had a definite CD1 on June 9th. On CD12 of that cycle, I got a +OPK. That's a totally normal range for me to O, so, so far so good. The next day, I started spotting. I then spotted for 7 days with one or two days being heavier than what I consider my normal spotting.  I then had my temp drop to pre-O temps a couple days into that spotting. I ended up changing one of the days to light flow which reset me at CD1 (on CD14 of the first June cycle).

    So, I'm either CD 14 now or CD27.  I kind of said screw it to temping with the move and did not do OPKs.  I'm really not sure if I did have a 14 day cycle, if this was just weird, random spotting, or what. I also know you really can't tell me anything since I stopped temping with the move and really short sleep hours.

    But your train was empty . . .
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  • @buggirl72 I've been baffling over your chart(s) and I don't even know what to tell you. So just (((HUGS))) from me. Maybe RT will have some other insights when she wakes up.

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    TTC since March 2012 
    BFP #1 1/29/13, EDD 10/9/13 
    MMC discovered at 10 weeks (baby measured 9 weeks) D&C on 3/16/13 
    BFP #2  CP on 3/31/14
    BFP #3  8/11/14  EDD 4/22/14
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  • Oh bug. I've been stalking you and I honestly have no idea. I wish I could help. :( **kicks bug's ovaries** maybe that'll help? ((((((Hugs))))))

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    TTC #1 since Sept 2011
    BFP#1 1/31/12. Empty sac discovered 3/5/12. MTX due to location in uterine horn.
    BFP#2 2/27/13. Empty sac confirmed 3/20/13. Mifepristone + Cytotec.
    Operative hysteroscopy to remove septum 9/18/13.
    BFP #3 12/24/13. Natural m/c 1/17/14.
    BFP #4 3/20/14. Natural m/c 4/3/14.

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  • @buggirl72‌ 14 or 27?! That's like the worst mind game ever. I'm so sorry your chart is all over the place. :( hoping it gets back on track soon!

  • I may need to hop on board.

    Crazy level from 1-10: 5

    CD/DPO: 19 / 5 DPO

    Can I just understand my temps already?!:

    Signs/Symptoms: no sore breasts post O this time?

    Explain your Crazy here: So this is my first cycle after AF.  Before the mc, my temps always have gotten up to 98.5 ish post O.  Right now they have been hovering around the high 97s.  I wasn't even sure I ovulated at first this cycle since I tend to have a bigger jump in temps right away - I went from 97.11 to 97.36 this cycle, so DH and I kept trying until FF gave me the red lines.

     I switched to a Mabis/Relion thermometer for the last two cycles since the Nexcare one did not go to a 100th of a degree.  Regardless, it confuses me that my temps are so much lower the past two cycles (I charted for about halfway through the mc cycle - temps got up to 98.0 but that was the highest).  I also tend to notice very sore breasts each cycle starting about 3 DPO or so, but they don't feel any different this cycle (did notice them the mc cycle).

    The only thing I can think of is now that it's summer, I'm wearing less to bed, and fan/ac going vs. in the winter wearing a sweatshirt to bed, multiple covers etc. 

    Anyways, maybe the temp differences are nothing, but I just needed to let it out. Thanks ladies.

     Chart link (the open circles are from having to get up earlier than usual): https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4c9889

    If it's a different thermometer, that could account for the change.  It does look like you O'd even though your temps aren't as high as usual.  It looks like more of a slow rise, but it will probably continue to go up some more.  I'm not sure about the lack of sore breasts, sorry!

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    My Ovulation Chart
    TTC since March 2012 
    BFP #1 1/29/13, EDD 10/9/13 
    MMC discovered at 10 weeks (baby measured 9 weeks) D&C on 3/16/13 
    BFP #2  CP on 3/31/14
    BFP #3  8/11/14  EDD 4/22/14
  • @buggirl72 - So sorry, I don't even have advice, Just (((hugs)))

    Crazy level from 1-10: 6-7

    CD/DPO: CD 31/DPO 12

    Can I just _get AF _ already?!:

    Signs/Symptoms: You know the deal. Sore boobs. Occasional cramps. Pissy mood.

    Explain your Crazy here: I'm out for the month...broke down and POAS yesterday, and got a BFN. So much for good timing (I know, just a 30% chance anyways). And it would be so lovely for AF to show already because it would be lovely for the cramps to stop. But she'll probably stall until Wed 'cause she's a bitch. Sigh. -- And as an added insult, the Scotch I bought yesterday to try tastes like Bourbon....wait, that's one for First World Wednesdays... wahhh wahhh
    I'm sorry for the BFN :(  Hopefully AF doesn't make you wait too long.  Big ((((HUGS))))

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    My Ovulation Chart
    TTC since March 2012 
    BFP #1 1/29/13, EDD 10/9/13 
    MMC discovered at 10 weeks (baby measured 9 weeks) D&C on 3/16/13 
    BFP #2  CP on 3/31/14
    BFP #3  8/11/14  EDD 4/22/14
  • Crazy level from 1-10: CD/DPO: 37/5

    Can I just ______ already?!: understand what its going on

    Signs/Symptoms: none.

    Explain your Crazy here: I hate this thread only because I feel insecure.  I like to pretend I always know whats going on, but I don't. I know last week I address this, and I know that post loss things will be different.  Looking at my chart, I still think I O'ed on CD 16, rather then 19. Would you be so kind to tell me your thoughts?  IDK why I want to argue with the chart. 

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    TTC-8/2013   BFP-4/18/14  EDD: 12/29/12 MC-5/17/14 @ 7w4d
    BFP #2-11/13/14  EDD: 7/26/14  Beta #1: 11/14/13 (135 progesterone: 19.5)   Beta #2" 11/17/14 (733 ) 
    Hoping for good news!

    Everyone Welcome

  • Crazy level from 1-10: CD/DPO: 37/5

    Can I just ______ already?!: understand what its going on

    Signs/Symptoms: none.

    Explain your Crazy here: I hate this thread only because I feel insecure.  I like to pretend I always know whats going on, but I don't. I know last week I address this, and I know that post loss things will be different.  Looking at my chart, I still think I O'ed on CD 16, rather then 19. Would you be so kind to tell me your thoughts?  IDK why I want to argue with the chart. 
    That is a tough one because your CM and temps don't really match up.  I would think CD 19 but your CM seems to suggest CD 16.  Were you still using OPKs at that point?  Did you ever get a positive?

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    My Ovulation Chart
    TTC since March 2012 
    BFP #1 1/29/13, EDD 10/9/13 
    MMC discovered at 10 weeks (baby measured 9 weeks) D&C on 3/16/13 
    BFP #2  CP on 3/31/14
    BFP #3  8/11/14  EDD 4/22/14
  • I didn't ever get a full positive but I was using expired ones from march.  I used them everyday but stopped recording them when ladies on here told me that they probably wouldn't be accurate.  I am ordering a new bunch soon. 

    I was thinking the same thing about the CM and the temps matching up.  oh well, we will have to see what happen!

    Thanks for checking for me.

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    TTC-8/2013   BFP-4/18/14  EDD: 12/29/12 MC-5/17/14 @ 7w4d
    BFP #2-11/13/14  EDD: 7/26/14  Beta #1: 11/14/13 (135 progesterone: 19.5)   Beta #2" 11/17/14 (733 ) 
    Hoping for good news!

    Everyone Welcome

  • I didn't ever get a full positive but I was using expired ones from march.  I used them everyday but stopped recording them when ladies on here told me that they probably wouldn't be accurate.  I am ordering a new bunch soon. 

    I was thinking the same thing about the CM and the temps matching up.  oh well, we will have to see what happen!

    Thanks for checking for me.
    Yes, I think unfortunately you will just have to wait and see.  Sorry, it's annoying when our charts are unclear, I know!

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    My Ovulation Chart
    TTC since March 2012 
    BFP #1 1/29/13, EDD 10/9/13 
    MMC discovered at 10 weeks (baby measured 9 weeks) D&C on 3/16/13 
    BFP #2  CP on 3/31/14
    BFP #3  8/11/14  EDD 4/22/14
  • I may need to hop on board.

    Crazy level from 1-10: 5

    CD/DPO: 19 / 5 DPO

    Can I just understand my temps already?!:

    Signs/Symptoms: no sore breasts post O this time?

    Explain your Crazy here: So this is my first cycle after AF.  Before the mc, my temps always have gotten up to 98.5 ish post O.  Right now they have been hovering around the high 97s.  I wasn't even sure I ovulated at first this cycle since I tend to have a bigger jump in temps right away - I went from 97.11 to 97.36 this cycle, so DH and I kept trying until FF gave me the red lines.

     I switched to a Mabis/Relion thermometer for the last two cycles since the Nexcare one did not go to a 100th of a degree.  Regardless, it confuses me that my temps are so much lower the past two cycles (I charted for about halfway through the mc cycle - temps got up to 98.0 but that was the highest).  I also tend to notice very sore breasts each cycle starting about 3 DPO or so, but they don't feel any different this cycle (did notice them the mc cycle).

    The only thing I can think of is now that it's summer, I'm wearing less to bed, and fan/ac going vs. in the winter wearing a sweatshirt to bed, multiple covers etc. 

    Anyways, maybe the temp differences are nothing, but I just needed to let it out. Thanks ladies.

     Chart link (the open circles are from having to get up earlier than usual): https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4c9889


    Hmm, that's tricky. I can only see your current chart. It does look like you O'ed, but if wonder if maybe you could have O'ed a day or 2 later than ff says right now. Maybe your temp will get higher? I wouldn't read too much into the temp differences. I've been charting for 3 years and usually my temps are in the same range, but sometimes they're not and I can't explain it. Easier said than done, I know, but I wouldn't be too concerned. I wonder if you're maybe only 3 dpo today and maybe your boobs will start hurting soon? I dunno. I also usually have a very clear boob soreness pattern but there have been a few cycles where they've hurt a lot less. I dunno, I wish I had all the answers! Sorry I don't :( ((((hugs))))

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    TTC #1 since Sept 2011
    BFP#1 1/31/12. Empty sac discovered 3/5/12. MTX due to location in uterine horn.
    BFP#2 2/27/13. Empty sac confirmed 3/20/13. Mifepristone + Cytotec.
    Operative hysteroscopy to remove septum 9/18/13.
    BFP #3 12/24/13. Natural m/c 1/17/14.
    BFP #4 3/20/14. Natural m/c 4/3/14.

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  • Thanks @LaRomana09 I appreciate it.  I figured it was because of the change of thermometers.  I may have to bust out the old one to test this theory, but that's probably taking my crazy a little too far.

    @jjbmstinco I noticed on your chart you have the same temp recorded for 3 days in a row from CD17-19.  One of the other reasons I switched thermometers was because my Nexcare would sometimes do this - 'get stuck'.  I'm wondering if that affected your chart.  

    Maybe. I notice it does this at different times of the month.  I have the nextcare one as well. It gets its self unstuck somehow. 

    I wonder if I play with my chart if it would move me back to CD 16.

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    BFP #2-11/13/14  EDD: 7/26/14  Beta #1: 11/14/13 (135 progesterone: 19.5)   Beta #2" 11/17/14 (733 ) 
    Hoping for good news!

    Everyone Welcome

  • Hey Red!! Miss you. I think I O'd way way early. That's my claim to crazy. CM is gone and I'm just now entering my "FW". This confirms that I need to be temping and properly charting. I feel like a naughty dog right now. You've been telling me for how many months? I'm off to Amazon right now to look at better BBT.  LOVE YOU!

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    BFP 9/15/14 EDD 5/28/15 Please be our R A I N B O W take home baby BOY
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  • @buggirl72 how frustrating! I have no help for you, just an ear to vent to. 

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     and GBCB

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    BFP 8/2/12 EDD 4/9/13 Addie was delivered 1/4/13 at 26 weeks due to Eclampsia  

    BFP 9/15/14 EDD 5/28/15 Please be our R A I N B O W take home baby BOY
    Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers

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    ~All AL always welcome~

     

     


  • Poppy715 said:
    Hey Red!! Miss you. I think I O'd way way early. That's my claim to crazy. CM is gone and I'm just now entering my "FW". This confirms that I need to be temping and properly charting. I feel like a naughty dog right now. You've been telling me for how many months? I'm off to Amazon right now to look at better BBT.  LOVE YOU!

    ****waves frantically**** HI POPPY!! Yeah well I won't say I told you so....lol jk love but yeah temping is great for when your body is being a butthead. Hope you figure it out soon. Xoxo. ((Hugs))

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    BFP#1 1/31/12. Empty sac discovered 3/5/12. MTX due to location in uterine horn.
    BFP#2 2/27/13. Empty sac confirmed 3/20/13. Mifepristone + Cytotec.
    Operative hysteroscopy to remove septum 9/18/13.
    BFP #3 12/24/13. Natural m/c 1/17/14.
    BFP #4 3/20/14. Natural m/c 4/3/14.

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  • Thanks for the heads up @Greeneyes842

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    BFP #2-11/13/14  EDD: 7/26/14  Beta #1: 11/14/13 (135 progesterone: 19.5)   Beta #2" 11/17/14 (733 ) 
    Hoping for good news!

    Everyone Welcome


  • Poppy715 said:

    Hey Red!! Miss you. I think I O'd way way early. That's my claim to crazy. CM is gone and I'm just now entering my "FW". This confirms that I need to be temping and properly charting. I feel like a naughty dog right now. You've been telling me for how many months? I'm off to Amazon right now to look at better BBT.  LOVE YOU!



    ****waves frantically**** HI POPPY!! Yeah well I won't say I told you so....lol jk love but yeah temping is great for when your body is being a butthead. Hope you figure it out soon. Xoxo. ((Hugs))

    I know!! :(( shame on me. I should know better. Miss you terribly.

          THE DARK SIDE IT IS

     and GBCB

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    BFP 8/2/12 EDD 4/9/13 Addie was delivered 1/4/13 at 26 weeks due to Eclampsia  

    BFP 9/15/14 EDD 5/28/15 Please be our R A I N B O W take home baby BOY
    Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers

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    ~All AL always welcome~

     

     


  • qanda2013 said:
    Hi, girls! I'm so irritated. The spotting before my cycle has gotten out of hand. I started spotting at 7 dpo and have almost every day since. It is just pink so I shouldn't log it into ff as AF right? Last cycle it was 3 days before and heavier spotting, is this something worth mentioning to my OB?
    If it's just pink, I wouldn't enter it as AF, just as spotting like you have been.  I would always err on the side of mentioning things to your OB.  Sorry, that is really frustrating.

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    My Ovulation Chart
    TTC since March 2012 
    BFP #1 1/29/13, EDD 10/9/13 
    MMC discovered at 10 weeks (baby measured 9 weeks) D&C on 3/16/13 
    BFP #2  CP on 3/31/14
    BFP #3  8/11/14  EDD 4/22/14
  • @qanda2013‌ I totally understand. I never had spotting until after my loss. Now it's days of it. Look at my FF chart. It's so frustrating. Now because of all the spotting AF is maybe 3 days,maximum. It's so weird. Sorry it's driving you crazy. Tell your ob but I do t think there's much she can do about it.

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     and GBCB

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    BFP 8/2/12 EDD 4/9/13 Addie was delivered 1/4/13 at 26 weeks due to Eclampsia  

    BFP 9/15/14 EDD 5/28/15 Please be our R A I N B O W take home baby BOY
    Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers

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  • Crazy level from 1-10: pretty low, maybe a 4

    CD/DPO: CD technically 10, but thats counting D&C day as CD1

    Can I just __?____ already?!: Can I just stop having HCG in my system already? I know, I know, it's not even 2 weeks.

    Signs/Symptoms:   n/a

    Explain your Crazy here: I just really want AF to come back so I can actually TTC. I'm super impatient. I'm so type A and I had it set in my brain that I was going to have a baby in January and it's making me crazy now that even IF I get pregnant immediately after my 1st cycle, and IF it's a healthy pregnancy, I won't have a baby till May/June. I need to realize these things can't be planned....
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    DS2 born 2/22/13
    MMC 5/16/14@8w2d
    DD due 5/9/15 Please be our
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