UO Thursday

Beckyboo71

Robs Baby Girl said:

I've been bashed on FB for this one, and it will probably happen here as well, but Illegal Aliens seriously piss me off. It probably comes from working in the medical field and doing surgeries on Patients that cost close to $100,000 while border Patrol agents sit outside their rooms for days. Who pays for their care? Oh that's right, working, tax paying Americans. It seriously pisses me off. Oh and then there's the times I've been in accidents (not my fault, i was rear ended) with people who are undocumented with no license and no insurance. Now I'm all pissed all over again. Thanks for letting me vent my UO.

Here in California, they passed a bill where undocumented immigrants can get driver's licenses now. I know the US is always trying to help people, but I always think that if I am living in France, for argument's sake, illegally, there is no way in hell that they will give me anything!

nmrd

Robs Baby Girl said:

"Who are these undocumented immigrants who are given more care or aid than citizens? Just curious. My assumption is that most citizens have a lot of advantages that undocumented immigrants don't."

Children and teens brought to Lackland will be provided with education, foster care programs, and "behavioral treatment centers." The projected cost of such programs, as well as the cost of the housing, has not been disclosed to U.S. taxpayers. The federal government was forced to utilize Lackland as its own facilities can no longer accommodate the number of illegal immigrants waiting to be processed, reports state. At the Rio Grande Valley (RGV) sector alone, more than 1,000 illegal immigrants are being apprehended per day. This is from our local paper.

I'm having a hard time following this. You said that undocumented immigrants are receiving benefits that citizens aren't. Aren't citizens' children also provided with education, foster care programs, and behavioral treatment centers if their parents are detained?

thumper7912

I guess my UO is if something isn't harming your child and helps sooth them (paci,BF) then why take it away.  As long as it isn't harming you or your child.  I once heard something that always stuck with me, "if everyone is happy, why change something because of society?"  This was in direct relations to what you are doing with your LO.  Like co sleeping, crib sleeping, paci, bottles, BFing. etc. 

Ktbug613

TXUltraRunner said:

Maternity clothes are HIDEOUS and I'm not looking forward to buying them. 

Where have you looked? not sure what your style is, there are some horrible pieces out there but some of it can be cute when paired right. 

Beckyboo71

I don't like seeing children on leashes. My child has been wild since birth, and I kept her strapped in her stroller till she was practically 5 (LOL)....and believe me, I've wanted to put her on a leash several times, but I just could never bring myself to do that. If I was Kate Gosselin, I may have a different opinion, but with just one...come on! Control your kid and pay attention!

nmrd

Robs Baby Girl It sounds like what you're talking about here is costs incurred in order to apprehend, guard, take away the children of, adjudicate, etc. undocumented immigrants rather than care for them.

thumper7912

TXUltraRunner said:

Maternity clothes are HIDEOUS and I'm not looking forward to buying them. 

I never really purchased maternity in my first pregnancy.  I did buy maternity tanks.  But I don't think you HAVE to buy maternity clothes.

atrinh11

My UO is that I hate spas. I have only been to a full-service spa once, and it was the most uncomfortable experience ever. I would only agree to getting a mani/pedi because everything else weirded me out. Totally not my scene, and I feel like I am alone in that.

TXUltraRunner

Ktbug613 said:

TXUltraRunner said:

Maternity clothes are HIDEOUS and I'm not looking forward to buying them. 

Where have you looked? not sure what your style is, there are some horrible pieces out there but some of it can be cute when paired right. 

Motherhood Maternity was the WORST. Then I looked at Gap, Old Navy and I can't afford Pea in the Pod but they had a few things I liked. I've also been stalking Zulily. Any suggestions for other places?

TXUltraRunner

thumper7912 said:

TXUltraRunner said:

Maternity clothes are HIDEOUS and I'm not looking forward to buying them. 

I never really purchased maternity in my first pregnancy.  I did buy maternity tanks.  But I don't think you HAVE to buy maternity clothes.

How did you get away with no maternity clothes? I already cant button my pants around my stomach but they still fit everywhere else. I tried my fat pants but they are just big everywhere but the waist and there's nothing worse than baggy clothes on your butt. I can't get away with wearing skirts all the time. With my job, I'm constantly rolling around on the ground in front of clients. 

liladelphia215

thumper7912 said:

I guess my UO is if something isn't harming your child and helps sooth them (paci,BF) then why take it away.  As long as it isn't harming you or your child.  I once heard something that always stuck with me, "if everyone is happy, why change something because of society?"  This was in direct relations to what you are doing with your LO.  Like co sleeping, crib sleeping, paci, bottles, BFing. etc. 

Hate to break it to you - I won't get into co sleeping, crib sleeping, and BFing, because I have my own reasons for stopping those, and don't care what others do, but prolonged use of Pacis and Bottles can lead to dental issues depending on how long you let it go on.

Maebb

Beckyboo71 said:

I don't like seeing children on leashes. My child has been wild since birth, and I kept her strapped in her stroller till she was practically 5 (LOL)....and believe me, I've wanted to put her on a leash several times, but I just could never bring myself to do that. If I was Kate Gosselin, I may have a different opinion, but with just one...come on! Control your kid and pay attention!

Lol/eye roll to "control your kid." This has been discussed. My opinion is that if a child prefers the harness to the stroller and if it keeps them from getting lost or run over, it's a good thing.

Stargirlb

Asos has some cute and inexpensive maternity clothes

YaMrWhite

thumper7912 said:

TXUltraRunner said:

Maternity clothes are HIDEOUS and I'm not looking forward to buying them. 

I never really purchased maternity in my first pregnancy.  I did buy maternity tanks.  But I don't think you HAVE to buy maternity clothes.

Whaaaa??? I absolutely couldn't get away with my regular wardrobe. No chance!

aerotigergirl

TXUltraRunner said: thumper7912 said: TXUltraRunner said: Maternity clothes are HIDEOUS and I'm not looking forward to buying them.  I never really purchased maternity in my first pregnancy.  I did buy maternity tanks.  But I don't think you HAVE to buy maternity clothes. How did you get away with no maternity clothes? I already cant button my pants around my stomach but they still fit everywhere else. I tried my fat pants but they are just big everywhere but the waist and there's nothing worse than baggy clothes on your butt. I can't get away with wearing skirts all the time. With my job, I'm constantly rolling around on the ground in front of clients. 
I was going to suggest Pea in the Pod, but they are pretty pricey. 

I'm sort of in a weird, in-between phase currently. Not yet ready for maternity clothes, definitely feeling pinched in the middle by my normal clothes. So, I went in search of something non-maternity, but more forgiving in the middle. I ended up with a cute stretchy skirt and a maxi dress, which are both perfect, and one pair of capri pants that represent my single worst style choice ever (well, considering the things I did in middle school, maybe not...). I found a pair of pants that fit in the dressing room. They were already a size up from my normal, but I thought that might be ok because they'd be a little less snug in the waist. And then I thought "Well, why not buy one more size up? They'll be comfortable for even longer, right?" WRONG. I wore them on Monday, and after sitting at my desk for an hour, they'd stretched beyond the point of recognition and now they look like clown pants. Seriously, sagging off the ass clown pants. I'm mortified, but I intend to wear them anyway because I spent money on them. 

And, now I'm desperately curious... what kind of work do you do, exactly? 

ETA: I fail at quote boxes today.

YaMrWhite

TXUltraRunner said:

Ktbug613 said:

TXUltraRunner said:

Maternity clothes are HIDEOUS and I'm not looking forward to buying them. 

Where have you looked? not sure what your style is, there are some horrible pieces out there but some of it can be cute when paired right. 

Motherhood Maternity was the WORST. Then I looked at Gap, Old Navy and I can't afford Pea in the Pod but they had a few things I liked. I've also been stalking Zulily. Any suggestions for other places?

I like H&M, Gap, and Target. I actually love my Maternity clothes and am excited to get to fit in them. I've found some great winter stuff on sale at those stores as well as Old Navy (I only get tops from their maternity section, no bottoms). My work pants are from Gap and I tried them on yesterday. Very comfy but no bump yet so I have to hold off a little longer as they look silly. 

thumper7912

TXUltraRunner said:

thumper7912 said:

TXUltraRunner said:

Maternity clothes are HIDEOUS and I'm not looking forward to buying them. 

I never really purchased maternity in my first pregnancy.  I did buy maternity tanks.  But I don't think you HAVE to buy maternity clothes.

How did you get away with no maternity clothes? I already cant button my pants around my stomach but they still fit everywhere else. I tried my fat pants but they are just big everywhere but the waist and there's nothing worse than baggy clothes on your butt. I can't get away with wearing skirts all the time. With my job, I'm constantly rolling around on the ground in front of clients. 

I wore lots of leggings and tanks with long sweaters.  And then maxis when not at work.  I think it worked well, as long as you have thick enough leggings (I hate when you can see undies in leggings!!  I feel like it's so hard to find good ones anymore!)

YaMrWhite

TXUltraRunner said:

thumper7912 said:

TXUltraRunner said:

Maternity clothes are HIDEOUS and I'm not looking forward to buying them. 

I never really purchased maternity in my first pregnancy.  I did buy maternity tanks.  But I don't think you HAVE to buy maternity clothes.

How did you get away with no maternity clothes? I already cant button my pants around my stomach but they still fit everywhere else. I tried my fat pants but they are just big everywhere but the waist and there's nothing worse than baggy clothes on your butt. I can't get away with wearing skirts all the time. With my job, I'm constantly rolling around on the ground in front of clients. 

This. Today I am actually shoved into my "period work pants" and the button area is so tight on my stomach. It is so uncomfortable. The belly bands don't work on me and never stay put so from now on until I fit my maternity work pants, its dresses or stretchy skirts. 

thumper7912

GrahamSchneider said:

thumper7912 said:

I guess my UO is if something isn't harming your child and helps sooth them (paci,BF) then why take it away.  As long as it isn't harming you or your child.  I once heard something that always stuck with me, "if everyone is happy, why change something because of society?"  This was in direct relations to what you are doing with your LO.  Like co sleeping, crib sleeping, paci, bottles, BFing. etc. 

Hate to break it to you - I won't get into co sleeping, crib sleeping, and BFing, because I have my own reasons for stopping those, and don't care what others do, but prolonged use of Pacis and Bottles can lead to dental issues depending on how long you let it go on.

But what is the line that you shouldn't or can't go past before dental issues? 1?2?  You see many more issues with thumb suckers (pacifier user will resort to this if they really need the comfort and they don't have their pacifier).  I feel as long as your kid isn't going to preschool with a pacifier, then you're ok.  

And just because I am legitimately interested, what is wrong with crib sleeping? BFing?  I do know the argument against co-sleeping. 

edit;  I'm running off to brunch with MIL but will be back  Promise! 

Pips09

Beckyboo71 said:

I don't like seeing children on leashes. My child has been wild since birth, and I kept her strapped in her stroller till she was practically 5 (LOL)....and believe me, I've wanted to put her on a leash several times, but I just could never bring myself to do that. If I was Kate Gosselin, I may have a different opinion, but with just one...come on! Control your kid and pay attention!

LOL at not liking leashes but keeping your 5 year old strapped into a stroller. That's MUCH better!

TXUltraRunner

aerotigergirl photographer. When I shoot children, I always get down on the ground with them and I also shoot adults from different angles. I've been known to climb a tree before too. 

Beauxbaton

MrsDigger10 said:

CuppyCakes721 said:

LadyXaverian said:

 My UO is that I hate Chipotle.

Shut. Up.

j/k, but really... what is to hate?! Unless you are vegetarian, but even then they have awesome options. I drive an hour just for chipotle some days.

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I hate cilantro and not a huge fan of tortillas. I mean I could probably find something there to eat if I was forced to, but its not something I will voluntarily eat.

Beauxbaton

@TXUltraRunner‌ I bought one pair of maternity jeans and a maxi skirt. Then a few tank tops. And then injist wore the tank tops with cardigans. I just didn't see the point in buying an entirely new wardrobe for essentially 5 months of my life

liladelphia215

thumper7912 said:

GrahamSchneider said:

thumper7912 said:

I guess my UO is if something isn't harming your child and helps sooth them (paci,BF) then why take it away.  As long as it isn't harming you or your child.  I once heard something that always stuck with me, "if everyone is happy, why change something because of society?"  This was in direct relations to what you are doing with your LO.  Like co sleeping, crib sleeping, paci, bottles, BFing. etc. 

Hate to break it to you - I won't get into co sleeping, crib sleeping, and BFing, because I have my own reasons for stopping those, and don't care what others do, but prolonged use of Pacis and Bottles can lead to dental issues depending on how long you let it go on.

But what is the line that you shouldn't or can't go past before dental issues? 1?2?  You see many more issues with thumb suckers (pacifier user will resort to this if they really need the comfort and they don't have their pacifier).  I feel as long as your kid isn't going to preschool with a pacifier, then you're ok.  

And just because I am legitimately interested, what is wrong with crib sleeping? BFing?  I do know the argument against co-sleeping. 

edit;  I'm running off to brunch with MIL but will be back  Promise! 

Extended BFing, Crib Sleeping, and Co Sleeping are just my personal preferences, which is why I don't argue for or against them - nothing wrong with them. Whatever works for Mom and child works for me, that's cool. We put DD in a twin bed at 18 months because DC was switching her to a nap mat and I wanted to be consistent with them and she did great and never got up. So that's what worked for us, but that may not work for everyone - so I don't argue those points.

I believe the recommendation is to try to ditch the paci by two. Really prolonged use can also lead to speech problems. Sometimes I walk into a store and see kids that have to be five with a paci. For us, we discontinued daytime use of the paci by the time DD was one and nap and night time pacis before she hit 2.5. You don't really know how or when, or if, your child may be affected, but I don't know.. why risk it?

aerotigergirl

@TXUltraRunner - AH, now this makes sense. The only thing I could picture was auto-mechanic. 

robsbabygirl08

nmrd said:

UberBiz said:

Britt1406 said:

I think they should send the children crossing the boarder back to their home country (unless they have parents here legally, which I don't know why they wouldn't already be with them). 50,000+ already and not stopping, estimating at 140k. If they want to come here, why should they be granted rights above the people who are trying to go through the legal process??

I agree. I don't mind if someone comes to the US and takes the proper steps to become a citizen (I have no idea what those steps are), but people who are in this country illegally should NOT be given care or public aid above those who ARE citizens.

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Who are these undocumented immigrants who are given more care or aid

nmrd said:

Robs Baby Girl said:

"Who are these undocumented immigrants who are given more care or aid than citizens? Just curious. My assumption is that most citizens have a lot of advantages that undocumented immigrants don't."


Children and teens brought to Lackland will be provided with education, foster care programs, and "behavioral treatment centers." The projected cost of such programs, as well as the cost of the housing, has not been disclosed to U.S. taxpayers.
The federal government was forced to utilize Lackland as its own facilities can no longer accommodate the number of illegal immigrants waiting to be processed, reports state.
At the Rio Grande Valley (RGV) sector alone, more than 1,000 illegal immigrants are being apprehended per day.

This is from our local paper.

I'm having a hard time following this. You said that undocumented immigrants are receiving benefits that citizens aren't. Aren't citizens' children also provided with education, foster care programs, and behavioral treatment centers if their parents are detained?


I'm getting confused by trying to follow all these quotes. Somebody else said that illegal immigrants shouldn't receive benefits that's citizens don't. And I think you asked who was receiving benefits.....and I just have an example from our local paper about all the aid being given to the 1000+ people coming into the country daily.

I literally have to assist in Surgeries for Illegal Immigrants on a weekly basis. And these aren't simple surgeries. Almost all of them are trauma patients and require multiple surgeries costing the government a ridiculous amount of money. I work at a Military hospital but because we are a level 1 trauma center we are required to take civilians. Then I have to read in the news about veterans having their benefits and retirement cut because the government is running out of money. The whole thing makes me irate. I feel the same way about criminals in jail. Way to much $$ spent on them.

With all that being said. I think that the system that people use to get their citizenship is a joke. There is no reason it should take years to do that. It should definitely be a more obtainable goal.

Christina_Diane

Maybe it's the connotation of the word "leash" that has people up in arms. Technically, they are called a child harness, which doesn't carry the same negative meaning. We have one and have used it once. We used it when we went to disneyland. We didn't want to coup him up in a stroller all day, so we did a combo of stroller, dad's shoulders, and holding hands. The harness was for when he wanted a bit more freedom. It worked well for us.

Lanatir

CuppyCakes721 said:

My UO is that I hate Chipotle.

I could not agree more!  I have gotten sick every time I ate there.  I also get stabby at their claims of being "natural" and all this supposed "good for the environment" crap.  Sorry, but their company refuses to use grass fed beef from Texas and imports from Australia.  How is that good for the environment?  And the plain term "natural" has no actual guidelines or regulations by USDA or the FDA.

Beauxbaton

Lanatir said:

CuppyCakes721 said:

My UO is that I hate Chipotle.

I could not agree more!  I have gotten sick every time I ate there.  I also get stabby at their claims of being "natural" and all this supposed "good for the environment" crap.  Sorry, but their company refuses to use grass fed beef from Texas and imports from Australia.  How is that good for the environment?  And the plain term "natural" has no actual guidelines or regulations by USDA or the FDA.


I saw a funny video about the use of the word natural. But I'll admit, I use the world natural as a guideline for some products. Cause I find some things labeled "natural" have less ingredients. At least peanut butter and jelly do.

Ktbug613

TXUltraRunner said:

Ktbug613 said:

TXUltraRunner said:

Maternity clothes are HIDEOUS and I'm not looking forward to buying them. 

Where have you looked? not sure what your style is, there are some horrible pieces out there but some of it can be cute when paired right. 

Motherhood Maternity was the WORST. Then I looked at Gap, Old Navy and I can't afford Pea in the Pod but they had a few things I liked. I've also been stalking Zulily. Any suggestions for other places?

pea in the pod prices are ridiculous! have you looked at pinkblush? its online only so thats a bit of a pain but their stuff is pretty cute and their jeans and what not remind me of pea in the pod but better prices. Their stuff is also often on zulily...there was a post with a list a while back Ill see if I can find it.

TXUltraRunner

I will totally put my kid on a leash because I've always thought it was awesome. If it weren't considered child abuse, I'd put it in a kennel too. Kids scare me when they start climbing out of their cribs and wandering around. Wish you could just put a top on the crib and solve that problem. But society says that bad LOL 

liladelphia215

The Chipotle talk reminds me of my UO.





I hate cilantro.

Lanatir

SassyMommaC said:

We transitioned DD1 to her toddler bed as soon as she started putting her leg over the edge of her crib. We would keep her door closed to keep her in her room (and to help block out some noise in the house). Once she started opening doors, and did so just to stay awake, we put a push button lock door knob on her door. We would only lock it until she fell asleep, then we'd go unlock it so she could get out in the middle of the night if she needed us, or in the morning. We don't use the lock anymore, but we kept it on the door because we knew she'd be sharing a room with DD2. To keep from getting locked in on accident, we use one of those cuff door stops and put it out of her reach. It also helps keep the girls from shutting their fingers in the door.

We did the same thing...  Then she learned to unlock the door.  We have the turn kind of locks.  That opened Pandora's Box because she could suddenly unlock the front door and go outside on her own...  So we had to get secondary latches up high on the door where she can't reach.

BookitBoo

Speaking of pacifiers (we call ours a chupa); my UO is that DS is 2 1/2 and still takes his chupa. We also give it to him when he isn't feeling well.

We've tried taking it away and it just hasn't happened. DH is adamant that we're making it a big deal for no reason. It soothes him and makes him comfortable.


Concerning the dental issue- I never took a chupa but I needed braces. DH, who took a chupa for about forever, has always had perfectly straight teeth. Life isn't fair. If DS needs braces when he's older it won't be the end of the world.

Unless I'm missing another reason that the chupa is unhealthy, I don't see any reason to take it away until he's ready.

DS is also very tall for his age and looks to be about a year older. He speaks all the time, and very clearly.

tarynlphillips

Christina_Diane said:

Britt1406 said:

Christina_Diane said:

In N out is hands down, by far, superior to any fast food burger chain, including 5 Guys. And now I want a double double and some fries.

I visited in Vegas and was not that impressed. I do love me some 5 Guys though. 

I think it's a west coast thing. I wasn't impressed by 5 guys, but I had grown up on In N Out. In college, the nearest one was a 2 hour drive through and over Lake Tahoe. We made that trip some weekends just for the burgers

LOVE In & Out!!!  It's the one place we don't feel like it's "fast food".  We totally had some on our way home Sunday...protein style burgers with extra whole grilled onions and animal fries.  It was pure heaven.

YaMrWhite

BookitBoo said:

Speaking of pacifiers (we call ours a chupa); my UO is that DS is 2 1/2 and still takes his chupa. We also give it to him when he isn't feeling well. We've tried taking it away and it just hasn't happened. DH is adamant that we're making it a big deal for no reason. It soothes him and makes him comfortable. Concerning the dental issue- I never took a chupa but I needed braces. DH, who took a chupa for about forever, has always had perfectly straight teeth. Life isn't fair. If DS needs braces when he's older it won't be the end of the world. Unless I'm missing another reason that the chupa is unhealthy, I don't see any reason to take it away until he's ready. DS is also very tall for his age and looks to be about a year older. He speaks all the time, and very clearly.

The only reason I was forced to take it away cold turkey from DD is because she started gnawing on it at all times, even during nap time, and it became a choking hazard. 

Ktbug613

BookitBoo said:

Speaking of pacifiers (we call ours a chupa); my UO is that DS is 2 1/2 and still takes his chupa. We also give it to him when he isn't feeling well. We've tried taking it away and it just hasn't happened. DH is adamant that we're making it a big deal for no reason. It soothes him and makes him comfortable. Concerning the dental issue- I never took a chupa but I needed braces. DH, who took a chupa for about forever, has always had perfectly straight teeth. Life isn't fair. If DS needs braces when he's older it won't be the end of the world. Unless I'm missing another reason that the chupa is unhealthy, I don't see any reason to take it away until he's ready. DS is also very tall for his age and looks to be about a year older. He speaks all the time, and very clearly.

im not sure if the same is true for pacis but a friend of mine just had to have a device installed in the roof of her daughters mouth because she refused to quit thumb sucking. It was not only moving her teeth but she was on the verge of permanent palate(sp? that doesn't look right for some reason) damage

idontevenknow

Christina_Diane said:

In N out is hands down, by far, superior to any fast food burger chain, including 5 Guys. And now I want a double double and some fries.

My UO?  I hate Five Guys.  I'll take a double double and some animal style fries

texasmama786

I'm sure I will offend someone with this but I don't care... This gender x thing is ridiculous. Parents raising their children as gender neutral and keeping their sex a secret until age 5 out of fear of the pressures of gender stereotype is only setting your kid up for confusion and bullying and to me it's selfish of these parents to push their views onto their children. My son loves the color pink and the girls in his class told him it's a girl color, but I encourage my boys to like what they want to like as most moms do. This whole pushing your kid to not conform to male or female and giving them strange stripper sounding names is doing more harm than good.

nah82

SassyMommaC said:

I will totally put my kid on a leash because I've always thought it was awesome. If it weren't considered child abuse, I'd put it in a kennel too. Kids scare me when they start climbing out of their cribs and wandering around. Wish you could just put a top on the crib and solve that problem. But society says that bad LOL 

This made me laugh. I agree it's scary when kids start climbing out of their cribs. This is probably a UO too, but I'll say it anyway: We transitioned DD1 to her toddler bed as soon as she started putting her leg over the edge of her crib. We would keep her door closed to keep her in her room (and to help block out some noise in the house). Once she started opening doors, and did so just to stay awake, we put a push button lock door knob on her door. We would only lock it until she fell asleep, then we'd go unlock it so she could get out in the middle of the night if she needed us, or in the morning. We don't use the lock anymore, but we kept it on the door because we knew she'd be sharing a room with DD2. To keep from getting locked in on accident, we use one of those cuff door stops and put it out of her reach. It also helps keep the girls from shutting their fingers in the door.

We put one of the plastic child proofing door knob guard things on the inside knob of #2's door.  Not only would he never go to bed when he had the ability to open the door after I laid him down for bed, but more than once I had to completely unscrew and remove the entire door knob mechanism because he and big brother locked themselves inside the room using the turn lock on the knob and could not figure out how to turn it the other way to come out.