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Out of Limbo, On to D&C

* * * spoiler alert * * *  In case you missed the title, this post does not have a happy ending. It's much more "Game of Thrones" and much less "Full House" in its inability to resolve everything in a neat little package, as perfect as Uncle Jesse's hair.  Whoa!  What's showing more in that last sentence: my age or my bitterness? Ok.  **End of bitter pitty party**
Quick catch up - this is my 1st IVF cycle.  I had a BFP on 1 May, but a too small gestational sac and no sign of heartbeat at my first scan.  I went back in for blood work and a sonogram later in the week, and lo and behold, it looked like some development may have occurred.  Fast forward 2 weeks and 3 scans later and we've gone past slow growth, the formation of a fetal pole, the flicker of a heart beat... and an ever growing yolk sac (which I never knew before was a sign of an abnormal pregnancy), ..... a pregnancy that is slipping ever further behind in development, and a weakening, dying flicker.  Today, my RE extinguished the last bit of hope for this sad pregnancy, and scheduled me for an D&C on Monday.  So, I've got that to look forward to.  (Did I say the pitty party was over?  Maybe I lied).

I'm nervous about the D&C.  I do have another scan scheduled for Friday, to be sure that the heartbeat is really gone, but I've never had much luck at scans.  My RE recommended that we get genetic testing done, but I'm afraid of what I might find.  And if there are chromosomal abnormalities, what conclusions can I draw from that? 

I really don't know how to feel right now.  I've been on such a roller coaster these past few weeks.  I'm hoping the D&C will bring a little closure, so I can move on.  And I'll start moving on with a big glass of wine, and a giant tray of sashimi.

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Me: 37, DH: 39, TTC 5 yrs

2013 summary: Diagnosed with Hypothyroid; Cervical polyp removed (benign); 
2 rounds ovidrel with timed intercourse (no result): 3 rounds IUI with clomid + ovidrel (no result)
2014 summary (to date):
IVF cycle 1 - ER: 4/17 (28 follicles, 3 fertilized, 2 survived to day 3);
ET: 4/20 (3rd day, 2 embryos - 1 @ 6 cells & 1 @ 4 cells); Beta 5/1 - BFP!; 
1st scan 5/13 - development behind, no heartbeat detected; D&C 6/2; WTF 6/13
IVF cycle 2 - BCP begun 7/12; stims w/ HGH begun 7/26; 
ER: 8/6, 12 follicles, 7 fertilized w/ ICSI; ET: 8/11, 3 blastocysts left, 2 transferred, 3rd arrested 8/12 - none to freeze :'(
1st beta 8/19 - BFP! 294; 2nd beta 8/26 - 4976; 1st u/s 9/2; 2nd u/s 9/9 - two little heartbeats at 140 each!!! 
EDD: 29-April-2015
Other Meds: Synthroid 100 mcg/daily

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  • pblgepblge member
    I'm so sorry. I had ultrasound hell after my IVF #1, and it didn't end well for me, either. It was a really nightmarish experience, and even the full bottle of wine I drank the night they told me the heartbeat had stopped didn't help. The D&C was easy, although I cried through most of the prep. It was good to have it done quickly so that the limbo could end. I didn't have anything frozen either.

    Don't feel like you need to bury your grief. It's natural to be devastated and angry, and you should be gentle with yourself. "Pity parties" are totally warranted. Sending you t&p. (((hugs)))
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    ***Losses mentioned.*** TTC #1 since May 2012. Me: 37, OH: 41. Ectopic August 2012 => tubal damage. :'(  Stage 1 endo removed June 2013. IVF #1 Oct/Nov 2013: Long Lupron with Gonal-F. 7R, 7M, 7F. 2 txfer@3d. Nothing frozen.  => M/C @ 8 wks. :'( Selected RPL panel all normal. Very hyper and brittle response to stims. IVF #2 (antagonist protocol) Feb 2014 => Converted to IUI (Perfect conditions). BFN. IVF #2.1 w/ new RE June 2014: Antagonist protocol. 33R, 31M, 30F, 19 blasts to test!!! I made it through without crashing!! :) Hats off to Dr. Fancypants!! ET of one 5AB blast. BFN. 13 10 CCS'ed snowflakes! FET #1 PUPO as of 7/29 Betas: 8/7@24, 8/9@97, 8/11@334 (etc.) Two sacs on 8/15, one seen on 8/18 after a bleed. U/s 8/25 (6+3) "perfect": 5.9 mm + HB@120bpm! U/s 9/4 (7+6): 15.9 mm + HB@172 bpm! Please, PLEASE stick this time!!!!
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  • cls78cls78 member
    So sorry. big (((huggs)))
    TTC since May/June 2012 
    Sept 2013 testing:
    SA #1 Low motility (17%) 
    SA #2 Lower sperm count, but much higher motility
    CD 3 Bloodwork and ultrasound - Normal HSG - Clear tubes 
    Oct/Nov 2013 Cycle 1 with RE 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI BFN  
    Nov/Dec 2013 Cycle 2 with RE 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI BFN 
    Jan/Feb 2014 Cycle 3 with RE 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI BFN 
    2/20/14 Follow up consult RE recommends IVF with ICSI 
    3/10/14 New patient consult with RMA NJ 
    3/11/14 AMH and other Bloodwork to prep for IVF with ICSI at RMA NJ
    3/28/14 Saline Sonogram - All good
    March/April 2014 IVF #1 Antagonist Protocol
    BCP/Bravelle/Menopur/Ganirelix
    4/16/14 ER 26 Retrieved!!!
    4/17/14 Fert Report 22 Mature 21 Fertilized w/ ICSI
    4/22/14 Report #2 15 BLASTS
    5/24/14 FET!!!  (Transferring 2 snowflakes)
    6/2/14 Beta #1 575!!! :)
    6/4/14 Beta #2 2060!!! :)
    6/11/14 1st Ultrasound...Saw 2 Gestational Sacs!!  Beta #3 34,312!!! 
    6/18/14 2nd Ultrasound...Heartbeats!! Baby A 112bpm Baby B 117bmp <3 Beta #4 172,080!!!
    6/25/14 3rd Ultrasound...Heartbeats!! Baby A 150bpm Baby B 158bpm <3 Beta #5 232,134!!! 
    7/3/14 4th Ultrasound...Heartbeats!! Baby A 173bpm Baby B 162bpm <3 Beta #6 269,228!!!
    Graduated from RMA!!  First appt with OB 7/8/14

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  • taralatarala member
    I am so sorry to hear you are going through this. Thinking of you...

    Ella Rose

    1/17/15 born via IVF w/ ICSI

    Spontaneous Twins!

    Due January 2016

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  • So sorry!
    ***SIGGY WARNING***

    DX: Unexplained
    6 Failed IUIs (Clomid and Gonal F).  
    IVF #1 began August 2013- BC, 4 days of Estrace, stimmed with Gonal F and Menopur, Ganirelix, 9R 5M 5F, Medrol and Doxycycline, 5 day transfer of 2 early blastocysts- good quality, Progesterone, Estrace, and baby aspirin, BETA on 9/20 BFN,   IVF #2 began September 2013, stimming with Gonal F (higher dose) and Menopur, Ganirelix, 18R 14M 9F with ICSI, 5 day transfer of 2 BBs one was starting to hatch, 2 frosties: 1  BB and 1 AC, BETA on 10/21, BFN BETA was a 5- chemical 
    Getting some more testing and trying to figure out what the issue is before FET in December, started acupuncture on 11/10, RLP and some other BW nothing major to report except slightly high Prolactin. Prolactin was slightly high when I started with my RE and I already had an MRI which was Neg.  Endo biopsy=negative.  WTF is wrong with us???
    12/18/13 FET of 1 BB and 1 AC.  Hoping for a miracle.  Beta 12/26 Low BETA-8 2nd BETA 5- chemical
    After 3 failed transfers IDK where to go from here.  Still no real answers as to why this isn't working.  Getting a second opinion in February and looking into immune testing.  
    2/14- NEW RE- Immune testing showed a partial dq alpha match with DH- On prednisone and did intralipids prior to transfer.  3/14 Lupron, gonal f, menopur, HGH.  ER 15 mature all 15 fertilized!  5dt of an early blast grade 1 and an expanded blast grade 2.  BETA on 4/21.  1 grade 2 embryo frozen
    BETA #1 59 BETA #2 148 BETA #3 283 BETA #4 2,783! US at 6w2d shows 1 bean measuring right on track! HR 121.  US at 8w3d measuring on track HR 177. Released form my RE.  EDD 12/28


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  • I'm so sorry you're dealing with this.

    If you test for chromosomal abnormalities, and find them, there's not much of a conclusion to be drawn except that the pregnancy would never have been viable. If there are no abnormalities, then there *might* be another issue they could address next time, but since this is your first IVF cycle (and I think first pregnancy?) I wouldn't necessarily leap to that conclusion. 
    Me: 34 / DH: 33
    19-year history of endometriosis. Multiple surgeries and cyst removals. Forced directly into IVF due to blocked tubes and severe adhesions.
    IVF w/ICSI and CCS #1 - Dec 2013 - Only 1 normal. Ended in CP
    IVF w/ICSI and CCS #2, at CCRM - March 2014!
    14R, 12 ICSI'd, 11F, 6 for CCS, 5 healthy blasts frozen!
    Two 5BB blasts transferred 9/10; First beta 9/19: 109; second beta 9/22: 550!
    EDD: 5/29/15

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  • AMSharkAMShark member
    airidh80, thanks for the input.  I wonder if its worth doing the genetic testing at all.  One bad egg, don't spoil the whole bunch (or something like that), right?  I don't know if finding an abnormality will make me more or less anxious... I think more anxious.
    Ugh - looks like I'm going to have a seriously bad case of the MON-days next week.  
    :(

    *** Ticker Warning ***

    Me: 37, DH: 39, TTC 5 yrs

    2013 summary: Diagnosed with Hypothyroid; Cervical polyp removed (benign); 
    2 rounds ovidrel with timed intercourse (no result): 3 rounds IUI with clomid + ovidrel (no result)
    2014 summary (to date):
    IVF cycle 1 - ER: 4/17 (28 follicles, 3 fertilized, 2 survived to day 3);
    ET: 4/20 (3rd day, 2 embryos - 1 @ 6 cells & 1 @ 4 cells); Beta 5/1 - BFP!; 
    1st scan 5/13 - development behind, no heartbeat detected; D&C 6/2; WTF 6/13
    IVF cycle 2 - BCP begun 7/12; stims w/ HGH begun 7/26; 
    ER: 8/6, 12 follicles, 7 fertilized w/ ICSI; ET: 8/11, 3 blastocysts left, 2 transferred, 3rd arrested 8/12 - none to freeze :'(
    1st beta 8/19 - BFP! 294; 2nd beta 8/26 - 4976; 1st u/s 9/2; 2nd u/s 9/9 - two little heartbeats at 140 each!!! 
    EDD: 29-April-2015
    Other Meds: Synthroid 100 mcg/daily

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  • So sorry love. This won't make it better, but at least you know you are physically capable of becoming pregnant. A lot of if'ers don't make it that far on a first cycle. Big hugs and hope for the future!!
    On 10/23/13 Baby Sophie and Baby Gabriel born at 21+5 weeks. They grew wings and flew away from us. May God bless them always. We love you beans!
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  • AMShark said:
    airidh80, thanks for the input.  I wonder if its worth doing the genetic testing at all.  One bad egg, don't spoil the whole bunch (or something like that), right?  I don't know if finding an abnormality will make me more or less anxious... I think more anxious.
      ****** STUCK IN BOX***

    Talk it over with your doctor before you make the decision. For what it's worth, finding an abnormality really shouldn't make you any more anxious. It's very, very common. Most first-trimester miscarriages are a result of a chromosomal abnormality, and in almost all cases, it has no bearing on your future potential. Yes, some people have far more complicated circumstances that make it very hard for them to produce healthy embryos, but there's no reason to just assume you're part of that group.

    FWIW, on our first go-round, we had HORRIBLE rates of aneuploidy. We were very concerned it was going to be the same on this last cycle, but we ended up with 5 normal blasts out of 6! 

    Again, I'm so sorry for your loss :( T&P
    Me: 34 / DH: 33
    19-year history of endometriosis. Multiple surgeries and cyst removals. Forced directly into IVF due to blocked tubes and severe adhesions.
    IVF w/ICSI and CCS #1 - Dec 2013 - Only 1 normal. Ended in CP
    IVF w/ICSI and CCS #2, at CCRM - March 2014!
    14R, 12 ICSI'd, 11F, 6 for CCS, 5 healthy blasts frozen!
    Two 5BB blasts transferred 9/10; First beta 9/19: 109; second beta 9/22: 550!
    EDD: 5/29/15

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  • I'm so sorry!
    Married 8/6/2011 Me (26) DH (33) SA normal,HSG clear TTC since August 2011 7/2012 50mg Clomid+Trigger+IUI+progesterone =BFN 8/2012 100mg Clomid+estrogen+Trigger+IUI+progestrone=BFN 10/2012 100mg clomid+Gonal+Lupron+Trigger+Progestrone+IUI=BFP but ectopic.
  • I am so sorry, lady. It's so hard to have to go through IVF and then have it end sadly. ::huge hugs to you:::

    Me: 28, DH: 35
    DX: Severe MFI, AZFc Microdeletion
    TTC since August 2011
    IVF w/ ICSI 1: Dec. 2013 - BFN
    FET 1.2: Mar. 2014 - BFN
    FET 1.3: May 2014 - BFN
    FET 1.4: June 2014 - BFP
    Two little buns in the oven. 
    Bake until March 2015, little ones. 


    "Life will be clearer around me.
     Life will be more burdensome for me. 
    Life will be richer for me." 
    -Rudolf Steiner
  • I am so sorry ((HUGS))


     

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    ***Losses mentioned***

    ***TTC since June 2011
    ***DH to see urologist Feb. 2013
    ***BFP #1: Feb. 2nd, 2013; M/C #1: Feb. 12th, 2013 5w3d :'(
    ***1st RE appt. April 10th, 2013
    ***IUIs #1-4 all failed
    ***IVF Consult October 7th, 2013
    ***IVF #1- January 2014: ER 1/20, ET of 2 embryos 1/23, Beta 2/5 *none to freeze*

    ***Feb 14th, 2014- M/C #2 @ 5w5d :'(

    ***RPL Bloodwork---- diagnosed with Factor V Leiden and MTHFR

    ***appt. w/ Genetic Counselor- April 18th

    ***hysteroscopy/laparoscopy scheduled for May 22nd- looks good

    ***IVF #2- July 2014

    ***7/26 Retrieval- 3 eggs :( , 2 fertilized :), none to freeze

    ***7/28 ET- 2dt of 2 embryos, stick little embies!!!

    ***8/11 beta- BFN :(

    ***WTF- DE IVF best option now

    ***DE IVF- January 2015

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  • So sorry you had to go through this. I had a D&C with my first IVF pregnancy. It did give me closure for my cycle, but the emotional wound of losing the baby was quite overwhelming. Be good to yourself. 

    Do you have plans to cycle again soon? 
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    Waited a long time, tried a lot of stuff, science made me a mom.
     Loss and IF veteran. Current mom of DS 5.5, DD 2, and sometimes DH 40. Due June 2021 with TWINS
  • AMSharkAMShark member
    Thanks to everyone for being so supportive.  @jaztaz1, if all goes well, we're planning to start a new cycle in July.  My RE would like me to go through one menstrual cycle before we start trying again, but at age 37, I'm always counting off time lost in my head.  
    "TICK TOCK - TICK TOCK - It's ovarian time bombs, and they could go off at any second!  Save yourselves!"

    *** Ticker Warning ***

    Me: 37, DH: 39, TTC 5 yrs

    2013 summary: Diagnosed with Hypothyroid; Cervical polyp removed (benign); 
    2 rounds ovidrel with timed intercourse (no result): 3 rounds IUI with clomid + ovidrel (no result)
    2014 summary (to date):
    IVF cycle 1 - ER: 4/17 (28 follicles, 3 fertilized, 2 survived to day 3);
    ET: 4/20 (3rd day, 2 embryos - 1 @ 6 cells & 1 @ 4 cells); Beta 5/1 - BFP!; 
    1st scan 5/13 - development behind, no heartbeat detected; D&C 6/2; WTF 6/13
    IVF cycle 2 - BCP begun 7/12; stims w/ HGH begun 7/26; 
    ER: 8/6, 12 follicles, 7 fertilized w/ ICSI; ET: 8/11, 3 blastocysts left, 2 transferred, 3rd arrested 8/12 - none to freeze :'(
    1st beta 8/19 - BFP! 294; 2nd beta 8/26 - 4976; 1st u/s 9/2; 2nd u/s 9/9 - two little heartbeats at 140 each!!! 
    EDD: 29-April-2015
    Other Meds: Synthroid 100 mcg/daily

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  • jen102279jen102279 member
    edited May 2014
    I am so sorry for your loss and frustration.  I had to have a D&C, and it was fast and physically painless.  I also cried during the whole prep. 


    AMShark said:
     but at age 37, I'm always counting off time lost in my head.  
    "TICK TOCK - TICK TOCK - It's ovarian time bombs, and they could go off at any second!  Save yourselves!"
    and you are hilarious! I feel the clock ticking too! 
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    BFP#1 07/01/2004 ~ EDD 03/10/2005 ~ 
    D&C 8/1/2004 @ 5w5d
    BFP#2 12/27/10 ~ EDD 9/06/2011 ~ DS born 08/14/11 via c-section, passed away 10/17/11
    BFP#3 09/07/12 ~ EDD 5/09/2013 ~ DS born 01/30/13 survived for 2 hrs
    08/06/14 Waiting for 1st IVF cycle to begin

    IVF#1: started stims 9/15; trigger 9/24; ET 9/26-5R 5M, 5F. 3 biopsied for PGD

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