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Suggestions for WTF appt after 3 failed IVFs?

You can see my basic history in my signature and a lot of you have been aware of what's been happening over the past 1.5 years of IVF.  Thursday afternoon is our WTF appointment and I'm just curious if any of you have some suggestions that I might not have heard or thought of yet to present at this meeting.  This was my first cycle with this RE and I LOVE LOVE LOVE her and the office.  She diagnosed me with PCOS and I've been on meds for several months now... we did a hysteroscopy and removed polyps... we did PGS testing so we knew we were putting back a "normal" embryo... I feel like we did a LOT to put the odds in our favor this cycle and yet again we were met with defeat.  We have 2 (normal) embryos frozen so we'll be looking at an FET.  I am looking at adding acupuncture.  Thanks again for your support and input.  :)

Married 2005 | DH & I are 33 | DH diagnosed with CAVD & I have PCOS

IVF #1: February 2013
ER 02/13: 15R, 12M, 10F
ET 02/18: 5DT of 2 beautiful AA Blasts!
(none to freeze)
Beta Hell resulted in Chemical Pregnancy
Taking a Mental/Physical Break (vitamins & weight loss!)

IVF #2: July 2013
ER 07/03: 12R, 8M, 6F
ET 07/08: 5DT of 1 Early Blast & 1 BB Blast
(none to freeze, again)
HPT & Beta 07/17: BFN

IVF #3: April 2014
New RE (yay!)
ER 04/07 37R, 35M, 26F
Froze 5 Beautiful Blasts
PGS shows 3 are "Normal"
FET One 5AA Blast on 05/07
HPT & Beta 05/20 - BFN 

FET: August 2014
Planned to transfer 2 embryos but only one made it.
Transferred one beautiful blast that had started to hatch!
BFP on FRER at 9dp5dt on 08/21
Beta #1 08/22 - 185
Beta #2 08/26 - 1123
Beta #3 08/28 - 2697
Ultrasound 09/05 - One beautiful bean with a heartbeat!
 
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Re: Suggestions for WTF appt after 3 failed IVFs?

  • I'm so sorry about your negative. Have you had an RPL performed? It would rule out any common autoimmune disorders. 
    I will PM you the notes of tests I was looking at before I went to the RI. I know Dr. KK did a few more than that. One key difference is performing an US that measured blood flow inside the uterus and to each ovary. A blood clotting or inflammation problem could affect the blood flow. 
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    TTC Since 12/2008;  DH: 32, Azoospermia     me: 33, DX during IVF #4: Low AMH (Normal FSH) / SER due 
    to IVF Meds (causing failure to fertilize) Recent DX: Hashimoto's, Lupus Anticoagulant, White Blood Cell Disorder 
    High ANA, ATA, & APA, PAI-1 Heterozygous= blood clotting disorder; connective tissue disorder 
    IVF w/ ICSI #1 2/2011     IVF w/ ICSI #2 5/2011    IVF w/ ICSI #3 12/2012   *New RE* IVF w/ ICSI #4  5/2013
    IVF w/ ICSI #5 8/2013 (Natural Cycle- No drugs)- One follicle->one blast. CCS normal. FET 9/10- 6BB blast. m/c @ 5w
    IUI #1 12/23- BFN  IUI #2 Cancelled (ovulated during AF)  Prep:CoQ10 (300 mg); DHEA (25 mg); Melatonin (3 mg), Folgard 2.2, Metformin 500 2x, Levothyroxine 50mcg, Aspirin 81mg w/ calcium, B12,  Vit. D 4000 & Prenate Elite Daily; Cabergoline 1/2 pill 2x week-  Cycling: Estrace Priming; Prednisone 10mg, Lovenox 40mg 2x,  Femera & Menopur   
    IUI #2.1 6/30 & 7/1. 1st Beta: 90 (7/15); 2nd Beta: 226 (7/17); 3rd Beta: 766   EDD: 3/23/2015

       **ALL WELCOME**                                    My Blog 
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  • Wow, all of that is jibberish to me but thank you @IFinTN and @poohniki !!!  I'm making notes of things to bring up today!

    PS - @IFinTN - I'm assuming you're in Tennessee!?  My hubby is from there and we lived in Knoxville a couple years.  I LOVED it and miss it... we only get out there a couple times per year to visit.  :)

    Married 2005 | DH & I are 33 | DH diagnosed with CAVD & I have PCOS

    IVF #1: February 2013
    ER 02/13: 15R, 12M, 10F
    ET 02/18: 5DT of 2 beautiful AA Blasts!
    (none to freeze)
    Beta Hell resulted in Chemical Pregnancy
    Taking a Mental/Physical Break (vitamins & weight loss!)

    IVF #2: July 2013
    ER 07/03: 12R, 8M, 6F
    ET 07/08: 5DT of 1 Early Blast & 1 BB Blast
    (none to freeze, again)
    HPT & Beta 07/17: BFN

    IVF #3: April 2014
    New RE (yay!)
    ER 04/07 37R, 35M, 26F
    Froze 5 Beautiful Blasts
    PGS shows 3 are "Normal"
    FET One 5AA Blast on 05/07
    HPT & Beta 05/20 - BFN 

    FET: August 2014
    Planned to transfer 2 embryos but only one made it.
    Transferred one beautiful blast that had started to hatch!
    BFP on FRER at 9dp5dt on 08/21
    Beta #1 08/22 - 185
    Beta #2 08/26 - 1123
    Beta #3 08/28 - 2697
    Ultrasound 09/05 - One beautiful bean with a heartbeat!
     
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    I had a very similiar issue going on. I've had 3 BFNs. Once I switched RE's we also added CGH testing (PGS is basically the same thing). My new RE ran all of the RPL tests on me. He tesetd me for all the blood clotting disorders, also immune issues. We added intralipids to the 4th Transfer (with a "normal" embryo) and I finally got a positive beta (but it was too low!). For the 5th transfer we added Lovenox (a blood thinner -experimentally thought to increase blood flow during implantation) and we did the intralipids again andt his one worked!

    My biggest advice is to ask your new RE to test you for any blood clotting disorders and immune issues. Good luckto you! I konw how much is sucks when you keep getting BFNs back to back. xo

    Me (28) DH (32)  Endometriosis                                                                                   IVF  #1 (1/2013) - 17 Retrieved, 16 Mature, 14 Fertilized- 2 transferred- BFN
    FET #1 (7/2013) - 2 embryos - BFN
    FET #2 (9/2013) - 2 emrbyos - BFN
    New RE. Fresh Start
    IVF  #2 (2/2014) - 25 Retrieved, 19 Mature, 16 Fertilized, 9 blasts.
                                 CGH Testing: 6 Normal
    FET #3 (4/2014) -1 embryo -  BFP! Beta#1: 35 Beta #2: 16 :(
    FET #4 (5/2014) -1 embryo -  BFP! Beta#1: 321!!! Beta #2: 727.9!
    6/5/2014 Heartbeat! 144bpm It's a girl!
    Due January!
     
     

  • I've had 3 failed IVFs (I guess technically the first was canceled) and one failed FET w/ donor embryos. We decided to see a Reproductive Immunologist before doing any other treatment cycles. I actually did some immune testing after IVF #1. We were OOP and my RE wanted to make sure that we didn't have any other issues that would prevent me from getting pregnant. My NK cells came back borderline high, so they treated me for those during my next IVF cycles. Since if you have one auto-immune issue you are more likely to have another, I want to make sure there is nothing else that needs to be treated during our cycles.

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    TTC #1 since August 2011

    My Blog

    September 2012: Start IF testing

    DH (32): SA is ok, slightly low morph, normal SCSA  Me (32): Slightly low progesterone, hostile CM, carrier for CF, Moderately high NKC, High TNFa, heterozyogous mutated Factor XIII, and +APA

    October 2012-May 2014: 4 failed IUIs, 3 failed IVFs, and 1 failed FETw/donor embryos

    November 2014: IVF w/ICSI #4 Agonist/Antagonist with EPP and Prednisone, Baby Aspirin, Lovenox, and IVIG for immune issues.  Converted to freeze all due to lining issues.  2 blasts frozen on day 6!

    January 2015: FET #2 Cancelled due to lining issues

    April 2015: FET #2.1


    PAIF/SAIF Welcome!

  • hmz819hmz819 member
    edited May 2014
    I also suggest immune testing or at the very least RPL panel.

    TTC#1 since April 2011
    IVF#1 July 2012 5R, 3 made it to blast, sET c/p
    FET#1 Aug 2012 2 blasts transferred BFN
    IVF#2 Oct 2012
    16R/6M/6F/2-8 cell grade 1 transfer
    Beta 1-237.9, Beta 2-566, Beta 3-8657
    US 6w3d shows one baby w/ HB 115
    US 7w1d no more heartbeat/ D&C 11/30/12 normal karyotype
    IVF#3 Mar 2013
    6R/4M/4F 1 compacting and 2-8 cell transfer
    ectopic pg MTX given 3 month break from TTC

    IVF#4 Sept 2013--BFN
    IVF#5-7 Apr 2014, Jun 2014 and Aug 2014 banking embryos for CCS testing. Praying for normals! Image and video hosting by TinyPic imageimage

    http://i61.tinypic.com/34zll06
  • hmz819hmz819 member
    How did your WTF go? Hope you have a plan!

    TTC#1 since April 2011
    IVF#1 July 2012 5R, 3 made it to blast, sET c/p
    FET#1 Aug 2012 2 blasts transferred BFN
    IVF#2 Oct 2012
    16R/6M/6F/2-8 cell grade 1 transfer
    Beta 1-237.9, Beta 2-566, Beta 3-8657
    US 6w3d shows one baby w/ HB 115
    US 7w1d no more heartbeat/ D&C 11/30/12 normal karyotype
    IVF#3 Mar 2013
    6R/4M/4F 1 compacting and 2-8 cell transfer
    ectopic pg MTX given 3 month break from TTC

    IVF#4 Sept 2013--BFN
    IVF#5-7 Apr 2014, Jun 2014 and Aug 2014 banking embryos for CCS testing. Praying for normals! Image and video hosting by TinyPic imageimage

    http://i61.tinypic.com/34zll06
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