UO.....?

ncase2

It's Thursday right? Let's here them!

ncase2

TB stole my gif

I don't have a great one today - every time I think of one, it's more of an FFFC. 

I really don't like all the wedding shows - the "say yes to the dress", "a wedding story", all the crazy celebrity wedding coverage, ect. The wedding is not the hard part people. I also don't like the saying "and they lived happily ever after". If getting to the alter was that hard, you probably won't be happy.

I also don't understand the hype around Toms shoes. I tried them on and they look like old people loafters. I like that they give back to charity, but the shoes I don't get. And I LOVE shoes.

catycate

I'm over all the hashtagging. I get that it's an old O 13 joke but seriously if you have to hashtag the last paragraph of your post, you're trying too hard. Phew. I've been holding onto that one all week.

deedee1017

missgpsu said:

I think kids don't have things to look forward as much anymore.  Every birthday party is a HUGE party so there is no looking forward to the Sweet 16.  Kids get gifts or things they want all year so no looking forward to getting things at Christmas or your birthday.  People take their kids on fabulous trips now so why look forward to going somewhere big for your honeymoon.  So overall, I think people should live simpler.  My parents never bought me toys outside of my birthday or Christmas.  If I wanted something from the latest movie (like Frozen), I had to wait for a special occasion or save up for it myself.  I sort of feel though if I follow this with my LO, she will be in the minority.

I think it's going to be hard to abstain from buying all that stuff because of the fact that everyone does it now.  It used to be that you and your best friend could relate to waiting.  People weren't fighting to keep up with the joneses.  I agree with you 100% but I also don't want DD to feel like we are the only ones who don't have these things. I will try my hardest to find a happy medium and stick to it.  I want her to appreciate the things she does have and to, like you said, strive for something more when she's older.

deedee1017

I am not a fan of 30 day challenges.  I don't really see the point of them.  What happens after the 30 days?  If you don't keep something up, the results won't last either.  I kind of put them with fad diets.  They only work while you're doing them.  I think a healthier lifestyle with better habits is the best way to go.  Unless, of course, you enjoy doing 30 day challenges as a hobby or to test yourself.

Weljadraak

missgpsu said:

I think kids don't have things to look forward as much anymore.  Every birthday party is a HUGE party so there is no looking forward to the Sweet 16.  Kids get gifts or things they want all year so no looking forward to getting things at Christmas or your birthday.  People take their kids on fabulous trips now so why look forward to going somewhere big for your honeymoon.  So overall, I think people should live simpler.  My parents never bought me toys outside of my birthday or Christmas.  If I wanted something from the latest movie (like Frozen), I had to wait for a special occasion or save up for it myself.  I sort of feel though if I follow this with my LO, she will be in the minority.

Hm, I see what you are saying.  I don't get the vibe that it's any worse than when we (uh, let's say 25-35 year olds) were growing up.  There is ALWAYS a new, cool thing.  Nintendo comes to mind.  Perhaps consumerism is more rampant these days, but I don't think that necessarily relates to how much you have to buy your child.  I think a spoiled child now is a spoiled child then.  You can nurture a Charlie and not a Veruca. 

carawasa

baconface said:

When someone says that they do not "believe" in evolution, I feel almost as uncomfortable as I do when someone says they don't "believe" in vaccines. 

*Shudder*

agreed. 1,000,751%

blondolphn

I won 't buy Jo everything, but I may buy her some things. And it won't be all the time. I want her to appreciate random gifts. So maybe if she has been really helpful like picking up sticks in the yard, I might surprise her with something. But not all the time. Or maybe a treat like buying ice cream from the ice cream truck. For her birthday's I think I'd rather take her somewhere fun like a kids museum or rock climbing. etc.

StefMurph

Emilyusc211 said:

I prefer thongs (except to sleep in - it's probably weird that I switch into granny panties to sleep..)

I think you may be the only person who sleeps in panties.

I sleep in shorts unless it's period time.

#letthegoodsbreathe
#wemayneedapoll

hlb622

baconface said:

When someone says that they do not "believe" in evolution, I feel almost as uncomfortable as I do when someone says they don't "believe" in vaccines. 

*Shudder*

This is a gigantic billboard campaign in our area (maybe everywhere, who knows) and they make me shake my head every damn time. The fact that schools are teaching children that evolution just flat-out didn't happen is irresponsible and wrong. Ridiculous.

carawasa

NRyan55 said:

carawasa said:

baconface said:

When someone says that they do not "believe" in evolution, I feel almost as uncomfortable as I do when someone says they don't "believe" in vaccines. 

*Shudder*

agreed. 1,000,751%

I feel like that's too many

#allthepercents

deedee1017

NRyan55 said:

I have no clue if this is a UO/HTT/random thought, but I will post it here.

I saw the greatest point for vaccinating that I have seen yet, and from such a fresh perspective.  I can't remember verbatim but it was basically this:

How sad is it that anti-vaxxers perceive that a life with a disability (i.e. autism) is worse than a life with a potentially fatal disease that could be prevented by a vaccine.  So basically to take a leap they would rather their child be dead than disabled.

ETA: #boomgoesthedynamite

Wow.  That's food for thought.

Weljadraak

NRyan55 said:

I have no clue if this is a UO/HTT/random thought, but I will post it here.

I saw the greatest point for vaccinating that I have seen yet, and from such a fresh perspective.  I can't remember verbatim but it was basically this:

How sad is it that anti-vaxxers perceive that a life with a disability (i.e. autism) is worse than a life with a potentially fatal disease that could be prevented by a vaccine.  So basically to take a leap they would rather their child be dead than disabled.

ETA: #boomgoesthedynamite

Definitely a hot topic.  Not on TB but if you frequent FB and subscribe to some news pages, you'll see a vaccination article pop up every now and then.  The comments will make you rage.  The best response I saw was a picture of children in iron lungs, because that's the alternative.

Weljadraak

IT REALLY CHAPS MY ASS that professionalism is seemingly non-existent.  If it is your JOB to return phone calls / emails / texts then do so.  BE POLITE. BE PROMPT.  BE PROFESSIONAL.  What is so difficult about that?!

deedee1017

 

dh13 said:

I buy my kid #allthethings.

She is probably gonna need therapy in the future, but whatev. Truly, I think it stems from living a very poor life when we were younger and my mom being a single working parent.

That's the other part of the equation.  We always want to give our kids more and better than what we had.

norbert5

deedee1017 said:

missgpsu said:

I think kids don't have things to look forward as much anymore.  Every birthday party is a HUGE party so there is no looking forward to the Sweet 16.  Kids get gifts or things they want all year so no looking forward to getting things at Christmas or your birthday.  People take their kids on fabulous trips now so why look forward to going somewhere big for your honeymoon.  So overall, I think people should live simpler.  My parents never bought me toys outside of my birthday or Christmas.  If I wanted something from the latest movie (like Frozen), I had to wait for a special occasion or save up for it myself.  I sort of feel though if I follow this with my LO, she will be in the minority.

I think it's going to be hard to abstain from buying all that stuff because of the fact that everyone does it now.  It used to be that you and your best friend could relate to waiting.  People weren't fighting to keep up with the joneses.  I agree with you 100% but I also don't want DD to feel like we are the only ones who don't have these things. I will try my hardest to find a happy medium and stick to it.  I want her to appreciate the things she does have and to, like you said, strive for something more when she's older.

@missgpsu, we will be in the minority with you.  We only have big parties for big birthdays and our kids only get gifts on holidays unless they earn it and buy it with their own money.

@deedee1017, I know my oldest is only 4.5 and but I don't find abstaining very hard at all.  I think saying no to a child is way easier then dealing with a child that thinks every time a blockbuster movie comes out they need the DVD, the stuffed animals, the costume, the water bottle, etc. 

Plus when we do buy things for my girls or they get a gift they are incredibly appreciative and it is a big deal.  I love that.  Their faces light up versus their hand being outstretched and they expect it to be filled.

ncase2

deedee1017 said:

 

dh13 said:

I buy my kid #allthethings.

She is probably gonna need therapy in the future, but whatev. Truly, I think it stems from living a very poor life when we were younger and my mom being a single working parent.

That's the other part of the equation.  We always want to give our kids more and better than what we had.

DH and I talk about this all the time, because he grew up very poor. We strive to be somewhere in the middle - enough so that our kid isn't made fun of at school, but no where near the Jones'. 

ajjf1026

I guess my UO is that I really want to give my child whatever they want (within certain reason). Growing up, my parents would surprise me with random gifts throughout  the year including my birthday, Christmas, Easter, etc. While some kids would be so ungrateful and little assholes, I was genuinely thankful. Granted there was usually a reason for the gift: good grades, doing all my chores without being asked, etc. I mean I didnt get like a pony or anything, but I was rewarded for my good deeds when they thought it was relevant. I wasn't a spoiled little bitch because of it. I want to do the same for Joey. Now if he's being a straight up terrorizer then no way will he get a present but I'm hoping you all catch my drift.

As of right now, I buy him #allthethings. But he doesn't know any better at this point.

blondolphn

Ok, so here is a question. For those only buying gifts for major Holidays or birthdays, how much are you spending? I fee like if I buy a few things through out the year I won't go crazy expensive on the big occassions. Like my kid won't be getting an Ipad,but maybe like $100 of fun stuff and maybe some clothes, books, needs etc. 

Amjoy25

jgslr said:

This will deft be unpopular here, I'm disappointed by blw. I read the book and it sounded awesome in theory, but in practice ehhh. DD is still preferring purees (I offer both blw &puree) she opens her mouth like a baby bird. She's especially prefers puree while teething since her little gums hurt. Maybe once she's bigger she'll like blw more, but she still sputters and coughs on chunks of food and I'm kind of tired of it. And let's be honest, you cannot leave a baby out of your sight with blw food, why, bc they can choke. Unattended with a puree, you'll get a mess but there's no "danger". I never really thought of it before yesterday when I needed to refill my glass of water real quick. I'm not totally against blw, I'm still semi doing it, but it's definitely NOT some holy grail of baby feeding.

I think this is more popular then you think.

Amjoy25

baconface said:

When someone says that they do not "believe" in evolution, I feel almost as uncomfortable as I do when someone says they don't "believe" in vaccines. 

*Shudder*

Facts are not something to "believe" in.

ncase2

I think homemade / specialty dog treats are ridiculous. My dog  has a pretty sensitive stomach, but I still refuse to buy this stuff - "boutique" dog treats. We buy her good quality food, and use that as treats as well.

Jalee85

deedee1017 said:

 

dh13 said:

I buy my kid #allthethings.

She is probably gonna need therapy in the future, but whatev. Truly, I think it stems from living a very poor life when we were younger and my mom being a single working parent.

That's the other part of the equation.  We always want to give our kids more and better than what we had.

------------------------
This is how Humans as a species progress. Maybe it's not ideal in the gift giving category, but it's great for survival and technology.

babydoll22308

Omg. I need a mom break. I totally saw this thread this AM with only 12 responses and thought-man they forgot UO yesterday and only 12 posts? So unusual. And I continually have checked for a FFFC thread today. I am a day ahead and now that's even note depressing.
As for UO- I don't have one.
#ilovehashtags
#ibuymykidsallthingsfrozen

norbert5

@blondolphn, it varies.  This Christmas we probably spent about 150 per kid (not including LO, she got diapers and wipes), for Easter we spent about 50.  At birthdays it really varies.  For their first birthday we do a big party no gift, for other parties we just do little play dates with snacks and cupcakes and a gift.  DD1's fifth birthday is coming up and we have been saving to take her on a Disneyland trip, so that will be a big expense, but something DH and I really want to do with her.

I think providing "better then what you had" should be more focused on opportunities then stuff they will forget about in a few years.  Like @carriet2018 said, college, wedding, and computers will be much more appreciated then a bunch of junk now.

I also want to say that I may be coming off sounding really harsh, I swear I am not.  I don't purposely deprive my kids for them to learn a lesson but because I am a SAHM with a DH that works crazy long hours if I bought my girls a toy or treat every time they go to the store with me we would be broke.

Ycu2013

This whole BLW/ purées talk has made me dizzy.

#feedyourchildhowevertheFyouwant
#justmakesuretheydontstarve.

blondolphn

@norbert5

You don't sound harsh. I could see some people choosing to not buy things through out the year and then go buy a pram equivalent for a birthday. It's your perogative on how you spend your money.

Amjoy25

baconface said:

Amjoy25 said:

baconface said:

When someone says that they do not "believe" in evolution, I feel almost as uncomfortable as I do when someone says they don't "believe" in vaccines. 

*Shudder*

Facts are not something to "believe" in.

Exactly. Hence the quotes.

It reminds me of a Friends episode...the one where Mr Henkles dies..."opposable thumbs, without evolution, how do you explain opposable thumbs?"

Weljadraak

All this evolution talk has me thinking.  I might offend some people so I apologize in advanced.  Conservative Christians really need to leave the government, stat.  You know, unless they can separate church and state.

Amjoy25

jgslr said:

blah, I'm now regretting even bringing the topic up. =/

Nah. It makes UO interesting. There are always going to be mommy's who think their way is superior, and that if something isn't working for you (whether it be BFing or BLWing) you are doing something wrong or aren't trying hard enough. It is what it is; and if we all had the same beliefs, life and this board would be no fun. Carry on.

#formulaandpureesforlyfe #imdoingitwrongforsure

Weljadraak

baconface said:

Ballsy UO! I don't think supporting separation of church and state should be a UO, but I am afraid that you are right and it is.

Meh, what've I got to lose? I practically showed me tits last week, eh?   

Jalee85

@jgslr‌ you are definitely not the only one who has fallen off the BLW path. D started taking huge bites of food and it made my anxiety so bad. So I use the mesh feeder to teach her to chew and have started slowly doing purées. She keeps breaking out though so we are doing no food for now.

ncase2

@jgslr - no added opinion here, just wanted to say my kid does the exact.same.thing. Mouth open, LITerally flapping his arms, waiting for me to give him pureed food when I have nice steamed carrots, sweet potatoes, etc. sitting on his tray in front of him. 

ncase2

Weljadraak - I'm totes staying away from political discussions on this board. I probably have some very UO in that area, and I don't want to be the next LC#s

EmJ&B

jgslr said:

jgslr said:

blah, I'm now regretting even bringing the topic up. =/

Nah. It makes UO interesting. There are always going to be mommy's who think their way is superior, and that if something isn't working for you (whether it be BFing or BLWing) you are doing something wrong or aren't trying hard enough. It is what it is; and if we all had the same beliefs, life and this board would be no fun. Carry on.

#formulaandpureesforlyfe #imdoingitwrongforsure

You bring up a great point, it's not that people aren't trying hard enough, it's that to believe every body/baby is going to respond the same way yours did is.... naive. I don't exactly know what the right word would be there, but something along those lines. I think the intentions are coming from a good place. But blanket methods/ideas don't work because each kid/situation is different NOT because we're doing things wrong.

I think the word(s) you're looking for is "narrow minded" . . .

ajjf1026

Weljadraak said:

All this evolution talk has me thinking.  I might offend some people so I apologize in advanced.  Conservative Christians really need to leave the government, stat.  You know, unless they can separate church and state.

Uh oh! @carriet2018‌ That means you & I need to GTFO!

[Deleted User]

I will preface this with saying I've read nothing about BLW nor do I have any desire to...but I don't understand how giving a kid who has no teeth or hand/eye coordination to properly eat real food yet a chunk of food, and then watching them smear themselves, the chair, the floor...basically anything else other than their mouth with said peice of food is teaching them any sort of proper eating techniques/etiquette/good habits...I guess I just don't get it

hlb622

NRyan55 said:

I have no clue if this is a UO/HTT/random thought, but I will post it here.

I saw the greatest point for vaccinating that I have seen yet, and from such a fresh perspective.  I can't remember verbatim but it was basically this:

How sad is it that anti-vaxxers perceive that a life with a disability (i.e. autism) is worse than a life with a potentially fatal disease that could be prevented by a vaccine.  So basically to take a leap they would rather their child be dead than disabled.

ETA: #boomgoesthedynamite

As someone who works in the mental health field, I couldn't agree more. Thank you for sharing!

hlb622

Weljadraak said:

All this evolution talk has me thinking.  I might offend some people so I apologize in advanced.  Conservative Christians really need to leave the government, stat.  You know, unless they can separate church and state.

SERIOUSLY.

Weljadraak

btimes3 said:

Not even! Only if you work in government and want to use your job to try to force everyone else to follow the dictates of your religion. There are actually people with conservative personal values who wouldn't try to force those values onto others even if they could. Of course, nowadays a lot of them are Catholic Democrats.

Right and I hope my meaning isn't misconstrued as a jab at CCs.  Practice your faith but it doesn't belong governing the people of this country.

yesthisiskim0401

People who really don't "believe" in evolution:

How I am with my kids:

There being a wrong way of BLW:

My UO:

Disney is so much better than Nickelodeon.