S/O solids

ChiAmy

So my Dr said when I start solids not to do rice cereal because of the arsenic in it.  She said that it is not safe for babies.  Anyone else's Dr. say this to them?

ChiAmy

prettykitty2012 said:

My dr did not say that, but I have read about trace levels of arsenic in rice. Did he recommend oatmeal instead?

yes.  She said that there is not enough research done so to avoid it.

Caitlinh27

I bought both rice cereal and oatmeal but LO hates them both.  He will only eat fruit or veggies right now.

lynngotts

 Yep, my doctor said the same thing.

snorticusprime

Nope. He said we could start with cereal but he really wants her on healthy fats for brain growth. He said to do avocado, fish, beans, eggs, and pb if possible. No fruits until 6 months.

HerbanMom

Our pedi recommended starting rice or oatmeal at his 4 month, we're doing BLW and I think we've still got a bit but we won't be considering giving him rice at any point due to the arsenic in rice. I have considered using barley and quinoa (cooked whole or in pancakes, not flaked as in cereal) as he gets old enough.

imrachellea

I hadn't planned to start solids until 6 months but she was giving all the signals at 4.5, including taking 13 ozs AND nursing twice between 8p-4a...I had no intention of doing rice so we did some oatmeal but didn't really go well. Waited another week, started avocado on Monday night. She LOVES it and has torn up on what I've sent to daycare and given for dinner. We'll revisit oatmeal and quinoa (we pretty much only use quinoa at home) but still no rice.

acordero2

@ballerina10 you don't have to start with cereal, you can start with veggies or fruits.

RanFan28

LinnyF said:

Nope. He said we could start with cereal but he really wants her on healthy fats for brain growth. He said to do avocado, fish, beans, eggs, and pb if possible. No fruits until 6 months.

@LinnyF‌ Is this a special situation for your child specifically? Eggs and PB are usually not started until at least a year for allergy precautions. And, I'm surprised he wants you to start meat (fish) before fruits. I'm not saying your lying about what he told you, but wondering if that is his general start with everyone or if your LO has a special need for the fatty stuff.

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mh89

My lactation consultant and ped both said to skip all cereals since they're unnecessary and go straight to fruit/veggie/meat at six months. I'm not sure if that advice would be the same to a formula fed baby though. 

JillSandm

RanFan28 said:

LinnyF said:

Nope. He said we could start with cereal but he really wants her on healthy fats for brain growth. He said to do avocado, fish, beans, eggs, and pb if possible. No fruits until 6 months.

@LinnyF‌ Is this a special situation for your child specifically? Eggs and PB are usually not started until at least a year for allergy precautions. And, I'm surprised he wants you to start meat (fish) before fruits. I'm not saying your lying about what he told you, but wondering if that is his general start with everyone or if your LO has a special need for the fatty stuff.

Don't remember where I saw it, but it seems that the trends is moving towards doing these typical allergy-related foods (eggs and pb) earlier instead of waiting. I've also heard to start with meat - like liver.

Still makes me nervous. Might try some hard boiled egg though.

snorticusprime

RanFan28 said:

LinnyF said:

Nope. He said we could start with cereal but he really wants her on healthy fats for brain growth. He said to do avocado, fish, beans, eggs, and pb if possible. No fruits until 6 months.

@LinnyF‌ Is this a special situation for your child specifically? Eggs and PB are usually not started until at least a year for allergy precautions. And, I'm surprised he wants you to start meat (fish) before fruits. I'm not saying your lying about what he told you, but wondering if that is his general start with everyone or if your LO has a special need for the fatty stuff.

We talked him down from scotch and cigars.

Seriously though, that is what he said. No special situation. We have no family history of allergies and it seems the recommendation is moving away from waiting until a year. We are still moving carefully, one food at a time for a week before introducing another. We have only done avocado so far and she isn't a fan.

My H and I are very happy with our pedi and agree with his recommendations. She will basically be eating all the things I did in the last tri. My go to dinner was salmon, quinoa, and avocado. Lol

Kermode61581

mtb21 said:

The reason cereals are often recommended is because they are fortified with iron. Baby's iron stores from birth gradually deplete and between 6-12 months they need an additional source of iron.

This, they are pushing meat and other iron rich foods here for that reason.

RanFan28

LinnyF said:

RanFan28 said:

LinnyF said:

Nope. He said we could start with cereal but he really wants her on healthy fats for brain growth. He said to do avocado, fish, beans, eggs, and pb if possible. No fruits until 6 months.

@LinnyF‌ Is this a special situation for your child specifically? Eggs and PB are usually not started until at least a year for allergy precautions. And, I'm surprised he wants you to start meat (fish) before fruits. I'm not saying your lying about what he told you, but wondering if that is his general start with everyone or if your LO has a special need for the fatty stuff.

We talked him down from scotch and cigars.

Seriously though, that is what he said. No special situation. We have no family history of allergies and it seems the recommendation is moving away from waiting until a year. We are still moving carefully, one food at a time for a week before introducing another. We have only done avocado so far and she isn't a fan.

My H and I are very happy with our pedi and agree with his recommendations. She will basically be eating all the things I did in the last tri. My go to dinner was salmon, quinoa, and avocado. Lol

Lol. No scotch, but some whiskey in the guns can't hurt.

I really wasn't questioning your judgement, just wondering. I hope I didn't sound judgey!

synergy_gd

My dr recommend baby rice cereal for the iron. We started with avacdo then the rice cereal a few days later

notkateanymore

The only thing my doctor says is start with veggies vs. fruit.

BootsOrHearts

ballerina10 said:

So not trying to thread jack... But do you have to start with some kind of cereal? We are waiting till 6 months to start any solids since we are just getting the milk issue under control, so can I just go right to fruits/veggies/BLW?

We just feed him whatever we have or are eating as long as it's not a potential allergen (like peanuts) or something that is really salty. BLW by the book. Literally by the book, I have the book. :-)

notkateanymore

Does he pick it all up himself or are you feeing him Boots?

jy725

Hmmm seems like I should reconsider rice cereal after reading this thread.

LittleA's

My ped gave me samples of rice cereal and told me
To start with that!! Now
I'm questioning her!!

ashleyh8108

I have done SO much research on this topic. My daughter is 4.5 months, and has been showing all the signs of wanting our food! Our doc told us to start cereal a week before she was 4 months. That didn't happen. None of that mess going near my child! So instead, i felt the best option for her to start on would be egg yolk from a hard boiled egg. (Allergies from eggs come from the egg white, not the yolk.)We started this a couple days ago. The eggs should be from free range hens, and organic of course. We just hard boiled it, removed all but the yolk, I mushed it up, added a tiny bit of her formula and sprinkled the tiniest amount of sea salt on it. DD seemed it enjoy it! She took the spoon from my husband and started feeding herself! I think we will introduce avacado next week. Happy feeding yall!

notkateanymore

ashleyh8108 said:

I have done SO much research on this topic. My daughter is 4.5 months, and has been showing all the signs of wanting our food! Our doc told us to start cereal a week before she was 4 months. That didn't happen. None of that mess going near my child! So instead, i felt the best option for her to start on would be egg yolk from a hard boiled egg. (Allergies from eggs come from the egg white, not the yolk.)We started this a couple days ago. The eggs should be from free range hens, and organic of course. We just hard boiled it, removed all but the yolk, I mushed it up, added a tiny bit of her formula and sprinkled the tiniest amount of sea salt on it. DD seemed it enjoy it! She took the spoon from my husband and started feeding herself! I think we will introduce avacado next week. Happy feeding yall!

So somehow in all that research you missed the part about not giving babies salt and that 4.5 months is very young to start solids? Huh.

golfingdarwinfish

Rachylamb123 said:

Nope. He said we could start with cereal but he really wants her on healthy fats for brain growth. He said to do avocado, fish, beans, eggs, and pb if possible. No fruits until 6 months.

@LinnyF‌ Is this a special situation for your child specifically? Eggs and PB are usually not started until at least a year for allergy precautions. And, I'm surprised he wants you to start meat (fish) before fruits. I'm not saying your lying about what he told you, but wondering if that is his general start with everyone or if your LO has a special need for the fatty stuff.

Don't remember where I saw it, but it seems that the trends is moving towards doing these typical allergy-related foods (eggs and pb) earlier instead of waiting. I've also heard to start with meat - like liver. Still makes me nervous. Might try some hard boiled egg though.

This. 12yo DS1's allergist said they are no longer avoiding these types of food for babies like they did years ago. They are to be introduced early. She even recommended early intro for DS2 even though DS1 has peanut allergy/had a milk allergy. I'm still skeptical and holding off solids for a bit. It was a struggle for years with DS1 till things got figured out and I'm not looking forward to a repeat.

I was at a recent academic conference and many of the podium presentations were regarding the prevalence of food allergies in the US vs. other countries. One of the theories is that the previous guidance to delay specific types of foods is actually causing the increase in said allergies.  There are a few studies ex-US regarding this and I am eagerly awaiting the results.  

ashleyh8108

"A little bit of natural sea salt is critical for babies' brain development and digestion." Look it up... Aiding in her brain & digestion development makes perfect sense to me..

golfingdarwinfish

ashleyh8108 said:

"A little bit of natural sea salt is critical for babies' brain development and digestion." Look it up... Aiding in her brain & digestion development makes perfect sense to me..

Source?

ashleyh8108

There are tons of sites about this.. Even saw it in a few books. Here are a few websites, but you may want to look it up for tons of more info. Hope this helps! (Sorry on mobile and do not know how to make it a link)

https://truedemocracyparty.net/2013/08/unrefined-salt-for-babies-salt-for-babies-yes-fresh-baby-bites/


https://www.cravingfresh.com/2010/09/tuesdays-tip-boiled-egg-yolk-is-perfect.html?m=1


https://simplehomemade.net/the-healthful-benefits-of-sea-salt/

ashleyh8108

Another GREAT article about why rice cereal is bad. And talks about egg yolks, starting at FOUR MONTHS


https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/feeding-babies/

cboink

I don't add any kind of salt to my own food. No way in hell is my LO getting salt added to hers. That's crazy talk.

golfingdarwinfish

ashleyh8108 said:

Another GREAT article about why rice cereal is bad. And talks about egg yolks, starting at FOUR MONTHS https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/feeding-babies/

None of these articles are from medical or scientific journals.

I stopped reading the site above when I got to:

"A good rule for pregnant women is liver once a week, at least two eggs per day and 1 teaspoon cod liver oil daily. "

because of this: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0024320596004080

"Vitamin A is a well-established teratogen in several animal species. Case reports as well as a recent epidemiological study suggest that vitamin A intake in excess of 25,000 or 10,000 IU respectively, can result in retinoid-specific defects in the offspring. A single meal of liver contains, on the average, a 10- to 20-fold higher amount of vitamin A than what is already suspected to be teratogenic.... The present study bears on the issue of a possible teratogenic risk of liver consumption, as active retinoids were identified in human plasma, and their levels could be related to previous human studies as well as to experimental studies in sensitive animal species."

canicksmom

We've seen two pediatricians in the last few weeks, and received slightly different advice. The latest doctor mentioned including meats and potential allergens, as a couple of pp have said. I'm going to continue doing research on the newer data, and we've started with avocado in the meantime (DS is not a fan so far). I'm curious what the pediatric GI specialist will tell us next week...