I HATE CLOMID! *Warning*

MrsKJohnson2011

Let's just talk for a second. I got my period then proceeded to take my clomid and do the sex thing every other day on days 5-20! I ovulated and then....

Boobs hurt! Not just a little pain but the "I'm going to cry if you look at my boobs" and a wear a sports bra every second of the day except when showering kind of pain.

I WANT chicken...no....I NEED chicken!

Ew...is that breakfast? That's eggs isn't it? Maybe you should LEAVE THE ROOM...or the house! Just get it away!

Oh and let's not forget the fact that I am peeing every hour on the hour!

Doesn't it sound great!? It's exactly what I wanted! Those symptoms that tell you that there is no way for it to be anything BUT the result of some sticky baby dust....

So last month my cycle was 32 days and before that I got pregnant while taking progesterone to start my period since I had only had one (December) since the miscarriage in October. I'm really not sure when to expect Mother Nature to bless me with that reminder that yet again every symptom I have is just a side effect of the drugs that are supposed to help me achieve my goal. But, one more reassurance is that BFN I have already received!

I'm just so ready to be done with all of this. I want a baby so bad but I cannot handle this excitement and grief every month. The days of crying even when the word "Baby" is mentioned. I'm so exhausted. When I talk about it, people ask how long I've been trying. When I say since August I get the oh so common, "That's not that long! Just relax" speech but let's recount my last 8 months: I got pregnant my first WEEK of trying. I was fresh off of birth control and my husband came home from deployment for 2 weeks to make this happen. It worked. That was August 1st, we lost the pregnancy (Twins and a blighted ovum) on October 14th. I didn't ovulate until February, where I got pregnant on my FIRST day of taking progesterone to start my period! 3 days after I found out I was pregnant I got my period. That cycle (first cycle of clomid) I had the wonderful Morning sickness and nausea along with being extremely sensitive to smells. Good ole Mother nature visited and I began this cycle where I've had all of the above symptoms and a BFN.

Geez! I hate to even ask but is anyone else experiencing this awful cycle of Clomid side effects? Are there any good alternatives? I have an RE consult coming up soon so I'd like a little info going into that. 

LilNugget19

I don't have any experience with Clomid but I just wanted to give you a big ((HUG)). 

MrsKJohnson2011

Thank you! I appreciate it! I love your doggie dog!

rmpar29

First, I'm sorry for your losses and that you find yourself here.  Yes, Clomid and all fertility meds suck and the MF they give you is horrible.  Femara is a great alternative to Clomid that has less side effects for some women. I would speak to your OB/RE about it. 

A couple things for you to know if you are going to stay on this board.  Baby dust is a digusting phase that shouldn't be used anywhere, but especially not on a loss board.  Here, baby dust is the ashes of cremated babies and is very hurtful to other women. 

Also, while I'm happy for you that you got pregnant so quickly, there are many of us that have infertility and it's a slap in the face to hear someone boast about how quickly they conceived.  While I do not think that is how you meant it, it did come across that way. 

buggirl72

Why the warning? Is it because the first part of your post comes across as phishing? There really is nothing warning worthy in your post. Here is a very kind waring to you - expect some flack about what comes across as a phishing post but please realize that everything I am posting comes from a place of kindness and absolute love and respect for the ladies of this board.

I'm sorry for your loss. It looks like you used to post to the April check-in but have not participated much in the board. I'm just letting you know that giving support to others is a big part of this board's culture.

I'm also going to assume that you have not taken the time to lurk much. Baby dust is a highly offensive term to many of us because we had to cremate our children. We kindly request that that term not be used. I understand that you did not mean it in an offensive way and it is pretty common term for other communities. Just letting you know.

As far as clomid side effects: I had hot flashes pre-O. My doctor had me on progesterone afterwards and I had standard PMS side-effects from that. Now, I'm curious as to why you are on clomid? Do you not ovulate on your own? Did your OB do extensive blood work to determine if you really needed clomid?

You have an RE consult coming up so I'm assuming that your OB put you on it.  Since you have no idea when to expect AF, I'm assuming you had no monitoring while on clomid. Proper monitoring includes a baseline u/s on CD3 to make sure you have no cysts and another u/s at CD10 to make sure that you are not over responding to clomid. More u/s could be indicated based on where you are at on the CD10 u/s. Clomid also can thin your lining (very common). Having zero u/s is dangerous. Very dangerous. Please educate yourself on the potential side effects of clomid. I would also stop all medicated cycles until you see your RE. That is what the RE is for.

PinkCamino

buggirl72 said:

Why the warning? Is it because the first part of your post comes across as phishing? There really is nothing warning worthy in your post. Here is a very kind waring to you - expect some flack about what comes across as a phishing post but please realize that everything I am posting comes from a place of kindness and absolute love and respect for the ladies of this board.

I'm sorry for your loss. It looks like you used to post to the April check-in but have not participated much in the board. I'm just letting you know that giving support to others is a big part of this board's culture.

I'm also going to assume that you have not taken the time to lurk much. Baby dust is a highly offensive term to many of us because we had to cremate our children. We kindly request that that term not be used. I understand that you did not mean it in an offensive way and it is pretty common term for other communities. Just letting you know.

As far as clomid side effects: I had hot flashes pre-O. My doctor had me on progesterone afterwards and I had standard PMS side-effects from that. Now, I'm curious as to why you are on clomid? Do you not ovulate on your own? Did your OB do extensive blood work to determine if you really needed clomid?

You have an RE consult coming up so I'm assuming that your OB put you on it.  Since you have no idea when to expect AF, I'm assuming you had no monitoring while on clomid. Proper monitoring includes a baseline u/s on CD3 to make sure you have no cysts and another u/s at CD10 to make sure that you are not over responding to clomid. More u/s could be indicated based on where you are at on the CD10 u/s. Clomid also can thin your lining (very common). Having zero u/s is dangerous. Very dangerous. Please educate yourself on the potential side effects of clomid. I would also stop all medicated cycles until you see your RE. That is what the RE is for.

All of this.

MrsKJohnson2011

*Warning talking about my first PG*
Buggirl72,     thank you for your reply!

I do apologize to every one for using "baby dust" out of context. I have been on other boards who use it in a completely different way than what has been said here. From the bottom of my heart, I am sorry. Now I have to wonder why people keep wishing me "Sticky baby dust" because now that just seems hurtful. I am sorry.

I used to post on the April boards but I have had so many ups and downs that I completely stepped away from all social media and forums for a long time. Hateful comments that make my situation seem like nothing compared to others has completely put me off to forums but in this case, I needed to know if any one has had this type of experience.

I've ovulated once on my own in 9 months (that we can tell). That month was the month that I got pregnant and it was very much by chance. I went off of BC in May and we planned for my husbands leave based off of my ovulation date. My period got longer and longer over the next few months and we didn't think it would happen. It turns out that I ovulated that week anyway (I really don't know how that happened) and it worked. The pregnancy was aweful from the beginning. I knew something was wrong. I couldn't walk sometimes because the cramps were so bad and I lost 15 lbs in weeks 2-5 from being so sick. The pregnancy ended on October 14th. I had my first AF in December and then started the progesterone in February which is when the chemical pregnancy happened.

So yes, rmpar29, I can get pregnant quickly. I just can't stay pregnant. It doesn't make my situation any better or worse than yours. We just have a very different kind of grief.

In the mean time, I had a pelvic ultrasound right after the chemical pregnancy that showed cysts on my ovaries very similar to what would be seen on someone with PCOS. I have not had any ultrasounds to monitor the Clomid which I also thought to be very strange. I'm only on 50mg though so the chance of overstimulation is still low. I also have my FSH, HCG, prolactin, and something else checked on CD3 every month. So far, while on the clomid everything has come back normal. I have looked into the side effects of the Clomid extensively because I don't feel there is any way that these symptoms can be normal. I had the hotflashes and mood swings prior to ovulation each time but the after ovulation symptoms have been very very far away from anything that has been mentioned on the packaging or online.

My RE consult is being order today because I told my doctor I don't want to take the Clomid any longer. She said that they may be able to talk to me about other options to help my body start ovulating normally.

Also, I don't know what phishing is.

Thank you

katib77

If you are going to move forward with and RE for more IF treatments here's a little warning:  Almost every treatment cycle you will feel certain you are PG.  I've done three clomid/IUI cycles, three Injects/IUI cycles, and IVF and an FET.  Trust me, it's the drugs in your system and the reaction of your body to it.  This is how some women feel naturally in a normal non-BFP cycle.  And for IF ladies, we pump ourselves full of extra amounts of all the hormones most women have naturally.  We ask for this in order to have a shot.  Accept that any treatment cycle you could feel like this and it could mean something or nothing.  

This board is wonderful for loss ladies, so I hope you stick around and learn from the helpful suggestions they've given you above in this post.

HeyMrsPotter

MrsKJohnson2011 said:

Let's just talk for a second. I got my period then proceeded to take my clomid and do the sex thing every other day on days 5-20! I ovulated and then....

Boobs hurt! Not just a little pain but the "I'm going to cry if you look at my boobs" and a wear a sports bra every second of the day except when showering kind of pain.

I WANT chicken...no....I NEED chicken!

Ew...is that breakfast? That's eggs isn't it? Maybe you should LEAVE THE ROOM...or the house! Just get it away!

Oh and let's not forget the fact that I am peeing every hour on the hour!

Doesn't it sound great!? It's exactly what I wanted! Those symptoms that tell you that there is no way for it to be anything BUT the result of some sticky baby dust....

So last month my cycle was 32 days and before that I got pregnant while taking progesterone to start my period since I had only had one (December) since the miscarriage in October. I'm really not sure when to expect Mother Nature to bless me with that reminder that yet again every symptom I have is just a side effect of the drugs that are supposed to help me achieve my goal. But, one more reassurance is that BFN I have already received!

I'm just so ready to be done with all of this. I want a baby so bad but I cannot handle this excitement and grief every month. The days of crying even when the word "Baby" is mentioned. I'm so exhausted. When I talk about it, people ask how long I've been trying. When I say since August I get the oh so common, "That's not that long! Just relax" speech but let's recount my last 8 months: I got pregnant my first WEEK of trying. I was fresh off of birth control and my husband came home from deployment for 2 weeks to make this happen. It worked. That was August 1st, we lost the pregnancy (Twins and a blighted ovum) on October 14th. I didn't ovulate until February, where I got pregnant on my FIRST day of taking progesterone to start my period! 3 days after I found out I was pregnant I got my period. That cycle (first cycle of clomid) I had the wonderful Morning sickness and nausea along with being extremely sensitive to smells. Good ole Mother nature visited and I began this cycle where I've had all of the above symptoms and a BFN.

Geez! I hate to even ask but is anyone else experiencing this awful cycle of Clomid side effects? Are there any good alternatives? I have an RE consult coming up soon so I'd like a little info going into that. 

QFP. Just in case.

ikrystal

EurydiceNymph said:

I can't even today. 

OP, I'm sorry for your loss. But please, please please read the blog at the top of the page, lurk a little and heed the advice given to you above. Also, if you are going to remain on this board an Intro would be appreciated and for the love of everything change your avatar from the pregnant lady please. 

This.  Can't even deal with the baby dust comment today as today is our c-section date and our babies ashes are next to my side of the bed. 

gscoville

Others have already addressed many of my issues with your post, so I'd just like to throw this out there. You have actually ovulated on your own, so I really think you should take up temping and charting rather than jumping to further powerful and potentially dangerous fertility drugs/treatments.  You should have started temping and charting long ago, actually, you would probably have caught your 'surprise' ovulations on your charts and realized that you do actually ovulate on your own, and could have avoided the clomid cycles you clearly hate. Lengthening cycles do not automatically mean you aren't ovulating, you clearly still did so even on those kinds of cycles. It was completely irresponsible of your OB to throw you onto clomid like he did, and without all of the testing you should have had beforehand.  I'm glad you're moving on to an RE, but you should still look into charting in the meantime, it will give you just that much more information to take to the RE as you continue the TTC process.  

Also, you say you're so done with "all of this" and can't stand how clomid has made you feel - you do realize that further fertility treatments will likely be similar or even worse in terms of what they do to you?  If you're in such a bad place right now and can't stand the thought of experiencing the more extreme symptoms that go along with TTC, then you just might not be in the right frame of mind to be seeing your RE and pursuing fertility help at this time.  In fact, you should probably seek the help of a therapist or other mental health professional, it's not at all normal or healthy to experience "grief every month" and "days of crying even when the word "Baby" is mentioned".  I've had my share of loss and failed cycles in my 21 months of TTC, but have yet to cry for more than 10 minutes over anything, I can't even imagine doing so for days at the mere mention of a word.  Please get some help before continuing to put yourself through such upheaval and emotional turmoil.

buggirl72

ktlovess said:

OP, there is so much in your post that is ridiculously insensitive, and I can't even today.

Seriously. Re-read your post and think about how it comes off to everyone reading it.

I could care less about what you want to eat/not eat.

@ktloveess - my H finally figured out how to make the best fried chicken in the world. That really is all I could think about when she said she wanted to eat all of the chicken - that fired chicken NEEDS to be on my menu plan this week.

uneek1323

I could really go for a Chick-Fil-A sandwich now. If only they weren't such bigots. 

megrae12

@buggirl72 Nothing beats my mamma's fried chicken. Best. Ever. 

@ktlovess It hurts my heart that you have never had good fried chicken, as a Southerner, I feel as if that is a mortal sin. 

LaRomana09

Okay, I am totally craving fried chicken now.  Also, if you're ever near a Jollibee (they have locations in Queens and throughout CA) you should really try their Chickjoy.  Best fried chicken EVER.

buggirl72

uneek1323 said:

I could really go for a Chick-Fil-A sandwich now. If only they weren't such bigots. 

If I did not already love you, this would clinch it. I refuse to eat there because of their politics. If you are going to shove your bigoted beliefs in my face then I'm not going to shove your chicken in my mouth.

erinrenee777

My side effects have been awful!!!!   complete fatigue! I mean dead tired after 8 hours of sleep, headaches, peeing every 30 min. cramping. no breast soreness though. Got mad at my husband for coughing when i was trying to read ( i am never that moody). I thought i was pregnant but am now on CD49 and got my blood test back negative. Oh Clomid, i hate you and love you. Still not pregnant

HeyMrsPotter

I have no recipes to offer, but do I really want to offer support. So I'll just leave these here.

buggirl72

ktlovess said:

@‌buggirl72 - I have not had decent fried chicken.... Ever. Maybe you should share this recipe

This recipe is what started it all (and the purchase of an electric skillet so we could record the heat). He know makes his own flour/breading mix but I'm not sure what seasoning he puts in. H also soaks the chicken in buttermilk first (for at least one hour).

 
Loveless Fried Chicken Breading
1 Fryer Chicken, (3 pounds or less)
1 cup self-rising flour
1 Tablespoon Loveless Cafe Seasoned Salt (or your favorite)
1/2 teaspoon black pepper
1 1/4 teaspoons garlic powder
Vegetable oil for frying (canola, peanut or even lard if you want to make it like Granny!)
 
Cut chicken into eight pieces.  Rinse pieces in cold water and let them soak in fresh cold salted water for at least 30 minutes. Drain and pat dry. Mix thoroughly flour, seasoned salt, pepper and garlic powder to make the fried chicken flour. If using our Fried Chicken Breading, simply place it in a bowl. Heat 1 inch of vegetable oil (preferably soy, canola or peanut oil) in a large skillet over medium-high heat (375 in an electric skillet). Dredge chicken through the breading, coating well on all surfaces. Pat off excess breading and place chicken in hot oil, making sure pieces are not touching each other. When the chicken is browned (approximately 5 minutes), turn pieces over and reduce heat to medium (300). Cover and cook for 20 minutes. Then remove lid, bring heat back to medium high and turn chicken, cooking an additional 5-7 minutes. Let chicken drain on a paper towel before eating.

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buggirl72

meladoriestar said:

@buggirl72‌ I love Loveless! Their biscuit mix is amazing.

Their biscuits are pretty amazing. When we went, I just sat in the hallway watching them make them.

RedTwizzlers

Ok, ditto everything that bug said. Also, why are you on Clomid if you've only been TTC 8 months and have gotten twice? Just wondering. Don't take Clomid unless you really have to.

buggirl72

RedTwizzlers said:

Ok, ditto everything that bug said. Also, why are you on Clomid if you've only been TTC 8 months and have gotten twice? Just wondering. Don't take Clomid unless you really have to.

She says in her reply that she only ovulated once in 9 months but I'm not sure how accurate that assumption is.

MrsKJohnson2011

erinrenee777, I'm so sorry to hear that you are experiencing this also. Isn't it a joy! NOT! I wish they would at least be honest about it in the side effects section.


To all of you who posted above:

gscoville, Thank you for recommending charting. I was charting before and that is how we found out I was not ovulating. In August when everything started, we weren't serious about trying. We had never tried before but knew that we had been very irresponsible and had never gotten pregnant. I've always had really crazy cycles when off of BC so I really didn't think anything about it. To be completely honest, I was extremely uneducated about fertility, infertility, and everything in between.

I have considered seeking therapy for this but keep shoving it off as my "crazy hormones". I don't have too many days like that but when I do, there are in full swing bad day mode. Maybe they will end soon.

I apologize for sounding insensitive in my post. That is what I am going through. It is how every day is for me. A slap in the face for feeling PG every second of every day and then realizing that it is only the drugs. My heart goes out to all of you who have been feeling like this every day for months and years. It doesn't tell you about this "on the box" and finding a forum that is completely honest about the symptoms experienced is very rare. Your angry comments actually gave me a lot of insight as to what you all are actually going through.

With this post, I was not asking about ways to help me get pregnant or advice on new things I should try. I'm asking for suggestions to alternatives to Clomid. I'm asking if anyone else has experienced the psuedopregnancy style symptoms that have plagued my 2 rounds of Clomid.

Thank you to all of you who have shared your Clomid experiences along with what you are going through during other fertility treatments. I pray that I do not have to go that far with all of this. My issue is honestly in getting my body to perform on it's own along with keeping me pregnant. My first had so much going on, there were no tests to see if a reason could be found for the MC. My second didn't last long enough for me to have any tests. Hopefully, one day, I will be able to experience one that lasts. I hope that we ALL get this experience.

My heart goes out to each and every one of you who are experiencing lost right now and those of you who are in the aftermath.

MrsG80inTN

@meladoriestar - if you like the biscuit mix from Loveless you should try the Jeni's ice cream flavor of Loveless biscuits and peach jam... awesomeness

uneek1323

MrsKJohnson2011 said:

erinrenee777, I'm so sorry to hear that you are experiencing this also. Isn't it a joy! NOT! I wish they would at least be honest about it in the side effects section.


To all of you who posted above:

gscoville, Thank you for recommending charting. I was charting before and that is how we found out I was not ovulating. In August when everything started, we weren't serious about trying. We had never tried before but knew that we had been very irresponsible and had never gotten pregnant. I've always had really crazy cycles when off of BC so I really didn't think anything about it. To be completely honest, I was extremely uneducated about fertility, infertility, and everything in between.

I have considered seeking therapy for this but keep shoving it off as my "crazy hormones". I don't have too many days like that but when I do, there are in full swing bad day mode. Maybe they will end soon.

I apologize for sounding insensitive in my post. That is what I am going through. It is how every day is for me. A slap in the face for feeling PG every second of every day and then realizing that it is only the drugs. My heart goes out to all of you who have been feeling like this every day for months and years. It doesn't tell you about this "on the box" and finding a forum that is completely honest about the symptoms experienced is very rare. Your angry comments actually gave me a lot of insight as to what you all are actually going through.

With this post, I was not asking about ways to help me get pregnant or advice on new things I should try. I'm asking for suggestions to alternatives to Clomid. I'm asking if anyone else has experienced the psuedopregnancy style symptoms that have plagued my 2 rounds of Clomid.

Thank you to all of you who have shared your Clomid experiences along with what you are going through during other fertility treatments. I pray that I do not have to go that far with all of this. My issue is honestly in getting my body to perform on it's own along with keeping me pregnant. My first had so much going on, there were no tests to see if a reason could be found for the MC. My second didn't last long enough for me to have any tests. Hopefully, one day, I will be able to experience one that lasts. I hope that we ALL get this experience.

My heart goes out to each and every one of you who are experiencing lost right now and those of you who are in the aftermath.

Is this not the same thing?  >-)

kaynix21

BFP and Loss Mentioned....

Clomid was the WORST. WORST WORST WORST. Ever.

F*ck clomid. 

We got a BFP on cycle 2 of clomid, and the MC 10 days later. But both cycles on clomid I was miserable and had all those symptoms you're describing. 

buggirl72

@uneek1323 - I'm guessing the OP is looking for something with less side effects than the clomid and maybe gives you less of a MF every cycle.

OP, I agree that your replies shed a lot more light on your situation. May I suggest that you edit your siggy to show your history? It really is helpful if you plan on staying around this community.

I hope you get some answers from your RE and a definitive DX of what is going on with you.

ikrystal

EurydiceNymph thank you

Poppy715

Sign me up for the fried chicken. Just sayin.

gscoville

ktlovess said:

Someone has to send me this Loveless biscuit mix. I feel like I am missing out here in good ol' Alberta

Me too, never heard of it here in BC!

luciddreamer106

Um, don't hate me everyone, but UO.... I don't like fried chicken. Blah.



OP, femara has less side effects than clomid does. Medication that is going to enhance/induce ovulation is likely to give you stronger MF/PMS symptoms. Since you don't ovulate regularly, you're probably not used to the regular PMS symptoms and they are made worse by clomid. I second the idea of you getting a blog.

Next time you go asking for advice like this, please give more history and background info. Plus, give support to get support.

kflynn81

ikrystal said:

EurydiceNymph said:

I can't even today. 

OP, I'm sorry for your loss. But please, please please read the blog at the top of the page, lurk a little and heed the advice given to you above. Also, if you are going to remain on this board an Intro would be appreciated and for the love of everything change your avatar from the pregnant lady please. 

This.  Can't even deal with the baby dust comment today as today is our c-section date and our babies ashes are next to my side of the bed. 

((hugs)) 

kflynn81

#1)   Mmmm chicken...

#2)  I hated Clomid too but what was worse was everything that followed after it the next two years. It could be worse, chin up buttercup

kaynix21

Oh and I took femara after the two clomid cycles and I had pretty much zero side effects.