Trouble TTC

Can't even describe my feels right now

I was so happy I got a referral authorization last week, I e-mailed the referral to the RE.  I figured all would be ok, but that would be false.  I got a call from the RE that they can't use the referral because the diagnosis that is on there is Metrorrhagia.  Which when I look that up, it doesn't apply to me at all.  And I asked if they could see me if it said PCOS (which is more accurate, obviously), she said that it was a gynecological issue, and they could only see me if it said "global infertility".  I want to get pregnant, yes, but it is probably more important to me at this point to know I have gotten a true diagnosis, and I thought an RE would/could do that.

I'm mad/ready to cry/confused, all at the same time.  I don't even know how to argue this.

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Me: 30, PCOS-non IR, Annovulatory; DH: 31, SA normal :)
Testing Completed! HSG Clear, Ovarian Reserve score 17, Elevated Testosterone, everything else normal so far
 Clomid 150mg + HCG + IUI #1 May/June 2014 (BFN)
Clomid 150 mg + HCG + IUI #2 July 2014 (BFN)
Femara 2.5mg + Estrace + HCG + IUI #3 Cancelled d/t no response
Moving on to IVF with ICSI after break to lose weight.
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My Ovulation Chart

Re: Can't even describe my feels right now

  • Ugh.  Sorry.  That is so frustrating.

    So the RE will not see you unless it says "infertility" or he will see you but your insurance won't cover it?  Is there another RE who might take your referral as is? 

    Sorry you are dealing with this.  ((hugs))

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    Me 32 :: DH 41

     TTC since November, 2011

    DH's SA : Excellent

    Lap and Hysteroscopy June 2012

    DX: PCOS, Stage III Endo, slight Adenomyosis, blocked tube, and probable LPD

    Treatments:  6 Months Lupron Depot injections; 1500 mg metformin; 3 cycles of Clomid + TI = BFN

    3 endometrial biopsies all were "out of phase" 

    September - December, 2013:  Break to lose weight and get healthy

    40 lb weight loss but still not ovulating "in phase"  

    February - March 2014: bcps + follistim + trigger + TI = BFP

     Beta #1 (12dpo): 30; Beta #2 (18dpo): 500; Beta #3 (25dpo): 7,000!!! 

    1st u/s 4/16: One beautiful hb at 144 bmp 

    2nd u/s 4/29: hb at 166 bmp.  Graduated from RE!!

    TEAM PINK! 

    Baby girl arrived on Thanksgiving day weighing 7lbs 6oz and measuring 20 inches

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  • He can only see me if the diagnosis is infertility, per his HMO contract.  He could still see me, but insurance wouldn't pick any of it up.  I just spoke with his insurance person, and she said the referral coordinator at my OB gave me wrong information that I'd have to wait a year to get "global infertility" regardless of not ovulating or having periods without medication.  So I may be able to get this fixed, but its probably going to require a ton of frustration/bitching on my part.

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    Me: 30, PCOS-non IR, Annovulatory; DH: 31, SA normal :)
    Testing Completed! HSG Clear, Ovarian Reserve score 17, Elevated Testosterone, everything else normal so far
     Clomid 150mg + HCG + IUI #1 May/June 2014 (BFN)
    Clomid 150 mg + HCG + IUI #2 July 2014 (BFN)
    Femara 2.5mg + Estrace + HCG + IUI #3 Cancelled d/t no response
    Moving on to IVF with ICSI after break to lose weight.
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    My Ovulation Chart
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  • I actually normally love my HMO.  And once I get all of this approved, its going to be absolutely amazeballs when it comes to coverage.  It's just getting the approval that is a bitch right now.  

    I do understand why this is difficult, they don't want to pay for people who are simply impatient and wanting to do IVF right off the bat.  But, it wouldn't be so awful if RCs were using the correct codes!

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    Me: 30, PCOS-non IR, Annovulatory; DH: 31, SA normal :)
    Testing Completed! HSG Clear, Ovarian Reserve score 17, Elevated Testosterone, everything else normal so far
     Clomid 150mg + HCG + IUI #1 May/June 2014 (BFN)
    Clomid 150 mg + HCG + IUI #2 July 2014 (BFN)
    Femara 2.5mg + Estrace + HCG + IUI #3 Cancelled d/t no response
    Moving on to IVF with ICSI after break to lose weight.
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    My Ovulation Chart
  • I'm sorry you're dealing with that!  I didn't have to get a referral...is it because your insurance covers procedures?  All my insurance covers is the testing and diagnostic.

    DH: 34  
    Aug 2013 - SA: Counts & Motility = great, Morph = 1%; RE didn't seem too concerned

    Me: 26
    Jan. 2014 - Blood work ordered by obgyn:  Prolactin = high & AMH = low (0.73)
    Feb. 6, 2014 - Repeat blood work ordered by obgyn:  Prolactin = normal & AMH = low (0.9)
    Feb.  20, 2014 - First appointment with RE
    Feb. 24, 2014 - HSG scheduled;  DX:  one tube definitely open & one tube could be blocked
    Mar. 7, 2014 - CD 21 Blood work for Progesterone; DX:  Progesterone level at 5.2; shows I ovulated but was low
    Mar. 28, 2014 - Laparoscopy; DX:  Tubes open.  Found some endometriosis and had that removed.
     
    History:
    Started TTC:  June 2012
    June 2012 - March 2013:  When it Happens/it happens method = BFN
    March 2013:  Started using Fertility Friend
    Cycles 1 - 15 with Fertility Friend = BFN
    Cycle 16 - Benched due to Laparoscopy
    Cycle 17 - Natural Cycle = BFN
    Cycle 18 - Natural Cycle = BFN
    Cycle 19 - Natural Cycle = BFN
     

    Current Cycle:
    Cycle 20 = Natural Cycle


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  • Find a doctor willing to work with you as far as getting coverage. I'm sure you can find an RE that wants to get paid enough to help you on the paperwork. I'm sorry you have to deal with all of this. I'm in the same boat. If I want anything covered for IF, I have to pay OOP. It's disheartening, I know. Good luck (((hugs)))
    Love 2010 | Marriage 2011 | TTC #1 since 2012
    PCOS | Anovulatory | Metformin + Letrozole
  • I'm sorry you're dealing with that!  I didn't have to get a referral...is it because your insurance covers procedures?  All my insurance covers is the testing and diagnostic.

    Yes, they cover procedures. Any outpatient procedures, I will have zero copay. Inpatient will be $500 copay. It's amazing coverage, and luckily, I do have the time to wait for it to be covered if I end up needing it.

    I think I can get this straightened out, I just need to get to the right people to change the bullshit diagnosis they plugged in. I am lucky in that my MD agreed to at least test me for insulin resistance (I go in tomorrow for the bloodwork), so I am hoping if that comes back abnormal, it won't be a problem to get put on Metformin in the meantime.

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    Me: 30, PCOS-non IR, Annovulatory; DH: 31, SA normal :)
    Testing Completed! HSG Clear, Ovarian Reserve score 17, Elevated Testosterone, everything else normal so far
     Clomid 150mg + HCG + IUI #1 May/June 2014 (BFN)
    Clomid 150 mg + HCG + IUI #2 July 2014 (BFN)
    Femara 2.5mg + Estrace + HCG + IUI #3 Cancelled d/t no response
    Moving on to IVF with ICSI after break to lose weight.
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    My Ovulation Chart
  • Good news is--there are plenty of drs out there, you don't necessarily have to se an RE at this point, many OBGYNs and nurse practitioners can start the process for you, testing, bloodwork, procedures like HSGs. Also a new doctor could give you a diff referral. . Good Luck! O:-)



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    DH= burn vic, abn sa MFI|| ME= PCOS, Sarcoidosis, Hypohyroidism HSG-OK
    tried naturally 2011 & 2012-
    TTC with nurse practitioner 2013
    2 clomid cycles- both bfn, started seeing RE 2013 
    FEBUARY PLAN-HSG|| March Game plan-FEMARA IUI+TRIGGER 
    MARCH-BFP (beta1;104-beta2;302)-bc of hsg
    [[all welcome !!!!!!!!!!!! ]]
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  • @pcrumley‌

    I have an HMO, and they require an RE to go any further. I did find out that the problem is just with the particular RE I was given the referral to. He can only see for fertility (Solely trying to get pregnant. They are going to refer me to another RE who will be able to see me for PCOS/amenorrhea. I'm finally getting somewhere!

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    Me: 30, PCOS-non IR, Annovulatory; DH: 31, SA normal :)
    Testing Completed! HSG Clear, Ovarian Reserve score 17, Elevated Testosterone, everything else normal so far
     Clomid 150mg + HCG + IUI #1 May/June 2014 (BFN)
    Clomid 150 mg + HCG + IUI #2 July 2014 (BFN)
    Femara 2.5mg + Estrace + HCG + IUI #3 Cancelled d/t no response
    Moving on to IVF with ICSI after break to lose weight.
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    My Ovulation Chart
  • Good luck then. :))



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    DH= burn vic, abn sa MFI|| ME= PCOS, Sarcoidosis, Hypohyroidism HSG-OK
    tried naturally 2011 & 2012-
    TTC with nurse practitioner 2013
    2 clomid cycles- both bfn, started seeing RE 2013 
    FEBUARY PLAN-HSG|| March Game plan-FEMARA IUI+TRIGGER 
    MARCH-BFP (beta1;104-beta2;302)-bc of hsg
    [[all welcome !!!!!!!!!!!! ]]
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