Trouble TTC

Step One of TTTC/ A Sort of Introduction?

Hey Everyone,

A little (fertility) history and a few questions.

I was diagnosed with Endo in the fall.  The Endo that was found was primarily in the form of erosion on my pelvic walls.  There was a small spot of Endo he was able to laser deep in my pelvis but otherwise there really wasn't much to be done during the lap because of the type of Endo damage found. 

As of the lap in October my ovaries looked healthy and my uterus was free of Endo.  However, he suspects I have Adenomyosis due to the pinkness of my uterus.  My tubes were declared good to go after the blue dye procedure.

DH is due to have a SA in the next week or two.  He is a twin and his twin's wife is also having trouble getting pregnant.  When twin was tested two times his SA has come out good to go so we are keeping our fingers crossed.

As of my WTF appointment on Monday the OB wants to try a cycle or two of Clomid before sending me on to the specialist.  I asked if this was a good idea given the fact that (as far as I know) I am ovulating. (Or at least my period is regular and I have always gotten positive OPKs...) I was also concerned about uterine lining thinning or the Clomid fueling estrogen issues.  He said it's "just not usually" an issue.  He said I would start the Clomid on Day 3 and do an ultrasound to monitor on Day 11.

I am skeptical about the Clomid but since we have NO insurance coverage, I don't know if this is something we should give a shot before moving on.  (Assuming DH's test is normal of course...)

Any feedback about Endo/Adeno treatment would be sooo appreciated. 

Me: 27 DH: 27

October 2013: Endo erosion/ Clear HSG

March 2014: SA #1/  2%morph, borderline sperm count, decent motility

June 2014: SA#2/  2% morph, low sperm count, worse motility

Plan: "Quick Start IVF"/antagonist protocol with Follistim, Ganirelix, Ovidrel and progesterone suppositories (yay)

High AMH (11) and Low BMI= low doses of everything to prevent OHSS

July 27, 2014: Started Follistim injections for ten days

July 31, 2014: U/S= 20 follicles, 8.5 lining, E2 is good, Ganirelix for 4 days starting 8/2

August 4, 2014: 14 follicles on-track, good lining, Trigger 8/6

August 9, 2014: 9 ICSIed/ 5 embryos; aiming for a 5dt on 8/13

August 13, 2014: 5DT of 1 4BA almost-hatching blastocyst (Please hang in, Little Bug!)

August 14, 2014: We have 3 frosties! Hope they're having fun hanging out together. :)

August 23, 2014: Beta #1: 144 8/23/14: Beta #2: 374 Beta 8/25/14  Beta #3: 6,600 9/3/14

September 9, 2014: Ultrasound #1 115 heartbeats per minute

September 23, 2014: Ultrasound #2 182 heartbeats per minute 

September 26, 2014: Love my OB's office

October 10, 2014: Our baby looks like a baby and is moving all over!  

December 8, 2014: Anatomy scan- It's a girl! 


"Hope strengthens.  Fear kills."- Karen Marie Moning

"Heaviness is only temporary; the daylight will soon break in."- needtobreathe

Re: Step One of TTTC/ A Sort of Introduction?

  • pcrumleypcrumley member
    edited March 2014
    Usually clomid is covered under insurance, for the most part, they have generic for 10$ if you don't have insurance at all? TTC could get quite costly for you, clomids increase your chances of twins, and since twins carry maternally not paternally your husband could father twins, that's kind of cool :) are you seeing an RE or an ob, and with the blue dye test are you referring to an hsg? Doing a cycle can't necessarily hurt, if you and your husband have been trying and nothing's worked, clomid will thin your lining and make you produce more eggs, also make your body ovulate if you aren't regular. . They can also give you something to thicken your lining more if this is your concern. With the clomid monitoring are you getting an ultrasound done or just bloodwork ? - @LO95‌



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    DH= burn vic, abn sa MFI|| ME= PCOS, Sarcoidosis, Hypohyroidism HSG-OK
    tried naturally 2011 & 2012-
    TTC with nurse practitioner 2013
    2 clomid cycles- both bfn, started seeing RE 2013 
    FEBUARY PLAN-HSG|| March Game plan-FEMARA IUI+TRIGGER 
    MARCH-BFP (beta1;104-beta2;302)-bc of hsg
    [[all welcome !!!!!!!!!!!! ]]
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  • I believe that the blue dye test OP refers to is the one they do for tubal patency during laparoscopic procedures.

    I am also not an expert in pelvic erosion, but from what you've described, it sounds like your endo was effecting mostly your abdominal cavity and not specifically any of your reproductive organs (not on ovaries, tubes, or uterus). For that reason, I do not know if Clomid would have a further weakening effect on your abdominal cavity.

     If you are seeing an OB, I would ask at least to be referred to an RE for a consult about your condition. They would be able to go over the pros and cons of different options and how your current condition effects your chances for each option. Good Luck.

  • That's what I meant, @NariaDreaming‌ lol I just wrote wrong that's why I mentioned options to thicken at the end lol, my bad



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    DH= burn vic, abn sa MFI|| ME= PCOS, Sarcoidosis, Hypohyroidism HSG-OK
    tried naturally 2011 & 2012-
    TTC with nurse practitioner 2013
    2 clomid cycles- both bfn, started seeing RE 2013 
    FEBUARY PLAN-HSG|| March Game plan-FEMARA IUI+TRIGGER 
    MARCH-BFP (beta1;104-beta2;302)-bc of hsg
    [[all welcome !!!!!!!!!!!! ]]
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  • Clomid's pretty cheap.  I have absolutely zero coverage for anything infertility related and I paid $27 for 7 days of Clomid.  All of the monitoring appointments add up very quickly though at around $150 a pop.  I do pay at the time of my visits and get 20% off.  You should ask your OB if they offer something like that.

    I also second going to an RE for a consult on your condition.
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    Me:36 DH:40
    Married since May, 2012; TTC since September, 2012
    DX: Blocked Fallopian Tube, Hashimoto's
    March 2014 - Clomid, Trigger, TI = BFN, April 2014 - Clomid, Trigger, TI = BFN, May 2014 - Clomid, estrogen, trigger, IUI = BFN, June & July 2014 - Natural cycles = BFN, August 2014 - Femara, estrogen, trigger, IUI = BFN, September 2014 - Femara, estrogen, trigger, IUI = BFN
    Prepping for IVF in with ER/ET slated for early February


  • Hey! I'm sorry that you have to be here but welcome to the group.

    I have read that Clomid may not be the best choice for people with endometriosis, but I can't remember where I read it so I can't say for sure whether it was a valid source or not. I do know that my RE does not like to use Clomid. If we had started with oral medication, he would have prescribed Femara for me instead. It sounds like your OB is going to do the proper monitoring, but my concern would be whether or not an OB knows if Clomid is the best option for you. I feel like an RE would be better equipped to make that call. Do some research and see if you can back up what I said and if so, just ask your doctor if you could try Femara. 

    Good luck moving forward!
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    Married July 2011 * TTC #1 since 8/12 * Me: 29 DH: 29
    21 Cycles TI: BFNs
    DX: Stage 2 Endo, uterine polyps and paratubal cysts removed
    2/14: IVF #1 Lupron Protocol = 12R/10M/9F, no frosties; transferred one 3BB blast = BFN
    4/14: IVF #2 Antagonist Protocol = 18R/16M/15F/6 frosties; transferred one 4BB blast = BFP!!
    Beta #1 (5/12) = 232 Beta #2 (5/16) = 886 Beta #3 (5/20) = 3168
    EDD 1/18/15 It's a BOY 

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