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A few IVF questions

So we had our consult today to discuss our failed iui's and moving on to IVF and one of the things the Re said was that he didn't think I would produce a lot of eggs based on my ------ number, which was 8...I don't remember what it was since there was a lot of info given. Any idea what this could be referencing? Also, I see a lot of girls mention they are taking birth control pills before IVF and my Re didn't mention that at all so I'm just wondering if this is regular protocol and he just didn't mention it (I obviously have to attend an IVF info session prior to cycling) or if not everyone takes bcp? Thanks for any help....just feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the info received today!

Me: 37 | DH: 41
TTC Since 2011 DX: Unexplained 
IUI's #1 - 3 = BFN
IVF August 2014: FSH 4.1, PRL 15.3, TSH 2.1, W/ AFC 8.
 08/03 ER 5R, 4M, 3F. 08/08 5DT of 1-3AA0, 2 frozen :) bfp @9dp5dt. Beta on 08/20 = 414.
So excited to have one little bean on the way!!
 
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Re: A few IVF questions

  • 8 is probably your AFC - antral follicle count. It's the number of follicles you have at the beginning of a cycle. In a non medicated cycle, typically only one follicle will reach maturity. In a medicated cycle, the goal is to get as many of those antral follicles to grow to maturity so that a good quality egg can be retrieved. Your AFC is the maximum number of eggs that can be retrieved in that cycle (though sometimes there are some follicles hiding that show up during stims).

    BCPs are usually prescribed to give your ovaries a rest and make sure you don't have any cysts. My nurse also described it as freezing your ovaries and keeping all of those antral follies on deck. Maybe since your AFC is on the low side, the doctor doesn't want to suppress you too much. That's just a guess though. It is possible that they just didn't mention it to you.
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    DX: Stage 2 Endo, uterine polyps and paratubal cysts removed
    2/14: IVF #1 Lupron Protocol = 12R/10M/9F, no frosties; transferred one 3BB blast = BFN
    4/14: IVF #2 Antagonist Protocol = 18R/16M/15F/6 frosties; transferred one 4BB blast = BFP!!
    Beta #1 (5/12) = 232 Beta #2 (5/16) = 886 Beta #3 (5/20) = 3168
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  • Thank you for the information, I think you're right about the AFC!

    Me: 37 | DH: 41
    TTC Since 2011 DX: Unexplained 
    IUI's #1 - 3 = BFN
    IVF August 2014: FSH 4.1, PRL 15.3, TSH 2.1, W/ AFC 8.
     08/03 ER 5R, 4M, 3F. 08/08 5DT of 1-3AA0, 2 frozen :) bfp @9dp5dt. Beta on 08/20 = 414.
    So excited to have one little bean on the way!!
     
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  • I agree it was probably AFC he was referencing.  

    As for BCP, there are several types of protocol.  Antagonist is common (with BCPs prior) but there are those that do lupron prior to suppress.  Sorry since I've always done antagonist, I don't remember what the other kind is called.  If he didn't mention BCP, did he mention lupron or some other form of suppression?  

    TTC since July 2009. Dx MFI & LPD. 
    IUI#1&2&3 (2011 & 2012) BFN
    IUI#4 1/23/13 on 75iu x9 Follistim = BFP then chem preg m/c (Feb 2013)
    IUI#5 BFN (April 2013)
    IVF w/ICSI Oct. 2, 2012 - 13R, 11M, 7F, 1 frozen blast 4BB grade - - - FET Nov 15, 2013
    BFP! Beta 1:104 @ 10dp6dt, Beta 2:178 @ 12dp6dt,  beta 3:366 @ 14dp6dt
    Saw heartbeat twice before missed M/C at 8w3d on 12/27/13, missing my little angel boy
    JUNE 2014 IVF#2;  5R, 2M, 1F Three day transfer 6/7.  Beta 6/18 - BFN
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  • I was not prescribed BCPS with my IVF cycle... I had what they call "a natural start" because I had a very low AFC and don't stim well.  MY RE didn't want to supress me anymore because I was already naturally supressed. 
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    Me:36 DH:38 TTC#1 since 4/2012
    Me DX: Hashimotos,Hypothyroid, DOR, MTHFR,  DH: normal

     IUI #1-#4 BFNs and a few cancelled cycles in the mix.
    - poor responder
    ***Suprise BFP on 6/13/13. Natural MC @6wks 3days
    IVF#1 and 2- Cancelled due to no response on max stimms
    FET 5/20- BFP
    1st Beta- 641
    2nd beta- 2166
    Sono- TWINS!!!!
    Two Boys! Born January 2015 @36 weeks.  Healthy and no NICU!  So blessed!



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  • Hi ksgsmu...just out of curiosity, what would be considered "very low AFC"? My Re didn't seem extremely concerned about my number but he did say it was somewhat of a concern and he hoped we could get 8 eggs...

    Me: 37 | DH: 41
    TTC Since 2011 DX: Unexplained 
    IUI's #1 - 3 = BFN
    IVF August 2014: FSH 4.1, PRL 15.3, TSH 2.1, W/ AFC 8.
     08/03 ER 5R, 4M, 3F. 08/08 5DT of 1-3AA0, 2 frozen :) bfp @9dp5dt. Beta on 08/20 = 414.
    So excited to have one little bean on the way!!
     
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  • Milagros315Milagros315 member
    edited February 2014
    I found the info on this site very helpful:

    https://www.advancedfertility.com/antralfollicles.htm

    Some of it is data from their clinic only (not a general average) but the information is good and easy to understand.
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    Married July 2011 * TTC #1 since 8/12 * Me: 29 DH: 29
    21 Cycles TI: BFNs
    DX: Stage 2 Endo, uterine polyps and paratubal cysts removed
    2/14: IVF #1 Lupron Protocol = 12R/10M/9F, no frosties; transferred one 3BB blast = BFN
    4/14: IVF #2 Antagonist Protocol = 18R/16M/15F/6 frosties; transferred one 4BB blast = BFP!!
    Beta #1 (5/12) = 232 Beta #2 (5/16) = 886 Beta #3 (5/20) = 3168
    EDD 1/18/15 It's a BOY 

    ~~~~~~ All Are Welcome ~~~~~~

  • Sounds like the ladies above answered your questions very well :) I'll just add that I only used BCPs for two of my three IVF cycles.
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    Me: 32 DH: 35  TTC#1 since March 2012
    Dx: Poor Embryo Quality, Arcuate Uterus, Poor Uterine Blood Flow, Mild Endo, 
           Protein S Deficiency, Sjorgen's Syndrome 

    IUI #1-5: BFN
    Laparoscopy & Hysteroscopy: minimal endo, partial septoplasty
    IVF #1: 10R/6M/6F ~ Day 3 ET = BFN
    IVF #2: 14R/9M/5F ~ transfer canceled ~ all embryos arrested at 1-2 cell stage
    IVF #3: 9R/5M/5F ~ 1 frosty!
    IVF #4 (FET #1): BFN

    IVF #5 (DE IVF #1 with Dr. KK protocol): Currently PREGNANT!!!!!!
    Synthroid + Prednisone + Metformin + Baby Aspirin + Supplements Galore = 15+ pills a day
    Lupron + Lovenox + Delestrogen + IVIG + B/W = 2-5 pokes a day
    19R, 17M, 17F - transferred two Grade A blasts 11/16, four frosties!!!
    Beta #1 11/24 (13dpo/8dp5dt) = 367 ~ Beta #2 11/26 (15dpo/10dp5dt) = 709
    Beta #3 11/29 (18dpo/13dp5dt) = 1,997 ~ Beta #4 12/1 (20dpo/15dp5dt) = 3,403

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  • Canuck are you in canada? I'm in Alberta, we are being followed in Calgary.
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    Parents to fur babies Tiki and Gizzmo and 2yr old Georgia
    IF veterans; #1 conceived on second clomid+HCG+IUI, #2 conceived on 1st Letrozole+HCG+IUI
    EDD: Feb 5, 2018


  • Yep, I'm in Ontario :)

    Me: 37 | DH: 41
    TTC Since 2011 DX: Unexplained 
    IUI's #1 - 3 = BFN
    IVF August 2014: FSH 4.1, PRL 15.3, TSH 2.1, W/ AFC 8.
     08/03 ER 5R, 4M, 3F. 08/08 5DT of 1-3AA0, 2 frozen :) bfp @9dp5dt. Beta on 08/20 = 414.
    So excited to have one little bean on the way!!
     
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