Baby Showers

Need Advice

chrissy1013chrissy1013 member
edited February 2014 in Baby Showers

Hi all,

Sorry for the length......................

DH and I are expecting twin boys in June after a 4 year struggle with IF.  My side of the family is so excited after all of our struggles and these babies will be the first grandchildren.  My mom, aunts and SIL (brother's wife) are going all out and throwing a big shower for us at the end of March.  We are so excited and can't wait to celebrate.

My in-laws got upset when hearing about the shower my side is throwing because we are not inviting their extended family.  We are including my MIL, 3 SILs and 2 nieces from that side but no cousins or aunts.  DH is not close with any of his extended family and none of them are local, so we didn't see the issue.  Plus, I felt that if they felt the need to include the extended family, they had two options - 1) host something specific to that side of the family or 2) call my mom and offer to assist in throwing the larger shower and then invite the extended family.

Last night I got a call complaining that I am being difficult in excluding their extended family and should be more flexible.  DH responded that we are not hosting the shower that my side is throwing and typically the hosts, who pay for the shower, get to dictate the guest list.  He repeated that he is not close with any of that family and they are free to plan something for that side separately.  Later on in the evening, I got a text message saying that now they are hoping to do something for their side the day before the other shower and we need to hold it at our house.  Um....DH and I just moved into a new home and have scheduled painters to come during that time.  Plus, I'm exhausted with this pregnancy and am really not up to playing hostess.  My SIL lives 20 minutes away, so can't we do it there?  Or even at a restaurant?  I should have never mentioned the restaurant option because my side of the family owns and runs a restaurant.  Now they want to do it there, but not pay for anything.  I can't ask my family to cover that expense.  Plus, Saturday nights are typically very busy at the restaurant and I don't want to take up space and cost the restaurant other business.  Honestly, I have a hard time picturing my family serving free food to his family when they are being so difficult and cheap about this whole issue.  To top it off, we were told that the extended family will not travel to attend this shower, but will just send gifts.  So then why are we even bothering to do this?  The gifts would be great, but this drama is just not really worth it.  Unfortunately, my doctor advised me not to travel more than one hour from the hospital beginning at 24 weeks, so traveling to where the extended famliy is located is not an option.

Any ideas on how to handle this?  I told them I did not want to do it at my family's restaurant as I'm fairly certain that all Saturday evenings in March were busy with catering and party reservations.  I'm not trying to be picky, but I just don't want it at our house or our restaurant.  To me, that doesn't seem unreasonable.  But is it?  I'm just hoping things go better than at the bridal shower my family threw where my in-laws were very put off by the gifts and how many people attended.  They thought it was over the top and unnecessary.  I come from a large and very close family.  It's just how we do things.  Sadly, I wish they just wouldn't attend.....  :(

 

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  • my in-laws were very put off buy the gifts and how many people attended.  They thought it was over the top and unnecessary.  I come from a large and very family. 

     

    But yet they want you to invite even MORE people?  Really?  So, basically, they want their cake and eat it too.

    Honey- you're never going to win with them.  So really, even more reason to stop trying! 
  • Darbie914 said:
    I agree that your ILs are being very difficult.  Honestly, I would tell them that the restaurant is not an option and that your home will not be party-ready at that time.  Having a shower at your family's restaurant but not paying is the same as having your family host a 2nd shower.  Not acceptable and I find it to be pretty rude that they even suggested it.

    I'd have your DH play defense on this one and tell them that restaurant/new home is out as far as venues.   If they would still like to host a shower, they will have to find another place.  Otherwise, thank you but no thank you.

    Kudos to your DH for standing up to them and informing them that you guys have zero say about the guest list!  It's always good to have that support.

    DH is doing everything he can to keep my stress level down right now, so he absolutely took the lead last night.  I think that's why they decided to start texting me to get around him since they didn't like the answers he was providing.  Thanks for letting me know your also feel it's rude one their part to suggest our house or restaurant.  Lately, I've been having trouble figuring out my feelings and not overreacting with all of these pregnancy hormones charging through me.  Thanks!
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  • chrissy1013chrissy1013 member
    edited February 2014
    VOR said:
    chrissy1013 said:

    DH is doing everything he can to keep my stress level down right now, so he absolutely took the lead last night.  I think that's why they decided to start texting me to get around him since they didn't like the answers he was providing. 
    ANd I hope he keeps stepping up.  The bolded?  HE needs to shut that shit down.  YOU need to not respond and he needs to contact them and tell them to stop.  You have more important things to worry about than this shower.  If they want to throw a shower for their side, then they can do so w/o involving the two of you OR your family.  He needs to tell them "Check dates with us. Other than that, we want nothing to do with this.". 
    He was so irritated when the texting started and told me to stop being nice to them about things.  You are right that I need to not respond.  I responded by saying that our house/restaurant were not an option and that I had to go because I wasn't feeling well.  I was honestly very exhausted after a long day at work and didn't want to deal with it.  Going forward, we will close that loophole too!
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  • dufferoodufferoo member
    edited February 2014
    Yeah, all you can do is refuse to engage them in discussion about this. Here's a line for you: "I'm sorry, but that just won't work." Repeat it as much as you need to. That's the nice thing about texting: it's so easy to be straightforward and curt.
  • chrissy1013 said:

    He was so irritated when the texting started and told me to stop being nice to them about things.  You are right that I need to not respond.  I responded by saying that our house/restaurant were not an option and that I had to go because I wasn't feeling well.  I was honestly very exhausted after a long day at work and didn't want to deal with it.  Going forward, we will close that loophole too!
    Rock on DH!!!

    And really, your response was fine.  Just moving forward, know that it's OK to not respond at all or just say "no".

    Good luck.  You're in a good spot in that your DH clearly has your back. 
  • @jociejones - I like that line.  Will have to put it to good use!

    @jennish11 - Thanks for your support and kind wishes.  We knew that my ILs would never be supportive during our struggles, so they just found out now that we are pregnant.  I think that was the right decision in order to keep sanity in our home.  And you are right, the way they are offering to host at our house or restaurant, completely negates the concept of hosting!

    @VOR - I just spoke to DH and liked the "Rock On" comment!  He definitely has my back and I am so thankful for that.  The beginning of our marriage was tough when it came to family relationships and we certainly had our growing pains, but it's great that we are on the same page now.  :)

     

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  • So... they want a big lavish party that includes their whole extended family, but it needs to be paid for by your family, or hosted in your home, or gratis- again, courtesy of your family?  For once, it sounds like gift-grabby and selfish ILs instead of a MTB! High fives for realizing the tackiness of it all and putting your foot down to them.  Sorry they're being difficult, but I think you're doing all you can.  Just keep shutting it down and explaining that you are not hosting your own shower, and therefore have no say in what happens regarding the guest list of it.  For that same reason, you will not have "their shower" at your home or family restaurant.  Make it clear that you realize this could mean no second shower, and that you're okay with that.  I'd even end it with, "The stress that this is causing me is not healthy for me or the babies right now, so I'd appreciate it if you could direct any further issues to DH".
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  • Don't have anything to say that these wonderful ladies haven't already said. Just...HOLY SMOKES. They cray cray.
     
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  • Dude, you are being conned, scammed, tricked big time. They want to have a big party on some one else's dime and they will push, guilt and manipulate anyone they can in order to do it.  You shouldn't feel bad, you should be insulted because they honestly sound like they think you are either stupid or a huge pushover.   I mean really ??  They want your family to pay for another party and supply all the food ?  Who in their right mind would think that is remotely ok ?  

    Do not stand for this, not for a single minute.  Let these a-holes get mad.  Better them than your family.  
  • @MrsLee04 - That is another line I will have to keep on repeat. It's respectful but to the point!

    @RibbitGr930 - Love the cray cray comment!  I totally agree!

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  • chrissy1013chrissy1013 member
    edited February 2014
    So... they want a big lavish party that includes their whole extended family, but it needs to be paid for by your family, or hosted in your home, or gratis- again, courtesy of your family?  For once, it sounds like gift-grabby and selfish ILs instead of a MTB! High fives for realizing the tackiness of it all and putting your foot down to them.  Sorry they're being difficult, but I think you're doing all you can.  Just keep shutting it down and explaining that you are not hosting your own shower, and therefore have no say in what happens regarding the guest list of it.  For that same reason, you will not have "their shower" at your home or family restaurant.  Make it clear that you realize this could mean no second shower, and that you're okay with that.  I'd even end it with, "The stress that this is causing me is not healthy for me or the babies right now, so I'd appreciate it if you could direct any further issues to DH".


    There was similar nonsense with our wedding too.  We went over the guest list with them (my parents, DH and I paid for the wedding) and then AFTER invitations went out, MIL wanted a bunch more of her friends invited.  I was livid, she claimed we never cleared the list with her, which we had, and of course, she played completely dumb on the fact that guests cost money.  She suggested PHOTOCOPYING our invitation and just providing it to her friends that way.  It was so out of hand.  We certainly put our foot down but needless to say, I didn't have a fond feelings for them at our wedding after the insanity.  This situation is just par for the course for these people.  Early on in our marriage, DH felt the need to defend them as I was constantly frustrated with their behavior but now he sees how wrong some of these situations are and gets equally frustrated.

    Thanks for your input.  I am totally fine without having this second 'shower.'  They have already made me feel like they don't want to do it but feel they need to check a box so they don't look bad to others.  They haven't called to check on how I'm feeling through this pregnancy, didn't offer to lift a finger when we were moving but are the first ones to want to have a party at our house.  They wanted to do Christmas here too even though we hadn't completely moved in yet.  Unfortunately, this is how they are.  I just need to learn to stop hoping for better behavior.....

    On another note, wait until my MIL finds out that DH is converting to Greek Orthodox (my religion) since that's how we plan to raise the boys.  He is Methodist now, but the Christian religions all fall under the same basic beliefs and he said it's something he wants to do for our family.  Oh to be a fly on the wall!

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    Dude, you are being conned, scammed, tricked big time. They want to have a big party on some one else's dime and they will push, guilt and manipulate anyone they can in order to do it.  You shouldn't feel bad, you should be insulted because they honestly sound like they think you are either stupid or a huge pushover.   I mean really ??  They want your family to pay for another party and supply all the food ?  Who in their right mind would think that is remotely ok ?  

    Do not stand for this, not for a single minute.  Let these a-holes get mad.  Better them than your family.  
    Thank you!  During a heated discussion once when they 'forgot' to include us for the family Thanksgiving (after we had hosted Christmas and Easter just before) we were told that they feel second class compared to my family.  Well this is exactly why!  They only show up when they want something and even when they say they are doing something for you, it's all done with guilt and scams.  You are absolutely right that I should just let them get mad and better them than my family!
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  • Just have to say, all of you ladies are AWESOME!  Thank you for all of the advice and helping me build my backbone in this situation.  There's no way I was going to allow the 'shower' to be held at our house or restaurant, but I was being too nice about it.  Maybe if I'm more direct and put my foot down, they will stop this behavior.  Either that, or they will be annoyed enough that they just stop contacting me, which is fine too!
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  • I just need to learn to stop hoping for better behavior.....


    I really struggle with this too. 

    My mom's side of my family (my parents are divorced) is known for behaving badly.  For example, my sister saw a picture of me on FB and concluded that I was pregnant again.  So, she started telling everyone.  Well, it turns out that I am expecting (though wasn't in the picture - that was baby weight from DD) and when I told her, her response was, "I know.  I've already told (brother's name), (her friends names), and (aunt's name)."  I was shocked to say the least.  I mean, who does that?!

    But, that's always what I expect from them.  I've stopped trying to play the game, and either they go along with what's good for my family or they don't.  Like, I've stopped begging for them to spend holidays with us - If they want to come, great, if not more pie for me.  It was really hard at first (I didn't want to let go of the dream of having that perfect Normal Rockwell family), but is now sort of liberating.  Like, if you want to come for Christmas, let me know by this date or I'll assume you're not coming.  If they call later, I'm sorry, we didn't buy enough food since you didn't let me know. 

    Whatever you decide, good luck with them. :) 

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  • On another note, wait until my MIL finds out that DH is converting to Greek Orthodox (my religion) since that's how we plan to raise the boys.  He is Methodist now, but the Christian religions all fall under the same basic beliefs and he said it's something he wants to do for our family.  Oh to be a fly on the wall!

    I will say, I had a knee-jerk reaction of "why does he need to formally tell her?".  But when it comes to religion, and as she is the way she is - just coming out with it may be a good idea.

     

    BUT - advice.  Tell your DH that 1- he needs to make it clear that this IS what is happening. Hes not looking for her approval.  2- he needs to leave it very simple - this is a decision HE has made as he sees it fit for his immediate family.  Period.  He should NOT get into a long, involved explanation.  When she flips out, he needs to let her.  As I said before- you aren't responsible for her feelings.  He just needs to let her get mad.  But he doesn't need to jump to continuing to defend/explain.

    Seriously.  This shouldn't be a long, drawn out conversation. 

  • Your ILs are crazy!!!

    No need for too many words.  A simple NO Thank you would suffice.  Don't apologize for anything either- don't you dare say your'e sorry because you're not doing anything wrong!!!

    Just text back: No thank you

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  • chrissy1013chrissy1013 member
    edited February 2014
    @VOR - I actually asked my DH to mention it to them after the babies arrive because he plans on doing the conversion when we baptize the babies. My ILs will be there and I would rather not shock them with it all and cause drama that day. They probably won't be happy about it either way, but I'm hoping to avoid a shock. Totally up to him on how he wants to handle it though. Thanks for your tips! He's pretty blunt about it so I'm guessing it will just be an FYI for them and not a discussion.
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  • chrissy1013chrissy1013 member
    edited February 2014
    Peanutz21 said:
    Your ILs are crazy!!!

    No need for too many words.  A simple NO Thank you would suffice.  Don't apologize for anything either- don't you dare say your'e sorry because you're not doing anything wrong!!!

    Just text back: No thank you

    Thank you!!!
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  • @SingleMom31 - I'm so sorry as I missed your post before. Family issues are usually not fun and it sounds like you've had your share of those situations. How rude of your sister! Seems like she wanted to steal the spotlight from you by making the announcement herself. Not cool! We struggle with holidays as well and I think you are taking the right approach. Can't put things on hold for everyone else and play the doormat. Just like you, I dream of that perfect family but unfortunately, it's just not the case. Good luck!!
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