Secondary IF

Bad weekend

Sorry I have been a little MIA. Life is crazy with commuting but I still look on here just don't always have time to post.

This weekend some friends of ours told us they are expecting. I was happy for them until they started going on and on about how they were preventing it and it still happened so he must have great swimmers. This is the worst thing to say to someone with MFI but they don't know we have that so it wasn't malicious.

Things went from bad to worse on the drive home from dinner. I told DH I was sad. He got mad and we got into a huge fight. He said I can't get upset every time someone gets pregnant. I tried to tell him I'm not mad at them I'm mad at the unfairness. I also told him that at first I'm happy for them then I start thinking it would be fun to be pregnant at the same time then I get sad because I think that probably won't happen. He was so annoyed by all of this and it makes me feel really alone and like I can't express my true feelings on this subject without him getting upset.

sorry for the rant I needed to vent! Thanks for listening!

Re: Bad weekend

  • Rough :( I'm so sorry.

    I get the alone feeling. DH continually tells me he'd be perfectly happy if we stayed a family of 3. If we have another baby, that's good with him too but he says he's happy where we are now too while I feel something (someone) missing.
    Me: 32, DH: 33
    DS #1: April 2010
    DS #2: July 2015 (preemie born at 31 weeks) - our little miracle conceived through ART - unexplained secondary infertility/adenomyosis
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  • :( I get it. My cousin just announced her second pregnancy this morning. We are also MFI so I totally get where you are coming from with comments like that. I know it is especially hard on hubs. He lets me be sad though. He gets sad too, which I know is hard for him to admit. Maybe he was arguing bc he didn't want to think of being sad too? I don't know, but vent all you want, it sucks, it isn't fair, and you are not alone. I'm sorry you guys got in a fight. I know w hubs I can't talk about it bc it becomes a pity party for him and I can never talk about my hurt, but he has come as far as to at least let me say when I am sad without going there anymore, I just can't say anymore. I hope you have a better weekend
    January 2007- Stop BCP! Let's DO this!
    June 2010- MFI. BS. IVF! Ectopic. BS. image

    November 2010- FAILED FET! BS!
    January 2011- BFP FET! TWINS!
    February 2011- lost twin. BS. image

    SEPTEMBER 2011- DD Born! Most awesome girl in the world!

    November 2013- FAILED FET! BS! (screw you November FETs)
    April Fresh Cycle, FAILED. Frozen embryos frozen for future FETs.
    FROZEN CYCLE JUNE! BFP
    BABY BOY VINCENT!
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  • I'm so sorry. Guys just process this stuff differently. I bet being MFI your DH hurts more than he lets on.

    I always hate the "Infertility brought us closer" comments because I know it has been a real strain on our marriage. I think your DH doesn't get that it goes beyond a little bit of jealousy but, is a painful reminder basically.
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    Me: 27 DH: 33
    Married 6 years
    Conceived DS after 4 years of MFI

    TTC # 2 (not trying,not preventing ever)
    May 2013 - August 2013 Timed Intercourse = BFN
    September 2013 Timed Intercourse, Weekly Acupuncture, Herbs=BFN
    October 2013 Timed Intercourse, Weekly Acupuncture, Herbs, and "warming foods" = BFP
    Beta #1 19, Beta #2 18 Progesterone 4.6 Miscarried 11/9/13
    November 2013 - Benched, waiting for first post-loss AF.
    No longer benched per New RE/OB!
    Jan. 15 2014 - BFP. HCG 3900 - Ectopic :( 
    Jan. 16 2014 Left tube removed and D&C
    March 2, 2014 First AF


  • Ugh your H is being a huge jerk. I was just saying to my H last night, I know he is trying to be supportive, but he just doesn't "get it" from my perspective- but he damn sure thinks he does. It's just not the same. 

    That is why this group is so essential, because we can really relate to each other. 


    I'm sorry your H has his man period. Hugs. 
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    Spontaneous pregnancy #1
    DD1 July 31, 2011

    Trying for #2 since Oct 11
    732973 Clomid Cycles
    2 IUIs 
    3 Fresh IVFs= 1 Ectopic treated with MTX
    Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
    Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
    Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
    Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!! 



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  • So sorry. That would have upset me too. I totally get what you are saying about your DH - mine has basically admitted that he doesn't understand what I am going through. I think guys process this stuff differently. That is why I am so glad to have this board. Before, I was constantly telling DH how lonely and frustrating this all was. Anyway, we are here for you. Sending you big hugs!
  • I'm so sorry, hon.  Guys just don't get it sometimes.  DH and I get in fights over baby and pregnancy stuff too and it makes me so frustrated.  It's fine if guys don't feel the same way about all this stuff as we do but damnit, they shouldn't act as if there's something wrong with the way we feel.  They're entitled to their feelings, just as we're entitled to ours.  X(
    November 2010 - 10.5 week loss  o:) 
    October 2011 - DS (7)  <3 
    July 2014 - Stillborn DD (24 weeks)  o:) 
    August 2015 - DD (3)  <3 
    April 2018 - 5 week loss o:) 

  • Sorry about your weekend. I agree with everyone else, I really think men process emotions differently in general, add infertility issues and it gets even more messy.
    DD 12/1/2009
    TTC#2 Since May 2012
    Dx PCOS February 2013 on Metformin 1500 mg
    Met with RE October 2013, we've got a plan!
    Surprise BFP on "break cycle" 10/12/13. EDD 6/17/14.
    MMC discovered 11/25/13 at 10 weeks. D&C 11/27/13.
    BFP 2/8/14 Beta#1: 176, Prog 18! Beta#2:335, Prog, 19.5!
    EDD 10/16/2014

  • I'm sorry you had to go through all this.  I struggle with the happiness/sadness of someone's announcement too.  hugs
  • I'm sorry. Other BFPs are hard enough without having to hear how amazingly easy it was (or how impossible it was to prevent).

  • Sending hugs.  It is always difficult for me to hear of another new pregnancy among friends and family and sorry your husband wasn't supportive, men really do process differently.  Hope your tomorrow is a little brighter.
    DD Born April 2012
    TTC#2 since Jan2013
    Just beginning infertility journey. :/
  • Thanks for all of the support! I think I sometimes forget he is hurting too and his position might be a defense mechanism.

    I get worried because afterwards we both state our opinion and feelings and say next time we will respect each others position. But I know that won't happen. I know we will fall back into our normal roles and get into a fight.

    I sometimes worry IF will destroy our marriage.
  • ((hugs)) IF is such a huge stress on a marriage. The roller coaster of emotions with the addition of all the extra hormones we're shoveling into our bodies sometimes makes it plain ol' hard to be around people, even our husbands. 

    Two DDs 10/08 and 08/10, no primary IF
    TTC #3 since 10/2011 - dx unexplained/weak ovulation
     3 BFN clomid + TI cycles, 5 BFN clomid/gonal f IUIs, 1 mmc IUI
    2/19/2014 IVF #1 Unexpected low E2 (oversuppressed) -> increased to max doses = 3 or 4 follicles, converting to IUI
    BFFP Saw 1 beautiful heartbeat at 6w6d, follow up u/s at 9w showed mmc. Eff this.
    NTNP 5/2014-9/2014, OPKs and TI 10/2014 - 1/2015. 
    RPL testing all normal, AFC, AMH, and FSH all normal. 
    IVF 1.2 1/22/2014 natural cycle start, AFC 28, 300 gonal f/150menopur. 
    ER 2/3/15 14R 8M 3F w/ICSI Day 5 transfer on 2/8/15 of one "Grade A+" blast and have TWO frosties! 

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    Thanks for all of the support! I think I sometimes forget he is hurting too and his position might be a defense mechanism.

    I get worried because afterwards we both state our opinion and feelings and say next time we will respect each others position. But I know that won't happen. I know we will fall back into our normal roles and get into a fight.

    I sometimes worry IF will destroy our marriage.

    This used to happen to us alot too. I would get mad at DH for not being supportive enough and we would end up in a fight. I have just accepted that he cannot understand what I go through every month with the BFNs. This board is my outlet now. It's not that I don't talk to DH about it anymore but I have lowered my expectations of him.
  • I'm so sorry IF is extremely stressful and tough on a marriage, we look back on the years when we were trying to get KU (first time around) and even really while I was PG (as we had a number of loss scares) as the saddest, most stressful times of our lives.  It took us awhile to get back to normal and it definitely tested our marriage, but we have had some time to heal and talked ALOT, and finally feel that we are getting back on track. The stress of IF really pushed both of us close to our breaking points and that made dealing with day to day life hard sometimes, because we had nothing left to give emotionally to each other.  This definitelty caused bickering and its sucks.  Open and truly honest communication at a time when you can both focus and listen to what the other is saying was a huge help to us, we both learned a lot about how we each dealt with the stress and the not so obivious side effects it was having on us.

    It is also really important to know where your partner is on the topic, as do you both feel that you need another child to be happy?, because I found that I had a lot of feelings like I thought DH would be disapointed in me if I didnt give him another child- those were wrong and in my head and it created more tension between us.  You two may totally be on the same page and know exactly where the other stands, but just in case talk it out, cause I thought I knew, but I was way off.

    I also feel that this board is a safe place and I can come and say anything, and sometimes that is enough, sometimes I still talk to DH too, I hope that things get better for you and your DH.  Its so important to feel that you are partners in this battle and I'm so sorry thats tough right now.     I hope you two can talk and get some peace so that you can be better support to each other.  Huge hugs to you and know that you are so not alone in this crap.

    Sorry if I sound preachy- really just trying to help and boil down years of trying to work through these same issues into the shortest paragraphs possible.

    TTC#1 May 2009- July 2010 on our own with no luck

    Started with RE in August 2010, dx with unexplained IF and then finally our 3rd IUI cycle using Follistim and Trigger resulted in our wonderful little man.  Born 12/2/11

    TTC#2 Never really prevented, but were careful early on as Dr. reccomended

    Surprise BFP 12/16/13, started progesterone immediately as first numbers came back low, but betas were good.  Progesterone wasnt enough. Natural MC 12/24/13.

    Back with RE as of January 2014...

    5/27/14- Chemical Pregnancy :(

    April 2015 IVF#1

    5/13/15- BFP, please stick LO!

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