Trouble TTC

Clomid and monitoring?

I talked to my OB over the phone today about my day 3 blood tests and my HSG results, everything came back normal! 

When I asked her "now what? she said to come in for a consultation and that she wants to put me on Clomid.  I asked her if she would be monitoring me while I was taking it and she said, "Er... well we take your progesterone levels, only one Dr. here actually uses ultrasound during Clomid"  I said ok and asked her how long she wanted to put me on Clomid and she said well about 3 months, however some Dr.'s here keep patients on it for as long as six months.  I don't really know what to think about her answers.

If you are on Clomid what steps does your doctor take to monitor you, how long are you going to be or have you been on Clomid, and what is your opinion on Clomid vs Femara?  I am thinking I am going to say thank you but no thank you and see if I can get a referral to an RE.  I'm not sure, I don't want to cut this off at the knees if I don't have to if the monitoring she is going to do will be enough...

Any help would be great!  Thanks!

TTC Since October 2012.  I’m 27 and DH is 30

DH: 4 SAs, all came back normal, blood testing 6/13-9/13 all normal

Me: 03/13 irregular cycles, hypothyroidism diagnosis

     3/13 full blood panel showed normal results except thyroid

     5/13 regulated hypothyroidism, regular cycles again

     6/13 day 21-24 blood testing came back normal

     6/13-9/13 DH testing with Urologist- normal

     11/13 ultrasounds and full hormonal blood panel were normal

     12/13 OB consult, day 3 blood tests and HSG ordered

     01/14 HSG results normal, day 3 blood tests are normal

Just hoping that AF will back off and give me a chance to take a pregnancy test! All are Welcome!! 

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Re: Clomid and monitoring?

  • I did 5 cycles of clomid with my OB. I had a HSG and DH had SA, but I wasn't monitored and honestly, I wouldn't do it again. I do not have any horror stories (but I know there are some out there) but I O'ed late (CD 28 and CD 21) on 2 cycles and no O on the other 3. It was the biggest waste of time, and i dealt with a ton of side effects essentially for nothing! If I could do it again I'd go straight to the RE, I'm in my second cycle with the RE and I feel more confident that I'm not wasting time and that we have some progress being made. She switched me to Femara and I'm much happier with Femara over Clomid. There have been less side effects (mainly fatigue) and I've been able to trigger O on both cycles on time.
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    Happily Married Since 10.2006  •  TTC since 07.2012
    HSG Good & SA mostly Normal  •  DX lean PCOS
    MAR - NOV 2013  •  5 Cycles Clomid + TI = 2 Late O's/BFN & 3 Big Fat FAILS
    DEC 2013 - FEB 2014  •  IUI #1-3  •  Femara 5mg + Trigger = 3 BFNs
    MAR 2014  •  IUI #4  •  Follistim + Trigger + Crinone = BFN
    APR 2014  •  Benched  •  BCPs to clear up Cysts

    MAY 2014  •  IUI #5  •  Follistim + Ganirelix + Trigger = BFP
    E.D.D. 2/18/2015
    6/11 +HPT • 6/13 BETA 447 • 6/16 BETA 1535
    6/23 U/S Adorable Little Bean • 6/30 U/S Beautiful Strong Heartbeat

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  • You're instinct is right, please get a referral to an RE.  You need to be properly monitored, after having all the proper testing done.  Every cycle, you should have CD3 b/w and u/s before starting Clomid or other meds, mid cycle b/w and u/s to see how you're responding at a minimum.  Clomid can be dangerous for your health and fertility, you need to be properly monitored and I would highly recommend seeing a fertility specialist for this - an RE.  

    I never did Clomid myself, my RE doesn't like it and prefers Femara.  We tried 3 cycles before moving on, as I had poor response.  I had next to no side effects, but I also had very little response.  Good luck, and please follow your gut and ask for a referral to an RE.
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    3 Failed Femara + TI cycles and 4 Failed Injects + B2B IUI cycles
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  • Ok great!  that is all that I needed to hear. I thought that it seemed like a waste of time and just something to take up time to say they were doing anything.  I really don't want to waste time taking medications, as I am not a big fan of them anyway, and clomid is scary to me especially when it is not monitored... at all! 

    Looks like I will be getting a referral to an RE!  thank you so much ladies this is a big help.  I thought I might just be overreacting.

    TTC Since October 2012.  I’m 27 and DH is 30

    DH: 4 SAs, all came back normal, blood testing 6/13-9/13 all normal

    Me: 03/13 irregular cycles, hypothyroidism diagnosis

         3/13 full blood panel showed normal results except thyroid

         5/13 regulated hypothyroidism, regular cycles again

         6/13 day 21-24 blood testing came back normal

         6/13-9/13 DH testing with Urologist- normal

         11/13 ultrasounds and full hormonal blood panel were normal

         12/13 OB consult, day 3 blood tests and HSG ordered

         01/14 HSG results normal, day 3 blood tests are normal

    Just hoping that AF will back off and give me a chance to take a pregnancy test! All are Welcome!! 

    546988_392520614151730_1439788152_n.jpg (444×533)

  • I have had 7 cycles of Clomid and it doesn't work for me. The only testing for clomid they did was checking progesterone levels once at a certain point in the cycle. I want to say cycle day 21 although I could be wrong on the exact date. There really is no reason to do an ultrasound when on clomid. The blood work pretty much tells you what you need to know which is your progesterone level.

    MC: 8 weeks July 27,2008
    Amenoria: August 2008
    TTC: Since October 1,2011
    Me: PCOS Husband: Slightly low morphology
    Before RE: Clomid x5 months, resistant
    Cycle 1: Clomid 100mg, Metformin 1500mg, Follistim 75iu x 2, Ovidrel, Progesterone 200mg, IUI: BFN 1.13.14
    Cycle 2: Clomid 100mg, Metformin 1500mg, Follistim 75iu x 4, Follistim 125mg x 2, Ovidrel, IUI: BFN 1.6.14
    IVF w/ ICSI Cycle 1: Metformin 1500mg, Follistim 300iu x5, Menopur, Ganirelix, Ovidril: Egg retrieval: 3.22.14, Embryo Transfer: 3.27.14 , Beta: 4.7.14




  • bashert11 said:
    I have had 7 cycles of Clomid and it doesn't work for me. The only testing for clomid they did was checking progesterone levels once at a certain point in the cycle. I want to say cycle day 21 although I could be wrong on the exact date. There really is no reason to do an ultrasound when on clomid. The blood work pretty much tells you what you need to know which is your progesterone level.

    To the bolded comment - there is ABSOLUTELY a need to do an ultrasound on Clomid. You could, for example, wind up with a cyst, at risk for HOMs, thinned lining. Just to name a few things. I was on a very low dose and wound up with a pretty sizeable cyst and it would have gone undetected without proper monitoring. Please educate yourself before you spew nonsense like that.

    Oh and the bloodwork should be done 7dpo, not on CD21, unless CD21 happens to be 7dpo. but you won't know that unless you're being monitored properly.

    DH (29) & Me (26) - Married 9/22/2012
    TTC since 9/2012
    Dx - Annovulatory; PCOS-IR

    8/2013 - First consult with RE
    9/2013 - HSG, SHG both clear; SA normal
    Oct 2013 - Jan 2014 - Clomid + Trigger + IUI #1-3 = BFN's
    Feb 2014 - Femara + Trigger + IUI #4 = BFP!!!!!
    Beta #1 - 3/2/14 (15dpo) - 123
    Beta #2 - 3/4/14 (17dpo) - 378
    1st ultrasound - 3/21/14 - 1 little ninja, heartbeat - 120bpm
    Due November 7, 2014

    **ALL** Welcome

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  • I think the correct advice has been given. Run, do not walk, away from any medical professional that recommends that you take Clomid unmonitored by both bloodwork AND ultrasound.

    I second the thought of not playing russian roulette with your fertility.

  • ***** mc mentioned. I did 5 cycles of clomid. My OB monitored me for the first 2 rounds with blood work to make sure I ovulated. That was it. After that Ibegan to get annoyed because of the lack of monitoring...espespecially after my mc. She said she would only refer me to an re if I had 2 mc or after 6 cycles of clomid. I finally got fed up after my 5th cycle and told her she needed to send me to an re. She agreed she could no longer help. I am seeing an re on the 21st. Just make sure you are direct and take control of your treatment as much as possible. I have learned this thru this board. Good luck with everything!

    **Loss Mentioned

    Me: 25, DH: 28
    TTC about 3 years
    DX: Anovulation
    Completed 5 rounds of clomid with OBGYN. 2nd round ended in mc at 5.5 weeks

    First RE Apt. 1/21/14

    Started First Gonal F/Ovidrel/IUI cycle 4/24/14


    PAIF/SAIF Welcome!

  • @tariust16 - I think ob's like that should lose their license. It's so scary how many ob's don't care about our fertility health.
    10/2013 - Initial consult. Started levothyroxine - tsh 2.92
    HSG- showed graying in one spot/Saline Sono- showed 5mm polyp
    DH SA -  abnormal -  36%motility on both SA's (count and morph ok on SA1, a little off SA2)
    1/10/14 - Hysteroscopy to remove 5mm polyp
    1/12/14- Medicated Cycle 1: 50mg Clomid + Ovidrel + TI = BFN
    2/15/14 - Medicated Cycle 2: 100mg Clomid + Ovidrel + TI = BFN
    3/18/14 - IUI Cycle 1: 150mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI = BFN
    Upped Levothyroxine to 50mg - tested at 2.62
    4/17/14 - IUI Cycle 2: 150mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI = BFN
    Break!
    6/21/14: IUI Cycle 3: 150mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI

    *All are welcome*




  • I know it scared me too. I won't b going back to her if I do get pregnant. It did make me become more direct though. It felt great to walk in and tell her I'm not doing clomid again with her and that she needed to refer me to an re. How empowering lol. But I shouldn't have been put in that position.

    **Loss Mentioned

    Me: 25, DH: 28
    TTC about 3 years
    DX: Anovulation
    Completed 5 rounds of clomid with OBGYN. 2nd round ended in mc at 5.5 weeks

    First RE Apt. 1/21/14

    Started First Gonal F/Ovidrel/IUI cycle 4/24/14


    PAIF/SAIF Welcome!

  • I'm not going to lie and say I didn't take the Clomid when my OB-GYN gave them to me. I took them Clomid 50mg for 5 days. I was unmonitored and although I have no horror stories I wouldn't do it again. My reasons are 1) Although I was using the Clear Blue Fert Monitor at the time I could not for the life of me pinpoint my exact fertile window while on clomid! I had over 10 days of High reading before actually hitting Peak and by then DH was exhausted and threw in the towel 2) My cycle was so wonky I couldn't make heads or tails of it 3) When I actually used clomid 100mg while being monitored by my RE for an IUI, I produce 9 mature follies!! 
    If I had continued taking Clomid from my OB-GYN, I know that after our failed 1st attempt with 50mg the next step would have been 100mg unmonitored and as much as I want to become pregnant 9 would have been too many!
    *Losses mentioned*
    Me: 34 DH:32
    TTC #1 since Dec 2011
    HSG = tubes clear, bicornuate or septate ute; MRI= severe arcuate uterus no septum seen 
    SA #1 low count, low morph;  SA#2 4% Morph, count OK  SA#3 july 2014= NORMAL!!!
    9/2013  IUI#1 w/Clomid 100mg = over response; cycle converted to cryoocyte IVF
    IVF #1: 9/15 ER= 9 mature eggs, all eggs made it thru vitrification
    10/23 ICSI 6 fertilized; 10/28 5dt of two morulas. Hold on to me babies, stick, stick, stick!!
    11/6 BFP EDD 7/14/14 Beta #1= 18; 11/9 Beta #2= 44.8; 11/12 Beta #3= 7 = Early loss @4w6d. No frosties
    Feb 2014 Hysterscopy = no septum seen ute all clear in the inside
     IUI #1.1 4/2/14 Beta on 4/16 BFN
    Thinking about IUI #2  RE advised to try 3?????
    Natural cycle surprise BFP 8/3/14 EDD 4/11/15  beta#1(8/5/14)=35 Beta#2(8/8/14)=22  CP/Early loss@5w
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