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I know some of you from other boards (3T, IF, IFV)…the many I have been a part of at one point or another. Most of my details are in my siggy.  We just cancelled our IVF cycle and are trying to do an IUI but I’m not hopeful that if we are even able to do it, we would be successful.  I know that’s not a great attitude but I’m just tired.  We are not sure where we are going to go from here but we have always been told that donor eggs or donor embryos will give us our best chance for a bfp.  At one point we were also told donor sperm would need to be used as well but we overcame that hurdle.

 

I’m not sure what avenue to choose but I wanted to dip my feet in and see what other’s had to say.  I want to start doing some research and learning as much as I can so that we can be prepared and ready to make our decision.

 

So…DE or DEmbryo….why did you choose one over the other?  I’m getting some very conflicting information on the costs of each.  Did you go through an agency for your donor or how did you find them?

 

Thanks for the help, I know I will have more questions.  I’m very interested in getting to know everyone over here!

TTC #1 Since May 2011 ~ Everyone Welcome
Me (34): DOR d/t chemo/radiation, Immature Endometrial Lining, Hypothyroidism
DH (35): MFI d/t testicular torsion and removal, Low T, Oligospermia, Anti-Sperm Antibodies, Currently on T supplements
Sept '11-April '13 ~  Testing, failed multiple MFI treatments, saving & TONS of praying
January 2014 ~ IVF/ICSI & PGS ~ no response to stims ~ converted to IUI ~ BFN
February 2014 ~ On to donor embyros ~ 5 blasts!!! 
March 2014 ~ FET #1 ~ Transferred 2 blasts ~ BFN
July 2014 ~ Kliman's mock cycle with endometrial function test
Sample too small for EFT, HE slide showed immature cells
New protocol planned, saving for another biopsy for EFT
January 2015 ~ Considering adoption options
April 2015 ~ Privately arranged adoption of planned pregnancy
DD#1 ~ Lillyana Violet Marie born 6/15/16, Finalized adoption 12/20/16
July 13, 2018 ~ BFP....WTF?!?!
7/16 Beta #1 ~ 466...7/18 Beta #2 ~ 1,077...7/23 Beta #3 ~ 5,291
7/23 US #1 ~ 1 gestational sac seen and yolk sac
7/30 US #2 and 1st OB appt ~ 1 perfectly round gestational sac, 1 perfect yolk sac and 1 teeny tiny heart beat seen!!!
Lilypie Maternity tickers


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  • Welcome to the board, I am sorry for your hard journey.
    We are using a gestational carrier, so I don't have much to add.
    Just wanted to say welcome and give some (((hugs)))
    TTC #1 since 12/2010 DH: MFI, cancer survivor Me: Resected septate uterus, lap treated mild endo, tubes open, ovulate on own, autoimmune disease 3 Failed IUI's (2/2012, 4/2012, 6/2012) 
    IVF #1 August 2012. BFP! Beta #1 56.7 Beta #2 150 One baby, one heartbeat on 9/20/12! no h/b @7w6d. dandc @8w0d
    FET #1 December 2012, BFN
    FET #2 February 2013, no embies survived thaw
    IVF #2, BFP #2, Loss #2 March 2013, Scar tissue discovered, RPL testing,
    IVF #3, BFP #3, Loss #3 (twins) September 2013
    Hostile ute, moving onto Gestational Carrier!

    GC/FET #1 of 1 5AA blast and 1 compacted blast, February 2014, BFP #4 on 3/1/2014!
    6w u/s 1 bean with h/b of 145 bpm, 8w u/s 187 bpm
    EDD 11/7/14. Please, please, please stick little one!

    Praying unceasingly for a miracle. ALL welcome!

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  • We used Donor Egg - and our clinic found a great match for us, so no agency fee.  It was the same as IVF + about $6500 for the donor.  It was a difficult decision to let go of a genetic link to my future children but in the end we wanted kids more & I found my peace.

    I wish you lots of luck as you continue the horrible IF journey!

    Me:37 (DOR), DH: 40 (Normal) TTC #1 since Fall 2010
    2010-2012 - 7 rounds of Clomid, 4 IUI & 2 IVF - all BFN (2 chemical pregnancies)
    April 2013 fresh DEgg - 15R, 4F, 2 transferred = BFN.  
    FET - 11/13
    Beta #1 11/23 = 247; Beta #2 11/25 = 538; Beta #3 11/29 = 5481 BFP!!!!!
    U/s #1 12/7 & U/s #2 12/16 = One perfect little heart beat!! 
    EDD = 8/1/14

    Hope is the thing with feathers - that perches in the soul - and sings the tune without the words - and never stops - at all - (Emily Dickinson)

  • Hi friend! I know you can't see it, but I have my arms open big and wide welcoming you to this amazing group of women! You know my story, but one of the main reasons we chose DEmbryo is because we had both egg and sperm issues. And for the cost of a DEgg cycle, we weren't willing to take that much risk. I honestly think even without the sperm issues, cost was such a big factor that DEmbryo was just much more appealing.

    Once we dipped our feet into the world of TPR, I realized that I wanted an open relationship with our donor. Many clinics didn't offer this, so I knew it would mean me finding embryos on my own. I could have used an agency, but I didn't want to have to go through a homestudy which most (if not all) agencies require. I'm really happy with the route we took, and I have found the open relationship with our donors to have been such a positive experience. 

    If you decide to go DEmbryo, you know how to find me. I hope you have success with your IUI, but no matter what, I hope you find peace/comfort as you go through this extremely rough chapter of IF. *hug*

    ************ Signature/Ticker Warning ************
    Me (32) DH (36) - Finding our way to baby #1
    Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR, insulin resistant and gluten intolerant
    DH: Severe MFI

    12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN 
    8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)

    My ovaries are just for decoration

    12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years!
    2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts. 
    2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13
    3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d.

    6/5/13 - Adopted four new embryos that had been frozen for seven years!
     
    9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts
    9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14
    9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d. :(

    11/19/13 - DEmbryo FET #3. Thawed and transferred one blast from each batch. Wow!
    11/23/13 - BFP @ 4dp6dt! EDD 8/7/13
    Beta #1 @ 13dp6dt - 522  Beta #2 @ 16dp6dt - 1373 
    6w5d ultrasound showed one perfect baby with a beautiful heartbeat of 134bpm!

    Snowflake baby is a girl! 
    Our beautiful Snowflake girl arrived on July 22, 2014!   
    My embryo adoption blog: Wishing on a Snowflake
     
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  • Hi! We chose DEgg because our clinic success rate was 70% for egg and about half of that for embryo. We used a donor through our clinic and have insurance coverage for IVF, so we really only ended up paying for the donor fee and a few other fees( I say only but it still wasn't inexpensive)

    Our donor cycle left us with 18 embryos to freeze after transferring 2, and we do plan to donate our embryos after we are have completed our family. I share that only to say that some donated embryos could be from donor egg at one point. Good luck with whatever path you choose.

    8/2011: Diagnosed with ovarian cancer, ovaries and tubes removed

    12/2011: Finished chemo

    5/2013: Cleared for DE IVF

    11/13: DEgg IVF#1

    8/5/14: Grace was born!

  • Welcome and sorry about what you are going through.

    Because of my age and only having one shot at this we jumped straight to DE with ICSI. MH didn't want to travel so we stayed in our hometown and found one clinic that does "shared" cycles where we share the eggs with another couple. Less expensive. The waiting list is long and not many donors so that part stinks.

    Good luck to you on whatever you decide. Big hugs..

    ME:46 MH:44 DE IVF 2014
    Met with RE 4/11. 2 IUI's BFN. DE best option. Switched clinics to do "shared" program. Had to retake all tests and a mamm that put me behind and then on a DE waiting list for 12 months. Picked a donor!! (10/13/13) Got matched. Estimated transfer in December. After 2.5 years of patiently waiting I will finally cycle....can hardly believe it. DE cycle got cancelled. One of her tests came back positive.  Waiting for another donor. Donor picked!! (1/18/14)

    DE IVF #1 (4/26) BFN  DE FET #1 (6/4) BFP! Beta 1=339 Beta 2=852 Beta 3=9957 EDD 2/22/15!!


     

     

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  • Welcome!  We chose donor egg because as far as we are aware we do not have any sperm issues so having at least 1/2 genetic connection was nice.  Also we chose to go with frozen eggs at RBA because the cost was much less than doing a fresh cycle (as well as not having to wait as you do for a fresh cycle).  I am now waiting to transfer on Wednesday but have had a great experience with RBA. 

    Good luck in whatever you choose!

    9/15/14 - Our first son born thanks to donor eggs at RBA after 7 failed own egg IVF cycles.
  • Hi! 
    We will most likely be doing Donor Egg/ Donor Sperm. My RE said we could try to adopt donor embryos, but they are typically from couples that have some IF issue and since the costs are about the same for us, it just made sense to go the route we did. Plus, then we have a little more control over some genetic qualities since DH and I have many physical similarities- we just always expected our children to have them. (Although at this point nothing would be more beautiful than simply a healthy baby- even if it looked nothing like either of us) I'm also hoping to get a few good blasts- maybe even have more than one child- which is a mind blowing concept to even think about at this point.
    I also know that for my clinic you could find someone through an agency but the clinic may not approve them- so we intend to just use the clinics list of donors.
    Wishing you lots of luck!
    ***WARNING***

    TTC Since 12/2008;  DH: 32, Azoospermia     me: 33, DX during IVF #4: Low AMH (Normal FSH) / SER due 
    to IVF Meds (causing failure to fertilize) Recent DX: Hashimoto's, Lupus Anticoagulant, White Blood Cell Disorder 
    High ANA, ATA, & APA, PAI-1 Heterozygous= blood clotting disorder; connective tissue disorder 
    IVF w/ ICSI #1 2/2011     IVF w/ ICSI #2 5/2011    IVF w/ ICSI #3 12/2012   *New RE* IVF w/ ICSI #4  5/2013
    IVF w/ ICSI #5 8/2013 (Natural Cycle- No drugs)- One follicle->one blast. CCS normal. FET 9/10- 6BB blast. m/c @ 5w
    IUI #1 12/23- BFN  IUI #2 Cancelled (ovulated during AF)  Prep:CoQ10 (300 mg); DHEA (25 mg); Melatonin (3 mg), Folgard 2.2, Metformin 500 2x, Levothyroxine 50mcg, Aspirin 81mg w/ calcium, B12,  Vit. D 4000 & Prenate Elite Daily; Cabergoline 1/2 pill 2x week-  Cycling: Estrace Priming; Prednisone 10mg, Lovenox 40mg 2x,  Femera & Menopur   
    IUI #2.1 6/30 & 7/1. 1st Beta: 90 (7/15); 2nd Beta: 226 (7/17); 3rd Beta: 766   EDD: 3/23/2015

       **ALL WELCOME**                                    My Blog 
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  • Hiya!!!! Glad to see you. Sorry for your cancelled IVF.
    As for us we chose donor egg because my hubs and really wanted his sperm to be in the Mix since he has no issues and I agreed but we were concerned about the cost of donor egg. We were open to both DEgg and EAdoption. We ended up going with it because our clinic found us my match and we did a shared cycle with another couple and it cut our costs in half! So instead of like 25k it ended up being around 10k because she used a lot of my leftover meds from my cancelled cycle. But I still had to put down about another 2k for FET meds. Good luck I hope this all helps your decisions.
    Me 34 and DH 39 married in aug. 2002
    Did 5 round of clomid 2010 =BFN
     High levels of NK CELLS DX sept.2012 DOR:# 0.02 
    IVF #1 May 2012  ER 4, EF 2, ET 2 =BFN
    MINI IVF Oct.2012  Cancelled 10-27-12
    Ivf #3 Antagonist Protocol April 2013
    Shared cycle..Donor cycled in July Got 12 eggs 9 fertilized and 8 frozen!!
    DE FET #1 Sept. 3rd 2013 FIRST BFP EVER 5dp5dt
    miscarried Sept 24th at 5 weeks 5 days
    Etopic  D&C and hysterscopy Nov 5 2013
    dx with pre genetic blood clotting dec 2013
    FET #2 Jan 31st  2014 
    Miscarried for a second time again at 5 weeks 5 days
    Currently fostering to adopt an amazing little 1 year old boy..P.J!
    FET#3  is Oct 29th 2014
    BFN on fet #3
    Last and FINAL FET coming JAN 28th 2015
    Everyone Welcome






  • Welcome & best wishes! :)

    ***signature & ticker warning***


    Me: 30 ~ Stage IV Endo ~ AMH .38 ~ AFC 8
    AMH .97 as of 4/2012! ~ AMH 1.63 as of 4/2013!?!

    Him: 29 ~ perfect swimmers

    Laparotomy w/partial oophorectomy 8/2009 to remove cysts/endo.
    Stopped BCP 4/2010.
    Multiple clomid rounds from 11/2010 to 6/2011. ~ All BFN
    IUI w/clomid 7/2011. IUI w/clomid & injectables 11/2011 & 1/2012. ~ All BFN

    IVF:EPP 5/2012 ~ (4R, 3M, 2F w/ICSI). Both embryos txfrd. ~ BFN
    BCP to manage endo from 10/2012 to 12/2012.
    FET w/donor embryos #1: 10/2013 Cancelled
    FET w/donor embryos #1.2: 11/2013
    ~ ET of 2 beautiful blasts on 11/27.
    Beta 1: 503(12dp5dt) Beta 2: 1035(14dpt) Beta 3: 3001(16dpt)
    Beta 4: 8503(19dpt)
    Twins with an EDD of 8/15/14! Team Purple
    G&B born 6/30/14 at 33w3d via emergency c/s.


    If you're wondering about my avatar...it's a fried pickle chip shaped like a fetus!


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  • Hey there! Welcome to 3PR. I know you're probably a little disappointed but we have a great group of supportive women here.

    Due to both DH & I having conditions we have to use DE + DS. If that was in the form of DEmbryo then so be it. We are trying a few cycles with DE + DS so we'll see how that goes. There's been lots of roadblocks but we are hoping this is our year. I hope it is for you as well.

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    SAIF Always Welcome
    TTC #1 since Fall 2008
    High FSH, Sertoli Cell Only Syndrome
    Unsuccessful with my OE, moving to DE + DS
    DE + DS IVF #1: Dec 2012 - BFP, nothing at first u/s 
    DE + DS IVF #2: 3/14/13 - c/p
    DE + DS IVF #3: 7/12/13 - BFP! Finally! No heartbeat at 7w1d.
    DE + DS IVF #4: 5/16/14 - BFN
    DE + DS IVF #5: 9/3/14 - BFP at 5.5dp5dt, Beta 1 @ 9dp5dt: 438; hb of 133 at 6w5d, no hb at 7w1d
    DE + DS IVF #6: 3/3/15 - BFN on HPTs through 7dp5dt, Beta 1 @ 8dp5dt: 19, Beta 2 @ 10dp5dt: 76, nothing at u/s

    You miss 100% of the shots you don't take - Wayne Gretzky 
  • Hello I am new here too , we chose EA because after so many failed IUI s and tons of money spent on IVF and all kinds of treatments EA is cheaper than IVF and put way less stress on my body , having FET has a greater chance of working than keep doing IUIs that by the way are expensive since we use DS , and adoption the process is long expensive and scary . I feel like we want to be parents so badly that if God gives me the chance of carry a miracle in my womb that baby will be part of me even though we will not have the same genes
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  • Just wanted to welcome you Love4Labs!! Best of luck as you decide what will work best for you and your situation!

    Me: AMA, DOR, undetectable AMH, carrier of SMA, MTHFR homozygous C677T, high cytokines, low IGg B cells, Factor XIII V34l mutation, High Anti-Phosphatidylethanolmine, borderline hypothyroid and mildly insulin resistant.

     

    MH: No known issues, aside from MTHFR.

     

    Recommendations from RI: LIT, Humira, IVIG, Lovenox, Baby Aspirin, Folic Acid, Low-dose synthroid and Metformin.

     

    Currently taking:  Pre-Natal vitamins, Foltanx, Low-dose synthroid and Metformin. 

     

    When cycling also taking: Baby Aspirin, Lovenox, Humira and IVIG.

     

    TTC since 7/11/09..with medical intervention starting in 2010, including 4 failed IVF's and 6 failed IUI's...only "success" was a chemical pregnancy in 11/2012 (credited to use of DE).

    FET #1 (11th cycle) on 8/23/13 = BFN.

    FET #2 (12th cycle) Transfer of last two (day 6) donor egg blasts on 1/22/14 = BFP, EDD = 10/10/14 (please stick little BOY!)

     

    My favorite breed:

     

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    ***PAIF/SAIF always welcome***

  • @ceemonkey  I've been searching for you!  I know you have experience with DE/DS.  How are you???
    TTC #1 Since May 2011 ~ Everyone Welcome
    Me (34): DOR d/t chemo/radiation, Immature Endometrial Lining, Hypothyroidism
    DH (35): MFI d/t testicular torsion and removal, Low T, Oligospermia, Anti-Sperm Antibodies, Currently on T supplements
    Sept '11-April '13 ~  Testing, failed multiple MFI treatments, saving & TONS of praying
    January 2014 ~ IVF/ICSI & PGS ~ no response to stims ~ converted to IUI ~ BFN
    February 2014 ~ On to donor embyros ~ 5 blasts!!! 
    March 2014 ~ FET #1 ~ Transferred 2 blasts ~ BFN
    July 2014 ~ Kliman's mock cycle with endometrial function test
    Sample too small for EFT, HE slide showed immature cells
    New protocol planned, saving for another biopsy for EFT
    January 2015 ~ Considering adoption options
    April 2015 ~ Privately arranged adoption of planned pregnancy
    DD#1 ~ Lillyana Violet Marie born 6/15/16, Finalized adoption 12/20/16
    July 13, 2018 ~ BFP....WTF?!?!
    7/16 Beta #1 ~ 466...7/18 Beta #2 ~ 1,077...7/23 Beta #3 ~ 5,291
    7/23 US #1 ~ 1 gestational sac seen and yolk sac
    7/30 US #2 and 1st OB appt ~ 1 perfectly round gestational sac, 1 perfect yolk sac and 1 teeny tiny heart beat seen!!!
    Lilypie Maternity tickers


  • @Love4Labs326 I'm doing OK. Haven't been as active lately just because the last time I cycled was July! I kept having c/p & m/c so then they thought I had blood-clotting disorders, but apparently I only do when my hCG is elevated? Who knew. One more roadblock. But we are moving forward, and hope the next protocol will be the one that works. I feel like there can't be any other problems left, we've covered them all, LOL! I'm sure you feel the same.

    So you're looking into either DE or DEmbryo? We looked into both but only into DEmbryo at one clinic, and the wait just got too long. GL with whatever you choose!

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    SAIF Always Welcome
    TTC #1 since Fall 2008
    High FSH, Sertoli Cell Only Syndrome
    Unsuccessful with my OE, moving to DE + DS
    DE + DS IVF #1: Dec 2012 - BFP, nothing at first u/s 
    DE + DS IVF #2: 3/14/13 - c/p
    DE + DS IVF #3: 7/12/13 - BFP! Finally! No heartbeat at 7w1d.
    DE + DS IVF #4: 5/16/14 - BFN
    DE + DS IVF #5: 9/3/14 - BFP at 5.5dp5dt, Beta 1 @ 9dp5dt: 438; hb of 133 at 6w5d, no hb at 7w1d
    DE + DS IVF #6: 3/3/15 - BFN on HPTs through 7dp5dt, Beta 1 @ 8dp5dt: 19, Beta 2 @ 10dp5dt: 76, nothing at u/s

    You miss 100% of the shots you don't take - Wayne Gretzky 
  • @ceemonkey  That's crazy about the blood clotting thing.  You are TOTALLY right....I think we've both got about everything possible checked.  I really hope this next protocol is the one that is perfect for you.  Have you been working with the same clinic?  Do they have DE there or have you had to work through an agency?

    We are looking into both options.  I would like to do DE/DS but DH is hesitant because of the money.  I think he is leaning towards DEmbryos but I'm concerned about the wait too.  Right now I'm praying incessantly that we don't have to think about it for at least another year!  Just praying this last ditch IUI will be a miracle.
    TTC #1 Since May 2011 ~ Everyone Welcome
    Me (34): DOR d/t chemo/radiation, Immature Endometrial Lining, Hypothyroidism
    DH (35): MFI d/t testicular torsion and removal, Low T, Oligospermia, Anti-Sperm Antibodies, Currently on T supplements
    Sept '11-April '13 ~  Testing, failed multiple MFI treatments, saving & TONS of praying
    January 2014 ~ IVF/ICSI & PGS ~ no response to stims ~ converted to IUI ~ BFN
    February 2014 ~ On to donor embyros ~ 5 blasts!!! 
    March 2014 ~ FET #1 ~ Transferred 2 blasts ~ BFN
    July 2014 ~ Kliman's mock cycle with endometrial function test
    Sample too small for EFT, HE slide showed immature cells
    New protocol planned, saving for another biopsy for EFT
    January 2015 ~ Considering adoption options
    April 2015 ~ Privately arranged adoption of planned pregnancy
    DD#1 ~ Lillyana Violet Marie born 6/15/16, Finalized adoption 12/20/16
    July 13, 2018 ~ BFP....WTF?!?!
    7/16 Beta #1 ~ 466...7/18 Beta #2 ~ 1,077...7/23 Beta #3 ~ 5,291
    7/23 US #1 ~ 1 gestational sac seen and yolk sac
    7/30 US #2 and 1st OB appt ~ 1 perfectly round gestational sac, 1 perfect yolk sac and 1 teeny tiny heart beat seen!!!
    Lilypie Maternity tickers


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