Flu shot - yay or nay?

RondackHiker

ktlucas said:

Meery82 said:

She's the speshulest of snowflakes. The flu is beneath her. She won't get it.

You are absolutely correct!  Because I live a healthy lifestyle.  

haygurlhay said:

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Go for it. I'll be keeping your LO in my T&P.

Thanks, but you can keep
me out your mouth.

So healthy lifestyle keeps you safe from the flu? What sort of unhealthy lifestyle was your friend living? Guess she deserved to get the flu. Please tell me more about your healthy lifestyle that prevents all illness.


And while you're at it, please tell me more about how doctors are motivated to encourage vaccines by pharmaceutical companies. DH's med school loans are huge and if we're missing out on checks or something from those companies I want to know. He's already pushing the flu vaccine. He deserves the kickback!

maelic

ktlucas said:

Meery82 said:

She's the speshulest of snowflakes. The flu is beneath her. She won't get it.

You are absolutely correct!  Because I live a healthy lifestyle.  

It's true, no healthy person has ever gotten the flu. Ever. Never ever. In the history of the world. Because that's exactly how viral infections work.

RondackHiker

RedheadBaker said:

RachelDanaeJ said:

I am choosing not to get one because of the ingredients. They have to use an organic base, like animal blood/cells or fetal cells to make them. For religious reasons, I don't want animal blood/tissue in my or my babies blood.JJust another way to look at it

There are NO fetal cells IN a vaccine. That's like saying you're having a side of dirt with dinner with because your roasted carrots were grown in dirt. 

Varicella (chickenpox), rubella, hepatitis A, shingles and one preparation of rabies vaccine are all made in fetal embryo fibroblast cells. These cells were first obtained from elective termination of two pregnancies in the early 1960s. These same embryonic cells obtained from the early 1960s have continued to grow in the laboratory and are used to make vaccines today. No further sources of fetal cells are needed to make these vaccines. Fibroblast cells are the cells needed to hold skin and other connective tissue together.

The reasons that fetal cells were originally used included:

• Viruses need cells to grow and tend to grow better in cells from humans than animals (because they infect humans).
• Almost all cells die after they have divided a certain number of times; scientifically, this number is known as the Hayflick limit, and for most cell lines it is around 50 divisions; however, fetal cells can go through many more divisions before dying.

So, as scientists studied these viruses in the lab, they found that the best cells to use were the fetal cells mentioned above. When it was time to make a vaccine, they continued growing the viruses in the cells that worked best during these earlier studies. 
 

Reviewed by: Paul A. Offit, MD
Date: April 2013

https://www.chop.edu/service/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/vaccine-ingredients/fetal-tissues.html

@racheldanaej

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Meery82

ktlucas said:

Meery82 said:

She's the speshulest of snowflakes. The flu is beneath her. She won't get it.

You are absolutely correct!  Because I live a healthy lifestyle.  

haygurlhay said:

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Go for it. I'll be keeping your LO in my T&P.

Thanks, but you can keep me out your mouth.

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