did you vaccinate your child?

aggiebug

DebateThis said:

@aggiebug I know not much at all about dog vaccines but OMG, your siggie. Love.

Thanks :-)

Mysterious_wife

missnacholover said:

I'm going to do whatever Jenny McCarthy tells me to do because I have a girl crush on her. 

Maybe Jenny from. The 90s. Now she looks like dried up leather with a bad bleach job.

DebateThis

Mysterious_wife said:

I'm going to do whatever Jenny McCarthy tells me to do because I have a girl crush on her. 

Maybe Jenny from. The 90s. Now she looks like dried up leather with a bad bleach job.

Add in her new e-cig and she's a skunk hair stripe away from being Cruella Deville.

missnacholover

I'm totally kidding.  But I wouldn't kick her boyfriend out of bed.  

Mysterious_wife

missnacholover said:

I'm totally kidding.  But I wouldn't kick her boyfriend out of bed.  

Oh I would. I am a huge NKOTB fan. He's gross now. Pre-Jenny I'd hit that

rjeller32

cmelliott said:

I have no kids yet but I feel pretty strongly against unwarranted medications (which is not the same as vacs but affects how I feel about them). I've had every vac when I was young except for chicken pox and gardasil. The chicken pox wasn't around and my mom refused the gardasil for me, since I was under 18. Those are the only two that I'm wary about since they haven't been around long enough to really see the long term effects. My fear is that the chicken pox one wears off before they thought and then your child will get it as an adult, which is a lot worse. I'm also worried about the long term effects of gardasil since it hasn't been around long enough to see that. I also refuse to get it myself cause I'm not at risk of HPV or genital warts. If I have a daughter I will let her make that choice to get it herself. However, I'll have to do a lot of research on the chicken pox before I feel comfortable with it.

Here you go for that little quip above. It is silly to think just because you are married or have an SO that you do not run the risk of contracting HPV.

"Anyone who is having (or has ever had) sex can get HPV. HPV is so common that nearly all sexually-active men and women get it at some point in their lives. This is true even for people who only have sex with one person in their lifetime."

You can still have HPV from a previous sexual encounter with someone who had it, even if it was years ago.

The scariest part for me is that you can pass HPV to your child during labor. HPV is also the leading cause of cervical cancer.

Don't be ignorant. I contracted HPV, and ended up having to have a LEEP done. It made me realize how truly lucky I was (and smart) to get regular screenings, and the importance vaccines against HPV, and every other disease, are for myself and my children.

cmelliott

rjeller32 said:

cmelliott said:

I have no kids yet but I feel pretty strongly against unwarranted medications (which is not the same as vacs but affects how I feel about them). I've had every vac when I was young except for chicken pox and gardasil. The chicken pox wasn't around and my mom refused the gardasil for me, since I was under 18. Those are the only two that I'm wary about since they haven't been around long enough to really see the long term effects. My fear is that the chicken pox one wears off before they thought and then your child will get it as an adult, which is a lot worse. I'm also worried about the long term effects of gardasil since it hasn't been around long enough to see that. I also refuse to get it myself cause I'm not at risk of HPV or genital warts. If I have a daughter I will let her make that choice to get it herself. However, I'll have to do a lot of research on the chicken pox before I feel comfortable with it.

Here you go for that little quip above. It is silly to think just because you are married or have an SO that you do not run the risk of contracting HPV.

"Anyone who is having (or has ever had) sex can get HPV. HPV is so common that nearly all sexually-active men and women get it at some point in their lives. This is true even for people who only have sex with one person in their lifetime."

You can still have HPV from a previous sexual encounter with someone who had it, even if it was years ago.

The scariest part for me is that you can pass HPV to your child during labor. HPV is also the leading cause of cervical cancer.

Don't be ignorant. I contracted HPV, and ended up having to have a LEEP done. It made me realize how truly lucky I was (and smart) to get regular screenings, and the importance vaccines against HPV, and every other disease, are for myself and my children.

I am not "ignorant". I am quite the opposite. I know about contracting from previous sexual encounters. However, my husband and I have been together since the age of 15 and have been with only each other. So no, I'm not at risk. Thanks for your concern though.

rjeller32

cmelliott said:

rjeller32 said:

cmelliott said:

I have no kids yet but I feel pretty strongly against unwarranted medications (which is not the same as vacs but affects how I feel about them). I've had every vac when I was young except for chicken pox and gardasil. The chicken pox wasn't around and my mom refused the gardasil for me, since I was under 18. Those are the only two that I'm wary about since they haven't been around long enough to really see the long term effects. My fear is that the chicken pox one wears off before they thought and then your child will get it as an adult, which is a lot worse. I'm also worried about the long term effects of gardasil since it hasn't been around long enough to see that. I also refuse to get it myself cause I'm not at risk of HPV or genital warts. If I have a daughter I will let her make that choice to get it herself. However, I'll have to do a lot of research on the chicken pox before I feel comfortable with it.

Here you go for that little quip above. It is silly to think just because you are married or have an SO that you do not run the risk of contracting HPV.

"Anyone who is having (or has ever had) sex can get HPV. HPV is so common that nearly all sexually-active men and women get it at some point in their lives. This is true even for people who only have sex with one person in their lifetime."

You can still have HPV from a previous sexual encounter with someone who had it, even if it was years ago.

The scariest part for me is that you can pass HPV to your child during labor. HPV is also the leading cause of cervical cancer.

Don't be ignorant. I contracted HPV, and ended up having to have a LEEP done. It made me realize how truly lucky I was (and smart) to get regular screenings, and the importance vaccines against HPV, and every other disease, are for myself and my children.

I am not "ignorant". I am quite the opposite. I know about contracting from previous sexual encounters. However, my husband and I have been together since the age of 15 and have been with only each other. So no, I'm not at risk. Thanks for your concern though.

But even a person that has only had sexual encounters with one partner can contract HPV. If you didn't read my direct quote from above, I'll go ahead and say it again:

"..This is true even for people who only have sex with one person in their lifetime."

So, it is still a real possibility. And sure, it's most likely very rare for you, but I would much rather keep safe. And can you 100% say any children you ever have are only going to have sex with one person, who happens to be a virgin as well? Sure, that it'd be great. So would world peace. But, it's an unrealistic way to view the world.

I will give my children vaccines, including HPV because although I want to teach them healthy living, and safe sex, I can't rely on the hopes and rainbows that everyone they encounter with not be a carrier of HPV or have any other disease, contagious sickness or what have you. Especially in the age of anti-vaccines. If anything, now is a time more than ever to vaccinate.

HPV (the virus): Approximately 79 million Americans are currently infected with HPV. About 14 million people become newly infected each year. HPV is so common that nearly all sexually-active men and women will get at least one type of HPV at some point in their lives.

So, sure I am glad you and your SO were devout to each other, but it is not so common in this day and age, and I do not want to risk my children's health on the hopes that they will have a sexual relationship such as yours.

missnacholover

Mysterious_wife said:

I'm totally kidding.  But I wouldn't kick her boyfriend out of bed.  

Oh I would. I am a huge NKOTB fan. He's gross now. Pre-Jenny I'd hit that

Mmmmm, I think he's sexy.  However, not nearly as sexy as his brother.  Yowza.

cmelliott

rjeller32 said:

cmelliott said:

rjeller32 said:

cmelliott said:

I have no kids yet but I feel pretty strongly against unwarranted medications (which is not the same as vacs but affects how I feel about them). I've had every vac when I was young except for chicken pox and gardasil. The chicken pox wasn't around and my mom refused the gardasil for me, since I was under 18. Those are the only two that I'm wary about since they haven't been around long enough to really see the long term effects. My fear is that the chicken pox one wears off before they thought and then your child will get it as an adult, which is a lot worse. I'm also worried about the long term effects of gardasil since it hasn't been around long enough to see that. I also refuse to get it myself cause I'm not at risk of HPV or genital warts. If I have a daughter I will let her make that choice to get it herself. However, I'll have to do a lot of research on the chicken pox before I feel comfortable with it.

Here you go for that little quip above. It is silly to think just because you are married or have an SO that you do not run the risk of contracting HPV.

"Anyone who is having (or has ever had) sex can get HPV. HPV is so common that nearly all sexually-active men and women get it at some point in their lives. This is true even for people who only have sex with one person in their lifetime."

You can still have HPV from a previous sexual encounter with someone who had it, even if it was years ago.

The scariest part for me is that you can pass HPV to your child during labor. HPV is also the leading cause of cervical cancer.

Don't be ignorant. I contracted HPV, and ended up having to have a LEEP done. It made me realize how truly lucky I was (and smart) to get regular screenings, and the importance vaccines against HPV, and every other disease, are for myself and my children.

I am not "ignorant". I am quite the opposite. I know about contracting from previous sexual encounters. However, my husband and I have been together since the age of 15 and have been with only each other. So no, I'm not at risk. Thanks for your concern though.

But even a person that has only had sexual encounters with one partner can contract HPV. If you didn't read my direct quote from above, I'll go ahead and say it again:

"..This is true even for people who only have sex with one person in their lifetime."

So, it is still a real possibility. And sure, it's most likely very rare for you, but I would much rather keep safe. And can you 100% say any children you ever have are only going to have sex with one person, who happens to be a virgin as well? Sure, that it'd be great. So would world peace. But, it's an unrealistic way to view the world.

I will give my children vaccines, including HPV because although I want to teach them healthy living, and safe sex, I can't rely on the hopes and rainbows that everyone they encounter with not be a carrier of HPV or have any other disease, contagious sickness or what have you. Especially in the age of anti-vaccines. If anything, now is a time more than ever to vaccinate.

HPV (the virus): Approximately 79 million Americans are currently infected with HPV. About 14 million people become newly infected each year. HPV is so common that nearly all sexually-active men and women will get at least one type of HPV at some point in their lives.

So, sure I am glad you and your SO were devout to each other, but it is not so common in this day and age, and I do not want to risk my children's health on the hopes that they will have a sexual relationship such as yours.

Perhaps you didn't read my original post. I'll go ahead and say it again. I'll let my daughter choose for herself. That's letting her make the decision based on her sexual preferences. I don't like forcing the shot on her at a young age when there's no need. When she's old enough to have sex she'll be old enough to make the decision on her own using correct information and my guidance. And if she chooses to get it, then that's her decision because it's her body. I only chose not to get it for myself

Jags8

Can we PLEASE just let this thread die?!?!

Mysterious_wife

Jags8 said:

Can we PLEASE just let this thread die?!?!

Never.

Ducktale

 

Mysterious_wife said:

Can we PLEASE just let this thread die?!?!

Never.

It's not even 100 posts yet. Weak.

Mysterious_wife

The last post that was told to end, gets bumped every few month. Just sayin

Mysterious_wife

Why is this still below 100?

FemShep

Mysterious_wife said:

Why is this still below 100?

We're underachievers.

MariaBend25

please read this article: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/elijah-wolfson-/vaccines-debate_b_3916421.html

In short, not vaccinating your child is irresponsible. Diseases that have been dead for decades are resurfacing because parents are misled into not vaccinating their children. There was a scare a while ago about vaccines causing autism ect, but the study was retracted, the scientist found to have other motives, and numerous valid studies have proven vaccines are NOT linked to autism. I can't blame parents who are under the wrong impression because the hype and hysteria promoted by the media has lingered. But facts are facts, it is wise to vaccinate. Just today I saw an article about a school in L.A. having a TB outbreak...didn't specifically say the children weren't vaccinated but one can make an educated guess. If you don't believe this, do your own research on valid medical sites and the evidence is conclusive.

Mysterious_wife

MariaBend25 said:

please read this article: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/elijah-wolfson-/vaccines-debate_b_3916421.html

In short, not vaccinating your child is irresponsible. Diseases that have been dead for decades are resurfacing because parents are misled into not vaccinating their children. There was a scare a while ago about vaccines causing autism ect, but the study was retracted, the scientist found to have other motives, and numerous valid studies have proven vaccines are NOT linked to autism. I can't blame parents who are under the wrong impression because the hype and hysteria promoted by the media has lingered. But facts are facts, it is wise to vaccinate. Just today I saw an article about a school in L.A. having a TB outbreak...didn't specifically say the children weren't vaccinated but one can make an educated guess. If you don't believe this, do your own research on valid medical sites and the evidence is conclusive.

Holy late to the party Batman!

MariaBend25

Mysterious_wife said:

please read this article: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/elijah-wolfson-/vaccines-debate_b_3916421.html

In short, not vaccinating your child is irresponsible. Diseases that have been dead for decades are resurfacing because parents are misled into not vaccinating their children. There was a scare a while ago about vaccines causing autism ect, but the study was retracted, the scientist found to have other motives, and numerous valid studies have proven vaccines are NOT linked to autism. I can't blame parents who are under the wrong impression because the hype and hysteria promoted by the media has lingered. But facts are facts, it is wise to vaccinate. Just today I saw an article about a school in L.A. having a TB outbreak...didn't specifically say the children weren't vaccinated but one can make an educated guess. If you don't believe this, do your own research on valid medical sites and the evidence is conclusive.

Holy late to the party Batman!

four days old? And with debate that went to the dogs? <-- pun intended lol. I figured sticking to the question and providing a simple resource was a good way to end it.

DebateThis

MariaBend25 said:

please read this article: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/elijah-wolfson-/vaccines-debate_b_3916421.html

In short, not vaccinating your child is irresponsible. Diseases that have been dead for decades are resurfacing because parents are misled into not vaccinating their children. There was a scare a while ago about vaccines causing autism ect, but the study was retracted, the scientist found to have other motives, and numerous valid studies have proven vaccines are NOT linked to autism. I can't blame parents who are under the wrong impression because the hype and hysteria promoted by the media has lingered. But facts are facts, it is wise to vaccinate. Just today I saw an article about a school in L.A. having a TB outbreak...didn't specifically say the children weren't vaccinated but one can make an educated guess. If you don't believe this, do your own research on valid medical sites and the evidence is conclusive.

Erm. I agree with most of your points, except we don't vax kids in the US for TB and that specific outbreak is in the Skid Row homeless population and a couple students at a college.

laurakaz13

uconnhuskie007 said:

People who don't vaccinate their kids, in my not so humble opinion, are fucking morons.

This!

Linsley3

I too vaccinated my daughter. I would rather her feel a little pinch and legs be a little puffy than to come down with a terrible illness! Some people are very ignorant when it comes to children. It can become very frustrating!!!

Mysterious_wife

Another one late to the party

Wine&Cupcakes

I know I'm TOTALLY late to this party, BUT, saw this on FB today and it applied to the thread: https://bostonwed-murakami.blogspot.com/2013/09/vaccination-laypersons-perspective_26.html?m=1

Wendy Leaf

The only time a vaccinated child would be a danger to an unvaccinated one is right after they get their shots because they are carrying that virus. That's what I was told. My friend doesn't vaccinate so I did some research when she wanted to bring her son to meet my newborn.

DebateThis

Wendy Leaf said:

The only time a vaccinated child would be a danger to an unvaccinated one is right after they get their shots because they are carrying that virus. That's what I was told. My friend doesn't vaccinate so I did some research when she wanted to bring her son to meet my newborn.

A) You're way late to the party - this post is weeks old.
Viral shedding is a big fat load of crap:

Fortunately, viral shedding is not usually a problem because:

• the MMR vaccine doesn't cause shedding
• the chicken pox vaccine can rarely cause shedding if a child develops a vesicular rash after getting vaccinated, but can be avoided by avoiding direct contact with the rash
• the rotavirus vaccine only causes shedding in stool, so can be avoided with routine hygiene techniques, such as good hand washing, and if immunocompromised people avoid diaper changes, etc., for at least a week after a child gets a rotavirus vaccine
• transmission of the live, nasal spray flu vaccine has not been found in several settings, including people with HIV infection, children getting chemotherapy, and immunocompromised people in health-care settings