Does anybody regret NOT vaccinating their child?

ktallley

I know many people don't think twice about vaccines, it is just automatic for a lot of mothers and fathers to vaccinate. I have been questioning vaccinating my 4 month old son. I have done research after research, and I am not doubting that vaccines prevent certain illnesses. I am curious to learn about the long term side effects vaccines have on our babies. 

So I am asking all you parents out there what your opinion is on NOT vaccinating... 

Is there any parents on here that did not vaccinate and regret it? 

LEMSA

I'm sure the patent who's child died of epiglottis from not getting the HiB vaccine is regretting it. Basically the kid suffocates.

Or the parent who's kid is sterile from the mumps. BC that does happen.

Or the parent who's kid can barely breathe bc they have pertussis. Have you heard the gasping for air sound inbetween coughs? There's been an outbreak. It's around in all 50 states.

But the parent who regrets it the most isn't the parent who's kid is unvaccinated. It's the parent who's kid has cancer and can't get vaccinated. And consequently relies on YOU to vaccinate your child. Because having their kid catch chicken pox while undergoing chemo is devastating. And it happens. Because you are selfish and irresponsible.

Your parents loved you enough to get you vaccinated. Have the same love to your kid.

PB102012

I do not for one second regret vaccinating my daughter.

Kasia7

I also did tons of research and in the end I only vaccinated my LO for diseases that are very serious, common and could be lethal. Thinking about what goes into vaccines beside the actual vaccine it scares me knowing my baby will have that inside her little body. Also, in many countries in Europe there is less vaccines, but there isn't more cases of diseases so what is the point?
 
I know a few people that did not get any vaccines at all and traveled to Africa, Asia etc... and never got sick.
It doesn't mean that I'm not worried my LO will get something, but I just think it's better for her to gain immunity in natural way.

Kasia7

Oh, and I don't think it has anything to do with being irresponsible, you do what you think is best for your LO. Because is it really responsible to give your LO vaccine with ingredients that one day could contribute to their cancer?

taraleanne

Seconding the points of the previous posters... You may also want to speak to your paediatrician about your concerns. 

There is also the long-term problem with diseases that mutate because it's allowed to thrive (due to lack of vaccination) and then the mutated disease becomes a bigger problem because then no one is protected... 

Where I live we were instructed to have a whooping cough booster vaccine and encourage our family and friends to do the same if they would be looking after our infants due to the recent outbreaks in north america - where sadly, babies have died. 

LEMSA

Kasia7 said:

Oh, and I don't think it has anything to do with being irresponsible, you do what you think is best for your LO. Because is it really responsible to give your LO vaccine with ingredients that one day could contribute to their cancer?

Because a small, minute amount of preservative/chemical given in age appropriate doses before the age of 12 will cause cancer.

NOT the sun causing melanoma, unprotected sex contracting HPV, smoking, drinking...or genetics. It's the vaccine.

Right.

Kasia7

It's not vaccines that cause cancer, but some of their ingredients. If you just research ingredients you'll see that some of them are not that pleasant four our bodies. Also, I said that I do think we should vaccinate for things that can be deadly for our LO. I only think there is too many vaccines these days and some of them are not essential.
I (like many other kids) had mumps, chicken pox and flu when I was a baby and I survived. These are not as bad or dangerous. (And how many cases of polio there was in US in past 10 years? try to google that...)

Kasia7

Just one example:
"Formaldehyde has been classified as a known human carcinogen (cancer-causing substance) by the International Agency for Research on Cancer and as a probable human carcinogen by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency."

Kasia7

LEMSA said:

Oh, and I don't think it has anything to do with being irresponsible, you do what you think is best for your LO. Because is it really responsible to give your LO vaccine with ingredients that one day could contribute to their cancer?

Because a small, minute amount of preservative/chemical given in age appropriate doses before the age of 12 will cause cancer. NOT the sun causing melanoma, unprotected sex contracting HPV, smoking, drinking...or genetics. It's the vaccine. Right.

70% of all cancer is environmental causes, not the genetics.

amandarins

I feel like the risk of getting cancer from a vaccine is as likely as getting cancer from sugar free gum.

Vaccines are not a conspiracy, they're meant to protect the public. I just read a devastating story last week about an infant that died of Pertussis, from his mothers point of view. DS just had his 4 month shots yesterday and is having a very rough day but it is a lot better than how he could feel if he didn't get his vaccinations.

WashingtonQueen

I'm laughing my ass off at the people who say we don't know the long term effects of vaccines when we have been using them for 130 years. With formaldehyde I might add.

WashingtonQueen

BTW, there is more formaldehyde in a fucking pear than there is in a vaccine. Eat that!

taraleanne

I was recently travelling to a place that was close to a measles outbreak and I'd have my baby with me who doesn't have that vaccine yet. So I had a discussion with my doctor about it. She told me there is a lot of bogus research out there about why vaccines aren't safe. Propaganda.  The benefits of getting these vaccines FAR outweigh the risks of side effects, whether they be long-term or short-term. I also work in the health care industry (Oncology to be specific)... a teeeny tiny bit of formaldehyde in these vaccines is NOT going to cause cancer later in life. 

trudibell

I don't regret vaccinating my son.  My mother almost died of the measles when she was a child.  Polio was devastating.  I'm a pretty crunchy, cloth diapering, baby food making, anti-chemical mom too, but there is virtually no legitimate reason confirmed by a scholarly peer-reviewed study that what little harm a vaccine does to a child outweighs the positive of preventing deadly diseases.  Don't be an idiot, vaccinate your kid, to forgo a vaccine because of a unsubstantiated belief in a risk of whatever condition later on in life is not just irresponsible to you and yours, but to the rest of us too.  

arlingirl

Do you know how many things formaldehyde is in that we use or or ingest on a daily basis? It's a safe amount...if it wasn't, it wouldn't be approved for use. Do your research. Quit fear mongering. I'm tired of seeing this bs on my Facebook and here. I'll vaccinate my child because idiots won't and I will continue to wash my kid with J&J products.

TashnBabii

AFwifelife said:

I think it's irresponsible to not vaccinate.  I would never forgive myself if DS died of something he could have been easily vaccinated for.

This. Don't be stupid. Vaccines outweigh any risks a baby may have. It's better that they get vaccinated than get seriously ill, or even worse, die from something that could have been easily prevented.

Lelo2006

Thanks for reminding me why I stay on my bmb

missyjg

Let me just tell a brief story. Once upon a time there was a healthy, vibrant and intelligent woman full of life and spunk. She was 6 months pregnant with her second child. She had never had the chicken pox, herpes simplex virus, bad enough to get an immunity. This beauty started feeling ill. She ended up spiking a fever of 106.
Very long story short, this woman, my beloved sister, had herpes simplex encephalitis. Yes, my 33 y/o sister had half of her frontal cortex and all of her temporal lobe taken out. She died on that operating table, not in the physical sense, but she was never the same. This engineer went from complete and total independence to requiring 24/7 care. All from the chicken pox. So the "we survived it as kids" argument is a load of crap.
All diseases are dangerous and if I can protect my child from the life my sister now lives, you bet your ass I'll do it !! I miss my sister every day.

jemasa33

This is my first time venturing from my bmb to this board but I wanted to add...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/apr/24/wish-my-daughter-vaccinated

jemasa33

...and this one is a little more intense with PIP but it is a fact of life...

https://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013/06/06/3776327.htm

opheliainwaders

OP, please remember that it's not just YOUR kid you're vaccinating - by making sure that all of our healthy children are vaccinated, we create herd immunity that protects kids (and adults) whose immune systems are compromised, or who are too young, or who are unable to be vaxxed for a medical reason. Without herd immunity (where at least 90% of a population is vaccinated), diseases like pertussis and polio make a comeback -- FAST. Seconding PP who recommended taking a look at Shot by Shot.

PrimRoseMama

Kasia7 said:

Oh, and I don't think it has anything to do with being irresponsible, you do what you think is best for your LO. Because is it really responsible to give your LO vaccine with ingredients that one day could contribute to their cancer?

What the hell? How the fuck do you even pull vaccines = cancer out of your ass?

13itchyBride

This has got to be MUD. No one with any common sense would even contemplate not vaccinating. If it is real, OP YOU NEED YOUR HEAD EXAMINED!!!

Mom38673

AFwifelife said:

I think it's irresponsible to not vaccinate.  I would never forgive myself if DS died of something he could have been easily vaccinated for.

This!!!!  Things like Polio are not around for this reason.  These illnesses still exist!!!  Without the vaccinations, they will become prominent once again!  I can understand a flu shot ...  those are hit or miss on protection.  But Geeze!  Please re-consider getting the standard shots for your child. 

Carrie3102

Well, I'm late and going to say it anyway... OP Vaccinate... it's like the only thing to do.  You would feel like a piece of shit if your kid died or suffered long term consequences from a preventable disease.

To @kasia7 you're an asshat dude, vaccines do not = cancer.  STFU. 

My MIL was bed ridden for I believe 2 years as a small child, Polio... yep.  Another friend of the family... could barely walk until he died early in life (50s) ... polio... It's still out there... if you don't vaccinate (willfully not because you can't) you are putting the herd immunity at risk.  Yeah, it is definitely completely irresponsible NOT to vaccinate.  Get a fucking clue.

jennme

We are vaccinating. Just starting on a slow schedule..there's an idea...

Shoecrazysarah

trudibell said:

I don't regret vaccinating my son.  My mother almost died of the measles when she was a child.  Polio was devastating.  I'm a pretty crunchy, cloth diapering, baby food making, anti-chemical mom too, but there is virtually no legitimate reason confirmed by a scholarly peer-reviewed study that what little harm a vaccine does to a child outweighs the positive of preventing deadly diseases.  Don't be an idiot, vaccinate your kid, to forgo a vaccine because of a unsubstantiated belief in a risk of whatever condition later on in life is not just irresponsible to you and yours, but to the rest of us too.  

Took the words out of my mouth! To those in favor of not vaccinating, of whom have "done their research", please post your legitimate source. I.e. A published peer reviewed scholarly study.

Shoecrazysarah

Kasia7 said:

I also did tons of research and in the end I only vaccinated my LO for diseases that are very serious, common and could be lethal. Thinking about what goes into vaccines beside the actual vaccine it scares me knowing my baby will have that inside her little body. Also, in many countries in Europe there is less vaccines, but there isn't more cases of diseases so what is the point?
 
I know a few people that did not get any vaccines at all and traveled to Africa, Asia etc... and never got sick.
It doesn't mean that I'm not worried my LO will get something, but I just think it's better for her to gain immunity in natural way.

Er. What? Europe has eradicated many diseases due to a strict vaccination schedule. Therefore, vaccinations for those diseases are no longer required. If I remember correctly, Europe also requires vaccines when traveling out of the continent to make sure said diseases stay eradicated. Whereas the US allows its citizens to travel anywhere in the world unvaccinated and potentially return with diseases.

By your logic those in Central Africa should not be vaccinated for Malaria, because here in the US the Malaria vaccine is not part of our routine schedule and we don't have Malaria problems.

nchapman@olivet.edu

I never reply on these forums, I just read opinions. Usually. But here I need to say something. I'm not going to say that anyone is an idiot... but that I'm shocked at how hateful some of your responses have been. There is a loving way to say the facts, give your opinion, or prove a point. You don't need to make any one feel terrible about themselves. After all, I highly doubt any mom who browses forums about their baby in their free time are going to be the purposefully- neglectful type. So yeah, let's keep the hateful words to ourselves. Would you want your child reading what some of you mom's have written? Come on!!!

nchapman@olivet.edu

Hmmm. That's too bad.

nchapman@olivet.edu

All I was saying is there is a kind way to speak. I have my opinions on the matter, I vaccinate (although not blindly, we've done our research). But, OP, don't feel stupid at all for having questions... they are good questions and worth researching. My piece of advice would be to search out some of the less-biased research out there. And yes, I think I'd regret it if I didn't vaccinate. That's why I ended up choosing to.

nchapman@olivet.edu

@nicb13 - just bc someone speaks kindly doesn't mean we have no backbone. Gimme a break. There's a civil way to have discussions.

RondackHiker

nchapman@olivet.edu said:

All I was saying is there is a kind way to speak. I have my opinions on the matter, I vaccinate (although not blindly, we've done our research). But, OP, don't feel stupid at all for having questions... they are good questions and worth researching. My piece of advice would be to search out some of the less-biased research out there. And yes, I think I'd regret it if I didn't vaccinate. That's why I ended up choosing to.

Oh? You've done your research?

As much research as the CDC and AAP did when they developed the recommended vaccine schedule?

How many trials did you do? How many participants per trial? How many of your studies were published in per reviewed journals?

pantsarella

RondackHiker said:

All I was saying is there is a kind way to speak. I have my opinions on the matter, I vaccinate (although not blindly, we've done our research). But, OP, don't feel stupid at all for having questions... they are good questions and worth researching. My piece of advice would be to search out some of the less-biased research out there. And yes, I think I'd regret it if I didn't vaccinate. That's why I ended up choosing to.

Oh? You've done your research? As much research as the CDC and AAP did when they developed the recommended vaccine schedule? How many trials did you do? How many participants per trial? How many of your studies were published in per reviewed journals?

Amen sister. I hate when people say they've done their research and decided not to vaccinate. Clearly you didn't do enough research. And sources like vaccinetruth.org and some random blog you found does NOT count as research. 

I just had a 2 day argument with someone about this the other day. So honestly, if anyone has any "research" they'd like me to TEAR APART and tell you why it's inaccurate, please let me know. I hate this argument.

pantsarella

PrimRoseMama said:

Oh, and I don't think it has anything to do with being irresponsible, you do what you think is best for your LO. Because is it really responsible to give your LO vaccine with ingredients that one day could contribute to their cancer?

What the hell? How the fuck do you even pull vaccines = cancer out of your ass?

WHAT?! You don't know about the cancerous monkey kidney cells in vaccines? Or the aborted fetuses? Clearly, you should do your research. 

Seriously though- those are 2 arguments I had to go against recently.

kimberlymacrae

I think @Kasia7 doesn't want to play anymore.

imakeeff0rts

nchapman@olivet.edu said:

All I was saying is there is a kind way to speak. I have my opinions on the matter, I vaccinate (although not blindly, we've done our research). But, OP, don't feel stupid at all for having questions... they are good questions and worth researching. My piece of advice would be to search out some of the less-biased research out there. And yes, I think I'd regret it if I didn't vaccinate. That's why I ended up choosing to.

Oh, sweet fancy Moses. Someone has a serious case of the herp derps.

BTW - you may not want to use your work e-mail as your user name.

kimberlymacrae

imakeeff0rts said:

All I was saying is there is a kind way to speak. I have my opinions on the matter, I vaccinate (although not blindly, we've done our research). But, OP, don't feel stupid at all for having questions... they are good questions and worth researching. My piece of advice would be to search out some of the less-biased research out there. And yes, I think I'd regret it if I didn't vaccinate. That's why I ended up choosing to.

Oh, sweet fancy Moses. Someone has a serious case of the herp derps. BTW - you may not want to use your work e-mail as your user name.

tinydancerpammy

Kasia7 said:

It's not vaccines that cause cancer, but some of their ingredients. If you just research ingredients you'll see that some of them are not that pleasant four our bodies. Also, I said that I do think we should vaccinate for things that can be deadly for our LO. I only think there is too many vaccines these days and some of them are not essential.
I (like many other kids) had mumps, chicken pox and flu when I was a baby and I survived. These are not as bad or dangerous. (And how many cases of polio there was in US in past 10 years? try to google that...)

Please don't take your advice from someone who does not know the difference between 'four'/'for', 'is'/'are', and 'was'/'were'.

PeanutButterLove

I have never commented on anything before but this is something I feel strongly about, I think that it's unfair for anyone to criticize another persons parenting style/choices.

As with anything in life, especially today's world, there are so many choices about anything and everything!

Vaccines have there pros and cons.

Pros are obvious, there is a very good chance you child will not catch any of the diseases they've been vaccinated for but vaccines are also not 100% effective. This helps stop the spread of these diseases to others. BUT think . . . how is it fair to force a parent to put something in their child's body that they are not comfortable with?

Cons . . .
These are some of the ingredients in vaccines that you may have given your child:
Monkey kidney cells (which used to be untested and spread serious diseases from the primates)
Aluminum (in extremely high amounts that has never been tested on the effects of infant or adults kidneys and other essential parts of the body)
Cow fetal blood
Blood/cells of aborted human embryos
formaldehyde (yes it's a very small amount)
other preservatives that are not meant to go into a body, especially a little body like the one's of our babies.

Our personal decision was to only vaccinate for common and serious diseases. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing choice and for certain vaccines (like Hep if it is possible to wait until the child is older and bigger, their body will better handle the ingredients in the vaccine, then they will also have a choice in the matter.

I think it's time we stop fighting about the matter and take time to consider others choices and support others!

God Bless you and your family!