Cloth Petition

theultimatesak

There's a petition being presented to WIC to encourage them to provide info on modern cloth diapering.  Here's the link if anyone is interested

https://www.change.org/petitions/wic-to-add-cloth-diapers

CLLDLL

Signed.   Thanks for sharing!

blondolphn

Oo when I'm not mobile,I need to post on fb.

Danie007

Signed and shared!

runningyogimama

That's awesome! Also signed and shared!

ABColeslaw

Signed.  Thanks for posting!

cedenton

I'm curious. Has anyone ever heard of a Change.org petition making any kind of difference. I have no problem signing it. Just wondering.

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cedenton

Thanks @secretagentkate!

nanabanana06

You know this is one of the big reasons why I'm trying to take a Child Birth Educator course. I remember those stupid classes they make you take at the hospital. They get to newborn care portion and completely skips over CDs. Ours only had a prefold and cover and a sheet on diaper service. Nobody knew a damn thing about real cloth diapers. It was sad.

LatteLady5

The link won't work for me but if I can get it to work later I'll sign too. I absolutely think it's a great idea but I don't know what will actually come of it. One of my good friends is a dietician and worked with WIC through a grant of some sort to put together a program to promote breastfeeding. Only one mom ended up showing up.

nanabanana06

LatteLady5 said:

The link won't work for me but if I can get it to work later I'll sign too. I absolutely think it's a great idea but I don't know what will actually come of it. One of my good friends is a dietician and worked with WIC through a grant of some sort to put together a program to promote breastfeeding. Only one mom ended up showing up.

Most moms I know on WIC aren't on WIC for the 5 gallons oif milk and block of cheese each month. They are there for the free formula. So, that doesn't surprise me.

LatteLady5

Nana_Osaki06 said:

LatteLady5 said:

The link won't work for me but if I can get it to work later I'll sign too. I absolutely think it's a great idea but I don't know what will actually come of it. One of my good friends is a dietician and worked with WIC through a grant of some sort to put together a program to promote breastfeeding. Only one mom ended up showing up.

Most moms I know on WIC aren't on WIC for the 5 gallons oif milk and block of cheese each month. They are there for the free formula. So, that doesn't surprise me.

I think the class was for expectant moms, not moms already receiving formula. I have a lot of mom friends who receive formula through WIC and I'm so glad they are able to. I just wish there were more BF resources, help and education etc. pushed as well. While I think the idea of encouraging CD is fabulous, I can't imagine it would go over any better here

nanabanana06

LatteLady5 said:

Nana_Osaki06 said:

LatteLady5 said:

The link won't work for me but if I can get it to work later I'll sign too. I absolutely think it's a great idea but I don't know what will actually come of it. One of my good friends is a dietician and worked with WIC through a grant of some sort to put together a program to promote breastfeeding. Only one mom ended up showing up.

Most moms I know on WIC aren't on WIC for the 5 gallons oif milk and block of cheese each month. They are there for the free formula. So, that doesn't surprise me.

I think the class was for expectant moms, not moms already receiving formula. I have a lot of mom friends who receive formula through WIC and I'm so glad they are able to. I just wish there were more BF resources, help and education etc. pushed as well. While I think the idea of encouraging CD is fabulous, I can't imagine it would go over any better here

I was  in WIC. They pushed BFing a lot in the prenatal meetings. They gave out booklets, handpumps, ect. I had sheets of LC's and info for the LLL. I even got my first pump through WIC (100$ for a PISA). I just think that most mothers who use WIC use it for formula, not for BFing. BFing moms just get food and not good food. Just some milk and a few tiny things you'd use (like 1 loaf of bread and 1 doz eggs each month). Not worth it to stay in the program where there isn't more of a benefit for BFing mothers.

sarenu1

That's pretty sad that they don't give an incentive for breastfeeding. Like addition credit for food, since breastfeeding moms need to consume more calories.

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shan417

Nana_Osaki06 said:

You know this is one of the big reasons why I'm trying to take a Child Birth Educator course. I remember those stupid classes they make you take at the hospital. They get to newborn care portion and completely skips over CDs. Ours only had a prefold and cover and a sheet on diaper service. Nobody knew a damn thing about real cloth diapers. It was sad.

Our hospital didn't go over diapers at all, come to think of it.  I think it's a great idea if you can educate new moms about them.  Especially when the concept of CDs is fresh in their mind when they go home and see how many diaper changes they go through the first week.

Every time I think about how cost effective CDs can be, even pockets and AIOs, I think about my SILs.  They never have enough diapers with them when we go somewhere and in my opinion don't change them often enough either.  I know they have had a lot of problems with leaks too (probably from being in them too long) and I think they just don't have the money to keep spending a ton on diapers.  They get WIC and if they had known about CDs when their kids were a little younger they could have saved a ton.

nanabanana06

SecretAgentKate said:

i used wic when i had Oliver and I was breastfeeding and got a pretty decent supplement to the food package that we were receiving for my oldest.  i was bummed to find out afterwards they would have given me a pump

I think it depends on your state, but in our state the "food" is 5 gallons of milk, 2 1lb blocks of cheese, some canned juice, a box of cereal, dried beans, 1 doz eggs, 1 loaf of bread, and 5$ worth of veggies. Not super worth it, it's nice, but the selection is sooooo limited. When Formula moms get 10 small cans of formula each month. Much more of an incentive!

LatteLady5

Nana_Osaki06 said:

LatteLady5 said:

Nana_Osaki06 said:

LatteLady5 said:

The link won't work for me but if I can get it to work later I'll sign too. I absolutely think it's a great idea but I don't know what will actually come of it. One of my good friends is a dietician and worked with WIC through a grant of some sort to put together a program to promote breastfeeding. Only one mom ended up showing up.

Most moms I know on WIC aren't on WIC for the 5 gallons oif milk and block of cheese each month. They are there for the free formula. So, that doesn't surprise me.

I think the class was for expectant moms, not moms already receiving formula. I have a lot of mom friends who receive formula through WIC and I'm so glad they are able to. I just wish there were more BF resources, help and education etc. pushed as well. While I think the idea of encouraging CD is fabulous, I can't imagine it would go over any better here

I was  in WIC. They pushed BFing a lot in the prenatal meetings. They gave out booklets, handpumps, ect. I had sheets of LC's and info for the LLL. I even got my first pump through WIC (100$ for a PISA). I just think that most mothers who use WIC use it for formula, not for BFing. BFing moms just get food and not good food. Just some milk and a few tiny things you'd use (like 1 loaf of bread and 1 doz eggs each month). Not worth it to stay in the program where there isn't more of a benefit for BFing mothers.

sarenu1 and think if there were more incentives to BF more moms might do it, or at least try.

I think it's a great idea for WIC to give out information on CD, I just don't know how much good it will actually do unless more than just information is provided. I didn't even know people really CD until after I had DD and didn't consider it until she was older. I only know a couple of people IRL that CD. I'm the extended rear facing, cloth diapering, breastfeeding weirdo :P

LatteLady5

shan417 said:

Nana_Osaki06 said:

You know this is one of the big reasons why I'm trying to take a Child Birth Educator course. I remember those stupid classes they make you take at the hospital. They get to newborn care portion and completely skips over CDs. Ours only had a prefold and cover and a sheet on diaper service. Nobody knew a damn thing about real cloth diapers. It was sad.

Our hospital didn't go over diapers at all, come to think of it.  I think it's a great idea if you can educate new moms about them.  Especially when the concept of CDs is fresh in their mind when they go home and see how many diaper changes they go through the first week.

Every time I think about how cost effective CDs can be, even pockets and AIOs, I think about my SILs.  They never have enough diapers with them when we go somewhere and in my opinion don't change them often enough either.  I know they have had a lot of problems with leaks too (probably from being in them too long) and I think they just don't have the money to keep spending a ton on diapers.  They get WIC and if they had known about CDs when their kids were a little younger they could have saved a ton.

There was a family at church one Sunday who didn't have any diapers for their daughter. They had taken the last disposable diaper off of one of their daughter's teddy bears that morning. I only had cloth with me but found one for them in the nursery. (Don't worry, someone bought them diapers) There was a month or two back an article on SAHM about parents who didn't have enough money for diapers. Some parents were blow drying used disposable diapers that were peed in and reusing them After becoming a mom it like rips my heart out to read or meet people who can't afford basic stuff for their kids.

nanabanana06

Honestly, I find WIC to be kind of a joke. They try to promote "healthy" eating, but their "healthy" food choices aren't that healthy. I have no idea where they though Tree Top apple juice in a big ass can and Life cereal were "healthy". Now, if they gave more fresh veggie and fruit checks then I think it would be better, but 5$?? That's a bunch of banana's and a few apples... maybe. Also, the second your kid hits 6 months you get less formula checks and more of jarred food and cereal. I asked them about those of us who make our own baby food and they said to just not use those coupons. I used them and donated to food banks. I wish they would of just had a program for those of us who wanted to make our own baby food and not just force us to buy jarred. The whole program is flawed. However, it is a nice option for those that are in need of it, it just needs some work.

LatteLady5

Nana_Osaki06 said:

Honestly, I find WIC to be kind of a joke. They try to promote "healthy" eating, but their "healthy" food choices aren't that healthy. I have no idea where they though Tree Top apple juice in a big ass can and Life cereal were "healthy". Now, if they gave more fresh veggie and fruit checks then I think it would be better, but 5$?? That's a bunch of banana's and a few apples... maybe. Also, the second your kid hits 6 months you get less formula checks and more of jarred food and cereal. I asked them about those of us who make our own baby food and they said to just not use those coupons. I used them and donated to food banks. I wish they would of just had a program for those of us who wanted to make our own baby food and not just force us to buy jarred. The whole program is flawed. However, it is a nice option for those that are in need of it, it just needs some work.

I agree with this entirely. My sister literally ended up with 50+jars of baby food and several boxes of "cereal." She passed them on to me but DD never liked purees so I gave them away/donated them. I'm glad the program is there and I know a lot of people need it so for that I'm thankful, but yeah...It could definitely be better.

shan417

Nana_Osaki06 said:

Honestly, I find WIC to be kind of a joke. They try to promote "healthy" eating, but their "healthy" food choices aren't that healthy. I have no idea where they though Tree Top apple juice in a big ass can and Life cereal were "healthy". Now, if they gave more fresh veggie and fruit checks then I think it would be better, but 5$?? That's a bunch of banana's and a few apples... maybe. Also, the second your kid hits 6 months you get less formula checks and more of jarred food and cereal. I asked them about those of us who make our own baby food and they said to just not use those coupons. I used them and donated to food banks. I wish they would of just had a program for those of us who wanted to make our own baby food and not just force us to buy jarred. The whole program is flawed. However, it is a nice option for those that are in need of it, it just needs some work.

I feel like given the right tools and authority, you could change the world.

Danie007

WIC may not be perfect, but like pp said at least it's something for those that really need it. When I was on it the case workers that I dealt with helped me out pretty well. I commented that the doctor was concerned about J's weight gain while I was breastfeeding. She asked me about my supply/pumping/etc. even suggesting fenugreek to help boost my supply when I had to pump more.

tjkdlhb

signed!

DH wasn't too keen on CDing at first... then after he realized how great they are, how much money we save, how well they work etc... he said that he wished that there was a public education campaign outlining the benefits!

The public health nurse asked if we were planning to use cloth or disposables at one of my prenatal sessions.  She was super pleased when I said we were going to try cloth.  Then at one of the follow-up appointments asked me if she could pass my email number along to moms who were on the fence or planning to CD.

tjkdlhb

**email address...not number...

freezorburn

I do remember taking an infant care class at the hospital where we gave birth, and when we got to diapering we could choose between cloth and disposable. I asked to see both. Honestly, I hadn't seen a disposable diaper in decades, since my little sister was in them! So I was surprised to see the velcro-y repositionable tabs. Back in the day I remember they were adhesive and if you screwed up and wanted to reposition it, it would tear the outer layer of the diaper, so that diaper was done.

I think they had a fitted or AIO for cloth to practice. Can't really remember now. I think we spent less than 5 minutes on diapering, so there wasn't much talk about caring for the diapers or different types. They did have a brochure for a local diaper service, but I can't say they were particularly pushing that vs. washing your own.