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Intro..loss mentioned and ds...and ?****UPDATE****!!!

edited November 2013 in TTC after 35
Hello to everyone! I have ds born 3/12 had a chemical pregnancy in July.. Got pregnant again and diagnosed with blighted ovum last month...had to wait a cycle so now on cd 11 to start this month. I get pregnant but can't stay pregnant. My dr did no testing said for me to just wait for golden egg...should I demand testing? I also ask family dr.(via nurse)..she didn't even call me back:( thought I would start out with progesterone and fsh ,etc.....good luck to all us ladies on this board...trying to stay positive..
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Re: Intro..loss mentioned and ds...and ?****UPDATE****!!!

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    I'm so sorry for your losses.  It is very hard and scary to move forward.  I hope you find this board helpful and friendly.

    I'm a huge advocate for being as aggressive and knowledgeable as possible when it comes to anything health related.  I'm not a doctor and not in the medical field but I've been down this IF road long enough to know that something as simple as blood test can save a pregnancy.  Maybe it's something simple like low progesterone…easy fix!  I think it is beyond insensitive for your doctor to tell you to "wait for the golden egg"  Are you effing kidding me?  No offense to you but that would have been my last appointment with that doctor.

    Blood work won't harm you at all.  It will put your mind at ease if everything is normal or you can have a plan of action if something isn't quite right.

    I'm assuming because you posted here you are AMA.  I wouldn't wait.  I'd find another doctor and get the ball rolling.


    ~Married 11/08~
    ~TTC since 01/09~
    ~SA & B/W - 06/09 - Normal~
    ~Encouraged by OB to "just keep trying" 06/09 - 06/10 (oh, the wasted time)~
    ~HSG - 08/10 - Clear/Normal~
    ~Lapo - 01/11 - Normal~
    ~Clomid 50mg, Trigger shot, Prometrium - 01/11, 02/11, 03/11~
    ~BFN - 02/11~
    ~IUI #1 03/15/11~
    BFP 3/28/2011
    Diagnosed with GD at 28 weeks. Controlled through diet and exercise. No insulin.
    Diagnosed with Cholestasis of pregnancy @ 36 weeks.
    Delivered via C-section @ 36 weeks on 11/9/11.

    TTC#2 for a few months naturally (ha!)
    ~IUI#1, Clomid, Trigger,  10/13 - BFN
    ~IUI#2, Femera, Ovidrel, 11/13




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    Do they have to do the blood work on a certain cycle day? They gave me prometrium suppositories on last two pregnancies because hcg wasn't doubling. Progesterone was low..like 11.5 or something..200 mg twice daily...still didn't work...I ask shouldn't I start it at ovulation or couple days so babies would stick and was told no...wait for hpt to be +...that seems counterproductive???my husband is from Europe and had me do prometrium 3 days past ovulation...like in Europe,,,my ds didn't have any problems...sorry so,long post:(
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    It depends on what they are testing for…Certain b/w (FSH) has to be done on days 2-4 (?) of your cycle.  The other tests I'm not entirely sure but I don't think timing is as important.  I wish I could be more helpful with specificsI can only speak to what I have been exposed to but my knowledge of progesterone is more in line with your H's experience.  For example, I had my IUI on Monday and will begin Prometrium on Thurdsayso 3 days passed ovulation. I have been told that progesterone won't hurt you if you don't need it but will support if you do.  Is your husband in the medical field?  Either way, you and your doctor need to get on the same page.  


    ~Married 11/08~
    ~TTC since 01/09~
    ~SA & B/W - 06/09 - Normal~
    ~Encouraged by OB to "just keep trying" 06/09 - 06/10 (oh, the wasted time)~
    ~HSG - 08/10 - Clear/Normal~
    ~Lapo - 01/11 - Normal~
    ~Clomid 50mg, Trigger shot, Prometrium - 01/11, 02/11, 03/11~
    ~BFN - 02/11~
    ~IUI #1 03/15/11~
    BFP 3/28/2011
    Diagnosed with GD at 28 weeks. Controlled through diet and exercise. No insulin.
    Diagnosed with Cholestasis of pregnancy @ 36 weeks.
    Delivered via C-section @ 36 weeks on 11/9/11.

    TTC#2 for a few months naturally (ha!)
    ~IUI#1, Clomid, Trigger,  10/13 - BFN
    ~IUI#2, Femera, Ovidrel, 11/13




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    edited November 2013
    No actually my H is a lawyer...lol...but he has known several people that have been through fertility treatments. They went to Greece for treatments, and they started the progesterone two to three days after ovulation. I have 3 refills from my first miscarriage so after I see surge on my stick gonna do it this cycle...I know it won't hurt , maybe will help:). I read not to do before will stop ovulation I think...I did have a u/s and they checked ovaries , tubes and uterus...they said everything looked very good...they also said I had corpus lutem( I think it called) which showed I ovulated.
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    I wish you the best of luck. Keep us posted!!
    ~Married 11/08~
    ~TTC since 01/09~
    ~SA & B/W - 06/09 - Normal~
    ~Encouraged by OB to "just keep trying" 06/09 - 06/10 (oh, the wasted time)~
    ~HSG - 08/10 - Clear/Normal~
    ~Lapo - 01/11 - Normal~
    ~Clomid 50mg, Trigger shot, Prometrium - 01/11, 02/11, 03/11~
    ~BFN - 02/11~
    ~IUI #1 03/15/11~
    BFP 3/28/2011
    Diagnosed with GD at 28 weeks. Controlled through diet and exercise. No insulin.
    Diagnosed with Cholestasis of pregnancy @ 36 weeks.
    Delivered via C-section @ 36 weeks on 11/9/11.

    TTC#2 for a few months naturally (ha!)
    ~IUI#1, Clomid, Trigger,  10/13 - BFN
    ~IUI#2, Femera, Ovidrel, 11/13




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    edited November 2013

    With my IVF cycle we started Progesterone in oil shots the day after retrieval.  In an IVF cycle retrieval day is considered ovulation day. Can you inquire about shots vs suppositories with your doc? There is quite a bit of discussion on which is better, but my clicnic said shots are the way to go.  As well, the shots help in monitoring progesterone levels if you end up having bloodwork to test that. I don't believe progesterone levels get detected in blood work when using the suppositories and that's why many RE's use shots so they can monitor it closely.  Given that you have low levels, I'd think your doc would want to do the best thing for you to increase you chance for success.

    Are you considering going to an RE or a doc who will do a full work up of testing on you and your H?  I know your doc said wait for the golden egg, but I personally would want more out of my doc for something that is so important. With the proper medical care perhaps it would make you successful sooner.  As others said, I would be moving on from this doc pretty darn quickly.  Doesn't seem like he/she is willing to do the necessary testing and create a protocol that is best for you and your H.

    I hope however you plan to proceed that you find success very soon, though!

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    IUIs: 2 in 2012 ... Both BFN
    IVF #1: 10/16/13 ... BFP, however it was not viable and ended in an early loss at 7weeks.

    IVF #2: Feb '14 ... Cancelled. Positive beta at baseline appt, became very early loss.
    IVF #2: Apr '
    14 ... Retrieval Only. 2 embryos made it to day 3 freeze & will be batched with IVF #3 for PGD testing.
    IVF #3: June '14
    ...
    Retrieval Only. 4 embryos growing, all arrested before day 5. Two from April thawed, but also arrested.
    Currently benched while determining how to proceed.

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    I can help you a little. I just repeated most of these tests. I was told by my RE that FSH is to be done day 2 or 3 of your cycle. I also did estradiol, TSH- a thyroid test and AMH levels. My RE mentioned that only FSH had to be done at a specific time so I did all my tests on the same day it was easier. Since I did Ivf my experience of progesterone was like private one's above. My tests were done about a year ago and my numbers are much worse. i would run the tests as soon as you can so you have the whole picture. Hope this helps.

    Me 38 MH 41 - TTC since June 2010 - dx with Severe MFI. Straight to IVF with ICSI. IVF #1 - ER 06/13/12 - 9 Eggs Retrieved - 4 ICSI'd - only 2 fert. 06/15/12 - 2DT - 3 cell & 6 cell with fragmentation. Beta 06/29/12 - IVF #1 = BFN. 07/20/12 - WTF Appt -Told by our RE to quit IVF. Second Opinion from RE is good. IVF#2 - November 2012. Estradiol Pills Started 11/6. Stims start 11/16. ER 11/26 - 7 eggs retrieved - all mature. 4 fertilized with ICSI. ET 11/29 Transferred 3 embryos. Beta is 12/10. 1st Beta 81 2nd Beta 160 and 3rd beta 360!!! First U/S 12/21/12 - We saw one beautiful gest. sac. 2nd U/S is 01/04/2013 - H/B 183 02/05/13 - NT Scan - everything looks good and IT'S A BOY!  Aiden was born 08/20/2013.

    IVF #2 is in progress.  ER was 05/12/14 - 11 eggs retrieved, 8 fertilized with ICSI.  ET was 05/15/14 - we transferred 3 embryos as we did on the cycle my son was conceived.  We were able to freeze 3 embryos. Beta is scheduled for 05/26/14.  1st beta - 111.  2nd beta - 159 didn't double :( 3rd beta Friday 5/30) - not a lot of hope left. Beta # 3 is 247 - probably ectopic.  Beta # 4 is 813 - possibly vanishing multiple sydrome?  06/05/14 - 5w4days - first U/S - we see a gestational sac and yolk - still have hope!  06/17/14 - 7w1day - U/S and saw and heard the heartbeat - Finally!  06/27/14 - 8w4days - Baby and heartbeat look and sound great :)  EDD 02/01/14 and It's a boy!


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    Thank you all for the info! Helped a lot :) I'm gonna try this cycle with prometrium if I get pregnant and it sticks great if not then yes I'm going to look into an re in my area. I actually have gotten pregnant quickly each time but miscarry...ds no problems...they checked hsg and progesterone tell me it's low and hsg is not doubling and do prometrium supplements but obviously is either to late to stick or maybe chromosomal ...in case it's the sticking is why H wants me to start at O this month...is that all clear as mud:)
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    We'll family dr called and set me up with a fertility specialist ..I go Tuesday...I started using progesterone supp 3 days after O will this effect any test he runs? If so would it be ok to stop them a couple days before? I was gonna test Tuesday morning before going will be 12 dpo...or will he wait to see if af shows to do the tests then you think? Sorry new to all this:(
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    Hi, and welcome. I'm glad you have a plan to move forward and wish you the best of luck!

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    My BLOG: www.ivfbabyquest.wordpress.com -Update - old blog.

    PAIF/SAIF Welcome!
    Me: 42, Hubby: 35, TTC since Jan 2010. Dx: DOR due to advanced maternal age. Also: Hypothyroidism (100mcg Levothyroxin). Positive for MTHFR (hetero-C677T), Factor V Leiden, and Fragile X (on DH side). Taking pre-natal vitamins
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    First natural PG 9/27/11; mc: 1/20/12

    First RE visit: 8/8/12, Saline Sonogram: 8/28/12, IVF injection class: 10/11/12, add FaBB Tab for FVL, +Vitamin D.
    IVF #1: 10/17/12 Baseline: FSH- 9.4, E2- 24, LH- 3.7, Prog- 0.3 The u/s showed 6 follicles in my right  & 9 in my left. Rx: 150 Bravelle & 150 Menopur SQ nightly. 10/21/12: Add Ganirelix SQ every morning.
    ER 10/28/12: 13 Retreived. 7 Mature. 6 Fertilized. 5 Made it to PGS. ET 11/2/12: CANCELED. All 5 came back from PGS as having "severe abnormalities."
    IVF #2: 1/7/13 Baseline: FSH- 8.8, 4 follicles in my right & 6 in my left. Rx: 150 Bravelle & 150 Menopur SQ nightly. 1/11/13: Add Ganirelix SQ every morning. hCG Trigger 1/16/13

    ER 1/18/13: 9 Retrieved. 5 Mature. 5 Fertilized. 2 Made it to PGS. ET 1/23/13: CANCELED. All embryos (he even sent the ones not growing) came back from PGS as having "multiple severe abnormalities."
    IVF #3:
    NEW RE! 3/1/13 Baseline: FSH- 9.6, E2- 61, Prog- 0.94, 3 follicles in my right & 4 in my left. Rx: 150 Bravelle& 150 Menopur SQ in PM. 3/7/13: Add Ganirelix SQ in AM. hCG Trigger 3/9/13 SQ.
    ER 3/11/13: 6R, 2M, 2F. Day 3: one 8 cell, grade 0.  Five day ET 3/16/13: one early blast, grade Fair. 3/24/13 AF came a day before beta. BFN

    IVF #4: 
    (Added acupuncture to this cycle.) 3/25/13 WTF & Baseline: FSH-11.8, E2- 56, Prog- 0.84 3/26/13 Start stims. 3/30/13 u/s: 5 follicles in my right & 4 in my left. Rx: 225 Bravelle& 225 Menopur SQ in PM. 3/31/13 Add Ganirelix SQ in AM.hCG Trigger 4/3/13 SQ.
    ER 4/5/13: 5R, 3M, 3F naturally. Day 3: two 8 cell, grade 0, one 8 cell, grade 2 (Scale 0-best to 3-worst). Five day ET 4/10/13: two blastocysts (the 3rd stopped growing.) Beta 4/18/13: 2.5 BFFN. RE recommends we stop trying and focus on living childless, due to the extremely poor quality of my eggs.
    ***Decided to stop trying and live CFNBC. I couldn't adjust. So, six months later...

    IVF #5: Changed RE. Going to one of the big name clinics now. OWDU: 10/29/13. Update: HORRIBLE experience. Disgusted and distraught at their complete unprofessionalism and how much money and precious time they cost us. Sickening. Have now changed RE again. New Patient appt. 1/30/14.
    BFP! Out of nowhere, I got KU the old fashioned way! POAS 1/26/14 - Positive! FDLM 12/30/13. Beta #1 16dpo= 373. Beta #2 18dpo= 801. EDD 10/6/14
    2/4/14 1st U/S revealed a 5wk2day sac but no fetal pole. Started 200mgs of progesterone suppositories daily
    2/11/14 2nd U/S revealed a perfect 6wk1day "diamond ring" embryo with a beating heart! 138bpm! Add 1mg folic acid and 40mg Lovenox
    2/25/14 3rd U/S: perfect 8w1d embryo, 178bpm. 3/6 start spotting. 3/11 10w1d U/S shows no heartbeat. Scheduling D&C. The Stork has forsaken me again.
    IVF #5.2: New in-state RE. Supplement priming for 1.5 cycles prior to start of cycle, including DHEA 50mg (stopped 5/15), CoQ10 200mg 2x/day, L-Arginine- 1000mg 2x/day (stopped 6/5 due to cold sore!), myo-inositol- 2g 2x/day, melatonin- 3mg, and Neevo (prenatal for MTHFR).
    5/16/14 Day 2 bw cycle prior: FSH- 12.22, E2- 38.37, Prog- 1.35, LH- 9.46. 6/2/14 Day 19 bw: Prog- 23
    6/12/14 Baseline: E2- 122.7, Prog- 0.4. 5 follicles in left, 4 follicles in right. Start stims: 375IU Follistim & 150IU Menopur. 6/19 Increase Follistim to 425IU, Menopur still 150IU. 6/18 add Ganirelix. 6/23 Ovidrel trigger SQ. 6/25 ER: 8R, 8M, 5F naturally. Start Medrol & Doxy. 6/26 Start Endometrin. 7/2 Start Lovenox.
    7/8/14 Beta= 137.4 BFP!!! (My first from IVF!) E2- 1109, Prog- >60. Stop CoQ10, myo-inositol, and melatonin. 7/9 2nd Beta= 281.4. TSH- 2.70. Increasing Synthroid to 100mcg daily. 7/24 6w3d u/s measured 6w3d, hb: 121bmp! 8/5 8w1d u/s measured 8w3d, hb: 164bpm! Graduated from RE to OB. Now I just need to find an OB!
    EDD 3/18/15!

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    edited November 2013
    We'll family dr called and set me up with a fertility specialist ..I go Tuesday...I started using progesterone supp 3 days after O will this effect any test he runs? If so would it be ok to stop them a couple days before? I was gonna test Tuesday morning before going will be 12 dpo...or will he wait to see if af shows to do the tests then you think? Sorry new to all this:(
    The first testing he will likely do is CD3 bloodwork, it would be 7 DPO bloodwork that tests for progesterone.  I think as long as you stop the prometrium when you get your period you should be fine for the tests, and I'd guess that you shouldn't be taking prometrium next cycle so that the 7 DPO tests are true to what your body does naturally, but I don't know for sure, you might want to ask about all of this at the RE's office. 


         

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    Daughter from previous marriage: 20

    BFP 12/19/12: Ectopic discovered at 8 weeks, right tube removed 01/18/13
    June 2013 Testing Results: Progesterone: 31.7, LH: 5, FSH: 5, Estradiol: 161
    Clomid cycles Nov. 2013 and Jan, Feb, and March 2014

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    Ok didn't think it would be next cycle duh...:)...the family dr did say to let him know we tried this month..if successful sure hopes it's sticky..you women here have helped me so much!
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    Truthfully, I wouldn't take anything this cycle if you are doing CD3 b/w.  You want to start with a clean slate.  Good luck and that's an exciting step!!
    ~Married 11/08~
    ~TTC since 01/09~
    ~SA & B/W - 06/09 - Normal~
    ~Encouraged by OB to "just keep trying" 06/09 - 06/10 (oh, the wasted time)~
    ~HSG - 08/10 - Clear/Normal~
    ~Lapo - 01/11 - Normal~
    ~Clomid 50mg, Trigger shot, Prometrium - 01/11, 02/11, 03/11~
    ~BFN - 02/11~
    ~IUI #1 03/15/11~
    BFP 3/28/2011
    Diagnosed with GD at 28 weeks. Controlled through diet and exercise. No insulin.
    Diagnosed with Cholestasis of pregnancy @ 36 weeks.
    Delivered via C-section @ 36 weeks on 11/9/11.

    TTC#2 for a few months naturally (ha!)
    ~IUI#1, Clomid, Trigger,  10/13 - BFN
    ~IUI#2, Femera, Ovidrel, 11/13




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    Yeah excited I'm on cd 22 now so , family dr said to let him know I didn't know I was seeing him and started progesterone and ttc this month...if it worked , she said he might be able to figure out sticking problem...
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    I would stay on your progesterone. Obviously tell the doctor, but the first appt is usually a consultation to get to know your history. The doc may or may not do a transvaginal ultrasound and will likely give you a schedule for tests next cycle. You'll stop the prog when your period comes, but for now take it- it's purpose is to support an early pregnancy if you have one and you never know.

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    That's what I was thinking...and if I don't do everything I can at least on my own this cycle I would never forgive my self if something happened...thanks for response:)
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