Wine

Kellyfrancisco

Does anyone know if its ok to have a half glass of wine once or twice a week? I'm missing it like crazy!

jmknox

Spumantes would be something to try too

pb&jojo

You can't wait until later in pregnancy? If you are feeling this way in the 1st tri, it's going to be a looong pregnancy for you!

I never drank wine during mine, but if I did, I would have waited until the 3rd tri.

tbmadeamistake

I had a half glass the other night at 10 weeks.  I personally think it's fine in moderation.  Last pregnancy I didn't in first tri but only because it made my morning sickness worse.  This time that doesn't seem to be the case.  I think a small glass here or there and you'll be fine.  Enjoy!

wtfisup

I plan to have it occasionally after the first trimester. Though a sip wouldn't really do anything now. Still, I wouldn't have a glass until all the neuro development and brain work is over. 

Valie18

How big is your glass?

What does your doctor think?

I don't believe that an occasional half glass of wine would hurt my LO, however I've not had the balls to try it yet. I usually just sneak a sip or two from DH.

JenniCollins

For me alcohol is out, a friend of mine had two small glasses of wine during her pregnancy (weeks apart from each other, not on be night) and her daughter was born with fetal alcohol syndrome. The doctors don't know when it occurred, they said that sometimes when you drink the baby can get FAS. It is not something I am willing to risk.

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mtrhomegirl

Alcohol is out for me too....it is only 9 months and i think i can survive without it....does it suck of course but i will do anything to have a healthy baby and pregnancy.  But everyone is entitled to their own decisions.

laleighmoore

I am waiting until after 1st Tri but lately I have started to explore new beers (always been a Miller Lite drinker). I told my husband last night that although I don't want to really have a drink while I am pregnant I do think I will take the time out to TRY new beers so I will know what I might like once I can drink again. We have a few places around with TONS of local brews; after the 1st Tri I think I will order a shot glass of a different kind each time. A shot glass of beer 1-2x/month from 2nd tri on seems perfectly reasonable to me but tell that to hubby who visibly winced when I said that (while the SOB was sitting there drinking his 3rd glass of wine! lol)

JenniCollins

Bliss+Berry said:

For me alcohol is out, a friend of mine had two small glasses of wine during her pregnancy (weeks apart from each other, not on be night) and her daughter was born with fetal alcohol syndrome. The doctors don't know when it occurred, they said that sometimes when you drink the baby can get FAS. It is not something I am willing to risk.

I'm willing to bet that your friend is lying and drank significantly more than what she's telling you.

It would make me feel better if that was the case, but no. She lived with me at the time and unless she was binge drinking at 2 in the morning and showing no effects from it the next day she only had two small glasses at special occasion dinners. I'm not saying this will happen to everybody, the doctors said that someone could have one glass and it effects the baby and someone else could drink every night and be fine. I'm just not willing to take a chance.

Luna C

From everything I've read and heard from doctors, a glass now and then after the first trimester should be fine. The problem is that there's no hard and fast line as in, "One glass a week is definitely safe."

Basically, a glass a week is probably safe for most people. But there's no way to know if you're one of the people for whom that would be too much and cause problems. And the greatest risk is in the first tri. (Although keep in mind, many women drank a lot before they knew they were pregnant and go on to have perfectly healthy babies.)

Personally, I cut out all alcohol at this point just because there is no nutritional benefit and huge potential downside. However, I don't rule out having a glass of wine at one dinner in my ninth month if I really feel like it. I feel like that would be pretty safe.

Luna C

JenniCollins said:

Bliss+Berry said:

For me alcohol is out, a friend of mine had two small glasses of wine during her pregnancy (weeks apart from each other, not on be night) and her daughter was born with fetal alcohol syndrome. The doctors don't know when it occurred, they said that sometimes when you drink the baby can get FAS. It is not something I am willing to risk.

I'm willing to bet that your friend is lying and drank significantly more than what she's telling you.

It would make me feel better if that was the case, but no. She lived with me at the time and unless she was binge drinking at 2 in the morning and showing no effects from it the next day she only had two small glasses at special occasion dinners. I'm not saying this will happen to everybody, the doctors said that someone could have one glass and it effects the baby and someone else could drink every night and be fine. I'm just not willing to take a chance.

It may be true your friend only had two drinks and had a baby with FAS, but it would be exceedingly rare.

My pregnancy was a (welcome) surprise, and in that first month I was on my anniversary vacation, had two big social events and then a business trip with several fancy receptions. So I was drinking WAY more than usual for me. (2-3 glasses a night, several nights a week) and because I was traveling, I managed to forget my prenatals for most of that month as well.

I told my OB in terror once I found out and she totally shrugged it off -- as did the nurse and the other doctor, and the genetics counselor.

If I was drinking that much and they have zero concern about it, I doubt many babies develop FAS after just two drinks in a month.

haltandsalute

Literally four days after finding out I was pg, I left for a girls' trip to Maine to eat and drink.  One of the girls on the trip happened to be my former OBGYN (I moved across the country, otherwise she'd still be it!).

She had no problem with me having a glass of wine PER NIGHT while we were there, and she is pretty conservative.  I didn't wind up even doing that, but one day we stopped to have cocktails and tapas at a charming inn at sunset, and when I was trying to decide if I wanted to indulge at that location or at dinner that night, she rolled her eyes and said I could do both.  

I hadn't had a drink since then (about 6 weeks ago), until this last weekend at a wedding.  I had about half a glass of wine with dinner on Friday, and about a glass of wine with dinner at the wedding.  

If there was truly a significant risk between an occasional small glass of wine and FAS, the vast majority of babies born in Europe would fall somewhere on the FAS spectrum.

For the record, FIL, BIL and DH's aunt (and my current doc) are all OBGYNs and do not buy into all the hysteria about what pregnant women can't do.  Everything in moderation and from places you know have safe food preparing practices.  

Luna C

rioandrooney said:

If there was truly a significant risk between an occasional small glass of wine and FAS, the vast majority of babies born in Europe would fall somewhere on the FAS spectrum.

THIS. Not to mention most babies born in the US prior to, say, 1950. Just try and tell a French or Italian woman she can't have a glass of wine with her dinner because she's pregnant. They'd laugh in your face.

Same with sushi hysteria. Japanese women are encouraged to eat it throughout pregnancy and I don't recall hearing about millions of miscarriages a year in Japan for the past several decades.

Americans are just totally paranoid about some of this stuff.

spinsoffresonance

Well I have an 11month old DD who is still breastfeeding. And now I'm pregnant. I seriously think I've had less than 10 drinks in the last 2 years. A glass of wine sounds really nice but I'm not willing to take the risk, I'll just wait another 7 months, sigh

Crasian

I think it's probably fine (I have friends that would have a beer now and then, but in their 3rd trimester...not sure about earlier ones). For me personally, I'm not comfortable with it and will try to abstain throughout my pregnancy.  It's just not worth the risk, however small the risk may be.   I did enjoy my booze prior to getting (finding out) I was pregnant and liked my wine occasionally during the week and ALWAYS during the weekend!  I actually don't miss it though.

wtfisup

Luna C said:

Same with sushi hysteria. Japanese women are encouraged to eat it throughout pregnancy and I don't recall hearing about millions of miscarriages a year in Japan for the past several decades.

Americans are just totally paranoid about some of this stuff.

To be fair, the issue has never been sushi -- it's sushi quality in the US. Japanese folks? Access to lots of high grade, fresh fish. And that's true in some places in the US. But the US does have higher rates of issues with unsafe sushi because of it being lower grade, transported, etc. 

wtfisup

Related story that proves nothing: one of my friends is a post-natal nurse and worked with a woman who had had quite a few unplanned pregnancies. When admitted, she told the nurses how she'd drank ample vodka every day trying to get rid of that one (apparently she'd used drugs and alcohol to miscarry in the past, according to her?). Anyway, so they were all pretty concerned about the birth situation, but the baby was totally healthy. 

Luna C

@wtfisup: I would love to see a citation for that because my research has turned up nothing along those lines.

While it's probably a bad idea to eat sushi from a gas station, that's true for non-preggos as well as preggos. Aside from obviously problematic locations like that, sushi-grade fish is sushi-grade fish. There isn't anything magical about fish sold in Japan that makes it safer.

And when you look at the list of foods that actually cause various food poisonings, sushi is not even close to the most problematic. What will make you sick if not prepared right: bean sprouts and leafy greens. But no one puts them on the banned list.

wtfisup

Luna C said:

@wtfisup: I would love to see a citation for that because my research has turned up nothing along those lines.

While it's probably a bad idea to eat sushi from a gas station, that's true for non-preggos as well as preggos. Aside from obviously problematic locations like that, sushi-grade fish is sushi-grade fish. There isn't anything magical about fish sold in Japan that makes it safer.

And when you look at the list of foods that actually cause various food poisonings, sushi is not even close to the most problematic. What will make you sick if not prepared right: bean sprouts and leafy greens. But no one puts them on the banned list.

It's not about the fish; it's about the freshness. I.e. here, most sushi comes from grocery stores and gas stations. It's raw. So the caution is just, "If that's risky food for folks, don't eat it while you're pregnant." And that's the general logic. Going to a nice sushi restaurant is fine. Like you say, it's not about pregnancy, it's in general. It's just that it's riskier for a pregnant woman to get ill than others. And, yes, same with sprouts. 

dp1320

When I was getting my NT scan yesterday they had one of those "informational tvs" in the waiting room... they had a thing about alcohol and it said the problem w/ alcohol during pregnancy is that there is no scientific evidence on how much/how little will affect the baby...so the best bet is to stay away - but it's whatever you feel comfortable with!

wolson1988

I heard that a little bit every now and then is okay but I personally would never do it.  Nothing is worth the risk of the health of my child.

sdaniels88

I had a half glass of red wine last weekend as I was in a terrible mood. Afterwards I felt bad for doing it so I probably won't do it again. I see nothing wrong with a small amount a couple times a month, I just personally won't do it.

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Luna C

wtfisup said:

It's not about the fish; it's about the freshness. I.e. here, most sushi comes from grocery stores and gas stations.. 

That's just nonsense. Flat out nonsense.

First of all, most sushi is not from gas stations -- I doubt ANY comes from gas stations. That was a silly example I used to illustrate the sushi hysteria.

Secondly, most grocery store sushi is usually cooked items (california rolls, eel, tempura fried, etc.).

Thirdly, ALL sushi-grade fish sold in the US is deep flash frozen for a considerable amount of time before serving. You're more likely to encounter freezer burn than spoilage in US sushi.

Fourth, since you couldn't provide a citation for your claim, I'm guessing you pulled it right out of thin air.

The only food poisioning outbreak I ever heard of related to sushi was a mass-produced spicy tuna mix. And the issue there was not freshness, it was the same bone-scraping flesh harvesting technique that causes problems with ground beef.

Sushi is perfectly safe.

wtfisup

Luna C said:

wtfisup said:

It's not about the fish; it's about the freshness. I.e. here, most sushi comes from grocery stores and gas stations.. 

That's just nonsense. Flat out nonsense.

First of all, most sushi is not from gas stations -- I doubt ANY comes from gas stations. That was a silly example I used to illustrate the sushi hysteria.

Secondly, most grocery store sushi is usually cooked items (california rolls, eel, tempura fried, etc.).

Thirdly, ALL sushi-grade fish sold in the US is deep flash frozen for a considerable amount of time before serving. You're more likely to encounter freezer burn than spoilage in US sushi.

Fourth, since you couldn't provide a citation for your claim, I'm guessing you pulled it right out of thin air.

The only food poisioning outbreak I ever heard of related to sushi was a mass-produced spicy tuna mix. And the issue there was not freshness, it was the same bone-scraping flesh harvesting technique that causes problems with ground beef.

Sushi is perfectly safe.

Okay, so I guess you're just totally ignoring the part where I said "HERE", as in most sushi HERE, where I am, which is in landlocked midwest. Not all of the US. 

No citation because I'm not looking this up. I don't care that much. My source is a conversation I had with two OBs who were saying that sushi-grade stuff in restaurants is high quality, stuff in other places isn't. Not just for bacteria, but b/c of where it's sourced and other contents. 

Look, it's okay to eat whatever you want. I don't care. Eat sushi off the anus of an alley cat using syphilis chopsticks if you want. 

And most importantly, I was agreeing with you that sushi-grade sushi is totes safe, because everyone has confirmed that. 

Internet fighting -- not worth anyone's time, right?

haltandsalute

Bliss+Berry said:

There is a lot of sanctimony up in here, yo.

Indeed...

shellbell9482

Funny - I JUST did research on this the other day. Here's why it's so tricky:

NO ONE wants to test whether alcohol (in any amount) is good/bad for baby during pregnancy because - that's right - you're testing on an unborn child! However, I have found that one drink a week during the first trimester is okay. If I need to remind you what a single drink is, we need to talk in private. Then, most research SUGGESTS it is okay to drink moderately during the second and third trimesters. Moderately is maybe one drink a night. I would reach for the red wine before anything else because my OB told me to with my second to help strengthen his heart. He's healthy as a horse now.

It's all up to you - how guilty are you willing to feel if something goes wrong with your pregnancy/child? To me, a few sips of my husband's drink every now and then is not enough for me to worry. That's a call you, as a mother, has to make!

PrimRoseMama

I think if you feel comfortable then drink your wine. Personally, the smell of alcohol made me so nauseated & pukey during all of my pregnancies. I couldn't even sit at the same table or cook with it. So, if you can tolerate it & educate yourself about the risks then go for it.

For the record, I ate all the sushies, drank all the coffees & such. I probably would have had wine too if it didn't make me feel like death.

argonne

JenniCollins said:

For me alcohol is out, a friend of mine had two small glasses of wine during her pregnancy (weeks apart from each other, not on be night) and her daughter was born with fetal alcohol syndrome. The doctors don't know when it occurred, they said that sometimes when you drink the baby can get FAS. It is not something I am willing to risk.

Your friend is a lying liar who lies.

Luna C

 

wtfisup said:

Look, it's okay to eat whatever you want. I don't care. Eat sushi off the anus of an alley cat using syphilis chopsticks if you want. 

 

Well that got classless pretty quickly. You could have just admited that you did indeed pull your facts out of thin air.

tbmadeamistake

Syphilis chopsticks made me laugh out loud.  For goodness' sake ladies, do you research, make a call that's comfortable for you, move on.  Simple as that. 

PrimRoseMama

Darbie914 said:

Just wanted to jump back in here and say @PrimRoseMama, your LOs are so adorable!!!

Thank you!
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kd&cd

My dr told me he would prefer if I didn't but had absolutely no fears to any pregnant person (unless there are issues) having a glass of wine every now and then. He said there are reasons why experts recommend drinking a glass of wine a day, which carry over to a pregnant person as well. However it must be in moderation. Since becoming pregnant I have had 2 half glasses of red wine. I'm a wine-o so this is a severe cut back lol did I feel guilty about it the next day, YUP, but the way I look at it is if the dr says it's ok then it's ok!

Kfran84

I wouldn't touch it until almost 3rd tri. I have had a few glasses but only half fill them, so like a 4 oz pour, and usually don't even finish that.

You just have to decide what your comfort level is and consult your OB for his or her guidance.

rowanthefrog

You'll get a wide variety of answers on this one, so I'll give you my own personal opinion. With each of my pregnancies I have had a small glass of wine here and there after the 1st trimester. Maybe once a week or so and a small one, like 4 oz. 

Personally I like to wait until after the 1st tri...I figure that is when you are growing organs and the smallest thing COULD have a huge effect, but really who knows.

FWIW, my two boys are healthy, happy, smart and just fine, so those occasional glasses of wine did not hurt them.

If you are comfortable with it, then have a small glass here and there.

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momthatlifts

I think it's just fine. I'm not a big drinker so I can manage 9 months without, but if I did I would wait until 2nd tri. But that's just me

dragonfly711

I dont drink so I cant help you but I would not if I did.  I gave up soda (caffeine) I dont want to take any chances.  I already had one MC so I am super paranoid.  I figure I can give something up for 9 months or so. I dont want to take any chances.  I feel better this way.  I do drink gingerale once in awhile for nausea however but no caffeine in that.

I would check with your Dr to see what they say.

artichoken

I have one small glass a week.sometimes 2 in the third trimester

yvanehtnioj

Luna C said:

 

wtfisup said:

Look, it's okay to eat whatever you want. I don't care. Eat sushi off the anus of an alley cat using syphilis chopsticks if you want. 

 

Well that got classless pretty quickly. You could have just admited that you did indeed pull your facts out of thin air.


"Classless?" What are you, a Real Housewife?