Blended Families

Feeling scared and need advice please :(

I will try to make this short and to the point. 
For the past 11 months I have been pretty much a single parent, my daughters father wasn't in her life and I was living at home with my mom. Everything that my daughters father should've been there for (Dr's appts, shots, family vacations, etc) my mom was there for us instead of him so we have grew very close to her. I have been close to her my whole life and she is also like a best friend to me, I love her so much for being a great mother to me and also a wonderful Meme to my daughter. My baby girl loves her Meme so much since we have lived in the house with her since she was born, that's all she knows and when my daughter was up every hour to breast feed she also helped me through those rough times. There were alot of reasons why my daughters father and I couldn't work our relationship out at the time and even though he was in his mid 20s I don't think he was completely ready for a child. He has came around now and is actually great around our daughter but it is SO SO hard for me to forget the past for some reason. I love him so much, I constantly thought about him when we weren't together and tried seeing other people but I couldn't ever get him out of my head or why he couldn't just act like a decent father then. In the time that we were separated he purchased his own house and has now made mention of us living with him. This has brought up so many concerns with me, my daughter doesn't adapt very well to new places since my moms house is all she knows. I am very scared even thinking about it for the sake of leaving my mom when she is my sense of security and I know it would be very different not seeing her every day for both Aubree and I. I know everyone has to leave at some point but I don't wanna do anything to hard my daughter, that's the last thing I want to do. I told him that he needed to give me time to think about this and learn to trust him fully again before we made that big of a commitment. I have just recently weaned my daughter, she was exclusively breastfed for a year and I believe that has my hormones somewhat messed up too.  I feel so hesitant and sad about the whole situation because I would love for us to live together as a family, I know that my daughter deserves that but the thought of it not working out and my daughter having to go there and leave me for visitation is always in the back of my mind. (She has never been away from me for more than a few hours) I have a bond with her that i'd never EVER want to do anything to harm and I would really appreciate any insight or opinions on what may be best to do in this situation. Thank you in advance and please if you don't have anything helpful or nice to say just don't reply because I am already feeling so down about this. 
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Re: Feeling scared and need advice please :(

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  • CurlyQ284CurlyQ284 member
    edited October 2013
    I agree. Why don't you stay put and tell him you can revisit the issue in a year if things are still progressing well. Your DD can get to know her father, get comfortable with the house and then it won't be as big of an issue when you revisit the issue.

    I also want to add that you mentioned that change is hard on your daughter. I think you would be surprised at how resiliant kids are. It sounds more like youre the one having a tough time with the thought of change. You also sound like you may have some anxiety. If you do what i suggested, thats a good way to ease into the change slowly which may be easier for you to handle.
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  • I agree with both PP's, especially Mary's statement. First would be to figure out what role he wants you to play. If it's something more than roommate or mother of his child; take some time to work on your relationship before moving in.
  • I agree that kids are much more resilient than we think they are, especially at your daughter's age (is she about 1?) HOWEVER, the much huger red flag is considering moving in with your bd without any sign of long term committment. You said he has come around with your daughter. What about with you? Are you dating? Or is he just being a dad and you happen to be there? It would be a BIG MISTAKE to move in just for your daughter to have an 'intact' family. And it would be horrible longer term for your daughter if you did move in, she gets more attached to daddy, and then in 2 years or so it does not work out. I know that I might be in the minority here, but I believe that when kids are involved, you should not be living with someone unless you are engaged and the wedding is imminent. There are too many risks to your kids if you move in with someone without a commitment. Talk to your bd openly about this and about your fears... if you have something that could last, you should be able to have that conversation. If not, then your relationship is not there yet, and it's reinforcement for why you should wait to move in. You are feeling scared for a very good reason... if you make the wrong decision you could be setting your daughter up for some heartbreak. Just listen to your gut and wait. Enjoy dating your bd again, let him have visitation. Hopefully it will lead to more, if not you are starting to form a co-parenting relationship. Sorry so long, ipad won't let me do paragraphs.
  • Just to add one more thing... you said your dd 'deserves' an 'intact' family. Many many many children do wonderfully and thrive with a single mom and an involved dad who can effectively co-parent. Don't let your guilt about not having an 'intact' family push you into doing something you know is not right. A child who has a single mom and an involved dad will do much better than a kid in an 'intact' family where the parents are miserable because they only stay together for the kids. Now, there is a chance that you and your bd could work out. However you just don't know that yet. Just wait.
  • Does BD want you to move in as roommates? Heck no, not ever.

    Does BD want you to move in as his GF? Not yet. Give it 6 months (I'd say a year but we all know that is way easier said than done.) and reevaluate things at that point. Is your relationship really progressing? Or is your relationship improving but not quite where you want it? Then give it another 3-6 months.

    You & BD need to sit down and figure out what one another's intentions are. Make sure you guys are in the same page.

    For now, set up visitation for DD with BD. Whether you two end up happily married or bitterly a apart, BD WILL have time with DD - he IS her father, and you won't be able to do anything about that. Start slow and build up, so that all parties involved are comfortable. Decide together what's reasonable. Have a few visits where you're there, and then leave them alone to bond.
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  • ambrvanambrvan member
    edited October 2013
    I echo PPers. What your daughter deserves is to see her parents happy. And neither you or BD will be happy if you jump into this. Nothing says you can't just be dating and living separately even though you have a child together.

    A steady visitation schedule needs to be established (COed) for your daughter's sake and also to protect both yours and BD's rights, regardless of how your relationship eventually works out.

    I'm reading that your daughter is about a year old, right? That is an age where she will have no problem making adjustments to new situations IF YOU LET HER. I get the feeling that her "not adjusting to new environments easily" is more on you than her. And I don't mean that ugly. I just mean that at her age, kids adjust fine if asked the space to do so. In fact, now is the time to be exposing her to new and different situations to prepare her to be a well rounded, outgoing, independent child.

    You seem to be our have become very dependent on your mom and your DD. You cannot raise your daughter to be strong and independent if you are not so. Unless the BD is a safety concern (and you have already said he had become a good father or wants to be), then BD and DD deserve a relationship independent of you. I know that must hurt you to think of it. But it's true. Even "intact" families need independent relationships between members in addition to the family dynamic as a whole. And no one ever said "intact" was necessarily better or more stable. We all know people who have gone down dark paths after being raised in an "intact" family.

    Children are much happier and better balanced when their parents can get along or at least co-parent. And sometimes when a child is created by two people who were not meant to be together or do not want to be together, parenting apart is the best way to go.

    When children are involved, never live together without lifelong commitment in both partners' actions, heads, and hearts. Never be together just for the child. They will be the ones who end up being most miserable and damaged. And never jump into a relationship with anyone now that you have a child without first being comfortable with your own independence. If you cannot take care of yourself and DD and be comfortable alone, then you are not ready for a relationship. Period.

    That doesn't mean that you can't live with your mom and accept her help in your way to where you need to be. But you should be working on you and getting your heart and mind where they need to be too be a good, healthy, stable role model and mother to DD.

    And let DD have a relationship with her BD unimpeded by you. He can never learn to be a true father and really embrace the role should be taking on if you are hovering. Let him start having a regular schedule of overnights and weekend visits without you. Maybe one 24hr period each weekend with one evening visit each week for the first month to get them acquainted and settled and then every other weekend or whatever the two of you actually want to be COed as visitation from the second month on out. Get it in writing and get it COed asap.


    ETA: Auto correct on my phone is stupid and messes up my grammar.

    Also, I know your emotions probably are all over the place. I BFed, also. I was forced to so at 6wks because of my DS's health, and it about killed me. I was sort depressed. Having to stop BFing was very hard. The bond you build is incredibly strong. And when you feel like a single parent (even if you aren't) it's very easy to rely on baby as much for your own support as they do for you.
  • Just because he is your childs father doesn't mean you need to jump into moving in his house.

    He already proved once that he wasn't  husband/father material.  Now he needs to prove that he IS.  That takes time.  Just because he has a house doesn't mean squat. Is he paying child support? Maybe he w

    ants to get out of that so his solution is to have you move in.

    I didn't read anything about him missing YOU, loving YOU, etc.

     

    If he truly loves you and wants to be with you ( keep the child out of this part) then let him date you and show you he is serious. 

  • One more thing for you to think about.  I'm a firm believer because I learned the hard way with my XH:  When someone shows who they are and what kind of person they are - BELIEVE THEM.  People don't just magically change because they say they love you.  They are who they are and it would take a lot longer than a year or two for them to really significantly change.  

    There a plenty of guys out there that will love you and treat you and your child right for you to settle for a guy who's already proven to you he can not be counted on.  Think long and hard about this one.   

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  • proudmommy15proudmommy15 member
    edited November 2013
    Lol!! Move in as roommates. Woah hun, maybe I didn't make that clear enough in my original post. We are dating again and have been for awhile. As far as playing house with someone I would never do that and involve my child!! Hence the reason why I am living with my MOTHER not just shacking up with any man! Thank you all for your kind posts
  • proudmommy15proudmommy15 member
    edited November 2013
  • @ Ambrvan-everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I completely respect yours but as a mother/woman from a divorced household I don't agree with you on a lot of what you said!! My daughter having a relationship with her father apart from me is GREAT honey. She needs to have what I didn't and that was a decent relationship with my father no matter how bad my mom wanted him to be a decent father. He was a great person all around even completed doctorate school, but couldn't seem to properly be a father so of course I would want my daughter to have that! Who in their right mind wouldn't! I also believe it IS BEST for a child to have their family INTACT and every party involved act right as a whole so EVERYONE in that relationship can be happy, not just the child but the parents involved as well :)
  • Lol!! Move in as roommates. Woah hun, maybe I didn't make that clear enough in my original post. We are dating again and have been for awhile. As far as playing house with someone I would never do that and involve my child!! Hence the reason why I am living with my MOTHER not just shacking up with any man! Thank you all for your kind posts

    At no point did you even mention that you two were back together. Didn't even allude to it. I can't help but think that's a new development since your OP weeks ago.
  • I also believe it IS BEST for a child to have their family INTACT and every party involved act right as a whole so EVERYONE in that relationship can be happy, not just the child but the parents involved as well :)

    So your point in posting at all on a blended family board was for what reason because you pretty much changed your entire story from your OP. I guarantee that most here would not agree with your statement above. Not all relationships are healthy even if a child is involved. It's obvious from your lack of response after the initial post and then coming back way later to respond the way you did that something has changed like Mary said above.
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  • twister22twister22 member
    edited November 2013
    I believe it is best for a child to grow up in an intact family, as long as the parents are committed to making their relationship work and putting for genuine effort. Sadly 50% of marriages end in divorce, and most on this board know that from experience. 

    BD and I were never married, but I can promise you that DS is MUCH better off because BD and I aren't together. DS is provided with a stable life, a loving family, and his needs and even many wants are met. I would not be able to say the same thing if BD and I had stayed together. 

    Do I wish that DS wasn't part of a BF? You betcha. I wish that DS had BP's that were happily married in a thriving relationship, but that's just not the case, and never would have been with BD.

    I think you're being overly defensive. You're OP made it sound like you guys weren't together, so obviously we're going to respond the way we did. Clearly you won't be sticking around because you're not currently part of a BF. But if you and BD ever split up, know that this board is a good place for HONEST and CONSTRUCTIVE, and yes, sometimes hard to hear, advice.
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  • Ouch. I don't think it would be best for my son to have my dad and myself back together. We are much better co-parents than spouses. I don't think my step-son would have a better life with his dad and mom back together either. That's two kids I personally know whose lives are actually better having their parents living apart than together and fighting non-stop. I highly doubt they're both exceptions. If everyone involved was capable of acting "right," I don't think there would have been a split in the first place. If there has been one painful lesson I've learned, if someone treats you like crap, they'll just keep doing it. Sure they can change, but it won't be for you.
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  • twister22 said:

    I believe it is best for a child to grow up in an intact family, as long as the parents are committed to making their relationship work and putting for genuine effort. Sadly 50% of marriages end in divorce, and most on this board know that from experience. 


    BD and I were never married, but I can promise you that DS is MUCH better off because BD and I aren't together. DS is provided with a stable life, a loving family, and his needs and even many wants are met. I would not be able to say the same thing if BD and I had stayed together. 

    Do I wish that DS wasn't part of a BF? You betcha. I wish that DS had BP's that were happily married in a thriving relationship, but that's just not the case, and never would have been with BD.

    I think you're being overly defensive. You're OP made it sound like you guys weren't together, so obviously we're going to respond the way we did. Clearly you won't be sticking around because you're not currently part of a BF. But if you and BD ever split up, know that this board is a good place for HONEST and CONSTRUCTIVE, and yes, sometimes hard to hear, advice.
    I think this is more what I meant. I absolutely think that way too many people give up and take the easy way way out when things could have been worked out. However, there are instances when both parties don't want to work it out, even if they say they do, and in those situations, it is the child that suffers. I do think that if possible, "intact" is the way to go, and I think it is possible much more often than people think. I think people today give up way to quickly because we have become a society of immediate gratification.

    But I still highly suggest that you work the two of you out before rushing into moving in together again. If you two are dating again, however recent or long term this development is, then work on that. One thing I think almost every single one of the board members here would say about their BF beginnings is that they wish they would have taken things slower, even if their families are doing well.

    I think this should apply even in your situation to give your daughter the best possible chance at having an intact family. When you move to fast, you create some serious obstacles for yourselves. I hope you can see the obvious logic there since having a baby together had already complicated things for the two of you. PLEASE don't get defensive at that. Having a child can change a lot things in either direction. I am not judging you or trying to talk down to you. I am speaking to you from experience.

    I was very very young when I jumped into a BF and conceived my son shortly after. I have a wonderful DH and family and do not regret a thing, but it doesn't mean that the rush did not create some major difficulties for us. I have stuck through a lot of situations that other people would baled on a long time ago, a lot of times when people in this board told me I should walk. My family, my marriage is of the highest importance to me. I do understand what you want.

    Just don't fool yourself and confuse being in love with the ideal of family with being in love with BF and part of a rewarding partnership that will make a good environment to raise your DD in together.

    Also in response to Ghostice's comment about someone being able to change our not: You can't make anyone change. And no one will change for you. If they want to, they will change for themselves. Sometimes you just get blessed to have a partner that wants to change the way you have been wanting them to. Most of making a relationship work, though, is not about change. It's about figuring out what you can and can't accept and deciding how to accept it. Can you about BF the way he is now, in every aspect, and be perfectly happy? You're not going to know that answer right of the top of your head. You might be inclined to automatically say yes because that is what you want. But if you give dating and growing together some time and then your answer is yes, go ahead and get married. If you say, "Woah, I'm not talking about getting married," then why talk about moving in? To a child, their parents under the same roof raising them and carrying for them, a break up or a divorce would be just as devastating.

    My point is not that you need to be married to live together. My point is that if you can't marry him, don't live with him. As a single adult, that could have been an option, with a child, it shouldn't be.
  • ambrvan said:
    I believe it is best for a child to grow up in an intact family, as long as the parents are committed to making their relationship work and putting for genuine effort. Sadly 50% of marriages end in divorce, and most on this board know that from experience. 

    BD and I were never married, but I can promise you that DS is MUCH better off because BD and I aren't together. DS is provided with a stable life, a loving family, and his needs and even many wants are met. I would not be able to say the same thing if BD and I had stayed together. 

    Do I wish that DS wasn't part of a BF? You betcha. I wish that DS had BP's that were happily married in a thriving relationship, but that's just not the case, and never would have been with BD.

    I think you're being overly defensive. You're OP made it sound like you guys weren't together, so obviously we're going to respond the way we did. Clearly you won't be sticking around because you're not currently part of a BF. But if you and BD ever split up, know that this board is a good place for HONEST and CONSTRUCTIVE, and yes, sometimes hard to hear, advice.
    I think this is more what I meant. I absolutely think that way too many people give up and take the easy way way out when things could have been worked out. However, there are instances when both parties don't want to work it out, even if they say they do, and in those situations, it is the child that suffers. I do think that if possible, "intact" is the way to go, and I think it is possible much more often than people think. I think people today give up way to quickly because we have become a society of immediate gratification. But I still highly suggest that you work the two of you out before rushing into moving in together again. If you two are dating again, however recent or long term this development is, then work on that. One thing I think almost every single one of the board members here would say about their BF beginnings is that they wish they would have taken things slower, even if their families are doing well. I think this should apply even in your situation to give your daughter the best possible chance at having an intact family. When you move to fast, you create some serious obstacles for yourselves. I hope you can see the obvious logic there since having a baby together had already complicated things for the two of you. PLEASE don't get defensive at that. Having a child can change a lot things in either direction. I am not judging you or trying to talk down to you. I am speaking to you from experience. I was very very young when I jumped into a BF and conceived my son shortly after. I have a wonderful DH and family and do not regret a thing, but it doesn't mean that the rush did not create some major difficulties for us. I have stuck through a lot of situations that other people would baled on a long time ago, a lot of times when people in this board told me I should walk. My family, my marriage is of the highest importance to me. I do understand what you want. Just don't fool yourself and confuse being in love with the ideal of family with being in love with BF and part of a rewarding partnership that will make a good environment to raise your DD in together. Also in response to Ghostice's comment about someone being able to change our not: You can't make anyone change. And no one will change for you. If they want to, they will change for themselves. Sometimes you just get blessed to have a partner that wants to change the way you have been wanting them to. Most of making a relationship work, though, is not about change. It's about figuring out what you can and can't accept and deciding how to accept it. Can you about BF the way he is now, in every aspect, and be perfectly happy? You're not going to know that answer right of the top of your head. You might be inclined to automatically say yes because that is what you want. But if you give dating and growing together some time and then your answer is yes, go ahead and get married. If you say, "Woah, I'm not talking about getting married," then why talk about moving in? To a child, their parents under the same roof raising them and carrying for them, a break up or a divorce would be just as devastating. My point is not that you need to be married to live together. My point is that if you can't marry him, don't live with him. As a single adult, that could have been an option, with a child, it shouldn't be.
    AMEN to the bold. 
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  • Wow op, defensive much? Everyone pp has said it perfectly. I just hope for your child you can take a deep breath and a step back and not rush into something here. There is no rush, so don't create one.
  • Sounds like there is no security with him. I would stay put. If you guys want to live together, you can do so AFTER you've worked on re-building your broken relationship.
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