Secondary IF

Im getting discouraged!

edited October 2013 in Secondary IF

Someone try to help me understand WTF is going on, Im not into all those apps and websites that track your cycles for you... I have my little notebook that i faithfully write down everything in. Bare with me here.

I am on CD 21 and still have not O-ed. I test with OPKS twice a day... Once at 12pm and again at 8pm, Everyday. I check my CM at the same time of OPKS. I am using Clearblue digital ovulation test, it shows Low fertility, High fertility and Peak fertility. I have been in LOW fertility since CD 7!!!!! :'( According to basically EVERYTHING, Today should have been my "Peak" day... I haven't even had EWCM, it has fluctuated between a dry creamy sticky to a wet creamy, and then back... but no EWCM. (Sorry for the TMI). For the past 3 months I have had an average of 36 day cycles.

Im so aggravated with my body right now, WTH is going on. We were not "trying" last month, due to all the testing, Which came back normal... But i did notice i didn't have EWCM last cycle either... Pre MC this was never an issue.

So if this continues, and i do not start ovulating, what are the treatments for that?? I haven't gotten that far into our fertility testing, and because i didn't know it was an issue, up until my last cycle and current cycle... i have never asked my doctor.

Thanks in advance,  & if i am being OVER dramatic and you see nothing wrong, please tell me! I just don't understand Lol.

 

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Re: Im getting discouraged!

  • This is the first month this has happened right? It sounds like you might just be under more stress than usual and it's delaying your O a bit. Don't freak out. You're just on CD21 now, and it's very likely you can get a + in the new couple days. 



    I would just try to relax, drink a ton of water (that should help a lot with CM) and give a couple more days. 



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  • This is the first month this has happened right? It sounds like you might just be under more stress than usual and it's delaying your O a bit. Don't freak out. You're just on CD21 now, and it's very likely you can get a + in the new couple days. 



    I would just try to relax, drink a ton of water (that should help a lot with CM) and give a couple more days. 



    8-X :bz :ar! :-t :O) ~:> ;)) :bz

    Well, Its the first month confirmed of no O (yet-being hopefull, lol) But second month of no CM... Thank you for the tips, i'll go pour me a glass of "calm the hell down" and a side of water now!! Lol, Wheeww! Thanks girl!! :-)
  • I agree with @MrsCastillo. Stress can absolutely affect your ovulation, so I wouldn't worry about it being anything else. You'll probably get a positive OPK very soon.
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  • After my last M/C I also stopped getting EWCM so I started taking Evening Primrose Oil and it really has helped. You take one pill (3x) with each meal every day until confirmed O.  Also, you should consider temping as OPKs do not actually "confirm" O...your LH can surge and give you a +OPK and then you could end up not Oing.  So I would recommend starting to temp for a more accuracy.


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  • After my last M/C I also stopped getting EWCM so I started taking Evening Primrose Oil and it really has helped. You take one pill (3x) with each meal every day until confirmed O.  Also, you should consider temping as OPKs do not actually "confirm" O...your LH can surge and give you a +OPK and then you could end up not Oing.  So I would recommend starting to temp for a more accuracy.

    Awesome, I'll look into that!! :-)  
  • I agree with the other ladies - stress can play a huge factor IMO. Pour yourself that glass of calm-the-hell-down and drink it with a smile! :) Also, although I definitely agree with @amores0121 that temping is the only sure way of knowing you O (unless you're being monitored), for me it just increased the stress/obsessing so I didn't think it was worth it. 

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    BFFP Saw 1 beautiful heartbeat at 6w6d, follow up u/s at 9w showed mmc. Eff this.
    NTNP 5/2014-9/2014, OPKs and TI 10/2014 - 1/2015. 
    RPL testing all normal, AFC, AMH, and FSH all normal. 
    IVF 1.2 1/22/2014 natural cycle start, AFC 28, 300 gonal f/150menopur. 
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  • Jen071407 said:
    I agree with the other ladies - stress can play a huge factor IMO. Pour yourself that glass of calm-the-hell-down and drink it with a smile! :) Also, although I definitely agree with @amores0121 that temping is the only sure way of knowing you O (unless you're being monitored), for me it just increased the stress/obsessing so I didn't think it was worth it. 
    Lol, Same for me... Temping was not my thing, I gave up on that litte tool. I've always been able to determine if i was gearing up to O by my CM & OPKS... Plus i could always feel it..mittelschmerz, i believe its called. With this sudden change in my body, i just may have to go back to temping... Don't know how accurate it will be with all these night sweats, anxiety, and hot flashes though. We'll see, Im sure i'll ask to be monitored if this continues. My calm the hell glass of water was wonderful :-) I think i'll have seconds !! hehe ;P  
  • gmc222gmc222 member
    edited October 2013

    Without medicated cycles I always O'd late, so like you I would get discouraged when the OPK's hadn't shown a smiley face. I don't really have any words of wisdom, but wanted to say I'm crossing my fingers you get O signs soon!

    ;)) (<-- is this a guy with his fingers crossed, or picking his nose, or something else completely?)

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  • edited October 2013
    gmc222 said:

    Without medicated cycles I always O'd late, so like you I would get discouraged when the OPK's hadn't shown a smiley face. I don't really have any words of wisdom, but wanted to say I'm crossing my fingers you get O signs soon!

    ;)) (<-- is this a guy with his fingers crossed, or picking his nose, or something else completely?)


    Thanks girl! ... And yes it sure is! He's so cute haha :)

    Edit: Now that i look at it again, i think he is giggling? Oh well, I'll go with fingers crossed!

  • I totally understand your frustration. Here lately I've been ovulating between cycle days 19 and 23 with a 37 day cycle. Last month I got MULTIPLE positive OPKs. I also, used to not temp. However, now I do and I'm a huge convert. It will really tell you a lot about your cycles and could help you better inform a doctor later - if you go that route. I use FertilityFriend.com and love it. I've also heard about "My Days" but, fertility friend is great.

    Unlike PP, EPO did not help my CM. However, increased water intake did. I also have read and tried taking Mucinex. The theory is that it thins ALL mucus in your body even CM. Also, you might actually have CM but, it might just be UP there. Go UP and check or have the hubs do it LOL.

    And yes, stress, illness, sleep deprivation, etc. can delay ovulation.

    I understand the frustration. We spend half the month waiting the O and the other half waiting to test. It sucks.


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    November 2013 - Benched, waiting for first post-loss AF.
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    Jan. 16 2014 Left tube removed and D&C
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