@Quidditchcapn1120, you around?

ASmallWonder

My little guy is 4 months but I SWEAR I can feel his upper left eye tooth popping through.  The online charts say that's usually a 16 month tooth (and I have zero tooth eruption memory from my first).  Is this impossible?  If it's not impossible, does it mean anything bad?  I know a friend of mine's daughter had an odd tooth eruption pattern and I remember her saying the dentist was worried she may actually not even have some of the teeth that were supposed to come out first.

MrsT0514

My kid is 9 months, but he already has both bottom fronts, both top fronts, and both left and right upper eye teeth that recently just cut through the gums. Its crazy how many teeth he's gotten within the last month.

My guess is every baby is different? IDK. I thought it was really early for DS to have all these teeth too.

I'm interested to see the reply from someone with dental knowledge, as I've been wondering about this too!

littlestjerry

I have a dentist question too! Is it normal for a filling to bleed and hurt like two weeks out? Please answer @elmoali's question first, since I'm butting in

ASmallWonder

Dude, that doesn't sound normal AT ALL.  My non medical opinion is that I'd have that shit looked at because I'd be worried about an infection.  I have shitty teeth and lots of fillings and I've never had that.

MrsT0514

I agree with @elmoali. That sounds horribly painful. @Little Jerry I'd get in to see your dentist bc tbat doesn't sound normal IMO either.

littlestjerry

I've always had really bad reactions to fillings...a lot of pain and sensitivity for like months afterward. But the bleeding is giving me pause. I guess I better call tomorrow!

MrsT0514

Little Jerry said:

I've always had really bad reactions to fillings...a lot of pain and sensitivity for like months afterward. But the bleeding is giving me pause. I guess I better call tomorrow!

Well I've had a pain and sensitivity for a while after fillings myself, but never bleeding. GL I hope its NBD!

quidditchcapn1120

elmoali said:

My little guy is 4 months but I SWEAR I can feel his upper left eye tooth popping through.  The online charts say that's usually a 16 month tooth (and I have zero tooth eruption memory from my first).  Is this impossible?  If it's not impossible, does it mean anything bad?  I know a friend of mine's daughter had an odd tooth eruption pattern and I remember her saying the dentist was worried she may actually not even have some of the teeth that were supposed to come out first.

This would be unusual but not something I would be worried about. Kids get teeth in weird patterns all the time. My goddaughter got her canines really early so I was worried she was missing her lateral incisors but then they popped out way late. Another possibility is that since the canines (eye teeth) are so big that you can feel them starting to get into place but they will erupt at the normal time. Also, DS's teeth are so far apart that when he was getting his central incisors I thought they were his laterals- instead they just came in normally with a big old gap between them.

Long story short- at 4 months old I wouldn't worry. Nothing a dentist could do right now even of he was missing some teeth so I would still take him in at the normal time (around 1 year old) unless it would just make you feel better to take him in early. Keep in mind that many insurances only cover exams every 6 months and 1 day though.

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Little Jerry said:

I have a dentist question too! Is it normal for a filling to bleed and hurt like two weeks out? Please answer @elmoali's question first, since I'm butting in

Are you SURE it's the filling that is bleeding and not the gums around the tooth? Also, is it a white filling?

White fillings can cause sensitivity for a long time (months even) because of the way they "pull" (for lack of a better word) on the dentinal tubules.

If the tooth itself is bleeding and not the gums around it, call a different dentist than the one you went to for the filling. If your tooth is bleeding you need a root canal and your dentist is shady- there's no way you wouldn't notice a pulp exposure large enough to leak through a filling as a dentist so I would not go back to that one if that is the case. Bleeding around the gums however might just mean that the filling needs adjusted.

s0ulchicken

Can I butt in with a question too? Both of the twins have a moderate lip tie, that their pediatric dentist was unconcerned about. Aubrey seems to be cutting her top two front teeth, and her gums and lip look pretty swollen. She doesn't seem to be in a tremendous amount of pain, but we have given her motrin the last day or so. Normal? Not normal? We have an appointment on Wednesday. The swelling in her lip concerns me

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s0ulchicken said:

Can I butt in with a question too? Both of the twins have a moderate lip tie, that their pediatric dentist was unconcerned about. Aubrey seems to be cutting her top two front teeth, and her gums and lip look pretty swollen. She doesn't seem to be in a tremendous amount of pain, but we have given her motrin the last day or so. Normal? Not normal? We have an appointment on Wednesday. The swelling in her lip concerns me

Hmmm, if you said the gums were really swollen I wouldn't be surprised at all. The lip swelling is more unusual, but not unheard of. Because of the lip tie it's possible that the inflammation from the gums just has a more direct channel to the lip and therefore is swollen as well. Can you tell how close the teeth are to erupting? The only reason I would be concerned is if the gum swelling gets better but the lip swelling does not. However if you get really worried its best to take her into a dentist who can actually see her and reassure you. I hope she feels better soon!

s0ulchicken

I can see little tooth nubbins through the gum, so it looks like they should erupt soonish. She has an appointment on Wednesday with her pediatric dentist to have it checked out. The dentist said most lip ties are severed by the kids themselves in their first year, so he won't consider cutting it until after their first birthday. It hasn't caused any issues with eating or drinking, so at their first appointment he was not terribly concerned. Thank you so much for weighing in!

MelissaRae1525

I'm gunna take advantage of this q&a too! I know I saw it discusse before when I was pregnant but it didn't apply yet. Should I be brushing his teeth now that he's got some? They're barely out of the gums and I don't want to bother him more if he's in pain. Also is nursing to sleep putting him at risk for cavities? I know bedtime bottles do but I've never heard about nursing. Thanks quidditch! You are awesome

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Aluenna said:

I might as well butt in too! I just wanted to say thanks. After your PSA post I made an appointment to take DD in to a pediatric dentist. My teeth are really weak so I started panicking that she might have decay we didn't know about since our pediatrician and regular dentist told us not until 3. Thankfully everything looks good. I appreciated the information about when she should really start going in. I'll do whatever I can to make sure she doesn't have the same problems I've had.

Im so glad it was helpful! When I am done in chicago I plan on moving to a small town and hope to have some lunch and learns with area pediatricians to get them up to snuff on dental recommendations. If all of the new pediatric dentistry grads would do that I bet we could get it to be more known.

So glad she is on her way to a cavity free mouth for life (fingers crossed!)!

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MelissaRae1525 said:

I'm gunna take advantage of this q&a too! I know I saw it discusse before when I was pregnant but it didn't apply yet. Should I be brushing his teeth now that he's got some? They're barely out of the gums and I don't want to bother him more if he's in pain. Also is nursing to sleep putting him at risk for cavities? I know bedtime bottles do but I've never heard about nursing. Thanks quidditch! You are awesome

The recommendation is to clean the teeth as soon as they come in. However, at that young if an age it doesn't have to be a toothbrush. I used a clean soft rag after nursing DS until he turned 1 and then I started using a toothbrush (he only had two teeth at age 1).

The evidence on breast milk and cavities goes both ways. Yes, breast milk can cause cavities, especially nighttime nursing. However, some preliminary evidence suggests that it has some anti cavity properties. Anecdotally, I have seen cavities in infants who are not on table food and who are only nursing. When I night nursed DS I would wipe his teeth with the cloth I was talking about earlier before I laid him down. I admit this was an advantage of having a baby who would sleep through everything. The good news is that lower front teeth are slightly protected from milk caries in infants because the tongue lies over them during suckling.

missyishere

It's really awesome you will answer these questions for everyone, Quidditch.  How are you feeling in your pregnancy? 

MelissaRae1525

quidditchcapn1120 said:

MelissaRae1525 said:

I'm gunna take advantage of this q&a too! I know I saw it discusse before when I was pregnant but it didn't apply yet. Should I be brushing his teeth now that he's got some? They're barely out of the gums and I don't want to bother him more if he's in pain. Also is nursing to sleep putting him at risk for cavities? I know bedtime bottles do but I've never heard about nursing. Thanks quidditch! You are awesome

The recommendation is to clean the teeth as soon as they come in. However, at that young if an age it doesn't have to be a toothbrush. I used a clean soft rag after nursing DS until he turned 1 and then I started using a toothbrush (he only had two teeth at age 1).

The evidence on breast milk and cavities goes both ways. Yes, breast milk can cause cavities, especially nighttime nursing. However, some preliminary evidence suggests that it has some anti cavity properties. Anecdotally, I have seen cavities in infants who are not on table food and who are only nursing. When I night nursed DS I would wipe his teeth with the cloth I was talking about earlier before I laid him down. I admit this was an advantage of having a baby who would sleep through everything. The good news is that lower front teeth are slightly protected from milk caries in infants because the tongue lies over them during suckling.

So far it's only his two bottom teeth, so I'll try to sneak a rag in there and see how it goes. Thanks again! I really appreciate it.

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missyishere said:

It's really awesome you will answer these questions for everyone, Quidditch.  How are you feeling in your pregnancy? 

I love it to be honest! The parents of the kids I work with right now are pretty disinterested- for good reason, they usually are in bad home situations. It's nice to get questions that are intelligible and the parents actually want to hear the answers.

And to be honest, pregnancy is a lot harder when you have to take care of a toddler. But now that I've been done with morning sickness for a few weeks it's much more manageable. Thanks for asking!

littlestjerry

@quidditchcapn1120, sorry I'm getting back to this so late. It could definitely just be the gum bleeding...it feels like blood is coming from between my teeth which is where the filling is. But I can feel that my gum around the tooth is swollen.

ASmallWonder

@quidditchcapn1120 thanks!  You're probably right in that it just feels close but won't pop for a while.  Although, having a fang for Halloween would pretty much kick ass.

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SunnyDays26 said:

I also really appreciate you answering these questions. I scheduled DS's first dental appointment (in two weeks) because of your last post. He just turned one. He still takes a bottle before bed (after dinner/brushing/bath time). I guess I need to find a way to sneak a quick clean in there. I also increased the brushing to twice a day instead of once a day because of your recommendation. He now has 7 teeth. Brush in the morning and at night. I think he would wake up with cleaning his teeth after his night bottle. Any suggestions? (It's milk, not formula). We are making the transition now that he turned one.

My only suggestion for this really is to drop that bottle as fast as possible. I know it's hard partially because it feels like he isn't a baby anymore if he doesn't get a bottle before bed. However, cow's milk is worse than breast milk and formula in terms of causing cavities as lactose is a fermentable sugar in the mouth. I hope his appointment goes well!

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Little Jerry said:

@quidditchcapn1120, sorry I'm getting back to this so late. It could definitely just be the gum bleeding...it feels like blood is coming from between my teeth which is where the filling is. But I can feel that my gum around the tooth is swollen.

This makes more sense and is less concerning. Is it a white filling or a silver filling? When you floss does it seem smooth? Or does the floss shred?

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krptcmschfmkr128 said:

Miss you, Quid! I missed your PSA. I should get DD into a dentist before 3? SIL is an EFDA(?) and told us 3.

Aaaaahhhhh! (Not at you, at misinformed dental professionals). Yes, the AAPD official recommendation is the first birthday or within 6 months of the eruption of the first tooth, whichever comes first.

This is not just to check for cavities but also to establish a dental home (in case of a future trauma/emergency), diagnose developmental disorders, and to get kids used to being at the dentist.

quidditchcapn1120

krptcmschfmkr128 said:

quidditchcapn1120 said:

krptcmschfmkr128 said:

Miss you, Quid! I missed your PSA. I should get DD into a dentist before 3? SIL is an EFDA(?) and told us 3.

Aaaaahhhhh! (Not at you, at misinformed dental professionals). Yes, the AAPD official recommendation is the first birthday or within 6 months of the eruption of the first tooth, whichever comes first.

This is not just to check for cavities but also to establish a dental home (in case of a future trauma/emergency), diagnose developmental disorders, and to get kids used to being at the dentist.

Wellll we are just slightly behind then... *off to find a pediatric dentist who accepts Metlife Dental*

krptcmschfmkr128 said:

quidditchcapn1120 said:

krptcmschfmkr128 said:

Miss you, Quid! I missed your PSA. I should get DD into a dentist before 3? SIL is an EFDA(?) and told us 3.

Aaaaahhhhh! (Not at you, at misinformed dental professionals). Yes, the AAPD official recommendation is the first birthday or within 6 months of the eruption of the first tooth, whichever comes first.

This is not just to check for cavities but also to establish a dental home (in case of a future trauma/emergency), diagnose developmental disorders, and to get kids used to being at the dentist.

Wellll we are just slightly behind then... *off to find a pediatric dentist who accepts Metlife Dental*


You can go to AAPD.org and there is a place where you can look up licensed pediatric dentists by zip code. How old is your LO (I'm on mobile so I can't see your siggy!)?

PinkyFloyd73

quidditchcapn1120 you are awesome for answering all these questions. If you're still around, do you have any advice for encouraging toddlers to brush teeth? We have tried all kinds of ways to encourage him, and all he wants to do is suck the toothpaste off the brush. No matter how hard we try it always resorts to one of us holding him down while the other brushes his teeth while he screams. We're being gentle but he hates being held down. I'm afraid we're just further traumatizing him about having his teeth brushed.

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sgreen13 said:

Gonna try to get in a question as well. My LO has become a teeth grinder. At first it was just in the almost sleeping phase. Now she does it all the time! It sounds awful. Should I be worried? She has four teeth on the top and two on the bottom.

Nope, no worries. Unfortunately, grinding is a natural and normal physiologic process in the early years. It usually stops by the time they get their first permanent teeth around age 6 (sorry!). However, there's nothing you can do to stop it at this point. If it starts to cause problems in permanent teeth your dentist can work on a mouth guard but that will be unhelpful at this age.

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PinkyFloyd73 said:

quidditchcapn1120 you are awesome for answering all these questions. If you're still around, do you have any advice for encouraging toddlers to brush teeth? We have tried all kinds of ways to encourage him, and all he wants to do is suck the toothpaste off the brush. No matter how hard we try it always resorts to one of us holding him down while the other brushes his teeth while he screams. We're being gentle but he hates being held down. I'm afraid we're just further traumatizing him about having his teeth brushed.

I get this question or variants of it often and my response to the last part of it is that it is definitely less traumatic to do what you are doing for brushing (good job by the way!) than needing a bunch of work at the dentist at a young age.

However, here are some things to make brushing more fun at that age. First, choices choices choices. Have multiple toothbrushes and toothpastes available if possible and let him choose whichever he likes. If you have more than one bathroom he can choose that too. Singing is good too. We sing the ABCs twice while brushing but you can really make it any song he enjoys. Let him brush by himself if he wants for a bit with no toothpaste on the brush.

Also, keep in mind it is a temporary thing. Most typically developing kids don't fight it once they get to be 5 or so. At least not in the same way (i.e kicking and screaming- they get smarter about which battles to choose around that age).

Good luck!

PinkyFloyd73

quidditchcapn1120 said:

quidditchcapn1120 you are awesome for answering all these questions. If you're still around, do you have any advice for encouraging toddlers to brush teeth? We have tried all kinds of ways to encourage him, and all he wants to do is suck the toothpaste off the brush. No matter how hard we try it always resorts to one of us holding him down while the other brushes his teeth while he screams. We're being gentle but he hates being held down. I'm afraid we're just further traumatizing him about having his teeth brushed.

I get this question or variants of it often and my response to the last part of it is that it is definitely less traumatic to do what you are doing for brushing (good job by the way!) than needing a bunch of work at the dentist at a young age. However, here are some things to make brushing more fun at that age. First, choices choices choices. Have multiple toothbrushes and toothpastes available if possible and let him choose whichever he likes. If you have more than one bathroom he can choose that too. Singing is good too. We sing the ABCs twice while brushing but you can really make it any song he enjoys. Let him brush by himself if he wants for a bit with no toothpaste on the brush. Also, keep in mind it is a temporary thing. Most typically developing kids don't fight it once they get to be 5 or so. At least not in the same way (i.e kicking and screaming- they get smarter about which battles to choose around that age). Good luck!

Thank you so much.