UO

jedimindtrick

kmcd23 said:

SpanFran said:

I actually have one this week.  Here goes: should I ever have another baby, I will make sure I deliver at a hospital that allows babies to sleep in a nursery.

I hope my quote trimming worked...

I feel you on this one. Our hospital was the same way, and going in, I thought it was great. I had one nurse tell me she would take him to the room where they did all their vitals, etc, so I could sleep. I turned her down because I felt guilty. I regretted that the next day, when I was so exhausted and drugged that I felt crazy, and the nurse on shift looked at me like I was crazy when I asked her if she would do that too. That's the night that I woke up to him crying and dreamwalked that he was an alien burrito baby, handed him to H while telling him I had no idea what this thing was but we had to help it, and walked away to go to the bathroom.

Yup, I needed more help and sleep at that point.

Before we went to the hospital DH was adamant that LO wouldn't go to the nursery. I had 32 hrs of labor and a section. LO went to the nursery every night. Of course it was 3:00 before we gave in, so we got about 3 hrs each night. Next time the baby will go sooner. I was a complete wreck by the time we came home.

jedimindtrick

CarolineEmma said:

pcat13 said:

CarolineEmma said:

My UO?
Thus far, I really dislike cloth diapering, Maybe if I had invested a couple hundred dollars into name brand cloth diapers, it would be better, but we started with pre folds and plastic pants which turned her poor lower half into a damp urine sauna, so I made PUL covers and she leaks through them so fast! I am so tempted to just stick with disposables at this point instead of continuing on the CD path.

PUL is a tricky fabric. Maybe buy some name brand covers before giving up? My PUL covers pretty much never leak.

What brand do you use?

I have rumparooz, blueberry, and thirsties



I love them more than I expected and so does DH. I started with prefolds too and didn't like that he stayed so wet. We use bumgenius now and they are great. Actually hold the poop explosions in.
Just agreeing that maybe a different brand would be better.

jedimindtrick

My UO (which I touched upon in another post) is that while I love The Bump as a way to chat with other moms about anything, I feel there a a certain culture that definitely leans more towards certain philosophies than others. I get that this is normal in any "social circle."

But what I don't like is that pediatrician recommendations are questioned all the time on here, about sleep training, when to start solids, etc. Yet the minute someone questions immunizations or a different schedule it's all about "where did you get your medical degree?" I am not anti-immunization. I just feel like its very hit and miss when it comes to the "do what the doctor says" sentiment.

LaxMOM44

Shantxtell said:

I get really pissy when people refer to bed sharing as a " bad habit".

Love this.

KLJ3

RoxZ32 said:

jayro10 said:

scormier123 said:

KLJ3 said:

RoxZ32 said:

I think people who back into parking spots or into their driveways are big DBs.

Why?  Is it because you're stuck behind them, waiting?

Yes, I need an explanation of this! I don't get it?

Where I live, it's illegal to drive into your driveway in neighborhoods. It's safer to drive out so you don't back out and hit a child or something. (I know that's what mirrors are for, I didn't make the rules lol) 

Totally an honest question, no snark intended... But wouldn't you be just as likely to run something or someone over while you're backing IN to your driveway as when you're backing OUT?


Ohhh man - I totally think I'm getting flamed for this but here goes nothing...

I'd think so @jayro10

honestly - I only have a couple reasons why this irritates me so much but they aren't great reasons. It's just my opinion.
It takes much more time to back into a spot in a full parking lot than it would to just pull in like EVERY other person there. They hold up the show and it's like they are happy to have people stare at them and their car. Am I supposed to be jealous that you are such a risk taker? Jealous of your "cool" car? Or am I just supposed to be envious of your bad ass demeanor? Also don't use the excuse or joke "so I can make a quicker escape" - from wal-mart?? I just view it as a "I'm better than you". And I don't think everyone does it as a safety precaution in their driveway either. for example my brother does this at his house and he has 2 kids, it's just as dangerous backing in BUT he also has a rear view camera so it's not like they a high risk of getting hit either way. Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone but it seems to apply to most people I see do it!



The idea is that when you back in to your driveway, you've already driven by and seen that there didn't happen to be a passel of kids and puppies playing there. You also can see what the traffic situation is because you're already on the road. Pulling out is safer because your field of view is significantly greater in front of your vehicle (and you'd probably have noticed if there were kids and puppies in front of your car).

My husband works for a company that requires employees to "first move forward" because it's an established safety protocol for drivers in the industry (too many dogs, kids, and traffic backed into). No matter where he is, he ALWAYS has to back in so that his first move is forward. He does it out of habit at home, too.

Unfortunately, efficient backing-in requires people to actually know how to drive their car...which is often not the case.

LaxMOM44

I remember distinctly being a child and feeling really sick like with the flu and my mother was adamant that children should sleep in their own rooms and I wanted so badly to go sleep with my parents because I felt so sick but I was too afraid of getting in trouble for going into their room so I ended up vomiting all over my bed and sleeping in it anyways because I was sure I wasn't allowed to sleep anywhere else.

All that I wanted as a sick little 8 or 9 year old was to cuddle my mommy ...bed sharing feels natural and maternal for me (underline FOR ME) and no way is LO going to be told that she can't come for a cuddle.

ILoveSnacks

janapettus said:

Shantxtell said:

I get really pissy when people refer to bed sharing as a " bad habit".

I'd love this a million times if I could. Someone said something about how HC would want to sleep in our bed until he's 8, and I just said that HC is the miracle baby I never thought I'd have, and he's welcome in my bed at any age.

FFS I can't stand any of that "it won't be pretty when they're older" nonsense. Kids eventually outgrow lots of things -- swaddling, pacifiers, liquid diet, diapers, infant car seats -- and it doesn't make any of them bad for when they are babies.

I don't sleep with LO because I like to roll and I like blankets. But I'm excited for when she gets a little older and she can come snuggle with me under the covers, especially on chilly winter mornings.

LaxMOM44

My UO, after reading...no, revelling in the insanity on May 14 and April 14, I am starting to think maybe hormones do affect your judgement during pregnancy cause that sh!t is ridiculous.

helenkayj

nonniedee said:

I don't like to share. I have 7 brothers and sisters, and I've been sharing my whole life. I feel like it's allowed me to be taken advantage of a lot. Also, it bred sneakiness in me. Whenever I used to get something new, I would hide it because I was tired of sharing. It want until I was able to pay my own way that I got anything to myself. Now I'm super selfish. I have to make up for all those years lol

Haha this made me think of Friends "JOEY DOESN'T SHARE FOOD!!!" I quote this all the time using my own name when someone takes something off my plate.

1and1is3

pcat13 said:

Lolalipsy said:

janapettus said:

There are about 2-3 babies in HC's DC class that are on strict feeding schedules. These babies are really young. One is even like 10 weeks. He gets only 3 oz of a breastmilk/formula mix every 3 hours! My son is 5 months old and is just now starting to eat every 3-4 hours. Anytime I'm there to feed or pick up HC, if that baby isn't sleeping, he's screaming bloody murder because he's starving. One of the DC ladies actually got fussed at by the mom for feeding him more one day because he could not be calmed down. It's ridiculous! I was just there a minute ago and she was giving one of the other babies her bottle and she's limited to 3 oz. When she was done with her bottle she starts crying so hard because she's still hungry! They are so freaking skinny! Feed those damn babies!!

Rant over.

That's disgraceful. DC should refuse to stick to it if the babies are clearly hungry.

I agree, I think that not feeding hungry babies should be considered a form of child abuse, not only are the parents not doing what they should for their babies, but they are putting their DC provider in a horrible position of dealing with a screaming, hungry baby. 

This. I think it's even worse when the child is in daycare because the mom can't see how limiting food is affecting the baby! Maybe it's just because I have a slow gainer so my view is skewed but I can't imagine limiting food because I'm constantly trying to get LO to eat! This is not a good area to try to save money IMO (assuming that is what they are trying to do).

telicious2

1and1is3 said:

pcat13 said:

Lolalipsy said:

janapettus said:

There are about 2-3 babies in HC's DC class that are on strict feeding schedules. These babies are really young. One is even like 10 weeks. He gets only 3 oz of a breastmilk/formula mix every 3 hours! My son is 5 months old and is just now starting to eat every 3-4 hours. Anytime I'm there to feed or pick up HC, if that baby isn't sleeping, he's screaming bloody murder because he's starving. One of the DC ladies actually got fussed at by the mom for feeding him more one day because he could not be calmed down. It's ridiculous! I was just there a minute ago and she was giving one of the other babies her bottle and she's limited to 3 oz. When she was done with her bottle she starts crying so hard because she's still hungry! They are so freaking skinny! Feed those damn babies!!

Rant over.

That's disgraceful. DC should refuse to stick to it if the babies are clearly hungry.

I agree, I think that not feeding hungry babies should be considered a form of child abuse, not only are the parents not doing what they should for their babies, but they are putting their DC provider in a horrible position of dealing with a screaming, hungry baby. 

This. I think it's even worse when the child is in daycare because the mom can't see how limiting food is affecting the baby! Maybe it's just because I have a slow gainer so my view is skewed but I can't imagine limiting food because I'm constantly trying to get LO to eat! This is not a good area to try to save money IMO (assuming that is what they are trying to do).

Poor babies! If I was one of the DC providers I would make reference to the parents that LO was still hungry after the 3 oz in a "hint hint" kind of way.

smg2302

@maymomNY I totally agree about pinterest.  I also get annoyed when everyone puts "mind blown."  Hyperbole much?  I'm pretty sure it was just an interesting fact.

emg2010

This is my first post for an UO so here it goes.... I hate when young kids are in a million extra activities after school.  I'm fine with it when they are a little older like in middle school but it drives me nuts when they are 5yo and have a list of practices to go to.My sister is guilty of that. She has my niece and nephew both under 10 in a ton of after school stuff. The poor kids get off the bus, run home to eat a quick meal and are off to a few different practices. I can see it's so exhausting for them.

 Also, I hate seeing tiny kids playing on teams. I was at a town park and saw a bunch of practices going on. There was a soccer game going on with 3 yo. Why?? They had no clue what was going on. 

 

DiFazette

laxminavkar said:

Flame away but I really don't understand home births. They seem like a selfish way to put the lives of you and your baby at risk. My SIL had a very low risk pregnancy and chose a home birth. The baby ended up being too big and his shoulders got stuck. His head was out for a few minutes and he almost died. They had to call an ambulance and break his bones to get him out. Do I think it was worth it to have the baby at home? No way!! I was also a very low risk pregnancy but during labor we had a lot of scares with my LO heart rate and I had to be put on oxygen. I thank God I had so many trained medical professionals around me. You can still have a midwife/doula/med free birth in a hospital so why not?

So I have a bit of an issue with the unsafe label being attached to home births. There are many countries in the world with lower infant mortality rates than the US, where home births are the norm. The two most cited examples are the Netherlands and Japan.

While infant mortality rates are lower in Japan - over 50% of births occur in hospitals.  Perhaps it's because culturally they don't believe in medicated births?

TradeMama

emg2010 said:

This is my first post for an UO so here it goes.... I hate when young kids are in a million extra activities after school.  I'm fine with it when they are a little older like in middle school but it drives me nuts when they are 5yo and have a list of practices to go to.My sister is guilty of that. She has my niece and nephew both under 10 in a ton of after school stuff. The poor kids get off the bus, run home to eat a quick meal and are off to a few different practices. I can see it's so exhausting for them.

 Also, I hate seeing tiny kids playing on teams. I was at a town park and saw a bunch of practices going on. There was a soccer game going on with 3 yo. Why?? They had no clue what was going on. 

 

IMO it makes more sense to expose kids to lots of different things so they can see what they like while they're young. When they get older, they don't have that option... And it's harder to compete in middle/high school if you join a sport/activity other kids have been doing since they were 4.

My 7 year old plays (flag) football, soccer, golf, and piano. After soccer season, he'll start wrestling, and in spring he'll play lacrosse. He likes soccer/football/lacrosse/wrestling because they're fun... He can play Beethoven on the piano and hit a golf ball straight 100 yards at the driving range.

My older son only does one sport at a time since in high school they practice 6 days a week and there's no time for other sports. He is a varsity wrestler (has been since freshman year) and plays lacrosse. He plays the piano as well and plays golf occasionally. He also works out in our home gym and takes weight lifting at school.

They love it and being on a team has had a really positive effect on both of them. When it stops being fun for them, they can quit... But neither one complains about any of it. We are definitely doing it for our kids.

LaxMOM44

That is a really good point. I Retract my useless statistic. @tricia560

LaxMOM44

However I still argue that home births for low risk women with healthy pregnancies are not putting the lives of the mother and child at risk.

This is a recent study done in Canada that would suggest, at least in our medical system that home births are a perfectly safe choice.

https://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/technology/story/1.862485

I didn't choose a home birth because I wanted the option of an epidural, but after delivering naturally and drug free in a hospital attended only by my midwife I don't see why it would have been unsafe for me to give birth at home. For every story of a healthy pregnancy that was saved by medical interventions, I can find you a woman who's healthy pregnancy and delivery was completely uneventful.

That being said I don't know why women choose home births, if I had to do all those preparations and keep my house relatively clean in the last month of pregnancy I would have gone insane.

drhibbard

emg2010 said:

This is my first post for an UO so here it goes.... I hate when young kids are in a million extra activities after school.  I'm fine with it when they are a little older like in middle school but it drives me nuts when they are 5yo and have a list of practices to go to.My sister is guilty of that. She has my niece and nephew both under 10 in a ton of after school stuff. The poor kids get off the bus, run home to eat a quick meal and are off to a few different practices. I can see it's so exhausting for them.

 Also, I hate seeing tiny kids playing on teams. I was at a town park and saw a bunch of practices going on. There was a soccer game going on with 3 yo. Why?? They had no clue what was going on. 

 

Ha.  These soccer games crack me up.  My nephew was like a superstar when he was four.  He played well because he played with his older brothers all the time.  The other kids on the field were doing cartwheels, spinning, picking grass and picking their noses.

OhhHey955

 

OhhHey955

Here's mine... I don't like it that my 5 month old messes with my keyboard when I'm trying to type (see above post)  and manages to like people's status on facebook. Most of the stuff that she decides to like on facebook are people that I'm not sure why I'm even friends with.

LaxMOM44

ShayeLeighM said:

Here's mine... I don't like it that my 5 month old messes with my keyboard when I'm trying to type (see above post)  and manages to like people's status on facebook. Most of the stuff that she decides to like on facebook are people that I'm not sure why I'm even friends with.

Amazing!!!

LaxMOM44

Oh I see there is a difference in our systems. In Canada all midwives who are allowed to attend home births are RN midwives who have completed a university level degree in midwifery. When you see a midwife you don have an ob/gyn, the midwife is you primary care provider. They give you the option of home or hospital birth if try seen your pregnancy to be safe and if at any time during your pregnancy they have any concerns they will tell you that you have to have a hospital birth.

I agree with you completely that medical interventions are life saving and the reasons that so many moms and babies survive what is a very dangerous thing. I guess my issue was with imply that it is only home births that put those lives at stake, as though having a hospital birth was the only safe option, when in cruelty there are dangers inherent in hospital births thy don't exist in home births.

Anyways to really make an intelligent argument I'd probably have to do much more research into the subject and To be honest I can't see why anyone would prefer to have a home birth anymore than a home dental cleaning or a home eye exam. I just think home births a valid safe option and they get a bad rap.

Schell2013

tricia560 said:

laxminavkar said:

However I still argue that home births for low risk women with healthy pregnancies are not putting the lives of the mother and child at risk.

This is a recent study done in Canada that would suggest, at least in our medical system that home births are a perfectly safe choice.

https://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/technology/story/1.862485

I didn't choose a home birth because I wanted the option of an epidural, but after delivering naturally and drug free in a hospital attended only by my midwife I don't see why it would have been unsafe for me to give birth at home. For every story of a healthy pregnancy that was saved by medical interventions, I can find you a woman who's healthy pregnancy and delivery was completely uneventful.

That being said I don't know why women choose home births, if I had to do all those preparations and keep my house relatively clean in the last month of pregnancy I would have gone insane.

I disagree with the bold statement, but then I would argue that ANY pregnancy puts a mother and child at risk; it's the nature of the beast.  Pregnancy is a dangerous condition, and women and babies have died from it for centuries; the current generation seems to have forgotten that fact, because in our lifetime, being pregnant has become so much safer, largely through the introduction of interventions.

However, if a woman has already given birth naturally in a hospital setting, and her SECOND pregnancy is healthy, low risk, and the baby is roughly the same size as the first, I would agree that the risk to mother and baby in giving birth at home is probably pretty low.  I would still want a Registered Nurse Midwife (an RN with an advanced degree in midwifery, NOT someone with a HS degree who did an "apprenticeship") in attendance, though, and in the US, most of them won't attend home births.

I come at this topic as a child of an RN who spent 30 years working on OB wards; my mother has some stories of "healthy low risk pregnancies" that ended in birth stories that would curl your hair, so I feel passionately about it.
  I also have a very good birth experience at the hospital I went to, and was very grateful that they were able to use the vacuum equipment to help me when my strength failed at the last moment.  If it hadn't been available and in the room, and the doctors and nurses poised to use it, I might have had a last minute emergency CS, or have lost my baby (which makes me teary eyed to think of even now).  So that's my
bias.

Considering my baby almost died I would be terrified to have a home birth ever.