2 week appointment

Pattern

New here...my LO is two weeks old. At her appointment today I mentioned that her poop is a light green, different than my son's was (his was always mustard colour). The Dr.took her diaper in a different room, tested it for blood and then told me it was positive, and to stop eating milk and soy. Is this common? The Dr.said she has a milk protein allergy and I should cut soy out too because most babies with a milk allergy are allergic to soy too. 

I would love more info, online stuff is tricky. Also should I ask to see a specialist? Should I ask for allergy testing? Is it normal to cut milk and soy both? Finally, and tips on things to eat? Soy looks like it is in everything...

magdusia

yes, common.   I was milk and soy free when i was nursing both of my kids. The protein gets into the milk.  More than 50% of kids allergic to milk are also allergic to soy.  (but not most).  I wouldn't automatically cut both out. I would cut milk out and see if there is any change. But doctor knows more than i do so i would just cut both. 

I would go to a pedi allergist and get their opinion but they probably won't test her since he's only 2 weeks old. Most doctors won't test her until she's one. I would just avoid milk and soy and once her poops gets normal i would try some soy and see how her poops change.. (talk to your doc about that). 

There are so many things to eat that are milk and soy but you really need to be careful. You can also google MSPI recipes (milk and soy protein intolerance) 

They make milk/soy free butter now by earth balance (red box)

they make coconut milk icecream which is delicious by "so delicious"

you can have most cereals (ALWAYS check ingredients) 

here is my pantry list of milk/soy free things.  My house now has soy but most of the things on the list are soy free. 

magdusia

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Pattern

Thanks for the info... it is very helpful!

shotzie

There's a check in on Mondays on the Breastfeeding board for MSPI Moms. You can read past posts at mspimoms.blogspot.com. The site mspimama.com has lots of great recipes.

You'll need to read labels for foods, drinks, vitamins. I had to cut dairy and soy. It can take a good 4 weeks for the dairy to clear your and LO's systems. So give it some time. If all her symptoms don't clear up, then cut soy as well.

Allergy testing isn't reliable when they're that young. MSPI is an intolerance that is usually outgrown, often by age 1 or so. A true allergy would cause things like hives, watery/itchy eyes/nose, eczema. An MSPI baby will test negative for allergies to milk/soy, because they're two different things.

magdusia

shotzie said:

There's a check in on Mondays on the Breastfeeding board for MSPI Moms. You can read past posts at mspimoms.blogspot.com. The site mspimama.com has lots of great recipes. You'll need to read labels for foods, drinks, vitamins. I had to cut dairy and soy. It can take a good 4 weeks for the dairy to clear your and LO's systems. So give it some time. If all her symptoms don't clear up, then cut soy as well. Allergy testing isn't reliable when they're that young. MSPI is an intolerance that is usually outgrown, often by age 1 or so. A true allergy would cause things like hives, watery/itchy eyes/nose, eczema. An MSPI baby will test negative for allergies to milk/soy, because they're two different things.

Her original post states that there was blood in the babies stool, which means it's NOT an intolerance, but an allergy.   She should still look for MSPI recipes since they are milk and soy free, but she should look at this as an allergy, not intolerance so an allergy test would pick it up but doctors rarely test babies that young.   

My allergist said the youngest she has ever tested was at 5 days old but that was a special case and usually waits until the child is 1.  We were 8 months old when my son was tested but that's due to an anaphalexis reaction. 

shotzie

@magdusia DD2 had blood in her stool, but was/is not allergic to dairy. Blood in the stool is common with MSPI.

magdusia

shotzie said:

@magdusia DD2 had blood in her stool, but was/is not allergic to dairy. Blood in the stool is common with MSPI.

that's the first time i hear this.  I never had to deal with blood in diaper so i'm going to take your word for it but two close friends did and they both told me blood in stool is an allergy.  For my own curiosity i'll ask my doc next time i see her which is soon. 

either way, it's very dangerous to have blood in stool, especially for a baby.  

I wonder if the quantity matters. Both of my friends had an entire diaper full of blood. (like about 1/2 a cup of pure blood) so maybe the quantity of blood makes a difference.  

shotzie

Yes, blood in stool is dangerous. I'm just saying it's a symptom for both MSPI and a dairy allergy. Only time will tell if it's MSPI or a true allergy, since allergy testing probably wouldn't be reliable at this point.

https://www.completechildrenshealth.com/news/articles/what-is-mspi

"Children with MSPI may cry 18 hours or more a day and may develop weight loss, congestion, repeated vomiting, reflux, and certain kinds of skin rashes. They also may have changes in appetite, including refusing food or wanting to eat all the time, irritability/fussiness, and blood or mucous in their stools."

Pattern

My Dr. Reported we went know if it's an allergy or just an intolerance until she is older...I couldn't see blood in her stool...I just thought her poop was very green...no other symptoms right now.

LSU628

Our allergist tested DS at 2 weeks but only b/c his sister has food allergies and he was exhibiting several of the same signs (screaming, fighting feedings, refusing to latch, profuse spitting up, red rash immediately after eating, lots of sneezing and coughing). She didn't want to put him on Elecare or another hypoallergenic crazy expensive formula if he wasn't allergic.