June 2013 Moms

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  • @rianmommie my H is a college swim coach and I love going to watch his meets. I feel like a creeper as I sit and chitchat with the parents but whatev!
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  • ChristyD6 said:
    Ohh another. I fuss at DH whenever he's watching tv or playing with his phone while he holds LO bc he needs to stare deeply into her eyes and bond dammit! But ummm I'm very guilty of fbing the entire time I'm nursing her.
    I do this too!

    My confession - DH got home super late last night from work - around midnight due to an emergency surgery. He started getting all cuddly and wanting to get it on. Right then DD started fussing. I've never jumped out of bed to go check on her so fast. I kept hoping she would take longer to fall asleep than DH just so I didn't have to have sex. No such luck
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  • stackie16 said:
    I leave LO alone on the play mat in the room with the dog often.
    Wait - are we not supposed to do this?? I do this all the time too. I am usually just in the kitchen but I cannot always see her
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  • iggles09 said:


    stackie16 said:

    I leave LO alone on the play mat in the room with the dog often.

    Wait - are we not supposed to do this?? I do this all the time too. I am usually just in the kitchen but I cannot always see her

    We are trying to never leave the baby and dog alone while she's so young. Our vet recommended this. She said unfortunately she's had to euthanize dogs that have accidentally hurt babies. She said no matter how well you know your dog, how calm they are, etc there is always a remote chance that they could get scared and accidentally scratch or bite the baby.

    I say we would never have Flower euthanized but I'd hate to be in a spot where I was even asked to consider it or give her to my brother (which is likely what would happen if we couldn't keep her). We always supervise the two of them but yeah, sometimes flower goes back to where the baby is before me.
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  • ChristyD6 said:
    stackie16 said:
    I leave LO alone on the play mat in the room with the dog often.
    Wait - are we not supposed to do this?? I do this all the time too. I am usually just in the kitchen but I cannot always see her
    We are trying to never leave the baby and dog alone while she's so young. Our vet recommended this. She said unfortunately she's had to euthanize dogs that have accidentally hurt babies. She said no matter how well you know your dog, how calm they are, etc there is always a remote chance that they could get scared and accidentally scratch or bite the baby. I say we would never have Flower euthanized but I'd hate to be in a spot where I was even asked to consider it or give her to my brother (which is likely what would happen if we couldn't keep her). We always supervise the two of them but yeah, sometimes flower goes back to where the baby is before me.
    I guess I didn't think about that. Funny thing is - I am a vet and this really never crossed my mind. My dogs do not go near the baby unless I am holding her though - and even then it is rare. If she starts fussing and I am out of the room, they come find me.
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  • ChristyD6ChristyD6 member
    edited September 2013
    @iggles09 the quote tree was growing too much ;)
    Our vet may just know our dog. She's a 56lb pit mix and sweet as can be, but she thinks she is a lap dog sometimes. It hurts when she accidentally steps on my foot or tries to snuggle me and head butts me. She has quickly learned that she's not allowed on LO's playmat or to lick her, but she's 2.5yo and pushes the boundaries sometimes. Sounds like your dogs aren't as into babies as mine is. Her mothering instinct is coming out and she would lick LO all day if we let her :)

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    My two girls Flower and Ayla Faye
  • ChristyD6 said:
    @iggles09 the quote tree was growing too much ;) Our vet may just know our dog. She's a 56lb pit mix and sweet as can be, but she thinks she is a lap dog sometimes. It hurts when she accidentally steps on my foot or tries to snuggle me and head butts me. She has quickly learned that she's not allowed on LO's playmat or to lick her, but she's 2.5yo and pushes the boundaries sometimes. Sounds like your dogs aren't as into babies as mine is. Her mothering instinct is coming out and she would lick LO all day if we let her :) Edit mobile mistake
    That will be sweet when your D is older. I hope my dogs become more into her when she is moving. I want them to cuddle once she is walking and what not.
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  • - I drink alcohol and caffeine and I EBF
    - LO sleeps on her tummy with a blanket for naps(I watch her on the monitor)
    - I havae never strapped her in to her swing and will leave her for a minute to throw in some laundry or grab some food
    - I never gave her the vit D drops
    - toys, positions, locations....... I never judge 2 happy people have good sex :) although the baby watching and smiling does creep me out but I certainly dont think its harming the baby in anyway, I just could never get into it with my daughter watching and smiling
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  • I have another - not sure if this is flame-worthy or jealousy-worthy but:

    I have random days off during the week - every Wed and random Fridays like today. I still take DD to daycare usually on my days off. Not for the whole day but for a little. Sure makes getting things done and running errands so much easier!
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  • I have next Tuesday off and I'm not telling DH so I can have the entire day to do whatever the fluck I want. I will be taking B to daycare too. Selfish, horrible Mommy. I seriously can't wait.

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  • DH and I had sex while baby was sleeping! He woke up and we put him across the bed from us! He whined a bit them smiled at the bed jumping!

    I allow my baby to watch tv more than he should! I turn it off to get him to play and back on when I need mommy time!

    I usually get up early like 7am even though I don't have to work to leave the baby with his daddy to let him wake up to a "I need a bottle, fed, diaper change, wash up, and vitamin". He doesn't really know that! He thinks I'm working out!
  • I hate my daughters name! My husband picked it, and then everyone agreed it was great. I choose Stella or Manhattan. I never liked it, but with all the Miley Cyrus drama I really can't stand it!! Most people don't know her real name because I always refer to her as Miles.
    I like the name Miley.  :) I know my opinion doesn't matter...but it's a cute name. 
    I also like the name Stella. 
    Not so much the Manhattan name though- sorry. 
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  • I hate my daughters name! My husband picked it, and then everyone agreed it was great. I choose Stella or Manhattan. I never liked it, but with all the Miley Cyrus drama I really can't stand it!! Most people don't know her real name because I always refer to her as Miles.

    I love the name Stella! I have a crazy Aunt Stella who I love. But I only have boys...and I don't like Tyler. I fought for his middle name, Conrad (in honor of my late grandmother, Constance), so my husband got to have his say with the first name. I call him Ty which I don't mind, but I wanted Beau or Dean
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  • TheTamedShrewTheTamedShrew member
    edited September 2013

    amiet79 said:





    Sex is better post-baby and we have it everyday.  Yes...DD is in the room and sometimes she is asleep and sometimes she is awake.  Once she was in the bed and smiled at us.

    Mmk- I know it's flame free Friday or whatever, but I think there is an exception to the rule...this would be one of them! I think this is disgusting and totally inappropriate! Really makes me side eye your judgement as a mother. How is this even remotely okay to do? 
    It's one thing if you LO is sharing a room with you at the moment, and they are sleeping in their bed....go ahead get it on, or if they wake up while you are in the middle, go ahead and get yours, but really?? How the hell did you guys even get in the mood when your LO is laying right next to you, awake, and smiling at you?? 
    GROSS!
    I am not one to get on here and flame anyone either- it's not my style, however...this is totally flame worthy- and I am actually surprised that no one else flamed you already! 


     



    Agreed. I think there is something wrong with you and your husband if you can get aroused with a baby smiling at you. 

     

    Holy cow! I definitely did not read it as her and her husband being aroused by their smiling baby.  I think that is a gross exaggeration, assumption, and overreaction.  She merely said they were having sex, looked over, and their baby happened to be smiling.  That could happen to any of us that have had sex with our baby in the same room - not just with the baby in the bed. 

     

    Agreed. The bolded is too harsh. I interpreted this as a hilarious bedroom mishap (although it is strange if this didn't instantly kill the mood for them).



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  • kari5186 said:

    My LO watches TV.  That's right.  The dreaded Devil Box.  Her favorites are Friends, Ghost Hunters, and HIMYM.


    She absolutely hated tummy time until I discovered I could put her on her tummy, on our very firm couch (with my supervision the whole time).  The little girl I thought couldn't hold her head up and would scream during tummy time?  Magically, she can hold her head up for almost 10 minutes straight and quietly chatters at the TV while she does it.  She even looks around the room, too.  It all makes me feel just a little less like a crappy mom for letter her watch the ol' boob tube.
    Just wanted to say thanks for the idea for tummy time! We've been struggling as well so I tried putting her on the couch. She couldn't hold it for a full 10 minutes but she actually lifted her head fully!
  • CarolynL8 said:
    This is more of a UO but i was just watching ellen and i was reminded of how gross i find male strippers! Just stand there and look pretty. Dont gyrate, dont wiggle around or try to move seductively and most of all.... (In a nude club) dont make your penis fly around like a helicopter propeller!! I dont find any of it sexy.
    I couldn't agree more!! 
    MH sometimes does the helicopter thing- it's hilarious. He's not doing it to be sexy, he's doing it because it's flippen hilarious!....it's totally gross. haha. 
    :))
    @brandilc84 omg my hubby does the same thing! Its 10x worse though when he grows out his mustache and does a horrible 70's porn noise voice over!!! I die laughing every time, but man it's so freaking gross!!

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  • Sex is better post-baby and we have it everyday.  Yes...DD is in the room and sometimes she is asleep and sometimes she is awake.  Once she was in the bed and smiled at us.
    Mmk- I know it's flame free Friday or whatever, but I think there is an exception to the rule...this would be one of them! I think this is disgusting and totally inappropriate! Really makes me side eye your judgement as a mother. How is this even remotely okay to do? 
    It's one thing if you LO is sharing a room with you at the moment, and they are sleeping in their bed....go ahead get it on, or if they wake up while you are in the middle, go ahead and get yours, but really?? How the hell did you guys even get in the mood when your LO is laying right next to you, awake, and smiling at you?? 
    GROSS!
    I am not one to get on here and flame anyone either- it's not my style, however...this is totally flame worthy- and I am actually surprised that no one else flamed you already! 


    Just to clarify, she was sleeping the one time it happened. She woke up, looked at us and smiled. NBD.  It is not like she is going to have any memories of it.
  • Sex is better post-baby and we have it everyday.  Yes...DD is in the room and sometimes she is asleep and sometimes she is awake.  Once she was in the bed and smiled at us.
    Mmk- I know it's flame free Friday or whatever, but I think there is an exception to the rule...this would be one of them! I think this is disgusting and totally inappropriate! Really makes me side eye your judgement as a mother. How is this even remotely okay to do? 
    It's one thing if you LO is sharing a room with you at the moment, and they are sleeping in their bed....go ahead get it on, or if they wake up while you are in the middle, go ahead and get yours, but really?? How the hell did you guys even get in the mood when your LO is laying right next to you, awake, and smiling at you?? 
    GROSS!
    I am not one to get on here and flame anyone either- it's not my style, however...this is totally flame worthy- and I am actually surprised that no one else flamed you already! 


     

    Agreed. I think there is something wrong with you and your husband if you can get aroused with a baby smiling at you. 

     

    Holy cow! I definitely did not read it as her and her husband being aroused by their smiling baby.  I think that is a gross exaggeration, assumption, and overreaction.  She merely said they were having sex, looked over, and their baby happened to be smiling.  That could happen to any of us that have had sex with our baby in the same room - not just with the baby in the bed. 

     

    Thank you. I might be kinky but not a perv ;p
  • Sex is better post-baby and we have it everyday.  Yes...DD is in the room and sometimes she is asleep and sometimes she is awake.  Once she was in the bed and smiled at us.
    Mmk- I know it's flame free Friday or whatever, but I think there is an exception to the rule...this would be one of them! I think this is disgusting and totally inappropriate! Really makes me side eye your judgement as a mother. How is this even remotely okay to do? 
    It's one thing if you LO is sharing a room with you at the moment, and they are sleeping in their bed....go ahead get it on, or if they wake up while you are in the middle, go ahead and get yours, but really?? How the hell did you guys even get in the mood when your LO is laying right next to you, awake, and smiling at you?? 
    GROSS!
    I am not one to get on here and flame anyone either- it's not my style, however...this is totally flame worthy- and I am actually surprised that no one else flamed you already! 


     

    Agreed. I think there is something wrong with you and your husband if you can get aroused with a baby smiling at you. 

     

    Holy cow! I definitely did not read it as her and her husband being aroused by their smiling baby.  I think that is a gross exaggeration, assumption, and overreaction.  She merely said they were having sex, looked over, and their baby happened to be smiling.  That could happen to any of us that have had sex with our baby in the same room - not just with the baby in the bed. 

     

    Thank you. I might be kinky but not a perv ;p

    Sorry, I typed the wrong thing. I meant it's wrong if you could stay aroused after the baby smiled at you. I still think it's gross that the baby was in bed with you. Couldn't the baby be in a bassinet or couldn't you go to another room? If you think it's fine, that's your business. I still think it's creepy and I wouldn't do it. 
    FFFC are never flame free, BTW.
  • Mine is a biggy today. I won't let E's dad back in our life. He walked out on us in December (we were dating). We are honestly better off without him. He hasn't had a job since November. He's really just a dead beat with no future, no matter what he says. He says he wants to be in her life but he's only seen her 4 times in 3 months. He rarely tries to contact me.
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    Tetraolgy of Fallot discovered 6.5.13, Open Heart Surgery 10.7.13
     
    (I never see Siggys... I'm always on moblie)
    Ps- My iphone make me sound dumb sometimes... 
  • Mine is a biggy today. I won't let E's dad back in our life. He walked out on us in December (we were dating). We are honestly better off without him. He hasn't had a job since November. He's really just a dead beat with no future, no matter what he says. He says he wants to be in her life but he's only seen her 4 times in 3 months. He rarely tries to contact me.
    I'm sorry that you are dealing with this on top of the stress of E's surgery. You know what's right for you and E. ((hugs))
  • Sex is better post-baby and we have it everyday.  Yes...DD is in the room and sometimes she is asleep and sometimes she is awake.  Once she was in the bed and smiled at us.
    Mmk- I know it's flame free Friday or whatever, but I think there is an exception to the rule...this would be one of them! I think this is disgusting and totally inappropriate! Really makes me side eye your judgement as a mother. How is this even remotely okay to do? 
    It's one thing if you LO is sharing a room with you at the moment, and they are sleeping in their bed....go ahead get it on, or if they wake up while you are in the middle, go ahead and get yours, but really?? How the hell did you guys even get in the mood when your LO is laying right next to you, awake, and smiling at you?? 
    GROSS!
    I am not one to get on here and flame anyone either- it's not my style, however...this is totally flame worthy- and I am actually surprised that no one else flamed you already! 


    Just to clarify, she was sleeping the one time it happened. She woke up, looked at us and smiled. NBD.  It is not like she is going to have any memories of it.
     

    Why even get it on with your man in the same bed your LO is sleeping in, in the first place though? Like- you can't take it to the couch? Move your LO to their own bed? Take it to the shower? On the floor? There was no other spot to DTD, other then the same bed your LO was sleeping in?
    I know your LO won't remember it, (thank GOD) it's just the mere fact of it that makes it totally inappropriate
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  • Haha this thread is totally awesome today!!
    My confession - I had a homemade strawberry margarita tonight (1 shot of blanco and 1 shot of triple sec) and got slightly buzzed, even though I was going slow. And I always drink at least 2 cups of coffee in the morning even though I EBF. Our doctor never said anything about limiting it after LO was born.
  • DH and I had sex while baby was sleeping! He woke up and we put him across the bed from us! He whined a bit them smiled at the bed jumping! I allow my baby to watch tv more than he should! I turn it off to get him to play and back on when I need mommy time! I usually get up early like 7am even though I don't have to work to leave the baby with his daddy to let him wake up to a "I need a bottle, fed, diaper change, wash up, and vitamin". He doesn't really know that! He thinks I'm working out!

    woah lady... Chill with the exclamation points. Sheesh.no one can be that excited about FFFC

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  • I hate my daughters name! My husband picked it, and then everyone agreed it was great. I choose Stella or Manhattan. I never liked it, but with all the Miley Cyrus drama I really can't stand it!! Most people don't know her real name because I always refer to her as Miles.
    I love the name Stella! I have a crazy Aunt Stella who I love. But I only have boys...and I don't like Tyler. I fought for his middle name, Conrad (in honor of my late grandmother, Constance), so my husband got to have his say with the first name. I call him Ty which I don't mind, but I wanted Beau or Dean

    My name is Stella. I rock.

    SURPRISE! BFP: 12/2014 - EDD: 8/13/15

    We made plans and God laughed

    DS: BFP: 9/30/12 - EDD: 6/9/13

    Radley Quinn was fashionably late via induction on 6/17/13

     

  • And furthermore,you sound like a child saying its totally inappropriate. Grow up! It's sex between a married couple that... Wait for it.... Did the same thing to create the baby in the first place!

    SURPRISE! BFP: 12/2014 - EDD: 8/13/15

    We made plans and God laughed

    DS: BFP: 9/30/12 - EDD: 6/9/13

    Radley Quinn was fashionably late via induction on 6/17/13

     

  • Sex is better post-baby and we have it everyday.  Yes...DD is in the room and sometimes she is asleep and sometimes she is awake.  Once she was in the bed and smiled at us.
    Mmk- I know it's flame free Friday or whatever, but I think there is an exception to the rule...this would be one of them! I think this is disgusting and totally inappropriate! Really makes me side eye your judgement as a mother. How is this even remotely okay to do? 
    It's one thing if you LO is sharing a room with you at the moment, and they are sleeping in their bed....go ahead get it on, or if they wake up while you are in the middle, go ahead and get yours, but really?? How the hell did you guys even get in the mood when your LO is laying right next to you, awake, and smiling at you?? 
    GROSS!
    I am not one to get on here and flame anyone either- it's not my style, however...this is totally flame worthy- and I am actually surprised that no one else flamed you already! 


    Just to clarify, she was sleeping the one time it happened. She woke up, looked at us and smiled. NBD.  It is not like she is going to have any memories of it.
     

    Why even get it on with your man in the same bed your LO is sleeping in, in the first place though? Like- you can't take it to the couch? Move your LO to their own bed? Take it to the shower? On the floor? There was no other spot to DTD, other then the same bed your LO was sleeping in?
    I know your LO won't remember it, (thank GOD) it's just the mere fact of it that makes it totally inappropriate

    OH FFS @brandilc84 why are you so ass hurt by her and her H having sex with LO in bed? Ever hear of bed sharing? Do you think the parents put their kids on the floor when they do the deed? Her LO won't remember shit. You're sitting here talking about your H doing the helicopter in one post, then calling her nasty & side eyeing her judgement as a mother in another? Get off your high horse honey. NONE of us are perfect parents.
    I think she meant that the parents can have sex on the floor, not putting the child there. Bed sharing doesn't mean having sex in the same bed as your child. I bed share and my husband and I have sex in a different room. 
  • @amiet79 if that works for you, great, but to say you're "side eyeing a mother's judgement" for having sex while the baby is in bed is crossing a line. You side eye a mother's judgement for leaving their kid in a car on a hot day, or using a car seat that's expired, not for doing something natural while they are in the bed with you. And LO is an infant... I can see if they were a toddler, I'd think that is weird, but I still wouldn't side eye. We all make choices that work for us, and others may not approve,but going out of your way to bash a person and calling them nasty and essentially saying they made a bad parenting decision is rude & ignorant. ESPECIALLY something that's NBFD.

    SURPRISE! BFP: 12/2014 - EDD: 8/13/15

    We made plans and God laughed

    DS: BFP: 9/30/12 - EDD: 6/9/13

    Radley Quinn was fashionably late via induction on 6/17/13

     

  • SLaBM2BSLaBM2B member
    edited September 2013
    @tiffletons518 - absolutely. I'd put my judgey pants on for that one too,now that I think about it. I slept in the floor of my Moms room during hot summers. My step dad didn't know I was in the room & they started DTD. I coughed and he freaked out and kicked me out. It was devastating. I couldn't do that to my child, ya know. Edited to add more.

    SURPRISE! BFP: 12/2014 - EDD: 8/13/15

    We made plans and God laughed

    DS: BFP: 9/30/12 - EDD: 6/9/13

    Radley Quinn was fashionably late via induction on 6/17/13

     

  • Sex is better post-baby and we have it everyday.  Yes...DD is in the room and sometimes she is asleep and sometimes she is awake.  Once she was in the bed and smiled at us.
    Mmk- I know it's flame free Friday or whatever, but I think there is an exception to the rule...this would be one of them! I think this is disgusting and totally inappropriate! Really makes me side eye your judgement as a mother. How is this even remotely okay to do? 
    It's one thing if you LO is sharing a room with you at the moment, and they are sleeping in their bed....go ahead get it on, or if they wake up while you are in the middle, go ahead and get yours, but really?? How the hell did you guys even get in the mood when your LO is laying right next to you, awake, and smiling at you?? 
    GROSS!
    I am not one to get on here and flame anyone either- it's not my style, however...this is totally flame worthy- and I am actually surprised that no one else flamed you already! 


    Just to clarify, she was sleeping the one time it happened. She woke up, looked at us and smiled. NBD.  It is not like she is going to have any memories of it.
     

    Why even get it on with your man in the same bed your LO is sleeping in, in the first place though? Like- you can't take it to the couch? Move your LO to their own bed? Take it to the shower? On the floor? There was no other spot to DTD, other then the same bed your LO was sleeping in?
    I know your LO won't remember it, (thank GOD) it's just the mere fact of it that makes it totally inappropriate

    OH FFS @brandilc84 why are you so ass hurt by her and her H having sex with LO in bed? Ever hear of bed sharing? Do you think the parents put their kids on the floor when they do the deed? Her LO won't remember shit. You're sitting here talking about your H doing the helicopter in one post, then calling her nasty & side eyeing her judgement as a mother in another? Get off your high horse honey. NONE of us are perfect parents.
    Oh hell, I am not ass hurt. I am just saying it's inappropriate. Yes, I've heard of bed sharing, and I do it sometimes, but I certainly don't and won't have sex with my husband while our baby is in bed with us, and I certainly won't have sex with my baby awake who is laying next to us, to where I can look over and see him smiling at us! I am not saying put your baby on the floor when they decide to have sex...how about they take it to the floor, or the couch, or the shower? I mean...there are other spots to have sex with your man, then the same bed your LO is laying in! 
    What does my husband doing the helicopter have anything to do with this?  I am saying he has done it, and when he did do it, our kids were no where around! How is that even relevant to this chick and her husband having sex with their baby in the same bed, even comparable? 
    I think she meant that the parents can have sex on the floor, not putting the child there. Bed sharing doesn't mean having sex in the same bed as your child. I bed share and my husband and I have sex in a different room. 
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  • I don't care how people choose to have sex. But I had to move the baby monitor out of the bed to dtd... I couldn't imagine the baby actually in the same room - let alone in the same bed.
    But I'm having trouble even wanting to have sex. So I'm jealous!
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  • SLaBM2B said:
    @amiet79 if that works for you, great, but to say you're "side eyeing a mother's judgement" for having sex while the baby is in bed is crossing a line. You side eye a mother's judgement for leaving their kid in a car on a hot day, or using a car seat that's expired, not for doing something natural while they are in the bed with you. And LO is an infant... I can see if they were a toddler, I'd think that is weird, but I still wouldn't side eye. We all make choices that work for us, and others may not approve,but going out of your way to bash a person and calling them nasty and essentially saying they made a bad parenting decision is rude & ignorant. ESPECIALLY something that's NBFD.

    I don't think OP is a bad mother. I just thought it was creepy to do it in the same bed, but like you said the baby won't remember. I think I was just shocked when I first read it. Now I don't really care. I was just clarifying in my previous post that the brandi meant the parents have sex on the floor and I was just stating that not all parents who bed share have sex in the same bed. 
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