TTC After a Loss

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If today is not your day to see a BFP, please skip the BFP section below.


This check-in is for Friday, August 30, 2013.  Good morning! I’m looking forward to this weekend. Lots of packing left to do but I’m excited that next weekend we will be on the road! Makes me sad to leave our house but I’m looking forward to us getting to explore a new area and experience living in a region neither of us has ever lived in before. ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~
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BFPs:

Congrats Junebug060609!!!!!! FX that you have great second betas and lots of T&Ps being sent your way.
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This is a check-in designed for us that are AMA (35+) and dealing with that added challenge in our TTCAL journeys. Please feel free to share your insights, vents, thoughts, and anything else. Mostly this check-in is to remind all of us that we are not alone and to offer support to each other. Check in every Friday. New members: Post an introduction and your current TTC status and I will add you to the list! Welcome :-) Current members: Post your updates, link to your chart, upcoming appointments, prayer requests, and if you get a BFP, please feel free to post here (along with your EDD)
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buggirl72

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MsAmandaPants

pintobean39

RN536

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VeganLady
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ashellypnut - Hey pretty lady! Your chart looks like you are trying to sneak in an early O based on that super low temp drop.

ball.and.chain - How is your foot doing and how long do you have to be on crutches? As a kid, I always thought it would be cool to have crutches. I now know how stupid of a kid I was.


Eliz77 - I saw on your IUI question post that you decided to do four natural cycles and then move on to IUI. I’m glad you have a plan moving forward that you are happy with.

gscoville - (((hugs))) how are you doing?

HoldingOutHope - How did your follow up appointment go?

katib77 - Hi love! You should be on BCPs now getting ready for your IVF cycle, yes? How are you doing?

Pintobean39 - (((Hugs))) I saw that your son had another panic attack but he was able to go back to class so that is a good thing. Is there any support groups in your area or someone you can go to to talk to?

MsAmandaPants - Big (((hugs))). How are you doing and what’s the plan going forward?

RN536 -  (((hugs))) to you and your mom.  Is she still recovering well from the surgery? And how are you doing?


VeganLady - Good luck on your monitoring appointment! I’m crossing everything that you body is playing nice and did not O early.
 
To any of our other ladies who missed the last check-in: how are you?
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Question of the Week:  Tell me about the best weekend you ever had.

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  • Veganlady said:
    Good morning ladies!

    VeganLady - Good luck on your monitoring appointment! I’m crossing everything that you body is playing nice and did not O early.

    Thank goodness, it is playing nice! I am not ripe yet. I was just going to post to thank you and @pinkcamino and @myfirstraspberry for helping to calm my crazy yesterday. Today started off with a nice low temp, perfectly in line with previous cycles' pre-O temps. At the RE I had "a lot" of follies on the right and "a few" follies on the left. She measured the largest 2 on each side and they were all between 14-15, one almost 15. Lining was at 8. I think all of these measurements are milimeters?

    The nurse is going to report back to the RE and email me with the plan. It'll likely be trigger on Monday and go in for US/IUI Tuesday/Wednesday, or just go in for US on Tuesday to take a look and plan from there. Either way, DH will be home in ample time to participate. *whew!*

    I'm excited for you, starting fresh in a new place is so fun! I love to explore. I hope Yelp has got a robust set of recommendations for you in your new hood.
    Fantastic response! Monday trigger sounds about right. I think follies grow about 1-2mm each day. I'm very excited for you!

    Yelp is fantastic. I've already started trying to find pizza places and other restaurants in the area we will be in.

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  • Veganlady said:
    Good morning ladies!

    VeganLady - Good luck on your monitoring appointment! I’m crossing everything that you body is playing nice and did not O early.

    Thank goodness, it is playing nice! I am not ripe yet. I was just going to post to thank you and @pinkcamino and @myfirstraspberry for helping to calm my crazy yesterday. Today started off with a nice low temp, perfectly in line with previous cycles' pre-O temps. At the RE I had "a lot" of follies on the right and "a few" follies on the left. She measured the largest 2 on each side and they were all between 14-15, one almost 15. Lining was at 8. I think all of these measurements are milimeters?

    The nurse is going to report back to the RE and email me with the plan. It'll likely be trigger on Monday and go in for US/IUI Tuesday/Wednesday, or just go in for US on Tuesday to take a look and plan from there. Either way, DH will be home in ample time to participate. *whew!*

    I'm excited for you, starting fresh in a new place is so fun! I love to explore. I hope Yelp has got a robust set of recommendations for you in your new hood.
    :::lurking:::

    I'm so glad to hear that all is well @Veganlady!! It sounds like you are responding well to Clomid. I was thinking about you this morning wondering what the results of your appt would be. Thanks for letting me know.

    :::stepping back out of AMA:::   carry on ladies, carry on...

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    Current Status:  IVF with ICSI and PGS
    Genetic, RPL, SA and Fertility testing = Normal/Good
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    BFP #1 12.30.2012  ||  Blighted Ovum 02.05.2013  ||  D&C 02.11.2013
    BFP #2 09.10.2013  ||  c/p 09.12.2013

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    May 2014:  Residual HCG and retained tissue found
    05.13.2014:  Hysteroscopy D&C to find and remove retained tissue
    June 2014:  Tissue sample results indicate a partial molar pregnancy
    May - Aug 2014:   TTA for monitoring and testing
    08.21.2014:  Hysteroscopy to remove minor scar tissue - the result of 3 D&Cs
    Sept/Oct: IUI #1  Femara + Bravelle + Ovidrel = BFN
    Oct/Nov: IUI #2  Femara + Ovidrel = BFN
    Nov/Dec: IUI #3  Femara + Bravelle + Ovidrel = BFN

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  • Thanks buggirl and congrats to
    @junebug060609.

    Buggirl you really do pay attention. I post so much more on TTGP so much more than here.

    I'm proud of my son that he was able to go back to class but when I picked him up from school he didn't want to talk about it and he just sat there shuffling cards over and over again. When I got home I cried my eyes out. I worry so much about him and its not his fault and I have to be strong for him but its really getting to me. I feel like I'm a prisoner in my home waiting for the phone to ring. I really don't know of any support groups. I've thought that maybe I need to go back to therapy and get back on my anti depressants because I'm struggling. Tonight I'm crossing my fingers that my son goes to the show with friends so my husband and I can go to dinner. I REALLY need to get away .... And wine would be awesome!

    This year has really sucked for me. I had surgery the first of April, 5 weeks later I found out I was pregnant. I spent the next 6 weeks on and off bed rest because I was spotting. Then I had a MC, and my body went crazy with all my muscles and my meniers. Then my son has his problems which is still an on going thing. I also had athletes foot which I treated forever and it spread all over my body, finally the dermatologist put me on lotrimin pills. I'm almost done with the rx and my foot is better but my body is worse. My husband swears its psoriasis so I'm going back next week. She scraped my foot but no spots on my body so he thinks they are totally unrelated(welcome to my world). I tried to start running this week for stress relief but my muscles, feet, and ear HATES me. I'm in so much pain everyday and no one knows why yet. I'm still going to the gym anyway and pushing through it because I've got to get out of this funk I'm in. I just can't seem to catch a break!!!

    I'm sorry its kinda long. I guess I needed to vent.

    GTKY: don't have a weekend that sticks out but I have a night. On my 31st bday I took my boys to the circus for their first time. They loved it. My youngest feel asleep on the way home when I picked him up he told me "thank you so much, this was the best night ever"
    Fucking bump!!!!
  • Thanks buggirl and congrats to @junebug060609. Buggirl you really do pay attention. I post so much more on TTGP so much more than here. I'm proud of my son that he was able to go back to class but when I picked him up from school he didn't want to talk about it and he just sat there shuffling cards over and over again. When I got home I cried my eyes out. I worry so much about him and its not his fault and I have to be strong for him but its really getting to me. I feel like I'm a prisoner in my home waiting for the phone to ring. I really don't know of any support groups. I've thought that maybe I need to go back to therapy and get back on my anti depressants because I'm struggling. Tonight I'm crossing my fingers that my son goes to the show with friends so my husband and I can go to dinner. I REALLY need to get away .... And wine would be awesome! This year has really sucked for me. I had surgery the first of April, 5 weeks later I found out I was pregnant. I spent the next 6 weeks on and off bed rest because I was spotting. Then I had a MC, and my body went crazy with all my muscles and my meniers. Then my son has his problems which is still an on going thing. I also had athletes foot which I treated forever and it spread all over my body, finally the dermatologist put me on lotrimin pills. I'm almost done with the rx and my foot is better but my body is worse. My husband swears its psoriasis so I'm going back next week. She scraped my foot but no spots on my body so he thinks they are totally unrelated(welcome to my world). I tried to start running this week for stress relief but my muscles, feet, and ear HATES me. I'm in so much pain everyday and no one knows why yet. I'm still going to the gym anyway and pushing through it because I've got to get out of this funk I'm in. I just can't seem to catch a break!!! I'm sorry its kinda long. I guess I needed to vent. GTKY: don't have a weekend that sticks out but I have a night. On my 31st bday I took my boys to the circus for their first time. They loved it. My youngest feel asleep on the way home when I picked him up he told me "thank you so much, this was the best night ever"
    ((Hugs)) I'm sorry for all you've been going through!!


         

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    Daughter from previous marriage: 20

    BFP 12/19/12: Ectopic discovered at 8 weeks, right tube removed 01/18/13
    June 2013 Testing Results: Progesterone: 31.7, LH: 5, FSH: 5, Estradiol: 161
    Clomid cycles Nov. 2013 and Jan, Feb, and March 2014

    TTC journey over as of the end of October 2014

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  • @pintobean39 - Therapy may be a good idea for you. You have been hit by a lot this year and have so much stress on top of the "normal" TTCAL stress.

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  • Congrats Junebug, everything is crossed for you!! ((hugs))

    I'm doing ok, got through yesterday's EDD better than expected so that's good - thanks again to you Buggirl and all other ladies for the extra hugs yesterday, it was so very much appreciated!

    My 40th birthday is in just over a week, and while I'm not upset about turning 40 per se, I never did think I'd be TTC at this age and I'm finding that a bit daunting.  Hubby has apologized numerous times for not making the commitment to sell his house and move to my town and marry me much sooner (we met five years ago when I was almost 36, but it took us four years to live together in the same town and get married).  We knew years ago we wanted to get married and have kids, but didn't want to TTC until we were together, and now he's feeling guilty that his waiting this long has screwed our chances.  I keep telling him it is what it is and we can't go back, nor can we know if we would have had any better luck earlier, so there's no use placing blame on anyone or feeling guilty.  But he still feels bad, and I feel bad for him.  :(

    At any rate, I'm clinging to the hope of the OB appointment we have scheduled in October despite being nervous about what might be our path going forward.  I'm pretty sure nothing is going to happen for us without some sort of medical intervention; yes, several cycles we've had the crappiest timing due to travel during FW, but we've also had just as many months with perfect timing, plus my excessive spotting throughout most or all of my LP is a huge concern of mine.  I guess I just want to see what options might be available to us, at this point I'm going through the motions of charting, temping, etc. but not feeling particularly hopeful anymore.  Although low expectations lead to less spectacular emotional crashes when a cycle ends with AF, so that's something! ;)

    Wow, I'm sorry this turned into such a long ranty vent.  Thanks for letting me get it all out!  >:D<


         

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    Daughter from previous marriage: 20

    BFP 12/19/12: Ectopic discovered at 8 weeks, right tube removed 01/18/13
    June 2013 Testing Results: Progesterone: 31.7, LH: 5, FSH: 5, Estradiol: 161
    Clomid cycles Nov. 2013 and Jan, Feb, and March 2014

    TTC journey over as of the end of October 2014

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  • gscoville said:

    Congrats Junebug, everything is crossed for you!! ((hugs))

    I'm doing ok, got through yesterday's EDD better than expected so that's good - thanks again to you Buggirl and all other ladies for the extra hugs yesterday, it was so very much appreciated!

    My 40th birthday is in just over a week, and while I'm not upset about turning 40 per se, I never did think I'd be TTC at this age and I'm finding that a bit daunting.  Hubby has apologized numerous times for not making the commitment to sell his house and move to my town and marry me much sooner (we met five years ago when I was almost 36, but it took us four years to live together in the same town and get married).  We knew years ago we wanted to get married and have kids, but didn't want to TTC until we were together, and now he's feeling guilty that his waiting this long has screwed our chances.  I keep telling him it is what it is and we can't go back, nor can we know if we would have had any better luck earlier, so there's no use placing blame on anyone or feeling guilty.  But he still feels bad, and I feel bad for him.  :(

    At any rate, I'm clinging to the hope of the OB appointment we have scheduled in October despite being nervous about what might be our path going forward.  I'm pretty sure nothing is going to happen for us without some sort of medical intervention; yes, several cycles we've had the crappiest timing due to travel during FW, but we've also had just as many months with perfect timing, plus my excessive spotting throughout most or all of my LP is a huge concern of mine.  I guess I just want to see what options might be available to us, at this point I'm going through the motions of charting, temping, etc. but not feeling particularly hopeful anymore.  Although low expectations lead to less spectacular emotional crashes when a cycle ends with AF, so that's something! ;)

    Wow, I'm sorry this turned into such a long ranty vent.  Thanks for letting me get it all out!  >:D<

    (((Hugs))) to both you and your DH. I'm sorry he is feeling guilty about not moving sooner but you are absolutely right that you cannot go back and change it.  My H and I started dating when I was 36 also. Even though I had an IF diagnosis and was pretty confident I could never get pg, he was worried. It was after we got engaged (right before my 38th birthday) that he relaxed and did not worry about if I got KTFU.  The cycle that I got pg the first time was the only cycle that I really thought, "wow, if I could get pg we timed that really well". I look back now and wonder if it would have been different if we had actually tried - but, we can't roll back the clock.

    I'm also feeling far less than hopeful at this point. I'm glad we get the opportunity to TTC but I can also tell that I'm starting to come to terms with the fact that this will probably not work out - and also starting to think about when the right time to stop will be - but I think my body will end up demanding that before I emotionally do.

    And darn it! I want your docs to figure out why you are spotting!

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  • Hi bug! Missed you ladies! Congrats Junebug!! ashellypnut - Hey pretty lady! Your chart looks like you are trying to sneak in an early O based on that super low temp drop. Yeah WTF?! I'm not sure what's going on with that. We drove overnight to Toronto (8 1/2 hours) and I slept from 8am-11am. I'm wondering if being sleep deprived had anything to do with my temp. I hope I didn't O early! That would suck :( hope you are well. xoxo from Toronto!

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    Me: 38, DH: 40 | Married April 2012 | TTC since October 2012  

    DX: Hypothyroid, DOR, Right Tube Blocked, Uterine Fibroid (awaiting hysteroscopy) | DH: Beta Thal Minor, ED (Cialis)

    OCT - DEC 2012 | TI | BFN

    JAN 2013 | BFP ~ EDD 9/23/13

    MAR 2013 | MMC due to Trisomy 10 ~ D&E MAR. 8

    APR - JUN 2013 | TTA

    JUL - NOV 2013 | TI |  BFN

    NOV 2013 | HSG & SHG ~ Right Tube Blocked & "Thickening" of Uterus

    DEC 2013 - JAN 2014 | NTNP |  BFN ~ Switched to new practice

    JAN - FEB 2014 | 3-D u/s & SHG ~ Uterine Fibroid ~ Awaiting Hysteroscopy

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  • Hi Bug & Other lovely ladies!  Congrats Junebug!!!!
    I just had my first baseline today and start BCP today.  My AFC was amazing compared to the last two!  Now if only Freedom Fertility pharmacy would get their head out of their ass and stop messing with my life by worrying this hormonal woman I'd be happy but I swear the guy I'm dealing with it just pissing me off hardcore.  
    QOTW:  I can't think of any specific weekend right now.

    TTC since July 2009. Dx MFI & LPD. 
    IUI#1&2&3 (2011 & 2012) BFN
    IUI#4 1/23/13 on 75iu x9 Follistim = BFP then chem preg m/c (Feb 2013)
    IUI#5 BFN (April 2013)
    IVF w/ICSI Oct. 2, 2012 - 13R, 11M, 7F, 1 frozen blast 4BB grade - - - FET Nov 15, 2013
    BFP! Beta 1:104 @ 10dp6dt, Beta 2:178 @ 12dp6dt,  beta 3:366 @ 14dp6dt
    Saw heartbeat twice before missed M/C at 8w3d on 12/27/13, missing my little angel boy
    JUNE 2014 IVF#2;  5R, 2M, 1F Three day transfer 6/7.  Beta 6/18 - BFN
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  • Another BFFN this morning at 14pdiui so I am just waiting for AF. I wish it would just get here already.  I feel stupid for feeling totally crushed given that the chance of success was so small, but I am. I'm guessing we will do the same thing next cycle, but I have not talked to my doc.

    I do have a question.  Should I be pushing for a HSG? I've had a saline ultrasound which was totally normal. I'm going to ask my doctor, but I'm guessing he is going to tell me that I don't need it given that I have gotten pregnant twice (the first time I got pregnant the first month we tried, but it took us 6 or 7 months to get our second). Should I push it? Honestly, the thought of radiation on my already fucked up ovaries and eggs doesn't sound so great. Thoughts?

    Warning: pity party ahead (Seriously, folks, feel free to stop reading. What follows isn't pretty, but I just need to vent it out a bit).

    I'm really tired of this. You would think having just come off the bench for 6 months that I would have more energy or excitement about TTCAL. I don't.  Those 6 months were fraught with stress over possibly developing cancer and simultaneously obsessively worrying about my ovaries shriveling up.

    If I could take a break, I would, but I can't if I want any shot of having a baby. @buggirl72 you have posted elsewhere about fearing that you only have a limited number of cycles left. Considering that my AMH dropped nearly in half over the last 6 months, I totally get it.  Being AMA with DOR sucks balls.

    Also, while I'm venting, I feel positively ancient. I'm turning 36 in September (this was my last chance to get KTFU before my birthday). Rationally, I know that is not *that* old, but, fuck, the AMA and the DOR and the fears about perimenopause make me feel so damn old. It is really messing with my head.

    Ugh. Sorry guys, this got long and I'm just in a shitty head space. CD1 will eventually show up, I'll suck it up, and we will move on. Thanks for letting me vent a bit.
    Me: 36 yo, TTC #1 since Feb. 2012
    BFP #1, 3/12, EDD 11/9/12, MMC 3/27/12, D&C 4/10/12

    BFP #2: 11/16/12, EDD 7/25/13, MMC 12/5/12, D&C 12/6/12, Complete molar pregnancy confirmed 2/9/13, benched for 6 months until  August 2013

    IUI #1, 8/16/13 Femara + Menopur, 3 mature follicles, BFN
    IUI #2 (back-to-back, 9/12/13 and 9/13/13) Femara + Menopur, four mature follicles, BFFN
    IUI #3, 10/8/13 Femara + Menopur, six mature follicles, BFN

    BFP #3, 12/9/2013, while on treatment break, EDD: 8/22/2014  Please stick and grow, LO!

    Additional Dx: hypothyroidism, TgAb positive & anti-TPO positive, POR/DOR (2/2013), and suspected endometriosis

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  • Veganlady said:

    Thank goodness, it is playing nice! I am not ripe yet. I was just going to post to thank you and @pinkcamino and @myfirstraspberry for helping to calm my crazy yesterday. Today started off with a nice low temp, perfectly in line with previous cycles' pre-O temps. At the RE I had "a lot" of follies on the right and "a few" follies on the left. She measured the largest 2 on each side and they were all between 14-15, one almost 15. Lining was at 8. I think all of these measurements are milimeters?

    The nurse is going to report back to the RE and email me with the plan. It'll likely be trigger on Monday and go in for US/IUI Tuesday/Wednesday, or just go in for US on Tuesday to take a look and plan from there. Either way, DH will be home in ample time to participate. *whew!*

    This sounds fantastic!  Your lining sounds awesome for that early as well and your follicle numbers look on track for some action early next week. I am so hopeful for you. xoxo
    Me: 36 yo, TTC #1 since Feb. 2012
    BFP #1, 3/12, EDD 11/9/12, MMC 3/27/12, D&C 4/10/12

    BFP #2: 11/16/12, EDD 7/25/13, MMC 12/5/12, D&C 12/6/12, Complete molar pregnancy confirmed 2/9/13, benched for 6 months until  August 2013

    IUI #1, 8/16/13 Femara + Menopur, 3 mature follicles, BFN
    IUI #2 (back-to-back, 9/12/13 and 9/13/13) Femara + Menopur, four mature follicles, BFFN
    IUI #3, 10/8/13 Femara + Menopur, six mature follicles, BFN

    BFP #3, 12/9/2013, while on treatment break, EDD: 8/22/2014  Please stick and grow, LO!

    Additional Dx: hypothyroidism, TgAb positive & anti-TPO positive, POR/DOR (2/2013), and suspected endometriosis

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  • @pintobean79 Huge ((((hugs)))). I am so sorry that you have been put through so much in the last year. I can't imagine having as much on my plate as you do without going to therapy! I'm a big believer in therapy and feel that nearly everyone could benefit. If you don't have a therapist that you like, I would suggest looking for a licensed clinical social worker, rather that a psychiatrist or psychologist, in my experience they offer a more holistic experience and understand more about family dynamics, etc. 
    Me: 36 yo, TTC #1 since Feb. 2012
    BFP #1, 3/12, EDD 11/9/12, MMC 3/27/12, D&C 4/10/12

    BFP #2: 11/16/12, EDD 7/25/13, MMC 12/5/12, D&C 12/6/12, Complete molar pregnancy confirmed 2/9/13, benched for 6 months until  August 2013

    IUI #1, 8/16/13 Femara + Menopur, 3 mature follicles, BFN
    IUI #2 (back-to-back, 9/12/13 and 9/13/13) Femara + Menopur, four mature follicles, BFFN
    IUI #3, 10/8/13 Femara + Menopur, six mature follicles, BFN

    BFP #3, 12/9/2013, while on treatment break, EDD: 8/22/2014  Please stick and grow, LO!

    Additional Dx: hypothyroidism, TgAb positive & anti-TPO positive, POR/DOR (2/2013), and suspected endometriosis

    ******All AL always welcome******
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  • ball.and.chain - How is your foot doing and how long do you have to be on crutches? As a kid, I always thought it would be cool to have crutches. I now know how stupid of a kid I was.

    Ha -- I thought crutches would be fun too when I was a kid! Turns out they are not. But I'm getting better at them and everything is getting easier as I adjust. I think I'll be on them 2-3 weeks, then I have an ortho appointment and he might take me off them. FX!

    QOTW: After my wife and I got married, we moved to CA from MA. We used up all our vacation time with our honeymoon and the move, so it was months before we were able to take a day off. We were exhausted from the move, I was working FT and in school PT, and by the time we had earned a day off, we were totally depleted. We went up to Sonoma County for a long weekend. It poured most of the weekend but we had a fireplace and hot tub in our room, we spent the whole first day at the spa, ate some amazing food, and when the rain br
    oke we went wine tasting and there were rainbows in the hills. Don't know if it was the best weekend ever but definitely a contender!

    (((HUGS))) Pintobean! I'm sorry you're struggling.

    Happy early birthday gscoville!
    Married my wife 8/2007 ~ TTC #1 since 7/2011
    9 IUIs = 9 BFNs
    IVF October 2012: 22 eggs retrieved, 17 fertilized, 5 frozen
    ET #1: 1 blast = BFP; Blighted ovum discovered at 7w5d; D&E
    FET #1: 1 blast = BFP; Missed m/c discovered at 9w5d; D&E
    Karyotyping: normal ~ RPL Testing: normal ~ Hysteroscopy: normal
    FET #2: 1 blast transferred 10/25; BFP 10/31!
    EDD 7/13/14 ~ Induced at 37w4d due to pre-eclampsia ~ Born on 6/28/14
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  • Another BFFN this morning at 14pdiui so I am just waiting for AF. I wish it would just get here already.  I feel stupid for feeling totally crushed given that the chance of success was so small, but I am. I'm guessing we will do the same thing next cycle, but I have not talked to my doc.

    I do have a question.  Should I be pushing for a HSG? I've had a saline ultrasound which was totally normal. I'm going to ask my doctor, but I'm guessing he is going to tell me that I don't need it given that I have gotten pregnant twice (the first time I got pregnant the first month we tried, but it took us 6 or 7 months to get our second). Should I push it? Honestly, the thought of radiation on my already fucked up ovaries and eggs doesn't sound so great. Thoughts?

    Warning: pity party ahead (Seriously, folks, feel free to stop reading. What follows isn't pretty, but I just need to vent it out a bit).

    I'm really tired of this. You would think having just come off the bench for 6 months that I would have more energy or excitement about TTCAL. I don't.  Those 6 months were fraught with stress over possibly developing cancer and simultaneously obsessively worrying about my ovaries shriveling up.

    If I could take a break, I would, but I can't if I want any shot of having a baby. @buggirl72 you have posted elsewhere about fearing that you only have a limited number of cycles left. Considering that my AMH dropped nearly in half over the last 6 months, I totally get it.  Being AMA with DOR sucks balls.

    Also, while I'm venting, I feel positively ancient. I'm turning 36 in September (this was my last chance to get KTFU before my birthday). Rationally, I know that is not *that* old, but, fuck, the AMA and the DOR and the fears about perimenopause make me feel so damn old. It is really messing with my head.

    Ugh. Sorry guys, this got long and I'm just in a shitty head space. CD1 will eventually show up, I'll suck it up, and we will move on. Thanks for letting me vent a bit.

    I know just how you're feeling about all of this age-related crap, and just want to offer you big squishy ((((hugs))))


         

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    Married August 2012. Me: 41  DH: 42 
    Daughter from previous marriage: 20

    BFP 12/19/12: Ectopic discovered at 8 weeks, right tube removed 01/18/13
    June 2013 Testing Results: Progesterone: 31.7, LH: 5, FSH: 5, Estradiol: 161
    Clomid cycles Nov. 2013 and Jan, Feb, and March 2014

    TTC journey over as of the end of October 2014

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    All ALers welcome!


  • I do have a question.  Should I be pushing for a HSG? I've had a saline ultrasound which was totally normal. I'm going to ask my doctor, but I'm guessing he is going to tell me that I don't need it given that I have gotten pregnant twice (the first time I got pregnant the first month we tried, but it took us 6 or 7 months to get our second). Should I push it? Honestly, the thought of radiation on my already fucked up ovaries and eggs doesn't sound so great. Thoughts?

    Also, while I'm venting, I feel positively ancient. I'm turning 36 in September (this was my last chance to get KTFU before my birthday). Rationally, I know that is not *that* old, but, fuck, the AMA and the DOR and the fears about perimenopause make me feel so damn old. It is really messing with my head.

    I'm not sure about the HSG.  I tend to say it's better to have all the diagnostic tests rather than hope they are OK, though it's true that if you've been pregnant twice it would seem that there aren't any tubal issues.  You could have a blockage on one side, which again wouldn't prevent you from getting pregnant in the future but could further reduce your chances.  Is IVF an option?  I forget.  That is really the only way to bypass the tubal issue if you do have one, so if it isn't an option it might not matter whether or not you get an HSG.  I think you're on injects now, right?  So if you are responding decently to them, you might be able to get a decent response during an IVF cycle too.

    I hear you about the birthdays.  We started TTC when I was 33 and I thought I'd have my first kid before I was 35 so I could take a few years off before having #2.  Well now I will be delivering at 36 at the absolute earliest, and taking a few years off before #2 -- if we can even make #2 happen -- seems insane given how hard #1 has been.  Getting older doesn't bother me THAT much on its own, but these days it just underscores what a failure TTC has been.  FU, birthdays!  You are still on the young side of AMA, although I know as far as fertility goes the DOR piece is probably more important.

    FX we'll soon be elderly mommies together.
    Married my wife 8/2007 ~ TTC #1 since 7/2011
    9 IUIs = 9 BFNs
    IVF October 2012: 22 eggs retrieved, 17 fertilized, 5 frozen
    ET #1: 1 blast = BFP; Blighted ovum discovered at 7w5d; D&E
    FET #1: 1 blast = BFP; Missed m/c discovered at 9w5d; D&E
    Karyotyping: normal ~ RPL Testing: normal ~ Hysteroscopy: normal
    FET #2: 1 blast transferred 10/25; BFP 10/31!
    EDD 7/13/14 ~ Induced at 37w4d due to pre-eclampsia ~ Born on 6/28/14
    *Everyone welcome*

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  • What exactly is a saline sonogram and does it also look to make sure your tubes are clear? If so, what would the advantage of also doing an HSG be? If I am just clueless, which is entirely possible about what a saline sono is, then you can ignore this question.

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    TTC since July 2012 Me(42): normal HSG low progesterone 2.5 and TSH 13.9 DH(41): normal SA
    • 10 cycles no meds, July 2012 -March 2013: BFN
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    • Cycle 12 Chlomid but canceled IUI so only TI BFN
    • Cycle 13 - On break from meds - suprise BFP - ended in CP June 11, 2013
    • Cycle 14 - TTA BFN
    • Cycle 15 - 17 - Break from meds and doctor, trying on own BFN
    • Cycle 18 Chlomid and TI BFN
    • Cycle 19 BFN ...  onto Cycle 20
    • .........
    • Cycle I have no fricken clue anymore but still BFN
  • clh4444 said:
    What exactly is a saline sonogram and does it also look to make sure your tubes are clear? If so, what would the advantage of also doing an HSG be? If I am just clueless, which is entirely possible about what a saline sono is, then you can ignore this question.
    Saline sonogram is when they put a catheter into your uterus, inject a little saline and then perform an ultrasound. It can determine abnormalities in the uterus. It does not look at your tubes at all.
    Me: 36 yo, TTC #1 since Feb. 2012
    BFP #1, 3/12, EDD 11/9/12, MMC 3/27/12, D&C 4/10/12

    BFP #2: 11/16/12, EDD 7/25/13, MMC 12/5/12, D&C 12/6/12, Complete molar pregnancy confirmed 2/9/13, benched for 6 months until  August 2013

    IUI #1, 8/16/13 Femara + Menopur, 3 mature follicles, BFN
    IUI #2 (back-to-back, 9/12/13 and 9/13/13) Femara + Menopur, four mature follicles, BFFN
    IUI #3, 10/8/13 Femara + Menopur, six mature follicles, BFN

    BFP #3, 12/9/2013, while on treatment break, EDD: 8/22/2014  Please stick and grow, LO!

    Additional Dx: hypothyroidism, TgAb positive & anti-TPO positive, POR/DOR (2/2013), and suspected endometriosis

    ******All AL always welcome******
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  • @MsAmandaPants - I remember my first cycle TTCAL and how crushing the failure was. I can only imagine how bad that is while you're also staring down the barrel of DOR. That just sucks so bad. I wish ehugs could make it better.

    If you've gotten pregnant twice, then it stands to reason at least one tube is clear. Any other morphology stuff would have been visible in the saline sono, no? I've heard gals with blockages report that their saline or HSG exams were painful when the fluids were pushed in. Did you have any of that? And ball.and.chain makes a good point that if you're not going to consider IVF, then the question is a bit moot.


    Thank, love. This isn't my first cycle TTCAL, just the first medicated one. We are ultimately considering IVF, which may make it a moot point, but plan to do at least one or two more IUIs.   My saline sono and my IUI were both somewhat painful, but nothing beyond what I think you would expect. Also? Why did I not think of this HSG stuff while I was sitting on the bench for six months? I feel like an idiot. 
    Me: 36 yo, TTC #1 since Feb. 2012
    BFP #1, 3/12, EDD 11/9/12, MMC 3/27/12, D&C 4/10/12

    BFP #2: 11/16/12, EDD 7/25/13, MMC 12/5/12, D&C 12/6/12, Complete molar pregnancy confirmed 2/9/13, benched for 6 months until  August 2013

    IUI #1, 8/16/13 Femara + Menopur, 3 mature follicles, BFN
    IUI #2 (back-to-back, 9/12/13 and 9/13/13) Femara + Menopur, four mature follicles, BFFN
    IUI #3, 10/8/13 Femara + Menopur, six mature follicles, BFN

    BFP #3, 12/9/2013, while on treatment break, EDD: 8/22/2014  Please stick and grow, LO!

    Additional Dx: hypothyroidism, TgAb positive & anti-TPO positive, POR/DOR (2/2013), and suspected endometriosis

    ******All AL always welcome******
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  • I do have a question.  Should I be pushing for a HSG? I've had a saline ultrasound which was totally normal. I'm going to ask my doctor, but I'm guessing he is going to tell me that I don't need it given that I have gotten pregnant twice (the first time I got pregnant the first month we tried, but it took us 6 or 7 months to get our second). Should I push it? Honestly, the thought of radiation on my already fucked up ovaries and eggs doesn't sound so great. Thoughts?

    Also, while I'm venting, I feel positively ancient. I'm turning 36 in September (this was my last chance to get KTFU before my birthday). Rationally, I know that is not *that* old, but, fuck, the AMA and the DOR and the fears about perimenopause make me feel so damn old. It is really messing with my head.

    I'm not sure about the HSG.  I tend to say it's better to have all the diagnostic tests rather than hope they are OK, though it's true that if you've been pregnant twice it would seem that there aren't any tubal issues.  You could have a blockage on one side, which again wouldn't prevent you from getting pregnant in the future but could further reduce your chances.  Is IVF an option?  I forget.  That is really the only way to bypass the tubal issue if you do have one, so if it isn't an option it might not matter whether or not you get an HSG.  I think you're on injects now, right?  So if you are responding decently to them, you might be able to get a decent response during an IVF cycle too.

    I hear you about the birthdays.  We started TTC when I was 33 and I thought I'd have my first kid before I was 35 so I could take a few years off before having #2.  Well now I will be delivering at 36 at the absolute earliest, and taking a few years off before #2 -- if we can even make #2 happen -- seems insane given how hard #1 has been.  Getting older doesn't bother me THAT much on its own, but these days it just underscores what a failure TTC has been.  FU, birthdays!  You are still on the young side of AMA, although I know as far as fertility goes the DOR piece is probably more important.

    FX we'll soon be elderly mommies together.
    Thanks lady. We are on the same plan. I started at 33 just like you with similarly naive expectations. I like the plan of being elderly mommies together :)

    Also? Your weekend sounds like absolute perfection!
    Me: 36 yo, TTC #1 since Feb. 2012
    BFP #1, 3/12, EDD 11/9/12, MMC 3/27/12, D&C 4/10/12

    BFP #2: 11/16/12, EDD 7/25/13, MMC 12/5/12, D&C 12/6/12, Complete molar pregnancy confirmed 2/9/13, benched for 6 months until  August 2013

    IUI #1, 8/16/13 Femara + Menopur, 3 mature follicles, BFN
    IUI #2 (back-to-back, 9/12/13 and 9/13/13) Femara + Menopur, four mature follicles, BFFN
    IUI #3, 10/8/13 Femara + Menopur, six mature follicles, BFN

    BFP #3, 12/9/2013, while on treatment break, EDD: 8/22/2014  Please stick and grow, LO!

    Additional Dx: hypothyroidism, TgAb positive & anti-TPO positive, POR/DOR (2/2013), and suspected endometriosis

    ******All AL always welcome******
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  • HUGE congrats to Junebug060609!! I always love seeing TTCAL members move on, but somehow it's even more so when a check in buddy has success. FX all goes well and you have a very H&H 9 months!

    buggirl-as usual, thank you for running this check in! Lots of luck to you on your move! I often think about the idea of moving someplace totally new to us, but I just don't know if I can! Also sending you ((hugs)). This journey is difficult and can be such an emotional roller coaster.

    Eliz77 - I saw on your IUI question post that you decided to do four natural cycles and then move on to IUI. I’m glad you have a plan moving forward that you are happy with.
    Yes, I am pretty comfortable with my plan. I had hope the RE would give me a plan herself, but she really didn't. Had she said she thought we needed to move on to medicated cycles or IUI or whatever, I would be more anxious about what to do. So, I hope the fact she was rather nonchalant means it's OK to try a few more natural cycles. 

    Just hard to get a straight answer...I know our timing has been good and H's sperm is good, so not really sure IUI would offer much more. I'm sure my age and low AMH has more to do with things than anything else.

    Question of the Week:  Tell me about the best weekend you ever had.

    Hmm...tough one! I would say with H, it was a weekend in Key West...so relaxing, great food and mostly free (thanks to our awesome boss at the time)!

    ~ES~

    ~*~EVERYONE always welcome!!~*~
    TTC #1 since October 2012
    BFP #1 11/22/12 EDD 7/29/13 MMC 1/14/13, D&C 1/16/13
    BFP #2 5/7/13 EDD 1/14/2014 Ectopic discovered 5/21/13, lost left tube
    Referred to RE, blood work done August 2013, AMH 0.27, all else normal, HSG clear
    BFP #3 12/1/13 EDD 8/8/14, MC 12/24/13
    January 2014: RE #2, blood work repeated, homozygous MTHFR c677t, SHG clear
    BFP #4 4/7/14 EDD 12/15/14 Our rainbow was born 12/6/14 at 4:26pm! <3 


  • Veganlady said:
    Oh, I was thinking this was the first since the benching. The HSG might be a good idea if IVF is on the table. If there are blockages, you'd be able to skip the remaining IUIs and go to IVF sooner before the AMH number changes any more.
    Oh, sorry, duh, it is. I wasn't following what you were saying.
    Me: 36 yo, TTC #1 since Feb. 2012
    BFP #1, 3/12, EDD 11/9/12, MMC 3/27/12, D&C 4/10/12

    BFP #2: 11/16/12, EDD 7/25/13, MMC 12/5/12, D&C 12/6/12, Complete molar pregnancy confirmed 2/9/13, benched for 6 months until  August 2013

    IUI #1, 8/16/13 Femara + Menopur, 3 mature follicles, BFN
    IUI #2 (back-to-back, 9/12/13 and 9/13/13) Femara + Menopur, four mature follicles, BFFN
    IUI #3, 10/8/13 Femara + Menopur, six mature follicles, BFN

    BFP #3, 12/9/2013, while on treatment break, EDD: 8/22/2014  Please stick and grow, LO!

    Additional Dx: hypothyroidism, TgAb positive & anti-TPO positive, POR/DOR (2/2013), and suspected endometriosis

    ******All AL always welcome******
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  • Eliz77 said:
    Yes, I am pretty comfortable with my plan. I had hope the RE would give me a plan herself, but she really didn't. Had she said she thought we needed to move on to medicated cycles or IUI or whatever, I would be more anxious about what to do. So, I hope the fact she was rather nonchalant means it's OK to try a few more natural cycles. 

    Just hard to get a straight answer...I know our timing has been good and H's sperm is good, so not really sure IUI would offer much more. I'm sure my age and low AMH has more to do with things than anything else.

    It is so hard to know what to do when our RE's won't help by giving clear recommendations. It sounds like you have a plan you are comfortable with moving forward. Good luck!
    Me: 36 yo, TTC #1 since Feb. 2012
    BFP #1, 3/12, EDD 11/9/12, MMC 3/27/12, D&C 4/10/12

    BFP #2: 11/16/12, EDD 7/25/13, MMC 12/5/12, D&C 12/6/12, Complete molar pregnancy confirmed 2/9/13, benched for 6 months until  August 2013

    IUI #1, 8/16/13 Femara + Menopur, 3 mature follicles, BFN
    IUI #2 (back-to-back, 9/12/13 and 9/13/13) Femara + Menopur, four mature follicles, BFFN
    IUI #3, 10/8/13 Femara + Menopur, six mature follicles, BFN

    BFP #3, 12/9/2013, while on treatment break, EDD: 8/22/2014  Please stick and grow, LO!

    Additional Dx: hypothyroidism, TgAb positive & anti-TPO positive, POR/DOR (2/2013), and suspected endometriosis

    ******All AL always welcome******
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  • @MsAmandaPants I know you probably already told me, but what are your FSH levels? I called my Dr office today to get my Prolactin levels (the NP I spoke with said,"Looks OK, nothing abnormal.") and I asked her about the low AMH. She said since my FSH is good, the Dr takes both results and my age into consideration and that is why my AMH was considered "in range." Said something like ideal would be both of "reassuring values", second best is FSH of "reassuring values" and AMH of "concerning values." 

    Who knows. I'm just going to move forward as is on that note, and if nothing good comes of it by Dec, move on. I may talk to another RE a friend recommended in case I decide to get a 2nd opinion. I just don't have a feel on this Dr office, if I like/trust them. No real reason, just unsure.

    ~ES~

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    TTC #1 since October 2012
    BFP #1 11/22/12 EDD 7/29/13 MMC 1/14/13, D&C 1/16/13
    BFP #2 5/7/13 EDD 1/14/2014 Ectopic discovered 5/21/13, lost left tube
    Referred to RE, blood work done August 2013, AMH 0.27, all else normal, HSG clear
    BFP #3 12/1/13 EDD 8/8/14, MC 12/24/13
    January 2014: RE #2, blood work repeated, homozygous MTHFR c677t, SHG clear
    BFP #4 4/7/14 EDD 12/15/14 Our rainbow was born 12/6/14 at 4:26pm! <3 



  • Eliz77 said:
    @MsAmandaPants I know you probably already told me, but what are your FSH levels? I called my Dr office today to get my Prolactin levels (the NP I spoke with said,"Looks OK, nothing abnormal.") and I asked her about the low AMH. She said since my FSH is good, the Dr takes both results and my age into consideration and that is why my AMH was considered "in range." Said something like ideal would be both of "reassuring values", second best is FSH of "reassuring values" and AMH of "concerning values." 

    Who knows. I'm just going to move forward as is on that note, and if nothing good comes of it by Dec, move on. I may talk to another RE a friend recommended in case I decide to get a 2nd opinion. I just don't have a feel on this Dr office, if I like/trust them. No real reason, just unsure.
    My FSH is still "normal" at 7.5. However, my doc said that it was the ratio of my FSH to LH that, combined with low AMH, leads to a DOR diagnosis. FSH to LH should be 1:1 (mine isn;t).  Moreover, heightened estradiol can suppress FSH masking DOR, so really it is the whole picture.  

    This is a useful chart that talks about various hormone values throughout your cycle:
    https://www.fertilityplus.com/faq/hormonelevels.html#female
    Me: 36 yo, TTC #1 since Feb. 2012
    BFP #1, 3/12, EDD 11/9/12, MMC 3/27/12, D&C 4/10/12

    BFP #2: 11/16/12, EDD 7/25/13, MMC 12/5/12, D&C 12/6/12, Complete molar pregnancy confirmed 2/9/13, benched for 6 months until  August 2013

    IUI #1, 8/16/13 Femara + Menopur, 3 mature follicles, BFN
    IUI #2 (back-to-back, 9/12/13 and 9/13/13) Femara + Menopur, four mature follicles, BFFN
    IUI #3, 10/8/13 Femara + Menopur, six mature follicles, BFN

    BFP #3, 12/9/2013, while on treatment break, EDD: 8/22/2014  Please stick and grow, LO!

    Additional Dx: hypothyroidism, TgAb positive & anti-TPO positive, POR/DOR (2/2013), and suspected endometriosis

    ******All AL always welcome******
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  • Eliz77 said:
    @MsAmandaPants I know you probably already told me, but what are your FSH levels? I called my Dr office today to get my Prolactin levels (the NP I spoke with said,"Looks OK, nothing abnormal.") and I asked her about the low AMH. She said since my FSH is good, the Dr takes both results and my age into consideration and that is why my AMH was considered "in range." Said something like ideal would be both of "reassuring values", second best is FSH of "reassuring values" and AMH of "concerning values." 

    Who knows. I'm just going to move forward as is on that note, and if nothing good comes of it by Dec, move on. I may talk to another RE a friend recommended in case I decide to get a 2nd opinion. I just don't have a feel on this Dr office, if I like/trust them. No real reason, just unsure.
    My FSH is still "normal" at 7.5. However, my doc said that it was the ratio of my FSH to LH that, combined with low AMH, leads to a DOR diagnosis. FSH to LH should be 1:1 (mine isn;t).  Moreover, heightened estradiol can suppress FSH masking DOR, so really it is the whole picture.  

    This is a useful chart that talks about various hormone values throughout your cycle:
    https://www.fertilityplus.com/faq/hormonelevels.html#female

    This is why I'm so anxious for the OB appointment, I'm assuming he'll be able to interpret my testing results much better than my GP did. My GP said mine were all fine, and on the surface my LH and FSH numbers and ratio look good, they're both 5, but my estradiol at 161 is way high for what I've researched and everything I've seen points to a likelihood of falsely suppressed FSH at those estradiol levels. I just really wish they could have done my AMH as ordered, but apparently it's not easily available up here, something about having to freeze the blood with dry ice and send it to California as it's not a test done at all in Canada, or at least in western Canada. Ugh!


         

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    Married August 2012. Me: 41  DH: 42 
    Daughter from previous marriage: 20

    BFP 12/19/12: Ectopic discovered at 8 weeks, right tube removed 01/18/13
    June 2013 Testing Results: Progesterone: 31.7, LH: 5, FSH: 5, Estradiol: 161
    Clomid cycles Nov. 2013 and Jan, Feb, and March 2014

    TTC journey over as of the end of October 2014

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  • Hi bug! Missed you ladies! Congrats Junebug!! ashellypnut - Hey pretty lady! Your chart looks like you are trying to sneak in an early O based on that super low temp drop. Yeah WTF?! I'm not sure what's going on with that. We drove overnight to Toronto (8 1/2 hours) and I slept from 8am-11am. I'm wondering if being sleep deprived had anything to do with my temp. I hope I didn't O early! That would suck :( hope you are well. xoxo from Toronto!
    The drive and lack of sleep could definitely mess with your temps. You may end up needing to discard that one. Enjoy Toronto!

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  • gscoville said:
    This is why I'm so anxious for the OB appointment, I'm assuming he'll be able to interpret my testing results much better than my GP did. My GP said mine were all fine, and on the surface my LH and FSH numbers and ratio look good, they're both 5, but my estradiol at 161 is way high for what I've researched and everything I've seen points to a likelihood of falsely suppressed FSH at those estradiol levels. I just really wish they could have done my AMH as ordered, but apparently it's not easily available up here, something about having to freeze the blood with dry ice and send it to California as it's not a test done at all in Canada, or at least in western Canada. Ugh!
    I hope your OB can give you a good interpretation of the results.  I'm sorry you can't get the AMH test. On one hand, it is frustrating not to have the best data, but on the other there isn't much you can do about crappy AMH anyway (sometimes I wish I didn't know my number).  Have they done an antral follicle count on you?
    Me: 36 yo, TTC #1 since Feb. 2012
    BFP #1, 3/12, EDD 11/9/12, MMC 3/27/12, D&C 4/10/12

    BFP #2: 11/16/12, EDD 7/25/13, MMC 12/5/12, D&C 12/6/12, Complete molar pregnancy confirmed 2/9/13, benched for 6 months until  August 2013

    IUI #1, 8/16/13 Femara + Menopur, 3 mature follicles, BFN
    IUI #2 (back-to-back, 9/12/13 and 9/13/13) Femara + Menopur, four mature follicles, BFFN
    IUI #3, 10/8/13 Femara + Menopur, six mature follicles, BFN

    BFP #3, 12/9/2013, while on treatment break, EDD: 8/22/2014  Please stick and grow, LO!

    Additional Dx: hypothyroidism, TgAb positive & anti-TPO positive, POR/DOR (2/2013), and suspected endometriosis

    ******All AL always welcome******
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  • katib77 said:
    Hi Bug & Other lovely ladies!  Congrats Junebug!!!!
    I just had my first baseline today and start BCP today.  My AFC was amazing compared to the last two!  Now if only Freedom Fertility pharmacy would get their head out of their ass and stop messing with my life by worrying this hormonal woman I'd be happy but I swear the guy I'm dealing with it just pissing me off hardcore.  
    QOTW:  I can't think of any specific weekend right now.
    Great news on the AFC! FX you get everything straightened out with the pharmacy. Their sense of urgency always seem to be a lot less than what ours is.

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  • Eliz77 said:
    @MsAmandaPants I know you probably already told me, but what are your FSH levels? I called my Dr office today to get my Prolactin levels (the NP I spoke with said,"Looks OK, nothing abnormal.") and I asked her about the low AMH. She said since my FSH is good, the Dr takes both results and my age into consideration and that is why my AMH was considered "in range." Said something like ideal would be both of "reassuring values", second best is FSH of "reassuring values" and AMH of "concerning values." 

    Who knows. I'm just going to move forward as is on that note, and if nothing good comes of it by Dec, move on. I may talk to another RE a friend recommended in case I decide to get a 2nd opinion. I just don't have a feel on this Dr office, if I like/trust them. No real reason, just unsure.
    My FSH is still "normal" at 7.5. However, my doc said that it was the ratio of my FSH to LH that, combined with low AMH, leads to a DOR diagnosis. FSH to LH should be 1:1 (mine isn;t).  Moreover, heightened estradiol can suppress FSH masking DOR, so really it is the whole picture.  

    This is a useful chart that talks about various hormone values throughout your cycle:
    https://www.fertilityplus.com/faq/hormonelevels.html#female
    Gotcha...Mine is 1:1 (FSH 3.7 and LH 3.6). I know the RE was saying how the big picture was all the results in relation to each other when I asked about low AMH numbers, but it was such a quick conversation, and all I/she was focused on was elevated prolactin, I'm sure I missed a few details. Thank you for taking the time to answer my posts!! I still need to look over that chart with H and make sense of it all. Thanks again!

    ~ES~

    ~*~EVERYONE always welcome!!~*~
    TTC #1 since October 2012
    BFP #1 11/22/12 EDD 7/29/13 MMC 1/14/13, D&C 1/16/13
    BFP #2 5/7/13 EDD 1/14/2014 Ectopic discovered 5/21/13, lost left tube
    Referred to RE, blood work done August 2013, AMH 0.27, all else normal, HSG clear
    BFP #3 12/1/13 EDD 8/8/14, MC 12/24/13
    January 2014: RE #2, blood work repeated, homozygous MTHFR c677t, SHG clear
    BFP #4 4/7/14 EDD 12/15/14 Our rainbow was born 12/6/14 at 4:26pm! <3 


  • RN536 said:
    Hi there. Yeah to Junebug. So happy to see a BFP on the AMA board. I am cd 16 and got my positive OPK today. DTD last night and hopefully will continue to do so until sunday . Mom is doing great. Thanks everyone for their T and Ps.
    So glad to hear that your mom is doing great! (((hugs)))
    Me: 36 yo, TTC #1 since Feb. 2012
    BFP #1, 3/12, EDD 11/9/12, MMC 3/27/12, D&C 4/10/12

    BFP #2: 11/16/12, EDD 7/25/13, MMC 12/5/12, D&C 12/6/12, Complete molar pregnancy confirmed 2/9/13, benched for 6 months until  August 2013

    IUI #1, 8/16/13 Femara + Menopur, 3 mature follicles, BFN
    IUI #2 (back-to-back, 9/12/13 and 9/13/13) Femara + Menopur, four mature follicles, BFFN
    IUI #3, 10/8/13 Femara + Menopur, six mature follicles, BFN

    BFP #3, 12/9/2013, while on treatment break, EDD: 8/22/2014  Please stick and grow, LO!

    Additional Dx: hypothyroidism, TgAb positive & anti-TPO positive, POR/DOR (2/2013), and suspected endometriosis

    ******All AL always welcome******
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  • Another BFFN this morning at 14pdiui so I am just waiting for AF. I wish it would just get here already.  I feel stupid for feeling totally crushed given that the chance of success was so small, but I am. I'm guessing we will do the same thing next cycle, but I have not talked to my doc.

    I do have a question.  Should I be pushing for a HSG? I've had a saline ultrasound which was totally normal. I'm going to ask my doctor, but I'm guessing he is going to tell me that I don't need it given that I have gotten pregnant twice (the first time I got pregnant the first month we tried, but it took us 6 or 7 months to get our second). Should I push it? Honestly, the thought of radiation on my already fucked up ovaries and eggs doesn't sound so great. Thoughts?

    Warning: pity party ahead (Seriously, folks, feel free to stop reading. What follows isn't pretty, but I just need to vent it out a bit).

    I'm really tired of this. You would think having just come off the bench for 6 months that I would have more energy or excitement about TTCAL. I don't.  Those 6 months were fraught with stress over possibly developing cancer and simultaneously obsessively worrying about my ovaries shriveling up.

    If I could take a break, I would, but I can't if I want any shot of having a baby. @buggirl72 you have posted elsewhere about fearing that you only have a limited number of cycles left. Considering that my AMH dropped nearly in half over the last 6 months, I totally get it.  Being AMA with DOR sucks balls.

    Also, while I'm venting, I feel positively ancient. I'm turning 36 in September (this was my last chance to get KTFU before my birthday). Rationally, I know that is not *that* old, but, fuck, the AMA and the DOR and the fears about perimenopause make me feel so damn old. It is really messing with my head.

    Ugh. Sorry guys, this got long and I'm just in a shitty head space. CD1 will eventually show up, I'll suck it up, and we will move on. Thanks for letting me vent a bit.
    I'm sorry. It does not matter how much you know what the odds are, it still hurts to get a BFN.

    My RE did an HSG first, was initially fine with it and then started second guessing his results so wanted to do a saline sono.  Maybe talk with your RE to see what an HSG would tell you in addition to what you have already have done.

    And big (((hugs))). DOR sucks. AMA sucks. I hate that we have to fight so hard for all of this an how hopeless it makes you feel. And I absolutely hate that we feel like we do not have enough time.

    Don't beat yourself up for not getting testing down while you were on the forced bench. You had other things that were much more important for them to watch and you did a hell of a lot in taking care of yourself and setting and meeting goals.

    The day the Bump died - Jasper is wise
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  • ball.and.chain - How is your foot doing and how long do you have to be on crutches? As a kid, I always thought it would be cool to have crutches. I now know how stupid of a kid I was.

    Ha -- I thought crutches would be fun too when I was a kid! Turns out they are not. But I'm getting better at them and everything is getting easier as I adjust. I think I'll be on them 2-3 weeks, then I have an ortho appointment and he might take me off them. FX!

    QOTW: After my wife and I got married, we moved to CA from MA. We used up all our vacation time with our honeymoon and the move, so it was months before we were able to take a day off. We were exhausted from the move, I was working FT and in school PT, and by the time we had earned a day off, we were totally depleted. We went up to Sonoma County for a long weekend. It poured most of the weekend but we had a fireplace and hot tub in our room, we spent the whole first day at the spa, ate some amazing food, and when the rain br
    oke we went wine tasting and there were rainbows in the hills. Don't know if it was the best weekend ever but definitely a contender!

    (((HUGS))) Pintobean! I'm sorry you're struggling.

    Happy early birthday gscoville!
    That sounds like a pretty great weekend! A beautiful destination with a spa, wine, and the one you love is generally a good bet.

    The day the Bump died - Jasper is wise
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  • Eliz77 said:
    HUGE congrats to Junebug060609!! I always love seeing TTCAL members move on, but somehow it's even more so when a check in buddy has success. FX all goes well and you have a very H&H 9 months!

    buggirl-as usual, thank you for running this check in! Lots of luck to you on your move! I often think about the idea of moving someplace totally new to us, but I just don't know if I can! Also sending you ((hugs)). This journey is difficult and can be such an emotional roller coaster.

    Eliz77 - I saw on your IUI question post that you decided to do four natural cycles and then move on to IUI. I’m glad you have a plan moving forward that you are happy with.
    Yes, I am pretty comfortable with my plan. I had hope the RE would give me a plan herself, but she really didn't. Had she said she thought we needed to move on to medicated cycles or IUI or whatever, I would be more anxious about what to do. So, I hope the fact she was rather nonchalant means it's OK to try a few more natural cycles. 

    Just hard to get a straight answer...I know our timing has been good and H's sperm is good, so not really sure IUI would offer much more. I'm sure my age and low AMH has more to do with things than anything else.

    Question of the Week:  Tell me about the best weekend you ever had.

    Hmm...tough one! I would say with H, it was a weekend in Key West...so relaxing, great food and mostly free (thanks to our awesome boss at the time)!
    For us, the IUI did not push the odds up that much more than TI did - but my DOR is pretty bad so we are talking about a 10% chance verses a 7% chance on a medicated/TI cycle.  I might be able to get @RosiePeare to peak in and give us her advice on IUIs.

    The day the Bump died - Jasper is wise
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  • Veganlady said:
    @msamandapants When you talk about AMH numbers, what units are yours in? Mine were 2.35 ng/ml or 16.78 pmol/L. I'm not sure which number to use to compare apples to apples.

    Mine are ng/ml, but the two scales do make it confusing!
    Me: 36 yo, TTC #1 since Feb. 2012
    BFP #1, 3/12, EDD 11/9/12, MMC 3/27/12, D&C 4/10/12

    BFP #2: 11/16/12, EDD 7/25/13, MMC 12/5/12, D&C 12/6/12, Complete molar pregnancy confirmed 2/9/13, benched for 6 months until  August 2013

    IUI #1, 8/16/13 Femara + Menopur, 3 mature follicles, BFN
    IUI #2 (back-to-back, 9/12/13 and 9/13/13) Femara + Menopur, four mature follicles, BFFN
    IUI #3, 10/8/13 Femara + Menopur, six mature follicles, BFN

    BFP #3, 12/9/2013, while on treatment break, EDD: 8/22/2014  Please stick and grow, LO!

    Additional Dx: hypothyroidism, TgAb positive & anti-TPO positive, POR/DOR (2/2013), and suspected endometriosis

    ******All AL always welcome******
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  • RN536 said:
    Hi there. Yeah to Junebug. So happy to see a BFP on the AMA board. I am cd 16 and got my positive OPK today. DTD last night and hopefully will continue to do so until sunday . Mom is doing great. Thanks everyone for their T and Ps.
    Glad to hear your mom is doing great.

    The day the Bump died - Jasper is wise
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  • gscoville said:
    This is why I'm so anxious for the OB appointment, I'm assuming he'll be able to interpret my testing results much better than my GP did. My GP said mine were all fine, and on the surface my LH and FSH numbers and ratio look good, they're both 5, but my estradiol at 161 is way high for what I've researched and everything I've seen points to a likelihood of falsely suppressed FSH at those estradiol levels. I just really wish they could have done my AMH as ordered, but apparently it's not easily available up here, something about having to freeze the blood with dry ice and send it to California as it's not a test done at all in Canada, or at least in western Canada. Ugh!
    I hope your OB can give you a good interpretation of the results.  I'm sorry you can't get the AMH test. On one hand, it is frustrating not to have the best data, but on the other there isn't much you can do about crappy AMH anyway (sometimes I wish I didn't know my number).  Have they done an antral follicle count on you?

    I had an antral follicle u/s done but, unfortunately, it was done at my local small town hospital's radiology department and apparently the itinerant u/s tech we get in once or twice a week seems to have never done fertility-oriented u/s before. Her report was next to useless, she referred to what she saw as 'cysts' not even follicles, which made my old OB laugh in exasperation, and she ultimately just didn't really do what was asked by the order, no real count was done. Just all part and parcel of living in a small northern town far from any major centre. The OB I'll be seeing is in the city an hour away, and if I wanted to see an actual RE that would mean an 11 hour drive down to Vancouver for the nearest one.


         

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    Married August 2012. Me: 41  DH: 42 
    Daughter from previous marriage: 20

    BFP 12/19/12: Ectopic discovered at 8 weeks, right tube removed 01/18/13
    June 2013 Testing Results: Progesterone: 31.7, LH: 5, FSH: 5, Estradiol: 161
    Clomid cycles Nov. 2013 and Jan, Feb, and March 2014

    TTC journey over as of the end of October 2014

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    All ALers welcome!

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