I haven't had a sip at all during this pregnancy, nor with my pregnancy with DD. However, I did take Zofran during my weeks of horrible vomiting during both pregnancies and had to wean myself off a medication this pregnancy. Does this make me selfish? A glass of wine daily has numerous health benefits (in a healthy adult) and is not going to harm the baby. I agree with PP who said we are one of the few countries who don't consume alcohol during pregnancy because Americans (not every American, but as a country) don't know how to drink moderately. Doctors feel they have to say absolutely NO alcohol or some people will take "An occasional drink is fine" to mean "I can drink a 6 pk tonight and tomorrow night and the next night."
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If a sip of wine or beer is horrifying and indicative of not loving your child, then go ahead and call CPS on me because I had half a beer AND sushi for dinner last night. Gasp! Just curious, do you not love your unborn child if you have a bag of chips or a candy bar while pregnant? I mean, what redeeming nutritional value do they have? Where do you draw the line?
I just ate a whole bag of popcorn, literally, while reading this post. A beer to wash it down sounds good, but I'm afraid I will enjoy it too much so I refrain.
After seeing all this...I would like to take a moment to add that I see nothing wrong with others drinking in moderate amounts, pregnant or not, I just have a negative reaction to drinking anything. I definitely don't think I'm doing better or worse than anyone else on this, and just, yeah, wanted to make sure to say that...
@babyedgar & @sheryl052 no one here is putting their children at risk, how dare you! I live in the UK and it is fine here to enjoy 2 units of alcohol per week (one glass of wine). Going by your judgmental comments you're absolutely perfect then are you? Don't drink coffee? Eat anything you're not supposed to? Wear heels over the recommended height? Etc etc
Luckily, my "judgy" comments aren't all that uncommon. I do not believe that I'm on the minority or any of the other ladies that have commented on not drinking. It may be the minority on these forums but I believe that speaks to the type of people here. This will be my last post so no bother replying, as I will actually be de-activating my account on this website.
Research? You must be kidding. You also much live in a cave my dear friend. I'm not Saint, but I do appreciate the compliment. I do try to be a good nutrient provider for my unborn child that cannot care for himself yet, but Saint isn't necessary.
You selfish women ARE horrifying (I really like that word) by not showing unconditional love to your unborn child, by not drinking alcohol for just nine months. Was your pregnancy unplanned and you simply don't care about your baby? Perhaps people like you are what's wrong with the world these days. You can stand by your argument by saying that other countries do it and that is fine for you. I do hope that you and your FAS child go live there once it gets older. Goodbye and hope you all had a great weekend!
This is a horrifying poll/post. Your "love" and "need" of your precious alcohol takes precedent at the risk of your baby. Sure, we would all love a drink at some point during our pregnancy, but it's astonishing to see how much women risk for a selfish desire.
Again, and I will speak slowly. We are one of the only countries in the world where women are told not to drink anything. It is a big game of doctors covering their asses bc they can't trust the general public to not take "Drink Moderately" as a 6 pack a day. We live in a sue happy country where everybody thinks they are owed something for nothing, so every doctor plays cover their own ass. There are many studies done in Europe and the UK with 5k, 7k, 10k mothers and children exposed to all levels of alcohol and it's been shown that moderate {between 3-7 glasses of wine a week} drinking has no ill effects on the fetus. Not only that, I doubt anybody who answered Yes to the question is even drinking near that much. So, kindly take your judgy comment and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
LOL, @sheryl052 deactivated her account.. riiiight. Hi Sheryl!
I'll tell you what's wrong with the world these days: "horrifying" sanctimommies who think they're MDs and PHDs. Let's send them all off to the countryside to live away from polite society, where they'll be comfortable to judge each other freely and let the rest of us have a few sips of wine if we so choose.
I had taken a screen shot of a response from someone who works in FADS research. I found her response really interesting so I saved it.
I do believe everyone has the right to make the decisions they feel are best for them and there babies. If you choose to drink occasionally during your pregnancy that's 100% up to you and that's fine but I after reading this I almost get the feeling that I'm being judged for not drinking.
"Happiness is like a butterfly; the more you chase it the more it will elude you but if u turn your attention to other things it will come & sit softly on your shoulder."
BFP! 04/26/11 - DS born 12/28/11 - BFP #2! 04/02/13 - DD born 12/11/13 - My Ovulation Chart
I had taken a screen shot of a response from someone who works in FADS research. I found her response really interesting so I saved it.
I do believe everyone has the right to make the decisions they feel are best for them and there babies. If you choose to drink occasionally during your pregnancy that's 100% up to you and that's fine but I after reading this I almost get the feeling that I'm being judged for not drinking.
I appreciate you posting that statement. However, it still doesn't clarify the argument of causation and correlation. You can deductively correlate that alcohol could have had an influence on her child but you can not say alcohol caused those results in her child. I totally understand why people say it isn't worth the risk and abstain. I have actually only had two small glasses of red wine this entire pregnancy. I however, stand by my right to have a glass and your right to abstain. I don't think either side should be judged. I do see a problem with a judgy woman saying I horrify her and wishing FAS on my unborn child.
I have had a couple of glasses of red wine during this pregnancy. I have had a couple of cups of coffee. I have had a couple of rolls of sushi. Why? Because anyone with half a brain, common sense and some research should know that these things used little to moderately throughout pregnancy are fine. It's one thing if you're avoiding it to be overly cautious, but you can't possibly completely avoid everything that may harm your child throughout your entire course of parenting, so it seems silly to stress. However, to those sanctimommies that are just horrified that some people might have a glass or two per trimester, see the link above. Thanks.
I had taken a screen shot of a response from someone who works in FADS research. I found her response really interesting so I saved it.
I do believe everyone has the right to make the decisions they feel are best for them and there babies. If you choose to drink occasionally during your pregnancy that's 100% up to you and that's fine but I after reading this I almost get the feeling that I'm being judged for not drinking.
I remember that post, and I responded to it at the time. After I pointed out that there is no way that study was conducted here because no governing medical review board would permit it, she ended up admitting it was a friend of a friend who actually witnessed the ultrasound and it was done in another country. I don't necessarily trust the interpretation of the study given the circumstances, though I think she had the best of intentions with sharing it. There was no control subject, and she said they took the women's word for how much alcohol they had consumed. It was very un-scientific and didn't follow any of the acceptable standards for medical trials.
I don't think anyone's judging women who choose not to drink. At least I can speak for myself in saying that I'm not! If my statements came across that way, it wasn't my intention. I understand and respect a woman's decision not to. In the same regard, I would expect respect and understanding for my decision to eat and drink what I choose (not saying that you're not respectful, that's more in reference to the "horrifying" comments above).
I haven't and won't, because my OB is pretty adamant about refraining from alcohol and I would personally feel guilty and not enjoy it anyway. But I have been wanting a glass of Riesling BAAAD. I dream about NYE (when I plan to have my first postpartum drink!).
Hell, why wait til NYE? lol, I've told my friend she's bringing me up a bottle and a couple of wine glasses so we can all enjoy some after my c-section! hehe. Totally kidding, btw ..... kind of.
Lol! I only say that b/c I'm basing it off last time...I totally thought I would be having a celebratory drink in my hospital room, but I was too out of it at first and then nervous about nursing, so I never did. I think I should be way more relaxed this time, so I just may be having that drink before NYE!
I had taken a screen shot of a response from someone who works in FADS research. I found her response really interesting so I saved it.
I do believe everyone has the right to make the decisions they feel are best for them and there babies. If you choose to drink occasionally during your pregnancy that's 100% up to you and that's fine but I after reading this I almost get the feeling that I'm being judged for not drinking.
I remember that post, and I responded to it at the time. After I pointed out that there is no way that study was conducted here because no governing medical review board would permit it, she ended up admitting it was a friend of a friend who actually witnessed the ultrasound and it was done in another country. I don't necessarily trust the interpretation of the study given the circumstances, though I think she had the best of intentions with sharing it. There was no control subject, and she said they took the women's word for how much alcohol they had consumed. It was very un-scientific and didn't follow any of the acceptable standards for medical trials.
I don't think anyone's judging women who choose not to drink. At least I can speak for myself in saying that I'm not! If my statements came across that way, it wasn't my intention. I understand and respect a woman's decision not to. In the same regard, I would expect respect and understanding for my decision to eat and drink what I choose (not saying that you're not respectful, that's more in reference to the "horrifying" comments above).
I will take the results of true studies done with 5-10k subjects over one response on an Internet message board.
I had taken a screen shot of a response from someone who works in FADS research. I found her response really interesting so I saved it.
I do believe everyone has the right to make the decisions they feel are best for them and there babies. If you choose to drink occasionally during your pregnancy that's 100% up to you and that's fine but I after reading this I almost get the feeling that I'm being judged for not drinking.
I remember that post, and I responded to it at the time. After I pointed out that there is no way that study was conducted here because no governing medical review board would permit it, she ended up admitting it was a friend of a friend who actually witnessed the ultrasound and it was done in another country. I don't necessarily trust the interpretation of the study given the circumstances, though I think she had the best of intentions with sharing it. There was no control subject, and she said they took the women's word for how much alcohol they had consumed. It was very un-scientific and didn't follow any of the acceptable standards for medical trials.
I don't think anyone's judging women who choose not to drink. At least I can speak for myself in saying that I'm not! If my statements came across that way, it wasn't my intention. I understand and respect a woman's decision not to. In the same regard, I would expect respect and understanding for my decision to eat and drink what I choose (not saying that you're not respectful, that's more in reference to the "horrifying" comments above).
Interesting! I didn't see her follow up response. Thanks for sharing that. I don't necessarily disagree with enjoying a glass of wine here and there in your pregnancy, it's just not for me. I also don't agree with anyone judging those women who do enjoy a glass (by calling them horrible, blah, blah, blah). But I think I thread was the first time I felt as if those not drinking were being judged. Though it's so hard when writing/reading to support your decision/thought without coming across that way. I guess it's a good thing for emotion cons
"Happiness is like a butterfly; the more you chase it the more it will elude you but if u turn your attention to other things it will come & sit softly on your shoulder."
BFP! 04/26/11 - DS born 12/28/11 - BFP #2! 04/02/13 - DD born 12/11/13 - My Ovulation Chart
I don't drink, but I have recently considered smoking again. I was never a true "smoker", only smoking once a day before I went to bed. I am in such a stressful life situation now that I really want to start smoking that one cig a day again. I'm trying to figure out what's worse for the baby, me having a tiny bit of nicotine, or me having a full blown panic attack. I'veben having too many of those recently.
I give the side eye to pregnant women who treat even a sip of alcohol like poison and yet have no problem consuming Twinkies, Crystal Light, and other chemical shitstorms.
I give the side eye to pregnant women who treat even a sip of alcohol like poison and yet have no problem consuming Twinkies, Crystal Light, and other chemical shitstorms.
I give the side eye to pregnant women who treat even a sip of alcohol like poison and yet have no problem consuming Twinkies, Crystal Light, and other chemical shitstorms.
DH and I make wine as a hobby. We know everything that is put into our wine and so I'm ok with lightly tasting it.
So we can't consume something that we know is pure but we can Consume that science experiment of glucose during that test!? That's like picking welch's fruit snacks over real grapes.
I don't drink, but I have recently considered smoking again. I was never a true "smoker", only smoking once a day before I went to bed. I am in such a stressful life situation now that I really want to start smoking that one cig a day again. I'm trying to figure out what's worse for the baby, me having a tiny bit of nicotine, or me having a full blown panic attack. I'veben having too many of those recently.
I quit as well. Well kinda. I use the ecig now. I don't think it's healthy to just quit cold turkey especially if you're a panicky person. Try the ecig. No tobacco and it's proven 500 times better than cigarettes.
I don't drink, but I have recently considered smoking again. I was never a true "smoker", only smoking once a day before I went to bed. I am in such a stressful life situation now that I really want to start smoking that one cig a day again. I'm trying to figure out what's worse for the baby, me having a tiny bit of nicotine, or me having a full blown panic attack. I'veben having too many of those recently.
Have nicotine gum. I was in the same boat as you w my last pregnancy, and after some research came to the conclusion that one piece of nicotine gum per day is better than the stress I was feeling, for the baby. Studies show its safe, bc you don't get the decreased oxygen you get w a cig.
Of course not having it at all is best but if you are feeling that stressed and it's going to help alleviate it, go for it w a clear conscience.
@lp0198 Just an FYI, that poster could never follow up what she said with facts. I remember that post and she back tracked on her "research" pretty quickly - since she never had been involved in any research. Also, you would be hard pressed to find a study where women were drinking alcohol while an ultrasound was being performed...I laughed when I read that the first time, and I laugh at it now.
And I'm not judging you at all for not drinking! Only those that call people who do "horrifying"...;)
Re: Drinking while pregnant
I usually try to stay out if this stuff but it is way past my bed time, I'm cranky and I need a snickers. Are snickers good nutrient providers?
If a sip of wine or beer is horrifying and indicative of not loving your child, then go ahead and call CPS on me because I had half a beer AND sushi for dinner last night. Gasp!
Just curious, do you not love your unborn child if you have a bag of chips or a candy bar while pregnant? I mean, what redeeming nutritional value do they have? Where do you draw the line?
I wonder what her next Bump name will be when she makes a new one tomorrow?
I'll tell you what's wrong with the world these days: "horrifying" sanctimommies who think they're MDs and PHDs. Let's send them all off to the countryside to live away from polite society, where they'll be comfortable to judge each other freely and let the rest of us have a few sips of wine if we so choose.
I do believe everyone has the right to make the decisions they feel are best for them and there babies. If you choose to drink occasionally during your pregnancy that's 100% up to you and that's fine but I after reading this I almost get the feeling that I'm being judged for not drinking.
"Happiness is like a butterfly; the more you chase it the more it will elude you but if u turn your attention to other things it will come & sit softly on your shoulder."
BFP! 04/26/11 - DS born 12/28/11 - BFP #2! 04/02/13 - DD born 12/11/13 -
My Ovulation Chart
I have had a couple of glasses of red wine during this pregnancy. I have had a couple of cups of coffee. I have had a couple of rolls of sushi. Why? Because anyone with half a brain, common sense and some research should know that these things used little to moderately throughout pregnancy are fine. It's one thing if you're avoiding it to be overly cautious, but you can't possibly completely avoid everything that may harm your child throughout your entire course of parenting, so it seems silly to stress. However, to those sanctimommies that are just horrified that some people might have a glass or two per trimester, see the link above. Thanks.
I remember that post, and I responded to it at the time. After I pointed out that there is no way that study was conducted here because no governing medical review board would permit it, she ended up admitting it was a friend of a friend who actually witnessed the ultrasound and it was done in another country. I don't necessarily trust the interpretation of the study given the circumstances, though I think she had the best of intentions with sharing it. There was no control subject, and she said they took the women's word for how much alcohol they had consumed. It was very un-scientific and didn't follow any of the acceptable standards for medical trials.
I don't think anyone's judging women who choose not to drink. At least I can speak for myself in saying that I'm not! If my statements came across that way, it wasn't my intention. I understand and respect a woman's decision not to. In the same regard, I would expect respect and understanding for my decision to eat and drink what I choose (not saying that you're not respectful, that's more in reference to the "horrifying" comments above).
Lol! I only say that b/c I'm basing it off last time...I totally thought I would be having a celebratory drink in my hospital room, but I was too out of it at first and then nervous about nursing, so I never did. I think I should be way more relaxed this time, so I just may be having that drink before NYE!
I remember that post, and I responded to it at the time. After I pointed out that there is no way that study was conducted here because no governing medical review board would permit it, she ended up admitting it was a friend of a friend who actually witnessed the ultrasound and it was done in another country. I don't necessarily trust the interpretation of the study given the circumstances, though I think she had the best of intentions with sharing it. There was no control subject, and she said they took the women's word for how much alcohol they had consumed. It was very un-scientific and didn't follow any of the acceptable standards for medical trials.
I don't think anyone's judging women who choose not to drink. At least I can speak for myself in saying that I'm not! If my statements came across that way, it wasn't my intention. I understand and respect a woman's decision not to. In the same regard, I would expect respect and understanding for my decision to eat and drink what I choose (not saying that you're not respectful, that's more in reference to the "horrifying" comments above).
Interesting! I didn't see her follow up response. Thanks for sharing that. I don't necessarily disagree with enjoying a glass of wine here and there in your pregnancy, it's just not for me. I also don't agree with anyone judging those women who do enjoy a glass (by calling them horrible, blah, blah, blah). But I think I thread was the first time I felt as if those not drinking were being judged. Though it's so hard when writing/reading to support your decision/thought without coming across that way. I guess it's a good thing for emotion cons"Happiness is like a butterfly; the more you chase it the more it will elude you but if u turn your attention to other things it will come & sit softly on your shoulder."
BFP! 04/26/11 - DS born 12/28/11 - BFP #2! 04/02/13 - DD born 12/11/13 -
My Ovulation Chart
So we can't consume something that we know is pure but we can Consume that science experiment of glucose during that test!? That's like picking welch's fruit snacks over real grapes.
Have nicotine gum. I was in the same boat as you w my last pregnancy, and after some research came to the conclusion that one piece of nicotine gum per day is better than the stress I was feeling, for the baby. Studies show its safe, bc you don't get the decreased oxygen you get w a cig.
Of course not having it at all is best but if you are feeling that stressed and it's going to help alleviate it, go for it w a clear conscience.
And I'm not judging you at all for not drinking! Only those that call people who do "horrifying"...;)