"Modern parenting may hinder brain development..." article

sfshorter

https://research.nd.edu/news/36692-modern-parenting-may-hinder-brain-development-research-shows/

sfshorter

 This is me too when my baby was born, and she is great.  Nothing like some of the zombie kids I see around that just seem to go through the motions.  I guess they cried it out!  I'm sure there is more to it than that, but I thought it was interesting because I've read so much about how other cultures really look down on us for our kids sleeping apart from us and us not nursing our babies.

Phalaenopsis

This is totally a personal theory but the article mentioned benefits of these nurturing practices on right brain development. One theory of autism is an imbalance between right and left brain, usually kids display more left brain characteristics. Maybe there is a connection, but again just a thought and I'd have to look into it some more to see if it has research backing.

Amjoy25

Phalaenopsis said:

This is totally a personal theory but the article mentioned benefits of these nurturing practices on right brain development. One theory of autism is an imbalance between right and left brain, usually kids display more left brain characteristics. Maybe there is a connection, but again just a thought and I'd have to look into it some more to see if it has research backing.

Also...it's out of Notre Dame. Nope.

skyla13

I'm going to blame it on baby brain, but I didn't get what this article was trying to say.

Phalaenopsis

Amjoy25 said:

Phalaenopsis said:

This is totally a personal theory but the article mentioned benefits of these nurturing practices on right brain development. One theory of autism is an imbalance between right and left brain, usually kids display more left brain characteristics. Maybe there is a connection, but again just a thought and I'd have to look into it some more to see if it has research backing.

Also...it's out of Notre Dame. Nope.

The symposium was put together by James McKenna who is one of the leading voices on SIDS research/cosleeping etc. Regardless of the leanings of your institution, your articles are peer-reviewed to be accepted into legit journals. I get the general bias against ND but it doesn't mean the science isn't good.

sfshorter

@skyla13 .... just a loose theory that some of the more modern parenting styles that include less close and constant contact with baby, and pushing baby to be more independent early, might lead to less or slower right brain development.  I just thought it was interesting.  It does go on to say that right brain development and change occurs throughout life, so at any point in life it can be "corrected" to some extent, if the article has any base in reality at all.

Though I nurse, I disagree with the ff comment in the article, and think that would play more into the contact issue rather than the actual bm vs. formula debate.  Nursing moms just are attached to baby more often because nursing normally takes more time than bottle feeding.   Who knows though, just early morning reading I thought I'd share to see if anyone else had read anything similar or to the contrary.  

Amjoy25

Phalaenopsis said:

Amjoy25 said:

Phalaenopsis said:

This is totally a personal theory but the article mentioned benefits of these nurturing practices on right brain development. One theory of autism is an imbalance between right and left brain, usually kids display more left brain characteristics. Maybe there is a connection, but again just a thought and I'd have to look into it some more to see if it has research backing.

Also...it's out of Notre Dame. Nope.

The symposium was put together by James McKenna who is one of the leading voices on SIDS research/cosleeping etc. Regardless of the leanings of your institution, your articles are peer-reviewed to be accepted into legit journals. I get the general bias against ND but it doesn't mean the science isn't good.

I was being facetious...just for funsies.

sfshorter

Amjoy25 said:

Phalaenopsis said:

Amjoy25 said:

Phalaenopsis said:

This is totally a personal theory but the article mentioned benefits of these nurturing practices on right brain development. One theory of autism is an imbalance between right and left brain, usually kids display more left brain characteristics. Maybe there is a connection, but again just a thought and I'd have to look into it some more to see if it has research backing.

Also...it's out of Notre Dame. Nope.

The symposium was put together by James McKenna who is one of the leading voices on SIDS research/cosleeping etc. Regardless of the leanings of your institution, your articles are peer-reviewed to be accepted into legit journals. I get the general bias against ND but it doesn't mean the science isn't good.

I was being facetious...just for funsies.

@amjoy25 I picked up on that right away.    My survival technique for TB has been to completely ignore it or to GIF it away.  It has been working very nicely.  

Phalaenopsis

Phalaenopsis said:

Amjoy25 said:

Phalaenopsis said:

This is totally a personal theory but the article mentioned benefits of these nurturing practices on right brain development. One theory of autism is an imbalance between right and left brain, usually kids display more left brain characteristics. Maybe there is a connection, but again just a thought and I'd have to look into it some more to see if it has research backing.

Also...it's out of Notre Dame. Nope.

The symposium was put together by James McKenna who is one of the leading voices on SIDS research/cosleeping etc. Regardless of the leanings of your institution, your articles are peer-reviewed to be accepted into legit journals. I get the general bias against ND but it doesn't mean the science isn't good.

I was being facetious...just for funsies.

Oh haha. I missed the signal!

chicsahm

One extreme to the next. I feel that like with EVERYTHING it is not good to overdo something...finding balance is key to great development (for the entire family!) Having your child in a carrier/swing etc. all day is not good, nor is holding them ALL DAY! As your baby grows they have new needs and also need to learn that OMG not everything is about them. Sometimes they need to learn how to self play so Mom can clean, or have a little sanity time. I think the whole baby wearing/holding, bed sharing, giving in to every fuss/cry/whine is bad, as is leaving them all day to do their thing. I also think that there is a correct way to help teach your child how to get to sleep without you rocking or having to sleep with them to fall asleep.... and OH NO, that means some crying. DS sleeps amazing because we sleep trained, he is not over tired (which is also bad for their brain development)... nor is Mommy and Daddy AND we get adult normal time that is much needed. My neighbor STILL has to lay down with all 3 of her kids (youngest is 5 oldest is 9) until they fall asleep, and most nights her husband has to wake her or she just sleeps with the last child she got to sleep..... how is this healthy for your relationship with your SO?!! Please don't get caught up in 1 "study". YOu can find studies for just about anything right now if you look. Oh and BTW, DS is smart, happy, healthy, and well rested.

Arod1087

Agree with that article 100%. In most cultures today beside USA children are breastfed for years and stay in their parents room as well. These countries also have significant lower rates of suicide and depression. It's something that was done for 1000s of years and then only recently did it start to change.

CousinVicki

my child is going to be a genius! 

sleepy33

CousinVicki said:

my child is going to be a genius! 

A genius hippy...

CousinVicki

sleepy33 said:

CousinVicki said:

my child is going to be a genius! 

A genius hippy...

hahaha, the tide can still turn!

sleepy33

CousinVicki said:

sleepy33 said:

CousinVicki said:

my child is going to be a genius! 

A genius hippy...

hahaha, the tide can still turn!

Maybe he will bring about world peace.

CousinVicki

crunchymama11 said:

AP for the win! Love this article!

though i do not AP specifically, for the record! No bed sharing, no nursing until 3ish and i didn't wear baby for 10 years lol

CousinVicki

crunchymama11 said:

CousinVicki said:

crunchymama11 said:

AP for the win! Love this article!

though i do not AP specifically, for the record! No bed sharing, no nursing until 3ish and i didn't wear baby for 10 years lol

That is not what APing is about. If bed-sharing, BWing, and extended BFing work for you and your child- great. but you don't have to do those things to be an APer. APing is about responding to your child's needs individually and gently.

FTR- I am still BFing, may tandem nurse, bed-share occasionally, and still wear DD when we are out for long periods (it is much easier to carry a 31-lb toddler by wearing her!). Nothing to be ashamed of because it works for us.

oh i have used time outs too, sporadically, isn't this totally against AP (isnt saying an actual "no" at all against AP in fact?)

sfshorter

what is AP?  I'm feeling out of the loop here.

sleepy33

sfshorter said:

what is AP?  I'm feeling out of the loop here.

It took me a second, at first I was like, this is not an Associated Press article...?

sfshorter

Got ya.  I just went and read the wiki article on it, don't flame me, it's like cliff notes.    I don't know what I think about it but I vaguely remember it from a child psychology class I took a million years ago when I was going to be a psychiatrist.  lol

ANY WHO, one thing that struck me as amusing was in the "Concerns" section.  It listed strenuous and demanding as drawbacks.  Well isn't everything that's worth a damn strenuous and demanding?  Parenting, no matter how you go about it, is strenuous and demanding.  

That is all.  

chicsahm

crunchymama11 said:

chicsahm said:

One extreme to the next. I feel that like with EVERYTHING it is not good to overdo something...finding balance is key to great development (for the entire family!) Having your child in a carrier/swing etc. all day is not good, nor is holding them ALL DAY! As your baby grows they have new needs and also need to learn that OMG not everything is about them. Sometimes they need to learn how to self play so Mom can clean, or have a little sanity time. I think the whole baby wearing/holding, bed sharing, giving in to every fuss/cry/whine is bad, as is leaving them all day to do their thing. I also think that there is a correct way to help teach your child how to get to sleep without you rocking or having to sleep with them to fall asleep.... and OH NO, that means some crying. DS sleeps amazing because we sleep trained, he is not over tired (which is also bad for their brain development)... nor is Mommy and Daddy AND we get adult normal time that is much needed. My neighbor STILL has to lay down with all 3 of her kids (youngest is 5 oldest is 9) until they fall asleep, and most nights her husband has to wake her or she just sleeps with the last child she got to sleep..... how is this healthy for your relationship with your SO?!! Please don't get caught up in 1 "study". YOu can find studies for just about anything right now if you look. Oh and BTW, DS is smart, happy, healthy, and well rested.

You don't have to let baby CIO to get baby to go to sleep.

CIO is just leaving your child in the room crying the entire time without going in at all.... I did not say CIO, I said there is a way to do it.... there is some crying, and letting your child cry is such a bad thing?? And I am not talking about newborns, this is when a child is old enough to be able to learn to put themselves to sleep without rocking, nursing, etc (those can be a part of bedtime routine, but not to the point where you do it and have to lay child down hoping they don't wake as you sneak out.)

kdjudd

I practice attachment parenting for the most part so I think my child will be fine. :P I'm completely against CIO and I don't believe it is possible for a baby to manipulate you or to be spoiled. 

chicsahm

@kdjudd, I agree that babies can not be spoiled or manipulate you... but they reach a certain age and then they can! Have you ever seen Nanny 911?? That is the proof!

kdjudd

@chicsahm Oh yeah! I totally agree there! I just mean as a baby they can't. I remember being manipulative as a child so I totally expect to pay for that through my children. lol

CousinVicki

crunchymama11 said:

CousinVicki said:

crunchymama11 said:

CousinVicki said:

crunchymama11 said:

AP for the win! Love this article!

though i do not AP specifically, for the record! No bed sharing, no nursing until 3ish and i didn't wear baby for 10 years lol

That is not what APing is about. If bed-sharing, BWing, and extended BFing work for you and your child- great. but you don't have to do those things to be an APer. APing is about responding to your child's needs individually and gently.

FTR- I am still BFing, may tandem nurse, bed-share occasionally, and still wear DD when we are out for long periods (it is much easier to carry a 31-lb toddler by wearing her!). Nothing to be ashamed of because it works for us.

oh i have used time outs too, sporadically, isn't this totally against AP (isnt saying an actual "no" at all against AP in fact?)

I know you are being facetious, but since this is a common AP misconception, then I will address it.

No, using time-outs is not against AP, and neither is saying "No". AP is not about letting your kid do whatever they want. It is about discipline, not punishment. It is about teaching the child, not just being an authoritarian.

Permissive parents that let let their kid run around doing whatever they want are not necessarily APers. And in fact I would say they aren't APers. Because again, APing is about meeting your child's need gently and individually, and children need discipline.

not being facetious at all, i know plenty of AP'ers who are just like this (do NOT say no, let their child decide bed time (even if this is 11pm!!), and do not do time outs or ANy form of discipline .  it's maybe the old school AP, i dont know.