@Lilidragon, I'm with you. Who cares about your car? I vaguely side eye people posting stuff like that of FB but sending out an email is much worse in my opinion. FB, people can look or not. I open and read all my personal emails and couldn't possibly care less about any family's large purchases except my own immediate family.
While I was making Lili's practice cake I had an extra bowl of the fluffy, whipped, vanilla bean icing beside me and I was eating it with a spoon...It was absolutely heavenly...until about 3 AM, at which point I awoke sweating profusely and proceeded to barf my guts out like a cocker spaniel. I never did learn to moderate my intake...oh well!
Also, my BIL and SIL just sent me a seizure-inducing eye roll worthy email. "OUR NEW RIDE!!" It's an effin BMW. Way to go...I'm so, ah...proud of you for buying a 44K car?? If it had been a chevette you can bet we wouldn't have received the memo. I guess I just think it's lame to send out mass emails about shit you just bought. I am judging them harshly right now, and it's pissing my H off.
i think its pretty normal to send your immediate family email/pics of big purchases like cars/houses/etc. i would be excited as hell if i bought a BMW and would def email my family. they would think it was sweird if i just showed up to their house in one.
Yeah, see I don't. I never sent a mass email when I bought my Nissan, or my house, or when I had my baby FFS. I maintain. It's lame. If you do it, that's fine. Just know if you send one to me, I'll definitely be harshing on it
While I was making Lili's practice cake I had an extra bowl of the fluffy, whipped, vanilla bean icing beside me and I was eating it with a spoon...It was absolutely heavenly...until about 3 AM, at which point I awoke sweating profusely and proceeded to barf my guts out like a cocker spaniel. I never did learn to moderate my intake...oh well!
Also, my BIL and SIL just sent me a seizure-inducing eye roll worthy email. "OUR NEW RIDE!!" It's an effin BMW. Way to go...I'm so, ah...proud of you for buying a 44K car?? If it had been a chevette you can bet we wouldn't have received the memo. I guess I just think it's lame to send out mass emails about shit you just bought. I am judging them harshly right now, and it's pissing my H off.
i think its pretty normal to send your immediate family email/pics of big purchases like cars/houses/etc. i would be excited as hell if i bought a BMW and would def email my family. they would think it was sweird if i just showed up to their house in one.
Yeah, see I don't. I never sent a mass email when I bought my Nissan, or my house, or when I had my baby FFS. I maintain. It's lame. If you do it, that's fine. Just know if you send one to me, I'll definitely be harshing on it
I would side-eye the email too. I think it is normal to TALK about large purchases like a new car/house or when you have a baby. I do not think it is normal to send an email with a picture unless it is asked for. Well, except for the new baby thing. You better expect to see LOTSA pictures with a new baby
While I was making Lili's practice cake I had an extra bowl of the fluffy, whipped, vanilla bean icing beside me and I was eating it with a spoon...It was absolutely heavenly...until about 3 AM, at which point I awoke sweating profusely and proceeded to barf my guts out like a cocker spaniel. I never did learn to moderate my intake...oh well!
Also, my BIL and SIL just sent me a seizure-inducing eye roll worthy email. "OUR NEW RIDE!!" It's an effin BMW. Way to go...I'm so, ah...proud of you for buying a 44K car?? If it had been a chevette you can bet we wouldn't have received the memo. I guess I just think it's lame to send out mass emails about shit you just bought. I am judging them harshly right now, and it's pissing my H off.
i think its pretty normal to send your immediate family email/pics of big purchases like cars/houses/etc. i would be excited as hell if i bought a BMW and would def email my family. they would think it was sweird if i just showed up to their house in one.
Yeah, see I don't. I never sent a mass email when I bought my Nissan, or my house, or when I had my baby FFS. I maintain. It's lame. If you do it, that's fine. Just know if you send one to me, I'll definitely be harshing on it
Also, just because its a BMW doesn't mean they spent a crazy amount on it. My parents have 3 BMW's. A SUV, a Sedan, and a Roadster. The 2 everyday vehicles were purchased Certified Used from the dealership when they were 2ish years old with low mileage. I believe both were early lease turn-ins. They did not pay more than 24k for either. The Roadster is a 97 they bought in 02 and again was under 25k. They didn't buy any of them to be like look what we can afford or show off they just happen to like the quality and look of BMW's. it isn't anymore than you would likely spend on a new Ford, Chevy, Nissan, etc.
Amd I agree with PP that its normal to show off new large purchases to immediate family members. At least in our family it is.
I'm eating a Starcrunch and grilled PB and honey sandwich with a cup of coffee for breakfast. That's all I've got.
"To be able to practice five things everywhere under heaven constitutes perfect virtue...gravity, generosity of soul, sincerity, earnestness, and kindness."
I would totally buy my daughter the children's place shirt. It's a shirt people, get your panties out of a wad. What's wrong with being a girl? I just don't get the big whoop. DD currently has on a pink nightgown with pink flowers, red and Purple Hearts and monkeys. Bentley has on blue pjs with a fire truck and drake has on red pjs with a train. The horror! :-/
But it wasn't about pink versus blue. The shirt was clearly saying that girls shouldn't excel at math and that they should focus solely on dance and things like that.
Right. It'd be like if a little boys shirt had text that read something like: My best subjects: Football X, Muscles X, Lunch X, Reading *no X there.
Is that offensive? Or at least SMHworthy? I think so. It's setting kids up for failure in a subtle way that is masquerading as "humor".
In general, I despise any text or logos on my clothes or my kids clothes because I hate being advertised to and I feel like I'm making myself a walking billboard for values I disagree with.
Nope I wouldn't find that shirt offensive either. Again, it is a SHIRT. And fwiw my daughter just changed into her new fav shirt for the concert she's going to tonight. It's camo and I think it's great! She dances and does awesome in school. That shirt has nothing to do with RL IMO. It's a SHIRT!
I think you're blind about how the clothes you wear affect what people think of you. And again, a shirt that says "I'm a dumb girl" in not so many words is a LOT different than a camo shirt.
Not the same but just as damaging in an opposite way. After all, we're raising the men who are going to have to marry these smart and strong women we are talking about (provided they want to get married). You better believe I'm going to raise a boy who will be kind and loving enough while wanting a partner who can take care of herself.
@k3pink. If it's only a shirt with a meaningless message, would you dress your kids in a shirt that said "I support gay rights?" After all, it's just a shirt. ;;)
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Why is "it's a SHIRT" stated like that means anything at all?
Yep, it's a SHIRT. That directly supports the BULLSHIT PATRIARCHAL IDEA that girls are ONLY INTERESTED in TRIVIAL SHIT like shopping and dancing because their FEMALE BRAINS are too PRECIOUS AND BUBBLEHEADED for BOY THINGS like MATH.
Things like SHIRTS and BOOKS and MOVIES communicate IDEAS and PARADIGMS to our children just as EFFECTIVELY if not MORE SO than the things we SAY to them. That is why COMMERCIALS and ADVERTISING are billion dollar industries.
@k3pink. If it's only a shirt with a meaningless message, would you dress your kids in a shirt that said "I support gay rights?" After all, it's just a shirt. ;;)
Why is "it's a SHIRT" stated like that means anything at all?
Yep, it's a SHIRT. That directly supports the BULLSHIT PATRIARCHAL IDEA that girls are ONLY INTERESTED in TRIVIAL SHIT like shopping and dancing because their FEMALE BRAINS are too PRECIOUS AND BUBBLEHEADED for BOY THINGS like MATH.
Things like SHIRTS and BOOKS and MOVIES communicate IDEAS and PARADIGMS to our children just as EFFECTIVELY if not MORE SO than the things we SAY to them. That is why COMMERCIALS and ADVERTISING are billion dollar industries.
Did I use enough capital letters to make sense?
Hey now, I bet that doctor who paid her way through college by being a stripper considered dancing to be VERY serious business!
@k3pink. If it's only a shirt with a meaningless message, would you dress your kids in a shirt that said "I support gay rights?" After all, it's just a shirt. ;;)
I would totally buy my daughter the children's place shirt. It's a shirt people, get your panties out of a wad. What's wrong with being a girl? I just don't get the big whoop. DD currently has on a pink nightgown with pink flowers, red and Purple Hearts and monkeys. Bentley has on blue pjs with a fire truck and drake has on red pjs with a train. The horror! :-/
But it wasn't about pink versus blue. The shirt was clearly saying that girls shouldn't excel at math and that they should focus solely on dance and things like that.
Right. It'd be like if a little boys shirt had text that read something like: My best subjects: Football X, Muscles X, Lunch X, Reading *no X there.
Is that offensive? Or at least SMHworthy? I think so. It's setting kids up for failure in a subtle way that is masquerading as "humor".
In general, I despise any text or logos on my clothes or my kids clothes because I hate being advertised to and I feel like I'm making myself a walking billboard for values I disagree with.
Nope I wouldn't find that shirt offensive either. Again, it is a SHIRT. And fwiw my daughter just changed into her new fav shirt for the concert she's going to tonight. It's camo and I think it's great! She dances and does awesome in school. That shirt has nothing to do with RL IMO. It's a SHIRT!
I think you're blind about how the clothes you wear affect what people think of you. And again, a shirt that says "I'm a dumb girl" in not so many words is a LOT different than a camo shirt.
Not the same but just as damaging in an opposite way. After all, we're raising the men who are going to have to marry these smart and strong women we are talking about (provided they want to get married). You better believe I'm going to raise a boy who will be kind and loving enough while wanting a partner who can take care of herself.
Baker, that's assuming Howell grows up to marry a girl. Whenever someone (friend or family member) makes a joke or comment about DS being a ladies man or having lots of girlfriends when he's older, I'm always quick to add "or boyfriends" because I want my son to know from an early age that we will love him no matter what. This doesn't really have anything to do with the shirt, but whatever. I'd never put my kid in a shirt like that.
I almost said that. I do think he likes women though I would not care if he didn't. He is always flirting!
I have another one related to clothes. Pink camo is not cute. It doesn't make sense. Only in Seussland do we have pink forests. The animals can DEFINITELY see you in pink camo so it defeats the purpose of camo.
"To be able to practice five things everywhere under heaven constitutes perfect virtue...gravity, generosity of soul, sincerity, earnestness, and kindness."
Oh and if he does marry a guy, I want him to want the same things out of him as I would want him to want in a woman: Nice, respectable, strong, caring, intelligent, confident...
I would totally buy my daughter the children's place shirt. It's a shirt people, get your panties out of a wad. What's wrong with being a girl? I just don't get the big whoop. DD currently has on a pink nightgown with pink flowers, red and Purple Hearts and monkeys. Bentley has on blue pjs with a fire truck and drake has on red pjs with a train. The horror! :-/
But it wasn't about pink versus blue. The shirt was clearly saying that girls shouldn't excel at math and that they should focus solely on dance and things like that.
Right. It'd be like if a little boys shirt had text that read something like: My best subjects: Football X, Muscles X, Lunch X, Reading *no X there.
Is that offensive? Or at least SMHworthy? I think so. It's setting kids up for failure in a subtle way that is masquerading as "humor".
In general, I despise any text or logos on my clothes or my kids clothes because I hate being advertised to and I feel like I'm making myself a walking billboard for values I disagree with.
Nope I wouldn't find that shirt offensive either. Again, it is a SHIRT. And fwiw my daughter just changed into her new fav shirt for the concert she's going to tonight. It's camo and I think it's great! She dances and does awesome in school. That shirt has nothing to do with RL IMO. It's a SHIRT!
I think you're blind about how the clothes you wear affect what people think of you. And again, a shirt that says "I'm a dumb girl" in not so many words is a LOT different than a camo shirt.
I personally don't judge a book by its cover. Just sayin.
I have another one related to clothes. Pink camo is not cute. It doesn't make sense. Only in Seussland do we have pink forests. The animals can DEFINITELY see you in pink camo so it defeats the purpose of camo.
Well, have you been in a trufula forest lately? Those barbaloots can get pretty vicious. I'd want my kid to be protected...just saying...
@k3pink. If it's only a shirt with a meaningless message, would you dress your kids in a shirt that said "I support gay rights?" After all, it's just a shirt. ;;)
No bc I don't agree with it. But I also wouldn't make a huge deal over it. That's my point. You don't like the shirt fine the don't buy it and move on.
I have another one related to clothes. Pink camo is not cute. It doesn't make sense. Only in Seussland do we have pink forests. The animals can DEFINITELY see you in pink camo so it defeats the purpose of camo.
Well, have you been in a trufula forest lately? Those barbaloots can get pretty vicious. I'd want my kid to be protected...just saying...
In that case, head to toe pink camo is a MUST! The Tufula forest is located no where near where I live, though. Here, camo would be a shirt covered in dirt and gravel.
"To be able to practice five things everywhere under heaven constitutes perfect virtue...gravity, generosity of soul, sincerity, earnestness, and kindness."
i'm very confused about all these "its a SHIRT" comments as well. what does that have to do with it? what if the shirt said "i'm a dumb idiot moron with an ugly face" ... would you still say "its a SHIRT?" i mean there's definitely some threshold for what a shirt says... no?
Nope. Don't like it don't buy it. End of story. Keep moving.
i'm very confused about all these "its a SHIRT" comments as well. what does that have to do with it? what if the shirt said "i'm a dumb idiot moron with an ugly face" ... would you still say "its a SHIRT?" i mean there's definitely some threshold for what a shirt says... no?
Nope. Don't like it don't buy it. End of story. Keep moving.
Here's the thing though, It is infuriating that there are people that think it's ok to expect girls to be dippy and have their heads in the clouds. These are the people making the shirts and the people girls will have to contend with when they go out into the world. It's a shirt and move on would work if this didn't reflect how actual people feel about girls.
i'm very confused about all these "its a SHIRT" comments as well. what does that have to do with it? what if the shirt said "i'm a dumb idiot moron with an ugly face" ... would you still say "its a SHIRT?" i mean there's definitely some threshold for what a shirt says... no?
Nope. Don't like it don't buy it. End of story. Keep moving.
If any of these ladies saw that shirt in the store, I'm fairly certain they wouldn't buy it and keep moving. No one is saying to stand in the middle of said store and proclaim all that is wrong with the world.
But having conversations about how trite the shirt is, is indeed, a good and necessary thing. Whether it helps to hear other points of view of maybe open someone else's eyes to the simplistic message, it matters.
i'm very confused about all these "its a SHIRT" comments as well. what does that have to do with it? what if the shirt said "i'm a dumb idiot moron with an ugly face" ... would you still say "its a SHIRT?" i mean there's definitely some threshold for what a shirt says... no?
Nope. Don't like it don't buy it. End of story. Keep moving.
Holy shit. It isn't about buying it or not buying it, it's the fact that it even exists. That someone actually thought of the idea, created it, produced it, and mass marketed it. It's a fucking stupid, insulting, chauvinistic piece of clothing being marketed as "cute!" "girly!" "zomg!".
The service at a Ford dealership is definately not comparable to at a BMW dealership sorry it just isn't. Saying everyone who buys a BMW is trying to show off is a pretty ignorant statement. That is like saying someone who bought a larger house than necessary or a pair of jeans for 200 dollars insted of 20 dollars is trying to show off. Sometime its merely for asethic and quality purposes period. There are plenty of people who prefer Ford over Chevy and vice versa and they are not being labeled just for their prefrence in car choice.
@jillybean7582 I don't think that's what she's saying. She's saying she knows her family members in particular are acting that way. Not everyone who buys one.
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@tula214 she might be saying her familiy members are doing it to show off. That's fine. What I think is an ignorant statement is
"And FTR, that kind of conspicuous consumption is done for PRECISELY the reason you stated: "LOOK WHAT I CAN AFFORD!" Otherwise they would have just got a Ford"
That was not directed at her family members but my parents and anyone else who buys a BMW used for the price of a new Ford.
And BTW new cars lose thier value as soon as you drive them off the lot. Used cars not as drastically AND certain makes/models hold thier value obetter over others. You bet when they trade in the BMW they will get more value out of it then if they were trading in a Ford. I call that a smart investments not trying to show off. They were able to retire at ages 52 and 54 I don't think they need a BMW for people to know they have done well for themselves.
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Also, just because its a BMW doesn't mean they spent a crazy amount on it. My parents have 3 BMW's. A SUV, a Sedan, and a Roadster. The 2 everyday vehicles were purchased Certified Used from the dealership when they were 2ish years old with low mileage. I believe both were early lease turn-ins. They did not pay more than 24k for either. The Roadster is a 97 they bought in 02 and again was under 25k. They didn't buy any of them to be like look what we can afford or show off they just happen to like the quality and look of BMW's. it isn't anymore than you would likely spend on a new Ford, Chevy, Nissan, etc.
Amd I agree with PP that its normal to show off new large purchases to immediate family members. At least in our family it is.
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I think you're blind about how the clothes you wear affect what people think of you. And again, a shirt that says "I'm a dumb girl" in not so many words is a LOT different than a camo shirt.
Not the same but just as damaging in an opposite way. After all, we're raising the men who are going to have to marry these smart and strong women we are talking about (provided they want to get married). You better believe I'm going to raise a boy who will be kind and loving enough while wanting a partner who can take care of herself.
FET #1 Dec 2013 BFN
FET # 2 Feb 2014 BFN
No more frosties
IVF #2. September 2014
PGD yielded 2 perfect 5d blasts
SET November 9, 2014
Nov 23, 2014. Another BFN
Not sure where to go from here.
Why is "it's a SHIRT" stated like that means anything at all?
Yep, it's a SHIRT. That directly supports the BULLSHIT PATRIARCHAL IDEA that girls are ONLY INTERESTED in TRIVIAL SHIT like shopping and dancing because their FEMALE BRAINS are too PRECIOUS AND BUBBLEHEADED for BOY THINGS like MATH.
Things like SHIRTS and BOOKS and MOVIES communicate IDEAS and PARADIGMS to our children just as EFFECTIVELY if not MORE SO than the things we SAY to them. That is why COMMERCIALS and ADVERTISING are billion dollar industries.
Did I use enough capital letters to make sense?
Thanks. I couldn't resist.
I'm still awaiting her response.
FET #1 Dec 2013 BFN
FET # 2 Feb 2014 BFN
No more frosties
IVF #2. September 2014
PGD yielded 2 perfect 5d blasts
SET November 9, 2014
Nov 23, 2014. Another BFN
Not sure where to go from here.
It is so tacky and ugly and just no!
I think you're blind about how the clothes you wear affect what people think of you. And again, a shirt that says "I'm a dumb girl" in not so many words is a LOT different than a camo shirt.
I personally don't judge a book by its cover. Just sayin.
I'm wearing it for DD's birthday party.
Also, I used links to attach Jayson's Ofootball to his gate. I'm cracking up watching him try to throw it out of the play area.
Lol, I luvya, Med !!!
"And FTR, that kind of conspicuous consumption is done for PRECISELY the reason you stated: "LOOK WHAT I CAN AFFORD!" Otherwise they would have just got a Ford"
That was not directed at her family members but my parents and anyone else who buys a BMW used for the price of a new Ford.
And BTW new cars lose thier value as soon as you drive them off the lot. Used cars not as drastically AND certain makes/models hold thier value obetter over others. You bet when they trade in the BMW they will get more value out of it then if they were trading in a Ford. I call that a smart investments not trying to show off. They were able to retire at ages 52 and 54 I don't think they need a BMW for people to know they have done well for themselves.