Things I wish I knew before giving birth

A37licia

I think we're all close enough to start a running list. I gathered a list like this before my first, and it was really helpful either to have tips for some supplies to have on hand or just what to expect in the first post partum days. 

1. Have some cash on you the few days after the birth. Often people will ask if there is anything you need or they can do for you. It is helpful to have a little cash if you feel comfortable asking them to pick up some milk or run to the pharmacy. Or even if you just need to order pizza.

2. Set up and set out everything you need for the baby before the baby is born

3. GO TO THE DENTIST. GET YOUR HAIR CUT. GET YOUR OIL CHANGED. Do all the little "routine" things that you do for yourself or make any "grown up" appointments now because after the baby is born, these things are harder to do and you have a cushion of time before needing to do them again.

4. Buy baby first aid things BEFORE the baby comes home. That first upset call to the doctor in the middle of the night and guaranteed they are going to ask for the baby's temperature, give tylenol, etc. It is a lot easier to have that on-hand to start.

5. Depends. Not pads, just get depends for the early days of post partum bleeding. I really like Always Infinity after that.
   

6. Have lots of just plain comfy T shirts ready to go. When your milk comes in you leak all over the place, plus the baby spits on you all the time. If you have a pile of clean shirts handy you can change quickly. If you have black T shirts, the milk leaking won't be as noticeable, especially if you have visitors around.

7. Be ok with wearing maternity clothes for a little while after. Some of you will fit into pre-pregnancy clothes pretty soon, if so, good for you.
   

8. I like to have a nightlight in my room so I can see the baby at night without harsh light. I actually have this little plug in candle that uses a night light bulb, and feed baby by that light. It stays dark for him to associate night time, it's too bright for my eyes, but I can see what's going on.
   

9. In addition to pads get some witch hazel and witch hazel pads (in case you are healing a tear or birthed a hemrroid in addition to your new baby).

10. Dampen a pad with water and witch hazel...form it to your body, and then freeze it. It will be a great relief to soreness.

11. Pack diaper bag for use after birth before birth, so it's ready to go

12. I know it's great to be able to sleep on your tummy following the birth, after months of not being able to sleep that way, but be careful-- if you are sleeping on your tummy the night that your milk comes in, you will be in P-A-I-N.
    

13. The first time your baby sleeps a longer chunk at night - you'll wake up sore and desperate to nurse.  Your breasts will be really firm and hard, and you will probably have leaked.
    

14. You will forget something, so build fail safes into your life. A few diapers and travel wipes in the backseat pocket for when you forget the diaper bag.

15. Bring lots of energizing snacks and drinks, know how to use your breast pump and be familiar with an LC in your area in addition to your LLL leader. Both were invaluable to me during those first few weeks of learning to breastfeed.

16. We put the car seat in around 36 weeks, enough time for us to get used to actually having a car seat in there for the first time and not thinking we were in the wrong car. Silly, but helpful.

Ok what else ladies?  Lots varies from one mother's experience to the next. 

HBirdie

What a great list! Thank you! I hadn't thought of at least half of these. As a FTM I appreciate it!

Missy2020

Great list, thank you!

Shoesy

Great list! As a FTM this is invaluable info. Thank you!

katiebenes

awesome list

smlowe9311

HBirdie said:

What a great list! Thank you! I hadn't thought of at least half of these. As a FTM I appreciate it!

This. Thank you!!!

motherof3dragons

Great list! I'd add always having a change of clothes for you and the baby in your car. It was something I learned the hard way with DS.

AlejandraN2

This is great! I'm sending to my hubby as well. Thanks for putting together. 

imakeeff0rts

This should be pinned.

It is really helpful info - thanks for making it and to those who contributed.

Jason&Erin82507

Thanks for posting this! I def needed a refresher course...

AngelMommy11211

I 2nd the stool softeners! You'll be scared to poop, and those muscles are so sore. It helped immensely to have the milk of magnesia on hand. Works quick too. Don't open your packs of diapers until after baby gets here! Have the pack on the table, but often you won't even need that extra pack. The diapers from the hospital have always lasted until they need size 1. Which was like 2 days. Lol Before you pack your hospital bag, make a list. Put it with your bag so anyone can help you get the items together if things are happening fast or if you aren't home. Remember that baby's stomach is the size of a large pea. They don't need much milk. Be patient with yourself, your milk will come in a few days after baby is born, but what you have at first will get them by. Over-feeding and supplimenting with formula just makes for fussy, gassy babies. They aren't fussy because of anything you aren't dong, if you've changed and fed them. Remember they just got taken from their dark comfy home. Adjusting can take a while for both you and baby. Don't hesitate to ask for help. Most people understand and remember what it was like. Leave those dishes for later and relax. Resting and healing are important, along with sleeping while you can.

mandyk1821

auroraloo said:

1. I had no need for cash.
   

2. Specially if you have pets, this gets them used to the stuff.
   

3. Yes.
   

4. Gas drops or gripe water! We didn't give Tylenol until after 2 months, and no ibuprofen until 6 months.
   

5. Pads were just fine for me. If you end up needing depends, send your H out post-birth. You'll know if you need them before you leave the hospital.
   

6. I prefer nursing tanks to tshirts. More comfy and easier to nurse in.
   

7. yes
   

8. I use the light of the video monitor if needed, that way it's still dark in the room most of the time.
   

9. Most hospitals will give you a pack of Tucks pads. but yes.
   

10. yes.
    

11. It won't hurt, but you'll probably hang around the house for a few days.
    

12. Not everyone has pain with breastmilk coming in, but it seems most do.
    

13. yep
    

14. We keep a tupperware container of baby stuff in the trunk of the car/van.
    

15. Don't open your pump until you know you'll be able to breastfeed. You can't return an opened pump. Once you know you'll be BFing, take it to an LC if you're worried.
    

16. Again, especially if you have pets that ride in your car. We took the dogs for rides with the car seat.
    

Ok what else ladies?  Lots varies from one mother's experience to the next. 

^ Just my experience with those things.

I will add, fill up your netflix queue and put headphones at your nighttime nursing station along
with bottles of water. I watched 3 seasons of Burn Notice without waking H or DS while nursing overnight. Before bed put your laptop/ipad/tablet/something to watch on. I couldn't focus on reading at 12, 3, and 6 am, but I could zone out to a show.

TAKE STOOL SOFTENERS. PP pooping can hurt, but not nearly as bad if you're softening that shit (literally) up. Buy some Dulcolax, IB and Tylenol now so it's ready when you get home.


I totally second the stool softener thing. Not just stool softener, but drink prune juice and water like crazy as soon as that baby's born! I didn't poop for 10 days after DS was born: enemas, suppositories, and laxatives did nothing, and I think it's cause I waited to take anything for a few days... Yikes. I think it was 10x worse than my healing vag! Ha!

michelle7482

The first few wks are survival mode for the whole family. Eating out a lot? Who cares! House a mess? Oh well! Baby will only sleep in swing and not the crib? That's fine, you all need sleep so let baby be for a few wks. Babies don't get into a routine until at least 2.5-3 months so just get through the first few wks, ask for help when needed and take care of yourself!

EmmaNut

Great list!! This was the one that got me after having DD....besides the need for massive pads and granny panties. Was the need to squirt yourself with warm water when going pee after vaginal birth. Because it just burns! Steal the one in the hospital

OpheliaChem

Gosh this is such a great list I don't have much to add.

My only advice is:

a. know how much tylenol is ok for your LO, not just as a newborn, but when they are 1, 2, 3 months old, etc. Get a chart from your pedi. You can look them up online but its safer to get it from your pedi. When you need to administer tylenol at night, esp for a high fever, you don't want to wait around for the on-call nurse to call you back. And the tylenol box won't have dosages until age 2. And I second the "no IB before 6 months" - that's a definite no-no!

b. In general, pooping will be different. It doesn't hurt for everyone and it doesn't always take days to poop the first time, but you will probably be scared regardless. No one told me about hemorrhoids and how bad they can be. Just be prepared. If you have external and/or internal hemmies, you will be in some pain, possibly for months. But witch hazel and ointment can make you feel a lot better!

Melissabride09

If you tear or need stitches at all, dont try to use a mirror to look at the damage, just dont.

Skalbrecht

Thanks ladies! This is all so helpful for ftm's!!!

amy11401

Thanks for all the helpful tips!

sallywacket

I should have taken the optional stitches. After delivery, MW said I had a year that could be stitched, but it was small enough that I could also jut let it heal on its own. Well, at that point, my baby boy had already gone to the hospital via ambulance with my DH and I didn't want ANYONE touching ANYTHING down there, so I opted out. Boy, that took longer to heal than I expected! Didn't even try having sex until 4 months PP and couldn't go through with it till 6 months. Didn't actually enjoy it for at least one or two more. This time, I'll take the stitches!

Squirt water bottle for after peeing was... New. But definitely glad to have it!

As for pooping, I was terrified but it wasn't as bad as I'd expected. I ate LOTS of fruits and veggies and the high fiber made everything work easily.

msronzio

CurlingRocks said:

And get a mesh bag (the kind for fine washables) to throw all those tiny socks in when doing the laundry.  I clothespinned one right onto the hamper and threw the socks in there from the get-go.  We didn't lose any!

OMG I was worrying about this. I was going to start a post but I thought I would get flamed for saying "I think my washer is going to eat these little socks and mittens." THANK YOU!!! House is dusty so I didn't want to wash his clothes until right before EDD so it has been on my mind! 

Thank you to everyone who contributed to this list! Squirt bottle? Gosh I've been reading since the day I found out I was pregnant and I still learn something new every day. 

AnjaO

Loppy19 said:

7- Learn to say no to people. Your post partum time is not their time, it belongs to your family. If you want visitors, then accept them, but you are not required to let everyone in the world come see you in the hospital or when you get home. You just carried a baby for 9 months and pushed it out of your vagina or had major surgery. You have earned the right to have time as a family. Accept visitors on your schedule.  

I second this, and include saying no to your SO.  I thought DH would be looking out for/trying to take care of me, but when I got home from the hospital, I had to do laundry and pick up the house.  He was wanting to entertain his parents, who were visiting us for a week, and did not deal well with the sleep deprivation (I went into labor right before bed, then due to some issues with DS and visitors at the hospital, we probably didn't get more than 8 hours of sleep spread out over three days).  I ended up having to go for a long walk on a beach when DS was 5 days old.  I was pretty sure I popped a stitch.  I really have no one to blame but myself, so this time I'm going to make sure I look out for myself!

Oh, and let other people cook and clean for you if they offer!  I didn't want other people to clean up after me, but that spiraled into DH or I doing everything we normally would when we have guests, and that was stupid.  I'm pretty sure my ILs would not think less of me for having to do some dishes or something.

llybeck

CurlingRocks said:

My best tips are:
Get used to getting unsolicited advice.  It will be really annoying, but it happens to all of us.  My best response was "Thank you; I'll keep that in mind," which usually got the person to stop and leave me alone...usually.

Cut yourself some slack.  You are doing your best, and no mom is perfect, though many will try to tell you they are/were.  If you mess something up but you and baby are still alive and healthy, learn from the experience and move on.  Baby won't remember that you put the diaper on backward at 3 AM one time.  (We started putting the diapers in the holder in a specific direction after that...)

And get a mesh bag (the kind for fine washables) to throw all those tiny socks in when doing the laundry.  I clothespinned one right onto the hamper and threw the socks in there from the get-go.  We didn't lose any!

I love the second part, I normally am a go with the flow type of person but I feel like I may have a hard time if things aren't "perfect." I definitely need to remind myself that it's all going to be okay and if I have questions I have about a million family members and friends I can ask for help from.

OP: Awesome list and great additions from everyone, this is super helpful and makes me feel at least a little more ready!

 

MJHershey

All very very good advice!!!

Wear pjs/sweatpants for the first 2 weeks. It will force you/remind you to take it easy and relax and rest.

It is okay to send the baby to the nursery that first night (or second), you need sleep while you have the help. The nurses will bring your baby to you if you are BFing.

Let DH go home for one of the nights you are in the hospital. Him having a good night's sleep will pay off when everyone comes home.

Put your foot down with your policy on visitors, even if people have temper tantrums. As said above, YOUR time not Auntie Millie and your second cousin's time. 

Stool softeners... yes.

Peri bottle... love.

It is very easy for you and DH to turn on each other when stressed out. Talk about it now and what you expect from each other/fears/worries,  and try to remember you are both (usually) doing your best at the time. You need to be a team, not enemies. This is actually what my DH tells "soon to be new" parents.

Get out of the house (after the two weeks), even if it's to Target. It helps you catch your breath. MY DH used to kick me out after dinner and just walking around the store got rid of cabin fever and helped.

Remember- "this too shall pass". The hard stuff will start easing up- you WILL be able to relax and watch a movie or TV again at night, you WILL sleep all night again,  you WILL heal, you WILL get time with DH again. It seems like it never will happen again in the thick of it... promise it will get better.

EMLYNNLERETTE

I have to stop reading responses or I will forget mine.

1. The peri bottle is a MUST for vaginal delivery even if you don't tear. Follow that up with a spray of Dermoplast. That stuff is miracle spray. You can get it at Walgreens and probably most pharmacies.

2. If you are having a girl, expect a mini period from baby. No one told us this and we were very upset thinking something was seriously wrong.

3. I agree to have a change of clothes for yourself in the car at all times. Who knows when you are going to be pooped on...

4. Have a grocery list of your staples made out before baby comes so you can have someone grab the items that you would normally like to have. This is awesome if someone offers!

5. Sleep with a towel under you for several nights PP until your body figures out what's going on. Between sweat, BM, and occasionally peeing yourself, it is 10x easier to get a new towel than to wake up your SO. A crib protector works well too if you have the flat kind and don't mind the crinkle sound.

Bellodomani

auroraloo said:

If you have grocery delivery in the area, check into it. MN girls, I highly recommend Coborn's Delivers. I believe Lund's/Byerley's also has grocery delivery. If you open a new account you usually get free delivery for 90 days.

Also, if you live in one of the areas where Google is beta-testing Google Shopping, you can sign up to be a beta-tester and same-day delivery is free for 6 months! We just got hooked up with it and it's already saved my ass multiple times, looking forward to having it with a newborn.

Marley629

Really appreciate this post!!!! Thank you for posting. Very helpful

sallywacket

CurlingRocks said:

And get a mesh bag (the kind for fine washables) to throw all those tiny socks in when doing the laundry.  I clothespinned one right onto the hamper and threw the socks in there from the get-go.  We didn't lose any!

you are amazing.  I think maybe 5 pairs of socks survived the first year still mated.  I will definitely do this next time! 

tittytwistertortoises

Ok I have a few:
1. Tearing- I had 4th degree tears which is the worst. Don't worry recovery wasn't that bad but during the 30 min stitch up DH, my mom and sister got to hold baby. I vividly remember looking over and feeling like I was missing out. Then DHs family was in the waiting room waiting to see DS. I felt obligated to let them in. I didn't have the immediate quality time I wanted. My advice is to get over feeling bad and demand to hold your baby and try nursing right away.
2. Yes, send dh home to sleep. It made the world of difference on the third day when I was exhausted.
3. It is normal for boys to pass a little blood in there pee.
4. Formula is not the enemy. My milk didn't come in until day 6 and it wasn't enough. Between nursing and pumping and formula, I felt like a bad mom that my boobies weren't working. Come to find out my 13 fibroid tumors might be blocking the ducts.
5. Scar tissue may grow over a stitch and it will have to be removed with nitrogen. It hurts like a bitch but definitely something I wish I knew about.

NavyMom77

My two additions:

Assuming the hospitals still have them (they did when I had my son 8 years ago), they will provide you with these wonderful cooling maxi pads that don't exist in the outside world. Stuff as many as you can into your overnight bag to take home for the first few days postpartum!!!! My nurse said that she'd restock as she saw them disappear from the bathroom and to take a few with me. We literally cleared out the stash after she'd restock and she'd come back, smile, and re-stock. They provided so much relief and aren't available for sale anywhere else.

When your milk comes in or as baby starts cutting out nighttime feedings or sleeps longer, you will be engorged and leak. Maybe I'm lazy, but I got really tired of changing my shirt multiple times a night. I wound up finding it much easier overall to sleep wearing a comfy nursing bra with absorbent pads or topless on a towel. These times are going to be uncomfortable no matter what, but there's no reason to stick yourself with extra laundry on top of it!

adoubleu12

All of this stuff is awesome!  
I definitely second, third, fourth the whole not being afraid to say no to visitors. The day after I got out of the hospital (Without my babies, they were in the NICU) I had a whole ton of people that wanted to come in and see them.  The morning was fine, with people coming and going, but then I had a rush of people come in at the same time.  I was past the limit the NICU would actually allow in the room (They didn't tell me until after they all left).  I ended up getting really overwhelmed and asking everyone to leave.  

Also, learning from a prolonged hospital stay and the NICU time, my hospital was willing to just give me a whole bunch of crap.  Take as much stuff as you can!  If they offer you more stuff, take it!  The mesh panties, the little milk storage bottles,  the little hand scrubbers (Great for baths and cradle cap!!)  diapers, even the plastic lap pads.  They just kept giving me stuff.  It all came in handy!  

TKtravels

I'm a FTM with nothing to contribute. 

I just want to say that I love you all.  Thanks for posting!

Lesley726

I also have nothing to contribute... I just wanted to say thank you to everyone for this post!! I can't even tell you how much stress just left my shoulders...THANK YOU!!!

A37licia

auroraloo said:

1. I had no need for cash.
   

2. Specially if you have pets, this gets them used to the stuff.
   

3. Yes.
   

   
   

4. Gas drops or gripe water! We didn't give Tylenol until after 2 months, and no ibuprofen until 6 months.
   

   
   

5. Pads were just fine for me. If you end up needing depends, send your H out post-birth. You'll know if you need them before you leave the hospital.
   

6. I prefer nursing tanks to tshirts. More comfy and easier to nurse in.
   

   
   
7. yes
   

8. I use the light of the video monitor if needed, that way it's still dark in the room most of the time.
   

9. Most hospitals will give you a pack of Tucks pads. but yes.
   

   
   

10. yes.
    

11. It won't hurt, but you'll probably hang around the house for a few days.
    

12. Not everyone has pain with breastmilk coming in, but it seems most do.
    

13. yep
    

14. We keep a tupperware container of baby stuff in the trunk of the car/van.
    

15. Don't open your pump until you know you'll be able to breastfeed. You can't return an opened pump. Once you know you'll be BFing, take it to an LC if you're worried.
    

16. Again, especially if you have pets that ride in your car. We took the dogs for rides with the car seat.
    

Ok what else ladies?  Lots varies from one mother's experience to the next. 

^ Just my experience with those things.

I will add, fill up your netflix queue and put headphones at your nighttime nursing station along with bottles of water. I watched 3 seasons of Burn Notice without waking H or DS while nursing overnight. Before bed put your laptop/ipad/tablet/something to watch on. I couldn't focus on reading at 12, 3, and 6 am, but I could zone out to a show.

TAKE STOOL SOFTENERS. PP pooping can hurt, but not nearly as bad if you're softening that shit (literally) up. Buy some Dulcolax, IB and Tylenol now so it's ready when you get home.

Huh. Thanks for the critique so I know my list is valid or not. You could have just added your own.

A37licia

laurelannie said:

Oh and also, I'll second, and third and fourth this forever and ever. Depends were my lifesaver, they were my hero forever and ever. 

Laurel, I'm not sure your friends or relatives want to dig the cash from your depends to run out and get you a pizza or groceries after the baby is born. Use a bank envelope instead.

Ok back to the original subject at hand!

disneyfan0511

I think it's a good list. I just want to add that labor is unpredictable so if things don't go exactly as planned just remember whatever happens you did what is best for your LO. No one can tell you otherwise!

And take EVERYTHING baby related in your room home with you, the hospital is charging you for it all so it's all yours. (ie bottles, diapers, wipes, etc)

JocelynB0911

Well this *suggestion* list escalated quickly. I'm sure people can figure out what is in their area and how accessible things are. Just because something worked for one person and didn't for another doesn't mean you need to over analyze a list and give it your approval which, auroraloo, you basically did. Calm your tits

JocelynB0911

auroraloo said:

JocelynB0911 said:

Well this *suggestion* list escalated quickly. I'm sure people can figure out what is in their area and how accessible things are. Just because something worked for one person and didn't for another doesn't mean you need to over analyze a list and give it your approval which, auroraloo, you basically did. Calm your tits

I did not give it my approval, I specifically said "just my experience" If people could always figure out what is in their area and how accessible things are there would never be any questions on this board, or any boards.

I gave my experience, and my suggestions. Which are different from the OPs. But silly me, I thought the point was to give different perspectives to help prepare people.

Now, tell me to GTFO with a cutesy little gif. You know you want to.

ETA: FYI, I'm probably going to link to this on another board, because it's ridiculous, and ridiculous shit gets cross-posted all the time. Just giving you all a heads up so you can prepare your "OMG YOU'RE EVIL FOR CROSS-POSTING" speeches.


Maybe I will post one just to ensure it does get an XP and we can all use our speeches that we prepared in advance just for your special self.

And no dear, there would still be questions on this. If you don't believe it you are in denial. But once again, someone starts something nice and here you come with your condescending ways seeming like you are invalidating her list. If you had something different to add then you should have added it not just listed what you agreed with from her list and what you didn't. It's like everyone thinks this is a helpful list and are adding their own ideas but then you stomp in saying "no,no,no not good enough!!" Typical.

Feel free to post this on whatever board you want and tell everyone how unnecessary my helicopter ride was. It's the one thing I can count on you to do today.

KaylaC0514

Good points!  Yes, stool softener is a must.  Another thing I was glad to have on hand was an Iron supplement.  I had a lot of blood loss and low Iron affects a lot of things including your milk supply.  And keep taking your prenatals. 

The peri bottle was my best friend, especially filled with warm water.  Helps things to... go easier.  I never spent the money on tucks, instead I bought witch hazel and soaked little cotton squares in a baggie and would lay them on my pad.  Very refreshing.  I was so sore because I had a 2nd degree tear.  I couldn't do stairs for like a month.

Things I wish I knew about BFing was, make sure baby is swallowing.  He might suck but not be getting anything and this could affect your milk flow.  Your breasts will be leaky so wear pads.  And dont expect to do anything other than nurse, eat, and sleep during the first month or so.

Your baby will most likely not sleep in the crib for the first few months.  I don't know what I would have done without our swing.  Sound machines & Halo sleep sacks are the best.

JocelynB0911

auroraloo said:

JocelynB0911 said:

Maybe I will post one just to ensure it does get an XP and we can all use our speeches that we prepared in advance just for your special self.

And no dear, there would still be questions on this. If you don't believe it you are in denial. But once again, someone starts something nice and here you come with your condescending ways seeming like you are invalidating her list. If you had something different to add then you should have added it not just listed what you agreed with from her list and what you didn't. It's like everyone thinks this is a helpful list and are adding their own ideas but then you stomp in saying "no,no,no not good enough!!" Typical.

Feel free to post this on whatever board you want and tell everyone how unnecessary my helicopter ride was. It's the one thing I can count on you to do today.

"No one can make you feel inferior [invalidated] without your consent." Eleanor Roosevelt
I was not criticising. If Alicia thought I was, that's on her.

I didn't say "not good enough" the post ASKED for people to add their thoughts and experiences. SO I DID. OMG.

How come you ONLY ever comment when you feel I've said something wrong, but never recognize when I give "good" advice or am quite helpful? Hmm? Because you don't want to admit that I'm not evil? That I might have something to add?

And I've never said a damned word about your helicopter ride. Or your experience over the past couple days, nor have I done anything to imply that it was unnecessary or superfluous. To imply that I would, or rather, flat out say that I would makes you a much worse person than you seem to think I am. Bad, bad form.


Looking at your past history, you have no issue bringing others l&d visits into conversations.

If I agreed with you I'd agree with it or thanks to the "love it" button would do so. And I think if I wanted to call you something I would have no issue doing so. If you honestly don't believe that then clearly you don't know how I operate. We both know I say what's on my mind.

revlaurawittman

auroraloo said:

JocelynB0911 said:

Well this *suggestion* list escalated quickly. I'm sure people can figure out what is in their area and how accessible things are. Just because something worked for one person and didn't for another doesn't mean you need to over analyze a list and give it your approval which, auroraloo, you basically did. Calm your tits

I did not give it my approval, I specifically said "just my experience" If people could always figure out what is in their area and how accessible things are there would never be any questions on this board, or any boards.

I gave my experience, and my suggestions. Which are different from the OPs. But silly me, I thought the point was to give different perspectives to help prepare people.

Now, tell me to GTFO with a cutesy little gif. You know you want to.

ETA: FYI, I'm probably going to link to this on another board, because it's ridiculous, and ridiculous shit gets cross-posted all the time. Just giving you all a heads up so you can prepare your "OMG YOU'RE EVIL FOR CROSS-POSTING" speeches.

I am seriously laughing so hard that I can't breathe right now.  I walk away from the bump for one day and I miss all the fun.

Aurora I promise this isn't directed at you, but now I feel an obligation to post a GTFO gif.  

JocelynB0911

auroraloo said:

JocelynB0911 said:

Looking at your past history, you have no issue bringing others l&d visits into conversations.

If I agreed with you I'd agree with it or thanks to the "love it" button would do so. And I think if I wanted to call you something I would have no issue doing so. If you honestly don't believe that then clearly you don't know how I operate. We both know I say what's on my mind.

Way to conveniently forget that I owned the Emlynn L&D thing and said I shouldn't have said it. Want to try again?

And the fact that you haven't ever agreed with me, or "loved" a post proves my point that you do not acknowledge that I have anything to offer. So I'm not sure where you're going with that. The most recent post that comes to mind is the pumping at work post.

I have no idea what you're talking about in regards to wanting to call me something.


A) just because you owned something doesn't mean it's not a part of your track record. So no, I'm not forgetting you owned up to it but I'm also lot forgetting you said it either.

the things that come to mind from you have always struck me as negative, which is why my dear, they are so few and far between.

C) re-read what you wrote about me wanting to flat out call you evil. As I said above, if I wanted to call you that or something else I would.