Hi everyone,
Regarding the incident that happened a few weeks ago: As I stated before, my decision to add a co-mod was made in error. I'm sorry that several of you were upset by the reversal that I made to correct that error.
First, MandyMack does a great job and does not need full-time assistance. Second, anyone who is chosen to be a moderator goes through a very strict screening process put in place by the community team. We reserve the right to decide whether a person qualifies for this position or not. Some of the things we look at are post history, and the ability to remain neutral in situations. The members who were nominated and chosen did not meet our qualifications. I hope this clears up any confusion.
Moving forward, the continued harassment of @Mandymack & @curlingrocks is completely unacceptable and won’t be tolerated. Any inflammatory comments directed towards either of them will result in an immediate ban.
This situation has gotten extremely out of hand, and I just want to be clear that this is the final stance we are taking. If there are threads discussing this issue further on a TB board, I am giving mods the right to immediately close the thread.
Thank you for understanding. If you have any further questions or need clarification, please email communitybump@xogrp.com.
Re: Updates
From, a curious lurker
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@Scatteredtrees and @sing4mysavior have always been exceptionally unbiased and very much down to earth. I don't think either of them had a single flag of abuse prior to this who blow up.
Our former co-mod was cool with a sex offender hanging out with her kid. What kind of screening process allows for that?
We asked for a co-mod because anytime we needed something from our mod she was MIA. Nobody had anything against her. She was very much liked, we just thought she needed help. That's it. Bumpjackie (notbumpjackie) agreed. Then everything exploded.
This is NOT up for discussion on this or any Bump board. You can take it up with BumpMay in a PM.
The warnings ARE coming @amy052006. Unfortunately, just reports of abuse from behavior of members on THIS board, have the reporting forum backed up 13 pages.
You'll be tagged so you know you have a PM.
Anyone with more than 5 violations will be banned. If you do not understand your banning or want to dispute it, again, you can take it up with BumpMay.
eclaire 9.10.06 diggy 6.2.11
"Go ahead and nominate a co-mod...just kidding" doesn't make any sense.
@olivegoose @bumpmay is new around here and The Bump Admin team as a whole decided she needed to address this board formally so that this could be put to bed and all Mods could return to their respective boards. I've been dealing with a lot, including personal illness and asked for help from all mods while this board was in shambles.
Read this post, accept it and it never has to be talked about again.
@amy052006 you made a statement about not yet receiving your warning. I was simply clearing things up for you and anyone else who feels they are due a warning or a ban. @rumbera28 has had many exchanges with you and was reminding you, once again, to drop it in a final warning about THAT particular issue. Mods work together so we all know how many warnings each poster has so that banning don't happen without cause. And it's not an accusation if it's true, we've all seen the comments coming through the reporting forum and everyone has discussed, at great length, everything that has commenced on this board the last two weeks.
@lattelady5 @MrsHarking it's not an opinion, it's an understood fact on how selecting Mods is done. @bumpmay was brand new, even to us, and acted before even introducing herself to us. Typically, help is either asked for my a mod for her own board or a Bump Admin will suggest a co-mod be added. Then, suggestions are made on the mod forum by ALL mods and by Bump Admin. Post histories are investigated and lots of other steps are taken and THEN, those Bumpies are contacted, asking if they would be interested. Once nominees are confirmed, a poll is brought to the board.
@auroraloo when many of you crossed the line into relentlessly harassing me and @curlingrocks you lost all respect and credibility and faith that you could behave as civilized, decent, compassionate human beings. Your behavior didn't warrant anything outside of being handled as toddlers having an extreme temper-tantrum.
eclaire 9.10.06 diggy 6.2.11
A bit confused here. It was said directly to Amy and was so far beyond rude that your comments fall into hostile territory. So I'm not understanding how your comments weren't personal? You can PM me as I'm understanding that the community at large doesn't deserve an explanation of issues that affect the board. Thanks.
Grateful that we've had a say in anything that's happened here...? Yup, totally grateful. Because you guys have listened so well....oh wait...
If it was, as you said, an understood fact, how come @bumpmay, acting on behalf of the mod of the mods, was not aware of the process?
Also, @Gwapes got banned immediately after posting that GIF...
The recent events show, that if anything a co-mod was a really, reasonable request considering there are now multiple mods here.
Not that you've shown an ounce of compassion or anything that would lead me to believe you care but there was a horrific car accident in my family that day. The Bump was NOT a priority. It took me days just to get my affairs in order so that I could leave town. But thank you for, once again, inaccurately portraying me as someone who just doesn't give a shit.
eclaire 9.10.06 diggy 6.2.11
If it was, as you said, an understood fact, how come @bumpmay, acting on behalf of the mod of the mods, was not aware of the process?
Also, @Gwapes got banned immediately after posting that GIF...
The recent events show, that if anything a co-mod was a really, reasonable request considering there are now multiple mods here.
Things didn't get crazy until no one answered the questions that were being asked. All of this information is what was originally requested. Also, it seems a little biased to have other mods decide whether or not mods are being harassed.
eclaire 9.10.06 diggy 6.2.11
eclaire 9.10.06 diggy 6.2.11
I am not good with timelines, so I don't remember when everything happened. Honestly though, did you think leaving a post telling AG that she had messages that she was about to be banned would EVER go over well? It was sure to be a shit storm and it was. We wanted clarification from some mod ANY mod about the bigot warnings and no one would explain anything and we thought she would get banned. I don't know AG personally, but it seemed poorly handled and lots of people were upset that a regular was going to be banned. I don't know how the timeline played out, but it didn't seem reaching to have someone else mod so that way when you're not available as per living on the west coast would understandably make it so, that the board would have answers some answers, any answers when shit hits the fan, as it so often inevitably does on the bump.
eclaire 9.10.06 diggy 6.2.11
Seriously. The explanation given makes no sense. Employees don't train the boss. And if the process scattered started wasn't how it was supposed to happen why didn't you @Mandymack step in and say "hey guys, this isn't how co-mods are elected. You guys need to do xyz to make this work." The polling and discussing of polling and nominating happens over a couple days.There was plenty of time for our mod to step in and stop the process.
*Going back into Lurkdom*
People keep trying to explain everything saying that the co-mod nomination had nothing to do with her, but the green light was on right up until MM came back and said she didn't like that idea. You guys don't have to explain it to us, but people will always be curious and wonder.
Since the terms of the TOU seem unclear, at least to me, and If I have warranted any warnings, I am only mobile, so I cannot see any PMs.
@lexusolsen – I’ve answered the question about the co-mod debacle twice now. Would you mind reading up a bit, please? The Terms of Use, a team of Bump Admins, and lastly, the mods, deemed some behavior here harassment and BumpMay reviewed it, agreed with it and came here to make a statement about it today. No single mod just shouts "harassment" (or any violation, really) and has carte blanche to act on it. We are a team and always work together.
@MrsHarking – please read up as I’ve explained it above, it quickly got burried.
@nowababy – just as you care about this board, so do I. All mods go above and beyond to protect the members of the boards they were asked to or volunteered to moderate. I never cared about a co-mod – go back a page or two and read the threads where I stated this publicly. The channels matter immensely! Many of us have bonded over IF, losses, divorce, moves, etc. and rely on the Terms of Use to keep the boards a safe and welcoming place. Thank you for your concern, I did take a bumpcation. For over a week while I was out of the state. Other mods and BumpMay came here on my behalf so that I could step away from everything and be with my family.
@cnamom – they can email communitybump@xogrp.com themselves.
@aussie45 – thank you for the sentiment. It’s really hard for me to continue speaking with you when you won’t go back and read the post you are referring to so you can see for yourself what I DID and DID NOT do. Please do that and then, ask me whatever is still unclear. I understand how your perception and/or AG’s account of what happened seemed poorly managed to you all; however, I, every other Mod here and BumpMay will say the same thing: the details are between her and the Bump Admin who banned her (I did not ban her!). I will say it again and again if I need to but what happens with a poster is none of anyone else’s business so, no matter how many pages you all filled up in that thread that day, getting angrier and angrier with every passing moment of silence, no one was going to “answer your questions” because at this time, you don’t have the right to another person’s privacy. However, having said all that, the mods have opened this very discussion up to BumpMay as we all feel there could be a middle ground that could help all posters better understand the TOU and post accordingly. Once there is any movement, if there is any, I will post here for all of you to see.
@amy052006 I’m bogged down HERE, answering all your (the general “you”) questions. I will get to you.
eclaire 9.10.06 diggy 6.2.11
@PetraStonegirl, I actually find you to be the most level-headed mod here and I can see that you are interested in reclaiming some normalcy (or at least finding a new norm) on this board. It just appears there are too many mods trying to right this wrong, and that is just adding fuel to the fire with the multiple confusing justifications/rules/excuses/etc. I get there's probably a lot of behind-the-scenes drama we are not privy to, but I feel that what would go a long way would be an acknowledgement (dare I say apology?) that the original co-mod debacle was facilitated by people who have been put in leadership roles. Perhaps some good restructuring will come from all of this, but there are those of us that have been a part of the Bump who feel this was a very shady debacle from the get go and a very poor way to run a business.
Thanks for the top to access my PMs.
eclaire 9.10.06 diggy 6.2.11
I will also be back tomorrow and every day after if this conversation needs to continue.
eclaire 9.10.06 diggy 6.2.11