TTGP w/o Jan 6

aisleofviewtwo · January 6

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WAYDTGKU (BD/TI/IVF/FET/Benched/etc.):

WTO/TWW:

Timing/CS:

How are things going? Any questions?:

R/R:

emeraldcity603 · January 6

WAYDTGKU (BD/TI/IVF/FET/Benched/etc.): BD, chatting with Tempdrop

WTO/TWW: WTO; I expect to get my temp shift tomorrow. I was actually expecting it today but it didn’t happen. I know I’m ovulating though. So it should be here in the next day or two.

Timing/CS:

How are things going? Any questions?: when I’m not TTC my fertile signs are so clear and obvious. The minute we switch my signs feel like they are muffled. I also realize this has to do with him throwing off my ability to accurately identify CM. I find it annoying though. Plus, my fertile window took forever to open. This cycle has been wonky. Expected considering how it started. I guess I’m anxious to be in the TWW.

R/R: I went cross country skiing last night on a new trail. Several hills and lots of trails with more advanced people flying past me. This was only my third time skiing. Anyways, the trail started off with a decent sized hill. We haven’t gotten a lot of snow so it was somewhat icy. I flew down that hill. To top it off it also curved around a corner. By the time I was able to stop I was shaking. I was not prepared to go down any hill at that speed. Not until I got more comfortable. I’m suppose to do that trail again on the 12th. I really hope we get more snow so I can actually dig my skis into something. By some miracle I didn’t fall on any of those hills.

aisleofviewtwo · January 6

@emeraldcity603 It's so funny (read: frustrating) how our bodies can seem so consistent for months or even years and then it feels like the second you start watching closely it suddenly all appears wonky

WAYDTGKU (BD/TI/IVF/FET/Benched/etc.): FET/Benched

WTO/TWW: LP, last dose of OCP was 1/4 so just waiting for CD1

Timing/CS: N/A

How are things going? Any questions?: Initial cycle visit is scheduled for Thursday 1/9. Hoping we see two nice, quiet ovaries and can get the letrozole started before follicles try any funny business.

R/R: I finally figured out why I've been getting injured every. single. time I try to start up running since I moved to a new city 2.5 years ago. I was feeling a little crazy and starting to worry I had some autoimmune or degenerative illness going on. Turns out it's a ridiculous problem but an easy fix. Background: My right leg is about an inch longer than my left. When I've gotten the rare injury in the past, it did tend to be on my right side, I think because it bears more weight. But my leg was hurting every time I tried to add any significant mileage at all. The situation: I no longer live near a large park with running trails, so I'm mostly doing neighborhood running. My neighborhood doesn't have sidewalks. The roads do have a significant camber. Have you spotted the problem yet? I was running in the street into oncoming traffic—safety first— the unfortunate side effect of which is that the slope was higher for my right leg than my left, ensuring that it took EVEN MORE of the load. The solution: Now I just run either smack in the center of the road or with traffic (it's a quiet enough neighborhood this isn't a huge deal), and poof! the pain is gone. I did 4 miles on Saturday and 1.5 miles on Sunday and for the first time in a long time I feel like I can actually get back to the version of me that was running half marathons just a few years ago!

mambo5-2 · January 6

WAYDTGKU (BD/TI/IVF/FET/Benched/etc.): Uh probably benched and waiting to talk to doctor

WTO/TWW: WTO

Timing/CS: Nope

How are things going? Any questions?: TW

I'm actively having a CP and waiting for the doctor to call and tell me that. Which is cool. It's going SWIMMINGLY.

R/R: If it's going to be cold, it should snow. Also I broke my ankle really bad in May and now have a bunch of metal and screws but when it's cold it hurts so bad.

emeraldcity603 · January 6

@aisleofviewtwo I’m glad you found a solution to the problem and you can run longer distances. I used to run years ago. I would like to build back up to it again.

@mambo5-2 TW….

I’m sorry you’re going through this. The start of my current cycle is a CP. I haven’t sat it out because most people don’t even know they are having a CP unless they are testing. I had one a few years back and I also didn’t sit that cycle out. Obviously I’m new to the board so I’m unaware of your history but a CP isn’t necessarily treated like other losses that happen further into the first trimester. Your OB may tell you to sit it out for dating purposes but that typically isn’t an issue if you’re temping and charting your cycle closely. At least not with a CP.

britters314 · January 6

WAYDTGKU (BD/TI/IVF/FET/Benched/etc.): BD

WTO/TWW: WTO (CD 6)

Timing/CS: Will try to BD EOD at least

How are things going? Any questions?: Idk if it’s that the holidays have ended or just that my hormones are still regulating, but I’ve just been stressing and getting frustrated about the tiniest things. Hopefully getting back to a regular schedule will help.

R/R: We got snow today! Just a dusting, though. I’m jealous of the places that got a ton

britters314 · January 7

@emeraldcity603 I’ve been skiing once and I’m never going again lol. It was way too fast for my liking! Maybe cross country skiing wouldn’t be too bad though. Are the hills smaller than regular ski runs?

@aisleofviewtwo FX everything looks good at your appointment!

emeraldcity603 · January 7

@britters314 you can do hills with cross country skiing but definitely not down the side of a mountain. There were some decent hills on some of the trails I saw last night. Hills I don’t think I’ll be ready to try for a very long time. I think the fact that we haven’t had much snow made the trails icier and I just couldn’t dig my skis in to slow myself down. We did the “easy” trail which is very humbling. 😅 I haven’t fallen on any of the hills and I’m so glad. I’m terrified of falling on ice after I broke my wrist a few years back. I’m hoping we get some snow before Friday because I’m suppose to go back out and we are doing that trail again. I may not go if we don’t get some snow. The people I am going with are more experienced and want to go faster than I am capable of.

virginiaham · January 7

Hiiiii I've been on the bench since September and allllmost off. TW history and 2024 recap

We've been trying for a third since early 2023 with hx of PCOS, MTHFR mutation, RPL/IF (unexplained), & hashimoto's. We have 2 LCs and a history of RPL x7, including 3 in 2024--the first one required a D&C four days before packers came to move us across the country and I was SO sick with bronchitis/pneumonia I was afraid I wouldn't even be able to have it done; the last one was while MH was on deployment. Then they found a skin cancer that needed a Mohs, my TSH shot up randomly, and we had to say goodbye to our dog unexpectedly for what we think was stomach cancer.

Starting in September we've worked remotely with a NYC fertility specialist along the lines of reproductive immunology to investigate a little further, as well as consult with a local fertility OB/GYN who can run the tests and do the monitoring -- which is perfect, I don't need the full RE workup again (just to be told it's unexplained but we recommend IVF), there isn't a RE close here anyway, and we are near the end of our TTC stage of life / won't do anything invasive.

I did an empirical round of antibiotics and will start medicated/TI cycles hopefully this month. My NK cells were elevated so we will add Prednisone starting CD12, in addition to the cocktail I've been on before. We think with my history of almost all early losses and a normal genetic testing with the D&C, that my biggest issue may be weak ovulation which then can't adequately sustain an early pregnancy, so that's what the medicated cycle is after--a good, strong ovulation. Maybe it's that simple, maybe not. We are going into 2025 holding all of this with a really open hand.

@mambo5-2 I'm glad your H is ok!! I'm sorry for what you're going through right now.

@aisleofviewtwo Hoping for a good appointment this week!

WAYDTGKU (BD/TI/IVF/FET/Benched/etc.): If TSH comes back normal today/tomorrow, then just waiting for CD1 in the next few days and starting a monitored Femara/TI cycle.

R/R: The 2024/2025 year turnover hit me emotionally--we made it through 2024.

How are things going? Any questions?: I'm at CD26/11dpo and already spotting

If CD1 starts tomorrow and we start a treatment cycle, the CD12 ultrasound would fall on the weekend. It's probably not an issue with the office, but I'm hoping AF holds off until Thursday.

PS Yeah I’m team no skiing; maybe cross country. Speaking of things that people said I should totally go do (neglecting to mention someone should teach you how to stop). Catch me by the fireplace sipping something hot.

virginiaham · January 8

TSH is back, they want it below 2.5, it’s literally 2.49 🙌

pinkkillersheep · January 8

Agghh I had my post almost done and the app ate it

WAYDTGKU (BD/TI/IVF/FET/Benched/etc.):

BD

WTO/TWW:

WTO

Timing/CS:

It’s CD14 and I wasn’t expecting to ovulate until the weekend due to longer cycles, but I randomly got EWCM yesterday.

How are things going? Any questions?:

No clue what to expect for this cycle. The husband is traveling the next couple days so if I really am ovulating early that would be unfortunate. I was going to temp this time but the battery is dead and we haven’t made it to the store. We got hit by the ice and snow storm earlier this week and it shut the whole area down.

R/R:
We had a fun time sledding on Sunday! But now it’s just cold and icy out.

@emeraldcity603 +1 for being annoyed with my body for only sending clear ovulation signals when I’m not trying.
@aisleofviewtwo I’ve been doing PT for repeated back injuries and it’s crazy how small imbalances can cause so much pain! Glad you were able to figure it out.
@mambo5-2 Dealing with metal and screws in your ankle during winter sounds miserable! I hope you don’t have to venture out too much. I assume you guys also have really cold temps coming in the next few days.
@britters314 The end of the holidays hit me pretty hard too. I immediately went into vacation planning mode to compensate.
@virginiaham Wow, you had quite a year. Here’s hoping 2025 is better for you. I’m right with you on sitting in the lodge drinking hot chocolate while everyone else is skiing. I didn’t do it growing up and feel like it’s not a great skill to try to learn in adulthood.

mambo5-2 · January 8

@virginiaham I'll join you in the land of weird and crazy stuff. Fingers crossed for all of your things lining up for a medicated cycle!

emeraldcity603 · January 8

@pinkkillersheep beginner level cross country skiing isn’t like downhill skiing. You could stay completely flat if you wanted. I just have a crazy friend who thought I would do great on the icy hills. 😜 A bunch of my friends are taking downhill skiing lessons this year and I declined to join. I cannot afford to break any bones. My MIL would need to come live with me for a month or two if I did. I broke my wrist really bad a few years back and she had to come stay for 2 months to help me. I’m glad she was willing and able but I’m not sure she could swing that this year. She is always telling me to stop going on crazy adventures. 😂

emeraldcity603 · January 8

I’m hoping today is a noticeable point of change and my fertile window closes. If it doesn’t, our timing is bad. I have been sick the last few days and exhausted so we haven’t had a chance to fit anything else in. This is my first cycle temping for 17 months. I have just been tracking CM. I know I ovulated and I’m expecting my window to close. I was just disappointed I didn’t see a temp shift this morning. Maybe I’m having a delayed shift? I plan to count DPO based off of my peak day and I’m very confident that was yesterday based on my previous cycles/patterns.

britters314 · January 8

Joining everyone else with body being weird this cycle (though at least I was expecting it after not ovulating last cycle). Yesterday I had so much EWCM and then today none but no temp rise.

On the topic of skiing, we do a trip to the mountains regularly with H’s extended family. While they all go skiing, I head to the spa and get a hot stone massage. That’s much more enjoyable to me lol

emeraldcity603 · January 9

Well, yesterday was not what I was hoping for. At this point, we may be out just because our timing hasn’t been good. I realized the possibility a few days ago but I have been too sick and tired to do anything about it. I had DH (he is an MD) check my lungs because I was getting better and then started getting worse again. Pneumonia has been going around along with some other nasty viruses. I’m suppose to go to a spa with a bunch of my friends this Saturday so I’m hoping I’m better by then.

virginiaham · January 9

@emeraldcity603 ugh sorry you got the bug! I just had something similar and even with a good cocktail of meds/lung hygiene strategies my body was slow to mend. I hope you turn the corner and it passes quickly.

CD1 here, here we go 🙏

mambo5-2 · January 9

@emeraldcity603 the bugs going around have been terrible. We've got ear infections in the house right now and I was like aren't we too old for this nonsense?!

emeraldcity603 · January 9

@mambo5-2 It’s been nonstop for weeks. We started with a stomach bug and just kept getting hit one after another. We even have pink eye right now. 🙄

ferret22 · January 10

Sorry to hear so many of you are sick, we're still slowly healing from the last major cold. I feel like the sicknesses have been harder to heal from this fall/winter.

Welcome back @virginiaham, I hope your 2025 is better.

WAYDTGKU (BD/TI/IVF/FET/Benched/etc.): TI

WTO/TWW: TWW

Timing/CS: BD on -1, now at 2dpo

How are things going? Any questions?:
I also had a weird cycle in a good way. Normally my LH peak is tiny but this time it was a massive spike. That happens every once in a while for me and I feel like it's a good thing. It was very easy to time things thanks to the clear peak.

R/R: Rave: we got a good amount of snow, and spouse made hot cocoa tonight. Cozy.

aisleofviewtwo · January 10

@virginiaham (re: TSH) in range is in range!!

Sounds like this cycle is off to a fortuitous start.

@ferret22 Yay for a good weird and a clear peak! We've also had a snowy week. One of my absolute favorite things is a rainy or snowy day where I don't have to go outside and just get to snuggle up with my cats and a good book.

@emeraldcity603 Ugh, sorry to hear you've been so unwell. I hope things turn around and you're on the mend soon.

@pinkkillersheep PT is always so humbling, who knew that tiny muscle was responsible for all my woes, and moving it like 2 inches in a particular way is nigh impossible?

My initial cycle visit was yesterday and while neither my nurse nor I understand why, I've been cleared to proceed with a natural modified cycle. Yay??

The confusion stems from the fact that my bloodwork and ultrasound are almost identical to my November cycle that got cancelled. (Deets in spoiler below.) My experience with IVF has been that they try to keep patients in the loop by sharing results, but ultimately give just enough information to make you crazy and not nearly enough to actually understand their decision-making process. So trying to put my trust in the RE with all the degrees and experience in this field, and telling myself she sees something in this cycle that makes her think it could work—and that can't be a bad thing.

ICV landed on CD2. I once again already have a lead follicle,11.4mm, and estradiol is 118 pg/mL.
Last cycle's numbers at the ICV were 11.5mm follicle and 139 pg/mL estradiol, and I was told we couldn't proceed because once there's a dominant follicle others don't tend to join in and/or letrozole won't work when estradiol gets above a certain (unspecified) level. Maybe the cutoff is in the 120-130 range?

britters314 · January 10

@aisleofviewtwo That is confusing, with your numbers being almost the same. Are you doing a retrieval this cycle or just a transfer?

aisleofviewtwo · January 11

@britters314 Just an FET. There’s a lot of backstory, but the gist is that we’re looking for a very specific scenario for a modified natural cycle, otherwise doc wants us to go controlled. My understanding is that if this were a natural or even a typical modified natural cycle, my numbers would be totally fine/normal/not a big deal.

mambo5-2 · January 11

@aisleofviewtwo IVF is such a mindF

emeraldcity603 · January 11

Well, I have waited and waited for my temp shift and it isn’t happening. Today I suddenly have EWCM again. So, I guess my window is opening up again. At least we will have good timing. DH just finished a run of night shifts and is off this next week. Hopefully my body can actually ovulate this time.

britters314 · January 12

Does anyone else feel like their husband is just way more apathetic about TTC than you are? H says he wants more kids, but wants it to just happen and said he’s concerned I’m “obsessed” because I want to keep talking about avenues we can try. Like, dude, it’s been ten years, it’s not going to just happen. One of us needs to be proactive. But I feel like I’ve heard other people say similar things about their partners. Maybe it’s just how men are?

peppyj9 · January 12

WAYDTGKU (BD/TI/IVF/FET/Benched/etc.): BD/TI

WTO/TWW: TWW, I think? Have fertile CM again so is my window opening again?

Timing/CS: I think on day 0, but my cycle was weird this month

How are things going? Any questions?: according to my OPK I ovulated 2 days earlier than usual, my app even said it was unusual. I tried temping but then the battery died (brand new thermometer too, wtf) and so I was sort of in a scramble and to BD and we've both been exhausted coming down from the holiday marathon, and we're planning for my son's 5th birthday party this weekend, and so hubby wasn't in the mood. So we got a session in on day 0 according to OPK, but -2 if I were to ovulate according to my app which has been consistent for the last several months. I know that's not a guarantee of anything, but still.

R/R: I'm just tired of feeling like I'm the only one whose heart is in the whole TTC. Like yes, hubby wants a baby but every time I tell him I'm in my fertile window he says it feels like too much pressure and often struggles to perform or says he's not in the mood and we often don't get in as many tries as I would like. And I try to be understanding but like, you don't think I'M feeling pressure? I'm the one peeing on sticks and temping every morning. I also am trying to BD when I'm sometimes not in the mood because I only have so many windows left, so can you just stop whining and give me your sperm? 😫

peppyj9 · January 12

@britters314 yes! I think it's really common unfortunately. See my rant in my post above.

britters314 · January 12

@peppyj9 Well it’s good to know we aren’t the only ones having this issue at least. I’ll just have to keep in mind that it’s normal (and let H know that my level of investment is also normal lol)

emeraldcity603 · January 12

@britters314 Yes, I think it’s a man thing. My husband would be the same.

@peppyj9 I think it’s normal for men to feel pressure and then struggle to perform. One way to combat this is to go to your husband and say, “let’s agree to BD at least every 3 days all cycle.” Then do not inform him of where you are in your cycle. I wouldn’t even make him aware of your period (if you can). Keep him in the dark as much as possible. That way, there is no need to feel pressure because he has no clue when your fertile window is approaching or even open. I have dealt with this before, can you tell? 😅

pinkkillersheep · January 13

My husband readily acknowledges that he doesn’t feel the same sense of urgency since he doesn’t have a clock ticking quite as loudly.
@emeraldcity603 Super impressed at your ability to BD every three days! Even just hitting twice in a window feels like a lot for me.
I have no idea where I’m at in my cycle right now. Is it the TWW? Am I still WTO? No clue. The husband is traveling the next five days so timing is whatever it is, if I hit the timing at all. Guess we’ll find out in 2-3 weeks.

peppyj9 · January 13

@emeraldcity603 this is great advice! Though I'll admit I feel a little bitter that it still requires most of the effort to be on me while he just gets to relax and show up for s3x 😒 but I guess we do what we gotta do!

@pinkkillersheep if I recall you were almost exactly with me cycle wise, but you were 1 day ahead. So, if that's true, and if your cycle is fairly consistent, you should've O'd on the 7th. That's just a numbers game of course, but at least it gives you a ballpark. Either way it's just a waiting game at this point 😪

ferret22 · January 13

Same here with the spouse. He gets really stressed by fertility talk so all the thinking is on me. We're lucky if we can get one BD in my window, he's just not that interested. 🤦

peppyj9 · January 13

@ferret22 it's so frustrating!

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