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Whooping Cough Vaccine

bbbianca2023bbbianca2023 member
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What do you think about the Whooping cough vaccine? Necessary? Not necessary? Possibly harmful? Effects unknown?
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Re: Whooping Cough Vaccine

  • swizzlemalarkeyswizzlemalarkey member
    I will always choose a vaccine over an infection that can kill my child or make them very sick
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  • 00kim0000kim00 member
    swizzlemalarkey said:
    I will always choose a vaccine over an infection that can kill my child or make them very sick
    This. This vaccine has been around a long time, we know the effects and we know it's not harmful. Personally I decided it was necessary for me and the adults who would be around my child. But you have the right as a large to decide if it's worth the risk to your child's life to not get the vaccine.
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  • thoseboysmamathoseboysmama member
    We never get this one and have never had a problem. People who are around babe are just asked to not come if they are or have been sick. I think vaccines are good, but I don't think they are always the solution. If it makes you more comfortable then request it for others and get it yourself. 
    I would really dig into all the vaccines though. The more children I have had, the more skeptical I have been of how many and which ones are truly necessary at such young age for them to get. 
    Everyone has different lives and different situations. So what works for 1 may not work for another. 
    I wish you the best in navigating the vaccine world. It's a deep dive when you go down that rabbit hole. 
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  • WishilivedinfloridaWishilivedinflorida member
    This vaccine is very well studied. Whooping cough can be deadly to a baby. I urge you to discuss with your OB more and not go down the “rabbit hole” as PP suggests (which is non scientific misinformation). 

    There’s a term for “never had a problem”. It’s called survivor bias and it’s dangerous to base your decisions off others’ good fortune. 

    Please discuss with your provider. They are the expert!
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  • thoseboysmamathoseboysmama member
    edited March 2023
    Apparently I have survivor bias. As does everyone in my family and in our community. No one has gotten this vaccine and have been fine. I think it's obvious to speak to your doctor, why i didnt state it. Pretty ignorant to assume you'd not do that or have the intellect to do so, but PP seems to think you don't.  Your doctor will also have a medical bias of vaccines. Something to consider as well. 

    One doctor I had pushed for myself and children to have vaccines his did not have or need in his opinion because of their lifestyle. He never once asked me about our lifestyle. 

    I think educating yourself with factual information is a big step to take into parenthood. I wish I had before my 1st. I trusted the "professionals".  Just because the information differs from the studies done by vaccine pushers, does not make it misinformation. Contrary to the popular belief of PP. 
     
    I have ran a daycare and was a nanny for years. Never have any children around me had whooping cough. It does have outbreaks at times. But again everyone is in different situations. If your child won't be socialized too much at a young age then it may not be as necessary as one who is or has older siblings who are. 

    Another thing to consider is the genetic susceptibility that your child may or may not have. If your family get lung related illnesses or had allergies that are intense then it would probably be best to get it. There are soo many factors in making these decisions. It's not black and white as many would have you believe. 

    It's a great question and a great debate. I think both sides are correct and am not ignorant enough to believe one is more right or wrong than another. By standing on one side vehemently you are doing yourself a disservice. 
    As I said with the more children I have had I have become much less a strict vaccine person. I've done a vast amount of research down a rabbit hole that is not full of misinformation and chosen that. I still understand why someone would get it and don't think they are misinformed even though I disagree. I think they have a different view and that's fine and healthy. 

    I really wish debate was a mandated course for people in school. Many would approach questions like this with much more class if so. 
    Good luck on your decision. 
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  • swizzlemalarkeyswizzlemalarkey member
    edited March 2023
    Just google pertussis symptoms and what the cough sounds like and think about if you’d be willing to put your infant through that for weeks and idk it’s just a no brainer for me. But I’m also always team science 🤷🏻‍♀️

    ETA: herd immunity/low risk of exposure is nice and all. But sometimes people are contagious with viruses before they show symptoms, or they’re asymptomatic. Why risk it? There’s a reason why they recommend a booster in third tri. They wouldn’t recommend it if it wasn’t a thing. 
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  • WishilivedinfloridaWishilivedinflorida member
    Lol @ “medical bias of vaccines.”

    It’s called years of training, combing scientific studies with peer review and statistics, extensive study of infectious disease transmission, treatment, prevention, etc. Laymen are not trained to discern or interpret this stuff. So forgive me, without training, you cannot simply decide your research is correct or not misinformation. 

    Sure, it’s some grand conspiracy to “push vaccines” that includes 99% of the medical profession has ascribed to somehow in grand consensus. 

    And yes, I will always recommend taking to a provider. If you’re on an Internet forum asking questions you should ask a provider, it should be stated. 
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  • thoseboysmamathoseboysmama member
    edited March 2023
    To assume someone layman is funny. This is a huge talking point in my community. I have many family members who are very medically inclined and placed who do not suggest vaccines. IMO saying 99% is a very vague and unfactual percentage. Some may even say "misinformation" 😄  how dare one spread such ideologies. 

    Technically, we all have survivor bias. As we all have survived. You have just as much if not more bias in the way you survived as you allude I do to the way I survived.
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  • crochetmom88crochetmom88 Newbie
    You posted this quite a while ago but I thought I'd recommend a read on this topic. The Vaccine Friendly Plan is a book written by a long-time pediatrician who has an incredibly balanced and scientific, evidence-based approach to vaccines. The book doesn't only address vaccines but some tangential concerns like diet, pharmaceuticals, exposure to substances and so on but I only read it for the vaccines. I feel confident with the choices I'll be expressing when the time comes because of this book. We are getting only specific vaccines, and spread out more than the CDC recommended schedule. What's best for one baby isn't what's best for another, so it's a decision I feel should be based on your unique situation and needs.
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