I don’t think we have a Covid-specific thread but I’ve seen other BMBs have them.
Just had my 16w check up and as of today they’re giving boosters! I’m scheduled a week from today. As long as you’re 28 days out from your second shot you can schedule your booster (don’t have to wait the 6 months because we’re in the immuno compromised category). This may differ by location, of course, but hopefully there will be some uniformity of practice soon.
I'm hoping they will offer boosters here soon. I'm 9 months out from my shot. And from what data from the USA is showing, efficacy starts to wane slightly around 6-8 months. So I'm nervous. Especially since we are starting to hit the 4th wave. And the whole.. pregnancy weakens our immune system..
I just got my first shot Friday and will be getting my second October 22. It was a big decision for me, because even though I know it’s safe I just get super nervous. Not explicitly because of the vaccine, but because of what happened in my first pregnancy(won’t say in this topic) I literally am almost scared to breathe some days. Haha.
Anyway, I only told my mom and MIL outside of DH, because I know most of my mom’s side of the family is very antivax. Low and behold, my mom told her mother, who told my aunt. This aunt saw fit to harass me today telling me I’m wrecking my immune system and poisoning myself and the baby and not to get the second shot if I care about my child. I tried to play it off cool and tell her I respectfully disagree, but I’m so flustered I want to cry. Second tri is already the time I feel most anxious and I don’t want to deal with this while trying to the best for me and my baby.
@faithmovesmountains I completely get how you feel. I am vaccinated too, but was harassed by some family over it. It was really hard on me and I really struggled with the backlash. I'm not saying anything when I get the booster. My mental health can't handle it. Hopefully you can tune them out. I know it is hard though.
Edit: I edited out some of my comment because I got a wave of anxiety that someone I know will read this and it will cause issues.
@faithmovesmountains I am so so sorry your aunt said such cruel things to you. That would be heartbreaking during an already anxiety-heavy time. Ugh. I know I’m an internet stranger but for what it’s worth, I think you’re doing the best thing for you and your baby. And I can only imagine how difficult those decisions could be given your past experiences. If anything, that just tells me that you’re extra wise and thoughtful and deliberate about what you do to protect yourself and your baby and that makes you such a great mama. I hope your antivax family can be taught some boundaries on this subject and that they can at least honor your decision without abusing you. Big hug.
Im 14 weeks pregnant and am so torn about getting the vaccine. Originally I had no plans on getting it any time soon. Then once I found out I am pregnant I have really been considering but I am so worried that I will get the vaccine and my baby will have side effects from it and then years down the road after more research has been done they’ll decide that pregnant women shouldn’t be getting the vaccine.
@mandaleigh2015 have you discussed your concerns with your OB? Your questions/concerns are well-placed and you’re doing the right thing researching. Long term effects from vaccination arent really a concern historically. Long term effects are something we think about with medications, but vaccine technology is such that effects, if there are any, are experienced in the days/weeks after a vaccine, not years later. And that’s an established expectation with all vaccines, not just Covid.
The consensus of doctors (American Council of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, ACOG, is cited often) is that the risk to you and baby in a Covid infection is very high. But there is no similar risk in vaccination. So if you’re weighing the risk of infection vs the risk of vaccination, the known risks of infection (maternal death, preterm labor, pregnancy loss) far outweigh the risks of vaccination.
But these are all things your OB or midwife should be prepared to discuss with you so you feel empowered in making the best decision for you and baby.
Oh man, I hadn't realized that pregnant women were considered part of the immunosuppressed population that qualified for the 3rd booster. I'll talk to my doctor about it but I'm very hesitant about getting it because I bled for almost 6 weeks straight after the first round. That doesn't seem like a good side effect when you're pregnant?!?
ETA That was my personal experience, I've spoken with my women who didn't have that side effect!
First and second shot in Dec and Jan and booster shot the first week of September. I read a small sample, anecdotal study saying researchers were finding pregnant people had little to no side effects with boosters. I felt terrible after my first and second shots and was dreading the side effects with the booster. I had no side effects other than a sore arm after my booster.
I also had my antibody level tested before the booster and 3 weeks after. I went from 998 to 17,435. Definitely effective!
I’m among Covid+ patients every day I work and have seen some significantly ill pregnant moms who were otherwise young and healthy. For me, it was not even a consideration to not get it. I understand everyone has their own feelings on the matter though.
Just this week we had to have a few conversations with immediate family members outlining our expectations for when baby is born. Covid, flu, and recent TDaP vaccine required to visit until babe is old enough to be vaccinated. My sisters specifically are the ones still unvaccinated. It sucked. They still haven’t responded. We’ll see what happens.
@night_nurse I think it’s helpful to have those expectations laid out early like that, we’re doing the same. Gives them more time to really think about it and gives you time to emotionally process if they refuse. It’s all so hard. I’m happy to hear your booster experience was smooth! I’m hoping for the same. I didn’t have any bad reactions to the first two so fingers crossed.
@michelle_bird definitely worth a discussion with your doctor. You might decide you’d rather wait until later in pregnancy, etc. I have asthma, too, so I just feel like being AMA, having asthma, having an unvaccinated toddler at home, they all just made me want to boost my protection and hopefully pass on those sweet antibodies to the baby.
I just got my booster Tuesday, my arm was sore yesterday and I was a little fatigued but that could also be because I'm pregnant, not sleeping well, and have 2 kids already... so, I'm not certain it was booster related @night_nurse my family knows the drill about vaccinations being up to date before visiting with the baby because of my first 2, MH family is new to this with me and we're going to have those conversations as well. BIL and SIL have opted not to have their 4 children vaccinated and I've already prepped MH for the difficult conversation he's going to need to have with his mother about "picking" which family can visit for holidays. Fortunately, my other SIL plans to follow routine vaccine schedules and ultimately when they have a baby it'll be 2 of the brothers against 1. It sucks that it has to be that way, but I will protect myself and my babies at all costs, even from family.
@night_nurse@jlbaker08 We are the same with vaccinations. No one is allowed in the house unless fully vaccinated, and honestly, right now with Delta, we only allow people who are fully vaccinated and who are basically isolating since DD1 and DD2 are still too young to be vaccinated.
We are lucky that our entire family and all of our friends are fully vaccinated and were pretty much first in line here to get it done, but since you can still contract COVID and pass it on, even being double vaccinated, we are keeping everyone away from the girls until they are able to be vaccinated. Luckily I do not have to work right now and DD1 is doing her school remotely and my parents are retired, so we are all able to stay away from other people for the most part, but family members and cousins are still working and attending school in person, so they are not allowed to visit. Even SO does not come over if he has recently been in contact with lots of people. Luckily he owns his own firm so he has mandated that all employees and clients be vaccinated if they are doing anything in person, but we know the risk is still there so we try to limit his visits to when he hasn't been in contact will too many people. The rates among children are going crazy here and with most of my family members being teachers and their kids in school we just don't feel comfortable taking that risk. Plus they are predicting the flu is going to be extra bad this year, so the flu shot is another one that we don't take chances with. No flu shot, no contact (but as the girls are not likely to be able to be vaccinated until after the flu season it is unlikely anyone will be coming over anyways).
@Panaceia have every finger crossed that DS will be able to be vaccinated before babe arrives. We are also back to being extremely careful. No public places. Only go into stores when necessary, no visitors etc. all in an attempt to protect DS.
As a nurse in the ICU I’m so incredibly proud of all of you for not only getting the initial vaccine, but the booster as well!!! I know it’s not an easy decision and being hesitant about it is completely normal. I just had a Covid+ ventilated patient who was pregnant (1 week ahead of me) lose the baby due to Covid, I cried for days. Every mother’s worst nightmare. For some reason the research shows that delta is hitting pregnant women pretty badly, so all the measures you’re taking with family and friends are necessary. Don’t let anyone make you feel bad or negative in any type of way ❤️❤️
And lo and behold I got a rash from my first shot.lol It’s localized and only a minor side effect based on what I can find, so definitely not telling my mom’s side of the family or they will freak out and be like: “See?! It’s evil!!!”
Honestly if that’s the only side effect I get from either shot I’ll be happy.
@faithmovesmountains i got a rash too after my second shot and some swollen lymph nodes in addition to the usual headache, chills, and body aches. I hope yours goes away quickly.
How’s everyone feeling now with Covid? I’m so nervous. My sister and her family are just getting over it, my nephew is stuck in England because he tested positive, my cousins and uncle have it. Thankfully those who are boosted have mild symptoms- my nephew doesn’t have any at all.
I got my booster today and got my 5 year old vaccinated today. I started wearing my N95s again. 🙏🏼
@MusicalFamily I'm getting nervous again. Cases here are big-time on the rise and the hospital I work at is a mess. We have a decent amount of COVID patients, but really worse is staff being out based on exposure and symptoms. There were over 500 hospital staff that failed their daily monitoring today. My OB did make me feel better this morning though. She said that studies are showing COVID antibodies in cord blood when the mother is vaccinated while pregnant. Gives me a little hope.
@MusicalFamily it’s nerve racking, especially the pressure the spike is putting on hospitals. I think the impact on health care staff is my biggest concern right now. I’m still worried about catching Covid but I’ve done everything I can as far as vaccination/booster and we wear KN95s everywhere. I’m concerned about my toddler starting daycare in a couple weeks but I also feel like it’s something he needs. Every decision just feels heavy. And the whole experience feels never ending.
Definitely feeling the stress. We are maxed out every single day. Very short staffed with so many staff out with covid. I honestly dread going into work. It’s just non-stop every shift. Was never worried about outcome if I got covid from work at the beginning of the pandemic, but feeling very stressed about getting it now. I know being vaxxed and boostered make the likelihood of having severe complications very unlikely, but I’m also 4 months post-booster at this point. Also, working in afield where you see lots of ‘worst-case-scenarios’ makes it much more real that despite the odds, sometimes bad things happen to unsuspecting people.
Choosing to channel my energy into every productive way I can control my level of exposure and trust that I am doing everything I can.
@night_nurse I find some days I’m consumed by the worst case scenario’s because that is all I have seen for the last 2 years. Even though I’m on leave I still remain fairly active with the staff and I’m the sounding board for many of them because I’m can’t let them carry this grief on their own. Same staffing issues, it’s starting to become criminal in my opinion. We are tripling our nurses in the ICU far often and I work at a very high acuity ICU. Makes me nervous about giving birth in a hospital, if I weren’t so high risk I’d be looking into home births 😬. It is mildly reassuring that vaccinated people seem to be doing well when infected (as well as you can when ill ) and recover at home. I think I’m more nervous for the issues after birth with covid and having a newborn (potentially a preemie). Take care of yourself !
@night_nurse Do they have plans to give healthcare workers a 2nd booster?
Cases here are going crazy and I'm so over people I know not being safe or taking the proper precautions. DD1 has been doing remote school for the past 2 years and we basically haven't gone anywhere since this all started. Hopefully DD2 can get her 2nd dose at the end of January with no issue since right now there is a huge shortage of vaccination appointments here. I'm hoping things start to settle down a bit by March since I'm not looking forward to being in the hospital for a few days if cases are still this high:/ I'm glad I am at least on mat leave until September 2023, but am fully prepared to take another year off after that if I'm still not comfortable sending the kids to school by that point.
@Nik102 I’m sure your coworkers really appreciate you keeping up with them. The staffing issues just compound the trauma and stress. The doors never close in the ER and lack of access to primary care just forces people to us for non-emergent reasons. Not to mention the moral issues of feeling negatively toward unvaccinated (by choice) patients becoming severely ill, needing aerosolizing procedures, and putting me and my baby at risk for showing up to do my job.
I have the exact same feelings re:hospital birth as well. There are such few doctors and nurses I would actually trust to take care of me in a serious situation. There are some doctors I dont even trust to care for my patients. Just grateful my husband (critical care medic) and I have enough medical knowledge to recognize what is a concerning event and what isnt and when we would need to advocate and push for treatment.
My preterm labor stint just solidified those beliefs. I had to push so hard for them to help because “I wasnt acting like it was that painful” (thank you mindfulness and meditation practice) the whole time I’m saying “i dont want pain meds, I want to not deliver my baby at 27 weeks!” with 60 second contractions every 90 seconds. My nurse just kept saying she had multiple laboring patients and no help. Not blaming her- blaming the systems that put us both in that situation.
I know the unit was completely full. Triage nurses with multiple laboring patients in triage rooms, all delivery rooms full, heard multiple times someone call overhead for any available midwife to an imminent delivery. I really am not trying to scare anyone. TL;DRJust please please educate yourself on birth, the birth process, evidence-based interventions, and above all- trust your intuition. If you feel something is wrong, don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise.
@Panaceia im sure it’ll happen eventually, just a lot of political and legalistic, FDA and CDC bs to wade through first. I believe Israel is already offering 4th shots to elderly and immunocompromised people.
I think I am a minority. While of course I don’t want to get Covid, or my family to, I’m really only worried about getting it while pregnant with the findings that there have been higher rates of stillbirth in first and second trimesters. But also am worried for DS who can’t be vaccinated yet.
Otherwise, I’m generally putting my trust in the vaccines/boosters etc. in the fact that both DH and i would most likely have mild cases. (Knock on wood)
This being said we both still mask when out in public, and wipe down carts, use hand sanitizer, and be conscientious of touching our faces, DS. Etc. We (probably me more than H) also won’t do big gatherings indoors unless is a vaccine/mask required event.
Most of our exposures have been at work, or by someone who’s vaccinated as well. I also think that we’re all going to get it at some point. Just hoping for later down the line when it’s not as big of a deal and really is more like a flu virus. But still counting down and impatiently waiting until DS can be vaccinated. Then I think I’ll feel more calm as well.
I AM nervous for our already strained health care system though through this next wave, which is why I’m still mainly pushing for people just to be particular about how they spend their time(but not to the same extent as this time last year..)we’ve been struggling with lack of staff for awhile now(on top of remaining staff being beyond burned out) so it’s gonna be interesting 😅
We don't go anywhere or do anything. So we keep our risk low. We have not had any friends or family members test +. (Though I just found out one of DHs antivax cousins is + right now. But We don't associate with them, since DS was born.)
Our only real risks are DH working, and Nanny's part time job. And grocery shopping. And then my medical appointments. (We see DSs grandparents, but both sets are essentially locked down except for seeing us, and buying groceries).
However, We are almost at 1000 cases per day now. So that's nerve-wracking. And I am NOT keen that DH had to return to work today. (He was on vacation as cases started rising).
They are talking about requiring + asymptomatic HCW to continue reporting to work. And THAT scares me. DH being trapped in a small metal box with a + person for 12+ hours at a time, is super high risk.
DH has had his booster, Nanny/sister has hers booked, and I'm taking some time off work this afternoon to try to hunt down a walk in. (I have an appointment booked for Jan 18 or something, but I want it now).
@goldfishcraker I am right there with you. Ontario has over 10,000 new cases per day now. My city alone (which is not very large) has around 500 a day and is rising daily. SO doesn't live with us and only visits after he has had 2 negative rapid tests over a series of days. We are all double vaccinated and SO gets his booster Sunday, but DD1 only has her first shot and DD2 has nothing. I have no issue staying essentially isolated as long as needed!
Yes the amount of cases are freaking me out. Our state had 60K new cases yesterday. I also work in NYC where the cases are extremely high. There was over 32K yesterday. I’m on vacation this week and go back on Monday. I typically take the train for my commute but I may drive for this month instead. I am a teacher and classes are packed. I’m also worried about my students. I wish they’d have a better system. Maybe go remote and have every student test before school starts on Monday. Idk.
My 2 year old cannot be vaccinated yet but I was breastfeeding him when I received the first 2 shots. I hope he has some antibodies from that. I pray this is all better by March when we all give birth.
I might really be an outlier here, but I’m really not stressed about it. We still take precautions. Myself and DH both got Covid in November 2020. Our symptoms were incredibly mild and we have since been vaccinated. The new variants have been much milder symptom wise. Given those factors, what we got appears to be a ‘worst case’ for us. I’ve also read so much data on how well children/babies manage when exposed.
I do worry about stress on hospitals from lack of staffing. I think staffing has become a huge issue these days that needs to be better addressed.
@night_nurse I’m so glad you advocated for yourself! I wouldn’t have made this far in my pregnancy if I wasn’t persistent with what was needed and to be taken seriously. I often think about the women out there who maybe don’t know or have the courage to do the same. I hope the rest of your pregnancy is uneventful and that work isn’t a nightmare every single day.
@Sarah0335 I can understand not being fearful of getting it but I would be very afraid about the situation at the hospitals. It’s not just staffing, it’s all of the covid positive patients overwhelming the healthcare system (often for weeks at a time) depleting resources and stretching what little staff is left to their limit. I’m genuinely concerned about giving birth or having anything medical related done under the current situation. Here’s to hoping we all have happy healthy March babies without any major issues ❤️
I got my booster yesterday after struggling to find an appointment. They’re hard to find around here right now. And once I did find an appointment, I showed up only to learn the pharmacy was closed because they were too short staffed to stay open. But anyway after a lot of time on hold with Walgreens I was able to get in yesterday and I got my shot. So far no fever, just some tiredness and achiness.
I’ve started considering a home birth. My midwife is licensed for both home and hospital, so since she’s my provider anyway I have the luxury of waiting to decide only a few weeks before birth. I’m considered low-risk, and I want an unmedicated birth anyway, so that part isn’t a concern for me. But I do worry about not having pediatric staff at the birth. It’s so hard to gauge which risks are the biggest risks 😞
I appreciate those who have shared there concerns - I was starting to wonder if I was alone in the heightened Covid anxiety right now.
I am having a hard time wrapping my mind around what would happen if I were positive when giving birth in terms of support for me. I did not have a smooth recovery and the idea of not being allowed to have a support person present with me after giving birth is very, very concerning.
Re: Covid Thread
It was a big decision for me, because even though I know it’s safe I just get super nervous. Not explicitly because of the vaccine, but because of what happened in my first pregnancy(won’t say in this topic) I literally am almost scared to breathe some days. Haha.
Anyway, I only told my mom and MIL outside of DH, because I know most of my mom’s side of the family is very antivax.
Low and behold, my mom told her mother, who told my aunt.
This aunt saw fit to harass me today telling me I’m wrecking my immune system and poisoning myself and the baby and not to get the second shot if I care about my child.
I tried to play it off cool and tell her I respectfully disagree, but I’m so flustered I want to cry.
Second tri is already the time I feel most anxious and I don’t want to deal with this while trying to the best for me and my baby.
Edit: I edited out some of my comment because I got a wave of anxiety that someone I know will read this and it will cause issues.
Thanks and I’m sorry your mother was like that and don’t blame you for not telling her about the booster.
@rachelredhead
Thank you, it’s nice to get reassurance.
I’m trying my best.
ETA That was my personal experience, I've spoken with my women who didn't have that side effect!
I also had my antibody level tested before the booster and 3 weeks after. I went from 998 to 17,435. Definitely effective!
I’m among Covid+ patients every day I work and have seen some significantly ill pregnant moms who were otherwise young and healthy. For me, it was not even a consideration to not get it. I understand everyone has their own feelings on the matter though.
Just this week we had to have a few conversations with immediate family members outlining our expectations for when baby is born. Covid, flu, and recent TDaP vaccine required to visit until babe is old enough to be vaccinated. My sisters specifically are the ones still unvaccinated. It sucked. They still haven’t responded. We’ll see what happens.
@night_nurse my family knows the drill about vaccinations being up to date before visiting with the baby because of my first 2, MH family is new to this with me and we're going to have those conversations as well. BIL and SIL have opted not to have their 4 children vaccinated and I've already prepped MH for the difficult conversation he's going to need to have with his mother about "picking" which family can visit for holidays. Fortunately, my other SIL plans to follow routine vaccine schedules and ultimately when they have a baby it'll be 2 of the brothers against 1. It sucks that it has to be that way, but I will protect myself and my babies at all costs, even from family.
We are lucky that our entire family and all of our friends are fully vaccinated and were pretty much first in line here to get it done, but since you can still contract COVID and pass it on, even being double vaccinated, we are keeping everyone away from the girls until they are able to be vaccinated. Luckily I do not have to work right now and DD1 is doing her school remotely and my parents are retired, so we are all able to stay away from other people for the most part, but family members and cousins are still working and attending school in person, so they are not allowed to visit. Even SO does not come over if he has recently been in contact with lots of people. Luckily he owns his own firm so he has mandated that all employees and clients be vaccinated if they are doing anything in person, but we know the risk is still there so we try to limit his visits to when he hasn't been in contact will too many people. The rates among children are going crazy here and with most of my family members being teachers and their kids in school we just don't feel comfortable taking that risk. Plus they are predicting the flu is going to be extra bad this year, so the flu shot is another one that we don't take chances with. No flu shot, no contact (but as the girls are not likely to be able to be vaccinated until after the flu season it is unlikely anyone will be coming over anyways).
It’s localized and only a minor side effect based on what I can find, so definitely not telling my mom’s side of the family or they will freak out and be like:
“See?! It’s evil!!!”
Honestly if that’s the only side effect I get from either shot I’ll be happy.
My OB did make me feel better this morning though. She said that studies are showing COVID antibodies in cord blood when the mother is vaccinated while pregnant. Gives me a little hope.
Choosing to channel my energy into every productive way I can control my level of exposure and trust that I am doing everything I can.
Cases here are going crazy and I'm so over people I know not being safe or taking the proper precautions. DD1 has been doing remote school for the past 2 years and we basically haven't gone anywhere since this all started. Hopefully DD2 can get her 2nd dose at the end of January with no issue since right now there is a huge shortage of vaccination appointments here. I'm hoping things start to settle down a bit by March since I'm not looking forward to being in the hospital for a few days if cases are still this high:/ I'm glad I am at least on mat leave until September 2023, but am fully prepared to take another year off after that if I'm still not comfortable sending the kids to school by that point.
I also think that we’re all going to get it at some point. Just hoping for later down the line when it’s not as big of a deal and really is more like a flu virus. But still counting down and impatiently waiting until DS can be vaccinated. Then I think I’ll feel more calm as well.
Our only real risks are DH working, and Nanny's part time job. And grocery shopping. And then my medical appointments. (We see DSs grandparents, but both sets are essentially locked down except for seeing us, and buying groceries).
However, We are almost at 1000 cases per day now. So that's nerve-wracking. And I am NOT keen that DH had to return to work today. (He was on vacation as cases started rising).
They are talking about requiring + asymptomatic HCW to continue reporting to work. And THAT scares me. DH being trapped in a small metal box with a + person for 12+ hours at a time, is super high risk.
DH has had his booster, Nanny/sister has hers booked, and I'm taking some time off work this afternoon to try to hunt down a walk in. (I have an appointment booked for Jan 18 or something, but I want it now).
@Sarah0335 I can understand not being fearful of getting it but I would be very afraid about the situation at the hospitals. It’s not just staffing, it’s all of the covid positive patients overwhelming the healthcare system (often for weeks at a time) depleting resources and stretching what little staff is left to their limit. I’m genuinely concerned about giving birth or having anything medical related done under the current situation. Here’s to hoping we all have happy healthy March babies without any major issues ❤️