WTO Thursday 5/6

b_1029 · May 2021

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b_1029 · May 2021

I feel so early today for once!
Month/Cycle: 2

CD: 14

WAYDTGKU: OPKs, CM, PNV

R/R: i don’t know if I o’d or not. Haven’t been doing a super great job monitoring CM, which would’ve been helpful! I’m debating temping next month just to see if I’m truly ovulating. I’m slightly crampy but it’s nothing like the O pain I used to get. I also went to the gym for the first time in a while so cramps could be from that 🤷🏼‍♀️ Otherwise, I’m just so happy it’s Thursday and the week is almost over. We are driving home to see my parents again as well as a little family get together Saturday morning. I can’t wait to see my cousins who I haven’t seen in 10 or so months.

CS/Q: nope

gingermama29 · May 2021

@b_1029 sounds like it’ll be a great weekend! Is it a far drive for you?

Month/Cycle: 23/2 AL

CD: 63

WAYDTGKU: NTNP, temping

R/R: the heating/ac guys didn’t end up coming out yesterday so I’m hopeful to see them today. Also I totally ended up buying one of the AG dolls yesterday 😂🤷‍♀️. No regrets.

CS/Q:

anniemarie887 · May 2021

Month/Cycle: 6/6

CD: 17

WAYDTGKU: i remembered my vitamins yesterday! woo

R/R: i. am. so. tired. i have managed to get 8 hrs of sleep the last 4 nights, i should be like bouncing off the walls... the sun is shining... what gives? treated myself to another venti coffee.

CS/Q: nada

inthewoods23 · May 2021

@b_1029 good morning!! It would be even better if it was Friday, but I'll take a Thursday haha. Enjoy your family time this weekend!

@gingermama29 which doll did you buy?

Month/Cycle: 6 AL

CD: 11

WAYDTGKU: temping, opks, CM, GF/DF diet, PNV, DHA, CoQ10, maybe adding in a probiotic

R/R: I'm so damn proud of my cat being swoon over at the vet. But they do that with all animals don't they? More birthday dinner drama is popping up. I asked my family about mothers day plans. Didn't know if we'd be doing anything since they're busy trying to find a house. They'll be in our area Saturday so I asked DH's family about moving the dinner to Sunday but SIL and her fiance are at his parent's for dinner. I asked about Friday and MIL is like "ummm I might not be able to have the cake ready in time but I'll try". I'm tempted to just tell her to take the box of cake mix I have and use that. I really don't f*cking care at this point. But you know what, this would have never been a problem had they just agreed to Bonefish! 🤷‍♀️ Just sayin'.... lol

CS/Q: Unexpectedly had some EWCM when I wiped this morning. My cycles like to yo-yo haha. Last cycle was 34 days so I wouldn't be surprised if this one ends up being 30 days or less. Temp bump today is likely because I flipped my blankets so the warmer one was closest to me instead of on top. Could have also been the cat on my legs

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anniemarie887 · May 2021

@b_1029 awww yay! love that you get to see family!
@gingermama29 fx for hvac people! also debated buying a doll... but didn't. i need to ask my mom what the going rate was back in the early 90s... and maybe locate the 2 i think i have in closet at their house?!

b_1029 · May 2021

@gingermama29 I loved my AG dolls as a kid. After seeing your post yesterday I looked around the website and they’re just so cute! But damn, now that i understand what money is...they’re expensive! But they last forever, especially with the doll “hospital”. And no, it’s about a 5 hour drive from us! Not too bad.

@anniemarie887 when in doubt, blame the hormones. Maybe your body is just tired gearing up for o 🤣

@inthewoods23 im sorry for the continued birthday dinner drama. I hope you end up having fun! (And having cake)

gingermama29 · May 2021

@anniemarie887 I’m jealous of all that sleep! I do still have ones of the dolls (Samantha) from when I was a kid (if I recall correctly, I had to save my own money to get one). My plan is to pass it on to my kid(s) someday.

@inthewoods23 Felicity! I’ve wanted her for years and always wished I’d had her a a kid. Ugh that birthday drama sounds so frustrating. So annoying how your day is turning into everyone else’s.

@b_1029 honestly I was shocked that they weren’t charging more! It’s pretty on par to what they were charging in the 90s. I figured with an anniversary vintage release, it would be at least twice the price.

knottie7bc8467b6ac68efe · May 2021

Really early birds all week here! I'll come back and comment later, I hope, if work gives me time! But I have read all the posts & happy Thursday to y'all.

Month/Cycle: 2

CD: 6

WAYDTGKU: PNVs, OPKs

R/R: Rant: can my period stop please? It's not even that long, but it's longer than it is when I'm on birth control, and that's annoying. Let's move along, cycle. I'm over this part. Rave: I am so much more productive on this half of my cycle, so yay, I've gotten so much work done & a fair number of house chores done in between work tasks as little mental breaks. I'm sorting through all of our closets where we shove shit for out-of-sight-out-of-mind for things to be donated; that's been nice.

CS/Q: No.

abjm0325 · May 2021

Month/Cycle: 2/2

CD: 9

WAYDTGKU: OPKs, vitamins

R/R: My in-law family cannot get their act together when it comes to plans. We’re trying to find a time to gather for mother’s day, and it is 10x more complicated than it needs to be. Case in point, my MIL sent a group text and left off half her family.

CS/Q: I’m trying out the Premom app for my OPKs, but I’m not sure I’m doing it right. Both days when I’ve taken a picture of my OPK it reads it as 0 (when there is clearly a faint line), but when I re-do it a number pops up. So not sure if I actually have a question or if I’m just questioning my competence, haha.

@b_1029 Have a great time with your family! I’m traveling next weekend to visit grandparents I haven’t seen in 14 months and it is so exciting.

@gingermama29 Haha! Which doll did you buy?!

@anniemarie887 Sometimes I feel more tired when I get “extra” sleep. Bodies are so weird.

@inthewoods23 Ugh, that is so frustrating about your MIL. I say you buy your own cake at this point and don’t invite them to share it!

inthewoods23 · May 2021

@anniemarie887 bodies are so weird. I've had that too where I know I'm getting adequate hours of sleep but still feel like garbage during the day. Hope that coffee perks things up! And now I have a taste for coffee. To the kitchen I go!

@b_1029 I've got that box of cake... if it never happens I'll just make it myself lol

@gingermama29 cute! Yeah this birthday thing is getting ridiculous. I mentioned that I would check with my family when they'd be in town as maybe we could hang with my family for a few hours, then come over for my dinner and my MIL's response is that she's just giving me shit?? Ok can we not??? I am just so done with people

b_1029 · May 2021

@abjm0325 how are you doing the camera (automatic vs uploading)? Maybe a dumb Q but is it on the right brand of OPK at the top of the screen you upload the tests into? I’m zero expert since this is the first time I’ve used the app, but have had success just having it take a pic automatically when it’s in the frame

anniemarie887 · May 2021

@inthewoods23 ah i missed you, i vote you just go to bonefish and say eff it. it is your birthday.
@beakay8 you know i've never thought about productivity and cycle timing (or energy levels @b_1029)
@abjm0325 are they just planning now? that would drive me bonkers

knottie7bc8467b6ac68efe · May 2021

@anniemarie887 Yeah, I definitely feel that progesterone caused fatigue in the second half of my cycle, and it makes me so distracted or slow at things.

fantasyflyte · May 2021

@b_1029 I feel you on uncertain O. Enjoy seeing your family!

@gingermama29 I hope they actually come today

@anniemarie887 sorry you're still tired, maybe you're fighting off a mild bug?

@inthewoods23 ugh, sorry there's still drama, it's surprisingly tough to get everyone's schedules to line up sometimes. They can't complain though given they're the ones who made it get pushed anyway for saying no to the restaurant!

@beakay8 I hope your period ends soon for you

@abjm0325 I do the same thing with PreMom, I just cycle through the auto and manual options with and without flash until it actually gives a reasonable reading. I've had test lines half as dark as the control, so not positive but obviously not negative, that'll give me a 0 at first and then suddenly it's like a 0.27 after another try or two.

Month/Cycle: 6/6

CD: 22

WAYDTGKU: opks, cm, bbt, cinnamon supplements

R/R: today's the last day of classes, woo! Also means homework all day, boo! But at least it's nice outside today.

CS/Q: FF gave me dotted crosshairs, but I'm not buying it yet because it's like a week earlier than I typically ovulate, and I didn't have any mittelschmertz, which I've had for literally every other cycle I've been tracking symptoms for, plus no dark OPKs and patchy on and off cm. Gonna keep an eye on temps the next few days and see. I hope I didn't O yet because we haven't gotten in any sex yet with both of us having busy schedules and me figuring on this being the start of my FW. If I did indeed O, then that's super frustrating because I only ever seem to O early in months when we don't get any sex in then and it's annoying.

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kgg2241 · May 2021

I'll be back for tags!

Month/Cycle: 3/3

CD: 12

WAYDTGKU: Letrozole/Mira

R/R: Work is kind of a mess right now. Lots of internal drama. I'm not involved in it, but it makes me question if I want to stay here. Rave-- We went to visit our friend's new restaurant last night and it was so fun. Our good friend is Pakistani and married a guy from there. He moved here four years ago after they married. His dream has been to open a restaurant and he finally did it! Well, he opened a restaurant at the mall food court. I am so proud of him though. He is such a hard worker and it just feels so awesome to see him going after his dream.

CS/Q: Nope. Just patiently waiting. My estrogen level looks like it is rising on the Mira monitor, so that makes me hopeful!

abjm0325 · May 2021

@b_1029 I’m using correct strip option (pretty sure anyway) and doing the automatic. Maybe I need to try a different room to get better lighting?

@anniemarie887 Yes! I am a planner so I would have planned this weeks ago if it was up to me. My MIL wants to be all “go with the flow” but really it just makes everyone stressed out.

@fantasyflyte Glad it’s not just me! I’m sorry your chart is being annoying and hope you get clarity soon.

@kgg2241 Work drama is the worst. That’s awesome about your friend’s restaurant though!

kgg2241 · May 2021

@b_1029 Have a fun weekend with your family!

@gingermama29 I fully support your AG decision!

@anniemarie887 Okay for real, what does it take to actually feel well rested?? I am the same right now. I sleep 8 hours and still feel exhausted.

@inthewoods23 Awe, good kitty. I can tell you for sure that they don't say all animals are cute. No one, including the vet, never tell me my dog is cute and it makes me sad. My cat gets all the love though.

@beakay8 I hope your period stops soon. It is so annoying when they drag out. And good job organizing your closet. I love doing that stuff. It always feels good.

@abjm0325 I have a hard time with Premom too. It always gives me super low readings when it looks darker to me in real life. I can't get it right.

@fantasyflyte YAY! Last day of classes. That's awesome. Fx you didn't O yet and the timing works out.

Speaking of OPKs... are Wondfos still a thing? They used to be really popular and seemed like what most people used. I have been using them and I am starting to wonder if they aren't as good anymore. What brand is everyone using now?

knottie7bc8467b6ac68efe · May 2021

@kgg2241 I just ordered Easy@Homes to use with the PreMom app because why not, it seems like one of the main ones I see other people using, and so far, I'm very obsessed with taking the pictures of them for upload. I see a lot of people also using Pregmates now. I sometimes hear people still using Wondfos, but definitely agree that brand seems to have lost some popularity and I'm not sure if there was a reason or there are now more cheap options? Interesting question.

b_1029 · May 2021

@kgg2241 I use the easy@ home. I kind of hate them just because I’m bad at line reading and previously used the clearblue advanced digital ones and LOVED them... but they’re pricey, and the Premom app tells me if the OPK is + or not!

anniemarie887 · May 2021

@kgg2241 i don't know... i don't want this to seem callous, but my husband jokes i need a medically induced coma for a weekend.

kgg2241 · May 2021

@beakay8 @b_1029 good to know. I'll try the Easy@Homes next cycle. That might help with why the Premom app doesn't really make sense to me.

@anniemarie887 LOL I feel that.

inthewoods23 · May 2021

@beakay8 it always bums me out when AF lingers. In my HS days I think my periods were typically 6-7 days. On BC obviously more like 3, and now TTC we're somewhere around 4 or 5 days. This cycle I still had spotting into day 6 and I'm just so done at that point with bleeding. Hope she's on her way out soon!

@abjm0325 I've always used the Premom app to manual take photos. I've had near positives give a 0 reading

trying again it's fine. Must be something with the lighting. Definitely make sure you're positioning it the same. I try to do the same corner of my bathroom counter at an angle to keep any glare away.

@anniemarie887 haha we did take out Bonefish last weekend so I'm good. NGL though I'm so salty and annoyed these days I'm basically going to want to have dinner, open the few gifts I'll have and go home.

@fantasyflyte I bet FF will drop the CH if your temp drops down again. I mean it isn't wrong that you've had 3 "elevated" temps lol. I'm guessing none of your OPKs have been close to positive either? Hurray for the last day of classes!

@kgg2241 I'm feeling the same about work right now too. I like what I do... but some of the people I work with and just our overall culture makes me sad. Sigh. Nothing wrong with opening a restaurant at the food court! There's a venezuelan restaurant at our food court and their empanadas are AMAZING. Food is food!

What breed of dog do you have? And for your OPK question, I did the CBADs for a few months way back when, then moved to the Wondfo cheapies. I changed to the Pregmate brand for reasons I don't remember. Either someone else's recommendation or because they are cheaper on Amazon. I like the Pregmate ones a lot more because the stick is a lot wider so you're not looking at miniscule lines.

knottie7bc8467b6ac68efe · May 2021

@inthewoods23 She is definitely lighter today, and lighter yesterday and Monday from the weekend heavy flow of days 1 and 2, so I think she'll end up being 6 days total... but yeah, when I'm on BC, she is 3 days and very light, and I like her like that, even though she's actually totally fine as she is right now, too. It takes me a few cycles to adjust my mental expectations for AF, basically. I've had to go off BC a few times in my adult life for various health reasons, and I know AF takes a few cycles to get regular for me, but I'm so impatient, especially right now with TTC.

chgilmore · May 2021

Hello busy bees

Month/Cycle: 4/4

CD: 12

WAYDTGKU: pnv, cm/cp, bbt, cbad/opk

R/R: my thesis finally published so graduation feels very very real. I am coasting on fumes but my mood is elevated and that's nice. I found out my therapist is testing for his full license around the same time I graduate so I'm hoping we get to celebrate in a session somehow. Feeling pretty good overall!

CS/Q: thanks again everyone for the support yesterday. CBAD finally showed a High today and MH wants to try a "new method" for HIO so we'll see how that goes.

@b_1029 the body can be weird! I feel like a scientist or something every time I do cm/cp. cheers to the weekend!

@gingermama29 sorry about the AC! I loved Felicity's story - highly recommend her movie with very young Shailene Woodley

@anniemarie887 coffee makes the world go round imo. stress can affect energy too; feeling particularly stressed or anxious about anything??

@inthewoods23 agreed, you should do what you want! it's your day! "be the change you want to see in the world" and all that motivational schtuff. fx for O soon?!

@beakay8 I hear you on wanting AF not to overstay her welcome. productive energy sounds nice though!

@abjm0325 the automatic photo function is my go to on that app. I try to be consistent with a very plain, flat background if that helps at all? sometimes it's a little buggy too. I also use the actual premom strips so maybe that helps??

@fantasyflyte definitely hope you get clarity soon. I'd be surprised if O happened since opks were negative, it looks like.

@kgg2241 sorry work is a mess, I hope it resolves soon, and congrats to your friend! fx for O soon

abjm0325 · May 2021

@chgilmore Congrats on your thesis being published!

inthewoods23 · May 2021

@beakay8 yeah my flow is similar. Days 1 and 2 are heaviest, then day 3 is medium-ish flow. After that it's so light it's not worth wearing my cup. This last cycle I got annoyed having pantiliners for 3 days haha

@chgilmore oh my, what's this "new method"?

I would certainly love an earlier O compared to CD21 last month! Btw, DH was talking with me yesterday and he actually he thinks the fern from my photo in our backyard was one he actually planted maybe 2 years ago when we had them propagating in our front gardens. If he's correct, it's an ostrich fern. They get to be 3ft tall!

[Deleted User] · May 2021

Congratulations!!! @chgilmore

knottie7bc8467b6ac68efe · May 2021

@chgilmore Congrats on your thesis!!

rachelredhead · May 2021

Happy Thursday, everyone!

@fantasyflyte what kind of cinnamon supplements? I’m interested in herbal fertility supports and cinnamon tea would be a nice addition.

@kgg2241 how does Pakistani food differ from Indian? I’ve had Afghani food (delicious) and Indian but I feel ignorant about Pakistani food. I bet it’s delicious, just thinking about that region. So many great spices! That’s so fabulous about opening a restaurant! My husband’s a chef and he always talks about wanting a tiny restaurant, even a kiosk like at a food court or food truck, somewhere small and manageable with a limited menu he could make delicious. Food business is not for the weak so big high five to your friend!

Month/Cycle: 2/2

CD: 10

WAYDTGKU: PNV, Mira, half-heartedly tracking CM

R/R: I’m trying to do a fashion challenge on Instagram to help me clean out my closet. It’s a different color combo every day. Today’s the first day I’ve done it but digging around in my closet already inspired me to get rid of a few things. So that’s a rant on having too much crap and a rave for just doing something silly on Instagram.

CS/Q: nope, just twiddling my thumbs at this point. I don’t tend to O until at least day 17/18 at the earliest so just biding my time, I guess.

chgilmore · May 2021

@abjm0325 @BusinessWife thank you! ETA @beakay8 thank you too! I was writing this when you posted lol
@inthewoods23 I'll put in spoiler because it's long but also likely TMI lol

MH has two main issues, one is a circumcision/hypospadias repair issue from when he was an infant that was basically botched so he has reduced sensation and has difficulties getting off from intercourse; it's a lot of handjobs. the second one is that his ADHD makes it hard for him to sleep and so he masturbates every night. what we were doing was like a reverse pull out with a hand job but trying to do it every two-three nights as his stamina built up for it, but 1) this would take a long time (often 30min-1hr) and 2) we couldn't do the recommended every day/every other day during FW.

sometime last month we had a sit down crash course of what a FW is and how we know it's happening (this was his first time seeing bbt charts, opks, the CBAD, hearing about different cm/cp, all that; before we sat down, he seriously believed a person with ovaries/uterus/etc could get pregnant any day during a cycle). then he suggested this new method: once I get a High CBAD reading, he'll hold off masturbating until I get CBAD Peak and/or high/peak OPK readings (I surge quickly), and then we HIO.

I am not optimistic about this plan, but I guess it's basically like a restricted timed at-home insemination? my midwife team is aware of the physical stuff with him so it's worth trying before doing more assisted methods or adapting the one he came up with. he also scheduled his SA for when AF is due at the end of my current cycle, just in case.

kgg2241 · May 2021

@chgilmore congratulations on your thesis! And I hope this new method works out!

@rachelredhead I'm actually not really sure. It does seem very similar, but it is quite a bit spicier to me than indian food. I can barely eat when I go to their house because it is so much spicier than I'm used to. Funny though, he decided to open a Greek restaurant. I'm not sure why.

inthewoods23 · May 2021

@rachelredhead I've always wanted to do the method of rotating the hangers to tell you that you've worn a particular shirt and at the end of the season if you haven't turned the hanger than you get rid of it. Such a simple idea but I have a hard time pulling the trigger on trying it!

@chgilmore sounds like a very interesting plan and worth a try. We all do weird things to see if it works. I mean, I wondered 2 cycles ago if AM sex was the answer lol.

Also, I typed this up like 20 minutes ago but got interrupted by DH because he spotted a fern frond!

fantasyflyte · May 2021

@inthewoods23 yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'll make sure to sleep without the blanket tonight. Playing with preemptively adding temps for the next few days doesn't drop the CH, but a positive OPK would, so I dunno. I'll just keep on and keep my fingers crossed. Looking back, the only time I didn't mark ovulation pain was the last time I had a short-for-me 30-day cycle, so at least if that's the case again, I wouldn't have to wait QUITE as long for the next attempt. Bodies are dumb.

@rachelredhead I just take the Sundown brand cinnamon supplements. My doctor wanted me to just steep cinnamon and ginger together as a tea, but I couldn't stomach it, nor any of the like 5 cinnamon teas I tried lol, and I figured adding a pill to my repertoire was easier than my original thought of adding cinnamon to EVERYTHING I ate practically.

bows22 · May 2021

@kgg2241 🙋‍♀️ I still use wondfos! As part of my IF testing 1.5 years ago they “tested my OPKs” (did bloodwork 24 hours after a positive) and said they were reading my body perfectly so now I feel like I can’t ever switch haha.

kgg2241 · May 2021

@bows22 oh good to know! I might just be that crazy person and do both Wondfos and Easy@Home for a little to see what happens 😂.

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